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Raid	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:01:00 - [181] Edited by: Raid on 31/01/2006 16:04:37 Originally by: zanxu Unrealistic terms are not ment to be accepted...Even if accepted your terms would have only bred ill feelings in your defeated foes. The best way of defeating an enemy is by making them your friend. By making someone who didn't really like you into someone who hates you doesn't end wars. It starts them. That only works if you have a common enemy. Although BOB would like that common enemy to be Northern Corps thats simply not realistic. edit: by unrealistic terms I mean terms that the agressor has no intention of fulfilling. IMO SA would not mine/npc in querious... life in Q is not likely to change if the terms were accepted. Humble pie i guess would be all they would be forced to eat.
Man Upright	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:05:00 - [182] February is going to be the best month in the history of Eve. I'm going to devote much time to drinking blood. gg SA. But large balls and small brain aren't always the best combination.
thebold	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:06:00 - [183] Originally by: Deathwing I think all the SA chaps need to stop talking like their the bell of the ball around here. The more ** you keep talking the harder it is going to be for your leaders to clean up after. All this talk about how great SA is, is nothing more then a bunch of fresh meat who joined eve and heard stories about SA way back in the day when eve itself was still young, and trying to posture themselves into something they know nothing about. Since then, the Alliances of eve are alot different and SA isnt the mucho power house it "used" to be. Just take a word of advice Sit down and wait for Molle to tell you how this is going to happen follows Originally by:** DB Preacher Dianabolic spoke out of place and has been reprimanded for it. The only things you should take as gospel from BoB in this thread are from Molle, Galavet or Blacklight. BoB does allow for all members to discuss anything on the boards but I would hope that they would consider their words very carefully and allow our CEO's to make the decisions. dbp Meh, Yo EVE Forums!! Following what I have just heard on MSN it seem's as though SA is upto something... The old SA which you speak of was built on a core group of leaders Mainly a core group of CEO's and FC's, Only a fraction of those leaders are left today playing the game as real life and the desire to play have dwindled there is still some old SA left from the corps and the few old core fighters that used to fly together through thick and thin. The enthusiasm for EVE was one of the primary reasons IE-EX won Executership as I have found when you don't play EVE and get word of situations like this you care but not in a personal sense.... I am aware that BOB has again told us what we should and should not do, We were on the way to victory before even with FIX's old core PVP Corps, and today as you BOB say the 'younger' less expirenced ones are left waging a war with FIX and have done well and learnt allot but truthfully you can not learn much from a.. Not very good enemy. When G invaded the south we had no man power nor the willingness to fight to deffend regions.... One of the reasons we gave it up as we learnt during the CA war when C4 invaded Eso you can't kill SA because it is dug in so deep to its npc stations and CA the same, Holdon Msn 2006.01.31 16:01 Stain- Alliance has declared war on Band of Brothers. Well thats that... Ill shutup now or ill just get flamed by bob forum warriors Respect to bob, Awaiting the war deck ASCN Paragon Soul and hell even you Chowlove :) Maybe this is what we need to quit eve with a BANG! Or to use the situation to our every PVP advantage:) All I know is when Trig logs on it will be to late and he will not be happy. I still wonder who clicked the war button and who authroized the move when it never came from Trig.. This is why EVE is such a good game, PVPers in BOB and SA are all buzzing, All alliances around EVE are going wow whats going on thriving for the next big event. And now the other alliances are already rallying to there freinds to analyz who what and where they will go. Goodluck to all I doubt ill be playing eve much again. ==============================================
Xantina	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:14:00 - [184] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Elendar Originally by: Hans Roaming However it appears that after the fact further terms were asked of FIX in that the allies have rights to fly, NPC mine in Querilous and also that hey were not to use freighters to move their assets (including multiple POS) from FAT. Those are the terms that FIX did not understandably want to comply with. While limiting fix to querious sounds reasonable terms of surrender, these terms just seem petty and designed to contiune the war, no wonder sa have been trying not to let the details of the terms they gave out, they're not reasonable in any way whatsoever. seems they want war not peace If you cant wipe out someone you are fighting against then the next best thing is to make sure remember they lost a war. Best way to do that is to make them agree to unrealistic terms of surrender. SA isnt actually going to follow through on those terms, its mearly to illustrate clearly who won the war. Life will go on in querious as it always has (as sad as that sounds) if they publicly admit that they lost the war. So I take it your view on Pearl Harbour 1941 would be that America should have best surrendered then and there ?
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:30:00 - [185] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: Rod Blaine -- snip -- Rod, in one word. Shut up. I think that's two words. >_< King Liu is RIGHT!!
rig0r	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:33:00 - [186] Originally by: thebold 2006.01.31 16:01 Stain- Alliance has declared war on Band of Brothers. Lol, double-u-tee-eff ?
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:48:00 - [187] The Huzzah Federation as outlined above does not agree with the second set of terms imposed upon FIX. It especially does not support this unilateral decision to attack BoB, especially as the decision does not seem to be made by Trigger. At this time Huzzah forces are to be in Catch and Providence in a self defence stance only until further notice. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Avon	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:51:00 - [188] Again Hans demonstrates his wisdom and maturity. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Happysin	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:04:00 - [189] Wow. Just wow. At least the 2D sovereignty map will be interesting to look at over the coming month. ArsC Director of Logistics and Industry "Building our way to a better Tomorrow"
Cuebick	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:05:00 - [190] It's clear that this war has started, mentally and later on physicly (you know what I mean). But do you know what really grinds my gears is that people are getting too hostile and disrespecting each other like a bunch of kids. The forums **** me off too but sure let me try and not reply to useless comments again Respect to Galavet, DB Preacher, Molle, Dianabolic and all of you. May we have good fights and keep the good humor close to us ____________________________________

SLIM	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:05:00 - [191] Originally by: Avon Again Hans demonstrates his wisdom and maturity. It would be difficult to justify another position. His alliance doesn't have the luxury of NPC stations in their territory.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:17:00 - [192] Originally by: Cuebick Respect to Galavet, DB Preacher, Molle, Dianabolic and all of you. May we have good fights and keep the good humor close to us You're primary, we'll have no respect here :D Should be fun mr cue. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Happysin	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:20:00 - [193] Originally by: SLIM Originally by: Avon Again Hans demonstrates his wisdom and maturity. It would be difficult to justify another position. His alliance doesn't have the luxury of NPC stations in their territory. Hence why that decision demonstrates wisdom and maturity. I can think of more than a few people that would be all "Frack it, we're going all-out!" anyway. ArsC Director of Logistics and Industry "Building our way to a better Tomorrow"
Cuebick	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:20:00 - [194] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Cuebick Respect to Galavet, DB Preacher, Molle, Dianabolic and all of you. May we have good fights and keep the good humor close to us You're primary, we'll have no respect here :D Should be fun mr cue. I should have put a z or x infront of my name so I dont appear so far up in the name list =( ____________________________________
USN CVN73	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:24:00 - [195] Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:26:57 Lets see how fast Fix makes the war between BoB and SA instead of Fix Vs SA. If i was a Fix member i would be very embarressed that BoB has to come in to save the day. Frankly though with Band of Brothers in the picture they guarantee one thing. and that is FIX being their slaves for future dealings... Once again i would be really ashamed being in FIX ALLIANCE... No Honor - U lose FAT then u run to Daddy BOB for help once u felt threataned. Fix trys to leave the War from SA without surrender terms. Then when Surrender Terms are given Fix says NO because they got BOB to crawl too. Oh my, this day was coming for a long time and Band of Brothers was waiting for the day that Fix would come crawling for thier help. I wonder if Band of Brothers really knows how Fix thinks of them. Fix would back stab BoB so fast if they had the opportunity. Fix talks so much smack in local about BoB saying that Fix doesnt need Band of Brothers to save Fix. They even said Fix would own Band of Brothers Alliance if they had the opportunity again to goto war. Fix are manipulators they can care less about objectives all they care about is who is going to save them... If i was Band of Brothers i would demand lots of compensation from fix cause frankly Fix doesnt deserve to be saved by any alliance. Especially when they talk behind peoples backs all the time... Good Luck Fix, U still will die and i hope BOB will observe how much Fix sucks lately and not provide them with much help. There comes a time when big daddy wont be there to save the day. Fix - if u call yourself the #2 alliance in all of Eve - maybe u should act like it and FIGHT to protect your interests... Bob has more important matters than to SAVE U... USN This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Builders. At Least Band of Builders have objectives - Fix are an alliance holding on by a thread now hiding under the BOB Umbrella.
smallgreenblur	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:27:00 - [196] Edited by: smallgreenblur on 31/01/2006 17:28:14 Originally by: USN CVN73 Lets see how fast Fix makes the war between BoB and SA instead of Fix Vs SA. If i was a Fix member i would be very embarressed that BoB has to come in to save the day. Frankly though with Band of Brothers in the picture they guarantee one thing. and that is FIX being their slaves for future dealings... Once again i would be really ashamed being in FIX ALLIANCE... No Honor - U lose FAT then u run to Daddy BOB for help once u felt threataned. Fix trys to leave the War from SA without surrender terms. Then when Surrender Terms are given Fix says NO because they got BOB to crawl too. Oh my, this day was coming for a long time and Band of Brothers was waiting for the day that Fix would come crawling for thier help. I wonder if Band of Brothers really knows how Fix thinks of them. Fix would back stab BoB so fast if they had the opportunity. Fix talks so much smack in local about BoB saying that Fix doesnt need Band of Builders to save Fix. They even said Fix would own Band of Brothers Alliance if they had the opportunity again to goto war. Fix are manipulators they can care less about objectives all they care about is who is going to save them... If i was Band of Brothers i would demand lots of compensation from fix cause frankly Fix doesnt deserve to be saved by any alliance. Especially when they talk behind peoples backs all the time... Good Luck Fix, U still will die and i hope BOB will observe how much Fix sucks lately and not provide them with much help. There comes a time when big daddy wont be there to save the day. Fix - if u call yourself the #2 alliance in all of Eve - maybe u should act like it and FIGHT to protect your interests... Bob has more important matters than to SAVE U... USN This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Builders. At Least Band of Builders have objectives - Fix are an alliance holding on by a thread now hiding under the BOB Umbrella. If anybody cares USN was a fix pilot but got kicked out over some controversy. Just putting things into perspective. Kudos to Huzzah for having an attack of common sense :) sgb Edit: forgot to mention that fix likely rejected surrender terms since they involved giving SA complete free reign in Querious. You do the math.
The Dokter	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:32:00 - [197] Euhh, Euhh, Euhh, get your facts straight and come back. Would any alliance ever agree with surrender terms where you have to let another alliance, npc, mine, dock, etc? No I don't think so. It looks like BOB only was interest in stabilty in south, SA said bring in on, even then BOB said SA would have to think it over, the SA went into BOB space and shot on there pilots. I don't think any alliance would see that as a friendly approach? So I don't think this has anything to do with FIX asking for help. More with SA being.......
John Leitch	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:34:00 - [198] Originally by: USN CVN73 Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:28:45 Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:26:57 Lets see how fast Fix makes the war between BoB and SA instead of Fix Vs SA. If i was a Fix member i would be very embarressed that BoB has to come in to save the day. Frankly though with Band of Brothers in the picture they guarantee one thing. and that is FIX being their slaves for future dealings... Once again i would be really ashamed being in FIX ALLIANCE... No Honor - U lose FAT then u run to Daddy BOB for help once u felt threataned. Fix trys to leave the War from SA without surrender terms. Then when Surrender Terms are given Fix says NO because they got BOB to crawl too. Oh my, this day was coming for a long time and Band of Brothers was waiting for the day that Fix would come crawling for thier help. I wonder if Band of Brothers really knows how Fix thinks of them. Fix would back stab BoB so fast if they had the opportunity. Fix talks so much smack in local about BoB saying that Fix doesnt need Band of Brothers to save Fix. They even said Fix would own Band of Brothers Alliance if they had the opportunity again to goto war. Fix are manipulators they can care less about objectives all they care about is who is going to save them... If i was Band of Brothers i would demand lots of compensation from fix cause frankly Fix doesnt deserve to be saved by any alliance. Especially when they talk behind peoples backs all the time... Good Luck Fix, U still will die and i hope BOB will observe how much Fix sucks lately and not provide them with much help. There comes a time when big daddy wont be there to save the day. Fix - if u call yourself the #2 alliance in all of Eve - maybe u should act like it and FIGHT to protect your interests... Bob has more important matters than to SAVE U... USN This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Brothers. At Least Band of Brothers have objectives - Fix are an alliance holding on by a thread now hiding under the BOB Umbrella. Bob isnt saving the day, there simply reacting to a war dec from the mighty SA :) Just like SA 'reacted' when FIX sent them to neutral standings. There only defending themslelves really
USN CVN73	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:40:00 - [199] yep thats kewl bro. BOB has a reason for entering into the conflict. Still cant say much about Fix. they are the puppets now and they know it... Fix will talk all the crap they want now because they will feel protected by the Bob umbrella. I feel very confident once u see Fix pvp in action u wont want to fight for them... USN
whisk	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:46:00 - [200] Four words.... best forum thread ever! SA you really can't blame FIX for bringing in BoB. From the looks of it, BoB had not decided if you over stepped the mark or FIX had, then you go and war dec them. Who ever is in charge of SA right now, god pure comedy gold is all i can say.

Orree	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:49:00 - [201] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: Rod Blaine -- snip -- Rod, in one word. Shut up. That's two words, genius.
RacerX1	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:54:00 - [202] USN you never cease to amaze me...Do look forward to seeing you on the battlefield.
Bad Obsession	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:56:00 - [203] Linkage
Top Hat	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:59:00 - [204] Originally by: USN CVN73 Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:28:45 Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:26:57 Lets see how fast Fix makes the war between BoB and SA instead of Fix Vs SA. If i was a Fix member i would be very embarressed that BoB has to come in to save the day. Frankly though with Band of Brothers in the picture they guarantee one thing. and that is FIX being their slaves for future dealings... Once again i would be really ashamed being in FIX ALLIANCE... No Honor - U lose FAT then u run to Daddy BOB for help once u felt threataned. Fix trys to leave the War from SA without surrender terms. Then when Surrender Terms are given Fix says NO because they got BOB to crawl too. Oh my, this day was coming for a long time and Band of Brothers was waiting for the day that Fix would come crawling for thier help. I wonder if Band of Brothers really knows how Fix thinks of them. Fix would back stab BoB so fast if they had the opportunity. Fix talks so much smack in local about BoB saying that Fix doesnt need Band of Brothers to save Fix. They even said Fix would own Band of Brothers Alliance if they had the opportunity again to goto war. Fix are manipulators they can care less about objectives all they care about is who is going to save them... If i was Band of Brothers i would demand lots of compensation from fix cause frankly Fix doesnt deserve to be saved by any alliance. Especially when they talk behind peoples backs all the time... Good Luck Fix, U still will die and i hope BOB will observe how much Fix sucks lately and not provide them with much help. There comes a time when big daddy wont be there to save the day. Fix - if u call yourself the #2 alliance in all of Eve - maybe u should act like it and FIGHT to protect your interests... Bob has more important matters than to SAVE U... USN This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Brothers. At Least Band of Brothers have objectives - Fix are an alliance holding on by a thread now hiding under the BOB Umbrella. Worst attempt ever at trying to create a divide.
Doppleganger	Posted - 2006.01.31 18:10:00 - [205] Originally by: USN CVN73 This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Brothers. Thats all you have done in all these months since leaving FIX USN...
dalman	Posted - 2006.01.31 18:24:00 - [206] Originally by: Top Hat Worst attempt ever at trying to create a divide. No need to. As we all know how entangled you are. You just need to go read the public parts of the FIX forums to see that you in RKK offered FIX your help quite some time ago, and that FIX actually had the honour to reject it until they were completely beaten on the battlefield. 'Stabile south' - what a load of crap. If you wanted to have a stabile south, you would have acted immediately and stopped any of the 3! attacks made by FIX on us, put pressure on them and warned them about their future conduct. Instead each time you wait until we've reacted and given FIX a whopping: First then you step in and say 'stop'. That is not the way to pretend you're neutral, nor the way to create stability. - That's the way to demonstrate that you've picked sides from the beginning. And whatever we've done that made you so clearly choose them over us from the beginning, I have no idea. Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin. Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
dalman	Posted - 2006.01.31 18:28:00 - [207] Originally by: whisk From the looks of it, BoB had not decided if you over stepped the mark or FIX had, then you go and war dec them. From the looks of it, most of BoB had picked sides long ago, with only a smaller part standing up for their old allies. As such it was only a matter of time before they'd officially picked "you know which side". Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin. Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
Happysin	Posted - 2006.01.31 18:30:00 - [208] Originally by: Bad Obsession Linkage But, but I've been working on my Tech II Pony skills! ArsC Director of Logistics and Industry "Building our way to a better Tomorrow"
Leno	Posted - 2006.01.31 18:31:00 - [209] Edited by: Leno on 31/01/2006 18:31:33 Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: Rod Blaine -- snip -- Rod, in one word. Shut up. That's 2 words... --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
USN CVN73	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:00:00 - [210] USN speaks truth!!! I respect BOB so all i can say is look closer to your friends in Querious. Tell yourselves does fix deserve to be saved? if they can't beat Stain Alliance on their own why should Fix even deserve BOB's protection. BOB are true Pvpers. Fix are now carebears desperate for help. Stain will destroy Fix. Stain proves day in day out that they fight - Fix for the last 6 weeks proved they cant handle the heat. I dare any Fix member to step up to the forums and post. Fix knows they are Beat only to be saved by BOB intervention. somone from FIX post and defend yourself. Seems only in this thread non fix entities are responding . Wonder Why? cause Fix are laughing in a corner right now saying now that BOB is in the war FIX can beat SA. USN



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