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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:12:00 -
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Howdy.
Fix has rejected the surrender terms being given by us and we will now proceed into illiminating thier alliance into ashes untill they kindlly agree to the terms in quetion.
Have a nice day-cycle.
Orc A, on behalf of The SA.
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Otakanishj
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:13:00 -
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:17:00 -
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You show those other southeners who's boss!
-omg-
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:18:00 -
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Wow guess our trip north is been cut short..back to killing SA ahh well.
" Stay Frosty "
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:26:00 -
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 Originally by: corporal hicks
Wow guess our trip north is been cut short..back to killing SA ahh well.
Gang me, Hicks.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Turin
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:38:00 -
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Just curious. What were the terms?
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Rael Anshak
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Turin
Just curious. What were the terms?
SA wanted Dianabolics body for their "use" and fix would NOT give it up, cuz hell, who would.
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: corporal hicks
Wow guess our trip north is been cut short..back to killing SA ahh well.
Gang me, Hicks.
Me too please.
Someone needs to get ahold of me and make it pronto.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:48:00 -
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Bob, Convo me, i got interesting stuff to share :)
Im going to be unreachable next 24hours, Please, if you dont get hold of me tonight, get hold of Balbriggan, he'll be speaking in my name.
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Someone needs to get ahold of me and make it pronto.
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ILIKEBIGBUTTS ANDICANNOT
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:50:00 -
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it appears that bob may lose their meatshield
oh the humanity
indeed....
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:55:00 -
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forgive me if I sound stupid, but I reckon by the replies from Dianabolic that SA and BoB are hostile now? 
/me crawls under his rock.
Give miners a log off timer
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:11:00 -
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oh noez bob is coming
bring it
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
forgive me if I sound stupid, but I reckon by the replies from Dianabolic that SA and BoB are hostile now?
/me crawls under his rock.
One could very easily assume so now for sure. 
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:15:00 -
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This is good.
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RacerX1
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:22:00 -
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FAT is one thing..Q another...interesting times loom ahead : ) GL to everyone that'll be involved.
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:27:00 -
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This will be fun, no doubt about it. Fighting ex mates will bring alot of competition.
And ASUYA get back in the pipe, don't be lazy!
Over and out.
Cuebick [The Collective - Stain Alliance]
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: RacerX1
FAT is one thing..Q another...interesting times loom ahead : ) GL to everyone that'll be involved.
I like Querious, I think I still have bookmarks there.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:30:00 -
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Sounds like fun for all you guys.
GL to everyone involved.
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:31:00 -
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Good luck in Querious.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:33:00 -
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Interesting.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cuebick
This will be fun, no doubt about it. Fighting ex mates will bring alot of competition.
And ASUYA get back in the pipe, don't be lazy!
Over and out.
Cuebick [The Collective - Stain Alliance]
Blah we were having fun and you guys make a ceasefire and then we say hell lets go north and make someone else's life misrable and now SA get all high and mighty (read gibs post) and now we have to move back down ect ect, my freighter pilots are not impressed with all this hauling!
" Stay Frosty "
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Zysco on 31/01/2006 00:37:15
o_O interesting.
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SLIM
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:37:00 -
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Good luck, FIX. SA, may you live in interesting times.
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:42:00 -
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I'm just gonna asume by the replys of various Triad members that the FIX ties are somewhat closer then led to believe, and BoB coming as well? Guess I'll finally see first hand if all the storys are true 
The Collective
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:46:00 -
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So why didn't FIX start out getting BOB to help?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 31/01/2006 00:48:43
I have just one thing to say.
Bring it on.
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Proud member of the [23].
The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ashelth
So why didn't FIX start out getting BOB to help?
Why didn't you try to take down FIX on your own?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Walkin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:50:00 -
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fix didnt ask bob to help from the start because we are "FA's Lapdog"
what a short memory you lil freaks have :)
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:51:00 -
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No Fix pilots will reply to this thread please.
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Civic
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:56:00 -
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Very Interesting, GL :)
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Celek
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:00:00 -
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interesting.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: RacerX1
FAT is one thing..Q another...interesting times loom ahead : ) GL to everyone that'll be involved.
No kiddin. Wake us all up when 9CG changes hands. I might even get some popcorn and a soda then. Until then...meh.
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Isonkon Serikain
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:26:00 -
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SA deserves to be put back in its place... Just weeks before it attacked FIX, FIX was flying helping SA get rid of G/Iron in their own space...
And then they decided they wanted to take FAT back, after FIX had helped secure SA space... SA started to try and rally as much support for that cause, even contacting SE corps and tried to mend ties, after THEY too had been backstabbed by SA, again in a deal with FIX... These guys switch camps whenever it benefits them...
I can't wait to see BOB and FIX nail SA to the wall... There's simply no way SA can come out on top of this one... I might apply to FIX or BOB just to take part in this!
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Quaren
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
SA deserves to be put back in its place... Just weeks before it attacked FIX, FIX was flying helping SA get rid of G/Iron in their own space...
And then they decided they wanted to take FAT back, after FIX had helped secure SA space... SA started to try and rally as much support for that cause, even contacting SE corps and tried to mend ties, after THEY too had been backstabbed by SA, again in a deal with FIX... These guys switch camps whenever it benefits them...
I can't wait to see BOB and FIX nail SA to the wall... There's simply no way SA can come out on top of this one... I might apply to FIX or BOB just to take part in this!
You do know that FIX started the war not us?
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JediLover
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:29:00 -
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They all melt the same - more targets, more enjoying videogame - so welcome new foes let the pain begin
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:30:00 -
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It's typical to see various FIX pilots getting all pumped up 
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:34:00 -
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This is cute...
First Fix steal catch from SA while napped, then Fix set SA as neutral and claim they're gonna shoot SA in the corridor and then SA bites back and takes it's region back, resulting in Fix crawling to their masters in Bob and having them bring out the forum brigade and the threatsquad.
Just because Bob couldn't finish Fix and napped them instead, no one can finish them off?
This sure isn't the Bob ppl used to look up to tbh 
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Grimster
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
This is cute...
First Fix steal catch from SA while napped, then Fix set SA as neutral and claim they're gonna shoot SA in the corridor and then SA bites back and takes it's region back, resulting in Fix crawling to their masters in Bob and having them bring out the forum brigade and the threatsquad.
Just because Bob couldn't finish Fix and napped them instead, no one can finish them off?
This sure isn't the Bob ppl used to look up to tbh
WTS... Clue.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:41:00 -
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Wts humility.. Will accept t2 ships as payment
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Furystorm
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Furystorm on 31/01/2006 01:44:25
Edited by: Furystorm on 31/01/2006 01:42:41
Originally by: Grimster
Originally by: Masta Killa
This is cute...
First Fix steal catch from SA while napped, then Fix set SA as neutral and claim they're gonna shoot SA in the corridor and then SA bites back and takes it's region back, resulting in Fix crawling to their masters in Bob and having them bring out the forum brigade and the threatsquad.
Just because Bob couldn't finish Fix and napped them instead, no one can finish them off?
This sure isn't the Bob ppl used to look up to tbh
WTS... Clue.
WTS BRAINS!!! to the bob guy.
Btw yea i know this isant my real character it put this guy on here for some reason.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Furystorm
WTS BRAINS!!!
Btw yea i know this isant my real character it put this guy on here for some reason.
Oopsie, that rattle you? Sorry.
GL to all involved.
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Isonkon Serikain
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Quaren
Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
SA deserves to be put back in its place... Just weeks before it attacked FIX, FIX was flying helping SA get rid of G/Iron in their own space...
And then they decided they wanted to take FAT back, after FIX had helped secure SA space... SA started to try and rally as much support for that cause, even contacting SE corps and tried to mend ties, after THEY too had been backstabbed by SA, again in a deal with FIX... These guys switch camps whenever it benefits them...
I can't wait to see BOB and FIX nail SA to the wall... There's simply no way SA can come out on top of this one... I might apply to FIX or BOB just to take part in this!
You do know that FIX started the war not us?
I actually remember some communications circulating regarding the plotting to take catch back... Fix set SA to 00 standings after SA pilots decided to take pot shots at them for fun... Seems like that there was a lot of planning ahead in the SA camp.
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Kamui Shiro
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:50:00 -
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Hmm... so I guess this means the "End of SA part 2" is coming.
First was when G/IRON invaded and now because BoB will be doing the same thing.
Anyways goodluck to SA and co. You will need it.
The north should be smiling right now, knowing their invasion of the south is going to be much easier if SA is out of the picture again. |
corporal hicks
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kamui Shiro
Hmm... so I guess this means the "End of SA part 2" is coming.
First was when G/IRON invaded and now because BoB will be doing the same thing.
Anyways goodluck to SA and co. You will need it.
The north should be smiling right now, knowing their invasion of the south is going to be much easier if SA is out of the picture again.
Could be EVE wide war here, EW1, EVE WAR 1!!!
" Stay Frosty "
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:54:00 -
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Hicks I'll go alert the germans, their time is coming again! 
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kamui Shiro
The north should be smiling right now, knowing their invasion of the south is going to be much easier if SA is out of the picture again.
it should be VERY obvious by now that there is NO MORE north vs. south.
im glad. im really happy now
-G- Pink Power
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:04:00 -
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When the kids start fighting
Daddy sometimes has to come in and sort them out
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Reiken Moisark
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:11:00 -
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Of all the alliances ever in EVE I can say this...
SA is by far the longest standing alliance of total idiots.
You guys brought three alliances at FIX and it took you a month and a half to get ONE SYSTEM. So yeah... good luck now that they're actually done playing games with you.
I know from experience, FIX in an unadulterated frenzy isn't a pretty site. You guys already made their dead weight leave, you're only dealing with the hard-core and old-timers now. Good luck with that... considering you can't seem to work a keyboard...
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CtapikKozlodoyev
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:11:00 -
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but daddy cant afford to take sides.... daddy needs to be fair.
If daddy is unfair, daddy faces Mr Consequences.
Think about it.
kthnxbyelockthishistiamtehuberalt.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:18:00 -
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I can work on a keyboard, it's just that this is a new one, and it's hard to get used to. if your that childish, too bad for you.
As for the situation if Fix during this - We braught fix to thier knees and they chose to grab on to thier Big brothers rather then admitting defeat.
So, the SA will do what they need to do right now... but in the future, i can promise you that Fix WILL pay for it's arrogance, be it by our hands, or the hands of the ones who see our cause is just.
Good day.
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:20:00 -
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\o/
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: CtapikKozlodoyev
but daddy cant afford to take sides.... daddy needs to be fair.
If daddy is unfair, daddy faces Mr Consequences.
Think about it.
kthnxbyelockthishistiamtehuberalt.
There is no ministry of child welfare in eve...so we can beat the red curly hair right off the heads our kids however we please.....think about it
P.S. Orc.....just be quiet now...maybe if you stop talking, we will still let you have your dessert tonight
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Doal
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:27:00 -
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SA has made a habit of agreeing to cease-fires, then ignoring them moments later. This latest one is the third in the last month alone.
Beware making deals with SA. They break them more often than a ***** spreads her legs.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:27:00 -
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LoL @ arrogancy of Some BoBers.
Isn't it past yer bedtime, kiddo?
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:30:00 -
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Carbide, you are the ones that not only bailed out first, but even managed to loose control of your pilots in such manner that braught your NAP with SA to a termination... You broke the terms, not us.
Choose one of the following:
Buy a clue.
or
Stfu.
Done forum whoring for tonight... gnight all :D
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Doal
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:33:00 -
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Actually, Orc A, Carbide decided to leave FIX before this latest war broke out. We actually stayed longer to help FIX out. As to your claims that our pilots broke the NAP first, you've never provided names nor proof. You also never alerted Carbide leadership of the supposed breach of the NAP by Carbide. Frankly, I think you pretended to NAP us so you could get a few more ganks on indies full of loot.
Seems you're the one who needs to get a clue.
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Isonkon Serikain
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Doal
Edited by: Doal on 31/01/2006 02:27:43
SA has made a habit of agreeing to cease-fires, then ignoring them moments later. This latest one is the third in the last month alone.
Beware making deals with SA. They break them more often than a lady of the evening spreads her legs.
So true, yet another example of SA not holding their word.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Edited by: Orc A on 31/01/2006 02:27:48
LoL @ arrogance of Some BoBers.
Isn't it past yer bedtime, kiddo?
I am only arrogant when i can afford to be, and trust me, when it comes to this, I could strut around up and down this thread with my Private Ryan hanging out for all to see while I drank beer from the Stanley Cup and ate hot dogs off the crown of the queen of england mkay?
Secondly, why do you have to go "Isnt it past yer bestime, kiddo" Is this some sort of way to make yourself feel like a superior and a bigger man then me? DO i make you feel that insecure that i can say one thing on the forums and immediately for sence of security of yourself shrivles up like your manhood in a cold pool? Now cmon, there is no need to be afraid, im really a nice and cuddly guy once you get to know me.
Im an Aries, I enjoy walks on the beach, romantic candle lit dinners and I like to cuddle after
a/s/l?
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
CtapikKozlodoyev
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:40:00 -
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yay! easy ganks! lets all join Bob/Fix!
No wait... nothing to gank.. SA is dead, isn't it?
I mean... Forums said so :/
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:41:00 -
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This whole thing is actually turning out to be interesting, I like how Orc A is pretty much single handedly gonna turn all of eve against SA now, with his supreme diplomatic skillz0rs.
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Joan Smith
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Reiken Moisark
Of all the alliances ever in EVE I can say this...
SA is by far the longest standing alliance of total idiots.
You guys brought three alliances at FIX and it took you a month and a half to get ONE SYSTEM. So yeah... good luck now that they're actually done playing games with you.
I know from experience, FIX in an unadulterated frenzy isn't a pretty site. You guys already made their dead weight leave, you're only dealing with the hard-core and old-timers now. Good luck with that... considering you can't seem to work a keyboard...
for all the idots i know. u top them all... we didnt want a pos war.. we went there for the fleet battles...kthanxbye (fool)
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Edited by: Orc A on 31/01/2006 02:38:29
Regardning Stain's loyalty to it's Friends - It's bob's loyalty to it's Friends I'm more concerned about...
A true friend of Stain knows the value of our friendship.
1- you should be concerned about if BoB is your friend or not
2- The Value of your friendship is roughly equivalent to the market value of a 82 Buick
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:45:00 -
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Okey, i'm really gonna stop posting now... if i may quote Major Riven here for a sec...
Quote:
an Idiot will drag you down and beat you with Experience
kthnxbye
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DarkZaion
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:48:00 -
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GL TO ALL
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Cosmo Raata
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:07:00 -
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Just to correct the quote,
"Never argue with an idiot, they will only pull you down to their level & beat your with their experience".
- Major Riven
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whisk
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:20:00 -
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No offence and all but Orc A you are one of the most idiotic people i've ever seen in eve.
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munkehdotnet
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:27:00 -
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:29:00 -
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im so sick of all this... like so many have said before "SA is dead " so why does bob need to save FIX from a dead alliance and Huzzah.... whos really doing the propaganda? come on this is so sad... im tired, FIX lost more ships always.. compare killboards... we careless for pos wars we're just tired of FIX.. the simple truth if FIX did put us to 0.0 standing and did not talk to us to resolve situation . none of this would be happening, and SA would have done wat they always wanted a unified south and unlike some south alliances we put all northern alliance threatening the south or our fellow brothers in the south to KOS and actively wanted to help. Its sad you cant see SA has always showed we would rather unify the south but seems we keep getting back stabbed by southern alliances that cant spend a few minutes to resolve all issues instead force us to show ...WE DONT CARE ONCE YOU START IT!! we try to get along but if those against us are not gunna be reasonable we will not be like FIX or whoever and let anyone bully us. if we are turned down to reasonable terms... then thats it ......we rather fight and go under siege like when G iron rzr and whoever else came to us then go against our belief that FIX is WRONG and needs to be dealt with.
people keep saying SA and Huzzah are picking on FIX...PLEASE read the forums FIX outnumbered SA and Huzzah combined in the start and we still came to there home after there refusal to resolve situation.
KAOS did come for a bit and left awhile ago ... but funny thing is FIX still outnumbered us in MOST fights. but i guess that doesnt matter.
and wats this BS about us always planning on taking FAT such crap.. we careless for FAT lol
simple basic truth ... SA said in the start FIX you shouldnt have put us to 0.0= KOS. NOW we will fight till you DIE and for us to not do that without your surrender is unacceptable.
ceasefire was held till FIX denied our TERMS ...so... the average JOE can figure this one out.....FIX refuse SA terms ...hmmmm maybe SA gonna attack FIX now?
anyways blah blah blah WE CRAZY ...and BRICKZ squad on the GOOOO
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Doal
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Edited by: Orc A on 31/01/2006 02:38:29
couldnt quiet go to sleep because i knew you'd answer, Doal...
And in responce to your statement - Fix never provided us with names or proof either... didn't stop them from putting us to 0.0 to begin with, did it?
Regardning Stain's loyalty to it's Friends - It's bob's loyalty to it's Friends I'm more concerned about...
A true friend of Stain knows the value of our friendship.
Dont expect to know it too if you aren't a firned to begin with.
This time for real, Good night.
Frankly, I could care less why FIX set SA to 0.0. I personally disagreed with that move.
However, it's interesting to point out that instead of replying in kind, SA IMMEDIATELY set FIX to -10.0 and invaded FIX space. Just like the 3 additional broken agreements, SA gave no warning and refused to even discuss their disagreements with FIX, instead intent of fighting.
You can be honest, Orc A, and admit that you want to gank whoever you can whenever you can. After all, it is just a game.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:42:00 -
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umm ORC A convoed FIX when they set SA to 0.0 and tried resolving the issue and your FIX bubbys said ... "WE dont need an hour to make sure your 0.0=KOS in corridor, WE ARE SURE".... so check on that please.
everyone in 0.0 knows once you set sumone to 0.0standings you want aggression please.
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Raytesh
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:43:00 -
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 Why couldnt we let the SA name go on a good note before SE was created. SA like CA are the days of the past. Why must the name continue to be used.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:44:00 -
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[Annoying freespacer commercial break]
We don't. We operate NRDS.
[/Annoying freespacer commercial break]
Digital Communist> The Jin-Mei are probably more profficient in training for Tofu and Noodles than Spaceship Command |
Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:45:00 -
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I think SA have singlehandedly proved to be the most idiotic alliance in Eve. Seriously, you got hostile with FIX for whatever reason and brought in Huzzah and Kaos. What did you think was going to happen when you pushed it too far? BoB were just going to sit back and let you roll into Querious uncontested?
Stain in all its various forms have had a long history of fscking up things in the south for everyone. Do you honestly believe anyone in their right mind would let you get too close? Querious is a vital route to empire, and also a buffer for the utter stupidity that are some of the neighboring alliances.
I don't presume to give the final word for anyone in BoB, but I've been around long enough to see the big picture here. Stain Alliance is no longer one of the solid southern alliances; they've degenerated into a liability for everyone around them.
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:55:00 -
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Things are getting interesting, smack on forums ftw !@!@! :D
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2006.01.31 04:32:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 31/01/2006 01:42:18
SA deserves to be put back in its place... Just weeks before it attacked FIX, FIX was flying helping SA get rid of G/Iron in their own space...I was one of them running fix gangs and I remember SA pilots thanking us in local when we flied through.
And then they decided they wanted to take FAT back, after FIX had helped secure SA space... SA started to try and rally as much support for that cause, even contacting SE corps and tried to mend ties, after THEY too had been backstabbed by SA, again in a deal with FIX... These guys switch camps whenever it benefits them... This time they went too far.
I can't wait to see BOB and FIX nail SA to the wall... There's simply no way SA can come out on top of this one... I might apply to FIX or BOB just to take part in this!
We WERE on good terms with FIX during and after G/Iron were in the south.
Which is WHY the war was such a suprise to SA. The war started with FIX setting SA to 0.0 standings, which with a NBSI policy means we became KOS in the catch corridor (the way between empire and home).
Then it was FIX + fix trial corps + closely allied yet ex-fix corps vs SA, HF and for part of the conflict KAOS.
Even now after reading all of the posts regarding it I still have no idea why it started.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 04:39:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Maya Rkell
[Annoying freespacer commercial break]
We don't. We operate NRDS.
[/Annoying freespacer commercial break]
/QFT.
There are quite a few corps and alliance that don't operate on NBSI. Most alliances only operate on NBSI in their claimed space.
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2006.01.31 04:54:00 -
[78]
So everyone has the general idea now?
SA lied
FIX lied
Everyone lied
Someone stole cookies
Someone else cried about above cookies
Fights happened
Now on a serious note, as SA used an ally to help in its cause against FIX there is no reason why FIX cannot request assistance to fight back. This is the point of having friends, inter alliance NAPs, agreements, whatever. It is most unfortunate however, that it appears BoB will be taking up arms against SA as we've always held a friendship in some form over the past years since the beginning of Eve. Good luck to all people concerned in whatever may occur in the next chapter of Eve history.
To those SA pilots that can't spell, punctuate, sucessfuly construct a sentence, do not know what they are talking about and and most importantly are using heresay to fuel a somewhat enflamed situation - please stop. Your doing nothing (as others have pointed out) except showing what a bunch of kiddies you are.
If anyone wishes to discuss diplomatic issues with SA (hey at least let us know we're Red so we can adjust standings to) you may contact Orc A, Gloria Khan or myself through the usual CCP supplied channels.
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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:01:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 31/01/2006 01:42:18
I can't wait to see BOB and FIX nail SA to the wall... There's simply no way SA can come out on top of this one... I might apply to FIX or BOB just to take part in this!
If siding on the strongest side just to take part in it is your reason - you wont really enjoy it :P
You would be.. uhm, BoB's cannon fodder? or something like that which being pulled after the rest of the gang?
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warpag0n
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:06:00 -
[80]
sa are just no puppets !! @ bob... u guys think we are stupid nooo problem just bring it and stop da forum smack
u guys can all hate us cause we fight for da honor
nobody is scared here bring your titan and shoot our npc stations... and protect fix your little mining slaves
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Reiken Moisark
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:13:00 -
[81]
OMG WAIT!!!! I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
Orc A has been involved in every single thing that went wrong. The common thread is ALSO the weakest link!
I mean seriously SA, if you guys can't appoint someone who can speak proper English to represent you do you REALLY expect anyone to take you seriously?
From everything I've seen you didn't beat FIX like you're claiming. You spent 45 days taking a single system then negotiated a ceasefire only to break it 24 hours later.
You guys really have that little control over yourselves. You're like a dark ally where losers go to congregate. I heard Orc A was even ****ing off people in Huzzah... but I admit that's just hearsay anyhow...
Sounds like TR1GGER's days are numbered... I suggest he grow a beard, get weird and move into the mountains before it's too late.
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warpag0n
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:16:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Reiken Moisark
OMG WAIT!!!! I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
Ybefore it's too late.
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Paradox Eve
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:18:00 -
[83]
This should all be fun. Is there really anything more that needs to be said at this time? Out of the forums and into the battlefield!
Main =
The Mind
FIX Aliiance
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warpag0n
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:20:00 -
[84]
word
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Melkinor T'sbanion
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:27:00 -
[85]
Orc, I laugh at this pathetic attempt at showing you are not an idiot. It is not the keyboard, it is what is between YOUR (note correct usage) ears that is broken. Here, I've FIXed your post.. Correction in parentheses:
Originally by: Orc A
I can work on a keyboard, it's just that this is a new one, and it's hard to get used to. if your (you're - a contraction of you are) that childish, too bad for you.
As for the situation i(o)f Fix during this - We braught (brought) fix (FIX - stands for Firmus IXion) to thier (their) knees and they chose to grab on to (onto) thier (their) Big brothers rather then (than) admitting defeat.
So, the SA will do what they need to do right now... but in the future, i can promise you that Fix WILL pay for it's (its is the correct possesive form, it's is always a contraction of it is) arrogance, be it by our hands, or the hands of the ones who see our cause is just.
Good day.
Hmm, it does seem you are getting used to your new keyboard. That last paragraph wasn't so bad ...
It will only be a good day when you are dead. Which will be soon.
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Smokemon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:33:00 -
[86]
wrong char ^^ heh
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:33:00 -
[87]
umm.. english isn't everyones 1st language
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Naytaliak
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:33:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Reiken Moisark
OMG WAIT!!!! I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
Orc A has been involved in every single thing that went wrong. The common thread is ALSO the weakest link!
I mean seriously SA, if you guys can't appoint someone who can speak proper English to represent you do you REALLY expect anyone to take you seriously?
From everything I've seen you didn't beat FIX like you're claiming. You spent 45 days taking a single system then negotiated a ceasefire only to break it 24 hours later.
You guys really have that little control over yourselves. You're like a dark ally where losers go to congregate. I heard Orc A was even ****ing off people in Huzzah... but I admit that's just hearsay anyhow...
Sounds like TR1GGER's days are numbered... I suggest he grow a beard, get weird and move into the mountains before it's too late.
As is the case with most trolls, your analysis is incorrect.
SA + HF took 3 systems (with stations) v2-vc2, 5-n2ey, and FAT. The first engagement was somewhere around dec 15th. FAT fell around Jan 20th. Just about a month, for 3 systems, for an overall gain of about 50 star systems. HF is standing with our allies SA, fortunately, diplomats are working on the situation and it will be settled (for better or for worse) soon. This continual forum posturing is pathetic and worthless. Nearly everyone posting in this thread have no authority and most likely, no clue as to the inner workings of the alliances involved (myself included). So lets stop the forum flame war, and get back ingame. Posting news updates is good, having other's opinions makes a great read, but the insults are just stupid.
Thanks for reading!
-Smokemon proud member of GSY, <HF>
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Reiken Moisark
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:42:00 -
[89]
Originally by: HellsRazor
umm.. english isn't everyones 1st language
Then perhaps if your negotiator doesn't speak English they shouldn't be negotiating with those who do?
I've never been impressed with anything SA tried to do. I'm not alone in that sentiment and this pathetic excuse for a war they staged is no exception. Spies aside breaking a ceasefire within 24 hours is quite dishonorable... but attempting to win through deviant measures is something SA is known for.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:43:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Sceartan
So everyone has the general idea now?
SA lied
FIX lied
Everyone lied
Someone stole cookies
Someone else cried about above cookies
Fights happened
Now on a serious note, as SA used an ally to help in its cause against FIX there is no reason why FIX cannot request assistance to fight back. This is the point of having friends, inter alliance NAPs, agreements, whatever. It is most unfortunate however, that it appears BoB will be taking up arms against SA as we've always held a friendship in some form over the past years since the beginning of Eve. Good luck to all people concerned in whatever may occur in the next chapter of Eve history.
To those SA pilots that can't spell, punctuate, sucessfuly construct a sentence, do not know what they are talking about and and most importantly are using heresay to fuel a somewhat enflamed situation - please stop. Your doing nothing (as others have pointed out) except showing what a bunch of kiddies you are.
If anyone wishes to discuss diplomatic issues with SA (hey at least let us know we're Red so we can adjust standings to) you may contact Orc A, Gloria Khan or myself through the usual CCP supplied channels.
Decent post,
To the rest of you,
Fueling a somewhat nothing situation as most people in this thread are doing is premature, leave it for the big boys to sort out before you start with the speculation & smack.
PS, SA chaps, get a new spokesman who is coherent.
Ta.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:43:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Orc A on 31/01/2006 05:43:37
Sure, My english aint perfect, what can you do...
I can switch to Russian or Hebrew if it would suit you better?
And i'm alot more udnerstandable on TS :D
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Wierd Beard
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:47:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Reiken Moisark
OMG WAIT!!!! I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
Orc A has been involved in every single thing that went wrong. The common thread is ALSO the weakest link!
I mean seriously SA, if you guys can't appoint someone who can speak proper English to represent you do you REALLY expect anyone to take you seriously?
From everything I've seen you didn't beat FIX like you're claiming. You spent 45 days taking a single system then negotiated a ceasefire only to break it 24 hours later.
You guys really have that little control over yourselves. You're like a dark ally where losers go to congregate. I heard Orc A was even ****ing off people in Huzzah... but I admit that's just hearsay anyhow...
Sounds like TR1GGER's days are numbered... I suggest he grow a beard, get weird and move into the mountains before it's too late.
Hands off the Beard yo...but for 20 bux I'll be your love bunny
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:55:00 -
[93]
so sad people are resorting to ignorant rants about someone that can speak multiple languages good enough... but i guess unless you can only speak english perfectly is all that matters in this game.
Orc A is best Diplomat ever because he is not a TOOL to someone else and all he does is relay in the best words he can the majority of SA. Simply SHUT UP and BRING IT if you want to fight us for whatever reason you want to think of.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2006.01.31 06:13:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Orc A
Howdy.
Fix has rejected the surrender terms being given by us and we will now proceed into illiminating thier alliance into ashes untill they kindlly agree to the terms in quetion.
Have a nice day-cycle.
Orc A, on behalf of The SA.
1) State which "term" that was refused.
2) Think long and hard before you reply.
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Hithero Wolf
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Posted - 2006.01.31 06:26:00 -
[95]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Orc A
Howdy.
Fix has rejected the surrender terms being given by us and we will now proceed into illiminating thier alliance into ashes untill they kindlly agree to the terms in quetion.
Have a nice day-cycle.
Orc A, on behalf of The SA.
1) State which "term" that was refused.
2) Think long and hard before you reply.
Im not orc, so i dont have to think i guess, since i can be very wrong.
But what i was told last night, FIX refused to take down thier POS in FAT.
As i said, im just a grunt, i can be wrong.
Sincerly
Hithero Wolf
MASS
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2006.01.31 06:40:00 -
[96]
It's been a long time since there has been anything this entertaining to read in this forum. Thank you.
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aradakran
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Posted - 2006.01.31 06:42:00 -
[97]
Apparently SA Demanded FIX to Disband and for SA to have free travel / mine / dock rights in Q. First of all the POS's in FAT-6P haven't been moved cause cease fire was still shakey, and apparently, not tough enough. I believe FIX held their end of the bargain, and mainly because SA was so ****ed BOB interfered, they looked for any reason to point the finger and start shooting again. Bad form SA.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.31 06:44:00 -
[98]
the thing i have a problem with in this is people saying we started this...heres a nice timeline for you
1) fix set sa to 0.0
2) fix fire on sa in corridor
3) sa attack fix
4) bob force ceasefire
5)fix break ceasefire by attacking yourstruly
6) sa cancel ceasefire
7) 2nd ceace fire in effect
8) sa offer terms of surrender
9) fix refuse terms (probably knowing that they will be saved by uncle bob)
10) sa cancel ceasefire
11) judging from the bob posts here...my prediction from day 1 of this war comes true and bob come and save fix (which really explains the arrogance of fix towards sa, knowing they are in no real dangeour)
but what ever happens now ill just continue to enjoy myself.
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aradakran
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Posted - 2006.01.31 06:50:00 -
[99]
Originally by: dantes inferno
Edited by: dantes inferno on 31/01/2006 06:46:02
the thing i have a problem with in this is people saying we started this...heres a nice timeline for you
1) fix set sa to 0.0
2) fix fire on sa in corridor
3) sa attack fix
4) bob force ceasefire
5)fix break ceasefire by attacking yourstruly
6) sa cancel ceasefire
7) 2nd ceace fire in effect
8) sa offer terms of surrender
9) fix refuse terms (probably knowing that they will be saved by uncle bob)
10) sa cancel ceasefire
11) judging from the bob posts here...my prediction from day 1 of this war comes true and bob come and save fix (which really explains the arrogance of fix towards sa, knowing they are in no real dangeour)
but what ever happens now ill just continue to enjoy myself.
Quote:
Apparently SA Demanded FIX to Disband
and no we did not demand that, all the demands are quite doable by fix...but why would they agree to anything when they know what will happen if the war continues?
Your demands wern't listed specifically for a very precise reason, Inferno. Prophaghandi for the win.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:01:00 -
[100]
i wont list the exact demands...as its ot my place..i will say there were 3 of them, 2 of which involved getting out of fat and not returning..1 of which involved travel rights and a rather silly personal request for a 1v1 from orc..so i dont see the anything really terrible in there. but hey even if the surrender deal was to transfer 0.1 isk to sa fix would refuse..because its very much to their advantage for the war to continue now.
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Yrana
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:04:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Yrana on 31/01/2006 07:04:31
hmmm, think that timeline is missing the first few parts.
1)ex-fix corps killed stuff in hed-gp
2)SA pilots get twitchy and fire on a FIX pilot
3)FIX sets SA to 0.0
4)SA sets FIX to -10
5)FIX sets SA to -10
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CopeLand
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:10:00 -
[102]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Orc A
Howdy.
Fix has rejected the surrender terms being given by us and we will now proceed into illiminating thier alliance into ashes untill they kindlly agree to the terms in quetion.
Have a nice day-cycle.
Orc A, on behalf of The SA.
1) State which "term" that was refused.
2) Think long and hard before you reply.
i think all the terms layed out are very well known to all those that they concern, both SA representitive aswell as atleast 2 bob and 2 fix representitives.
according to chatlog posted of this meeting on sa forums, the fix side of the table refused half of the terms, and after some consideration seemed to decline the whole thing and once again told SA to ****off.
quite similiar to the way they started this whole thing
very well
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danneh
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:14:00 -
[103]
Go FIX. 
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:15:00 -
[104]
Quote:
1)ex-fix corps killed stuff in hed-gp
2)SA pilots get twitchy and fire on a FIX pilot
3)FIX sets SA to 0.0
4)SA sets FIX to -10
5)FIX sets SA to -10
using your tabel ill fill in the most important blanks
1)ex-fix corps killed stuff in hed-gp
2)SA pilots get twitchy and fire on a FIX pilot who was flying with ex-fix corps
3)FIX sets SA to 0.0
3) orc a asks to reconsider fix refuse
4) fix fire on sa in corridor
5)SA sets FIX to -10
6)FIX sets SA to -10
get your facts straight
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"When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept |
Caldari Citizen757
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:17:00 -
[105]
My 2 cents, if SA wasnt smart enough to realize that this would inevitably happen, then its not anyones fault but SAs. BOB is FIX's neighbor, they protect each other mutually by keeping thier regions secure. Its in each others interests to watch the back of thier neighbor, as long as they are in good standing. Its SAs problem that they didnt go to BOB at the beginning(or before) the war and figure out where they were at or securing BOBs support. FIX could not have forseen HUZZAH or KAOS's participation in the war but what they could have done was ask for help from thier friends a little earlier. Fortunately for them the help is still gonna make it in time. SA has made the mistake and lost the upper hand. The fact that they are crying about it is just well... useless. |
dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:24:00 -
[106]
Quote:
My 2 cents, if SA wasnt smart enough to realize that this would inevitably happen
actualy we did. we didnt ask huzzah to help, they voluntered to do so, and we had hoped that flying with kaos would help rebuild some burnt bridges, as kaos are ex stain corps which left during the civil war. But hey thats enough with the posting, those involved will know what started this and no amount of arguing will change that,
fix were offered terms of surrender and refused, so the war continues if this means that bob will treat us as hostile..well thats an unfortunate sideaffect we would rather of not had, as we did (hopefuly stil do) consider bob to be friends, but what happens next happens..and we will just enjoy what the majority of sa play this game for..pvp and plenty of it.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:25:00 -
[107]
/me locks around with big eyes =) Wh0t? Has this happend thrue the night! What have i missed...!
Well time to send my haulers back home =)
Here we go again Sa, 0)
Lets have some fun everybody =)
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:28:00 -
[108]
i thought auya kept sayign they were no involved in this war and were not helping fix? so why do you need to come back home at all...or was those claims a falsehood?
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Sapater
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:35:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Sapater on 31/01/2006 07:35:48
You know the real funny part in all this....
SA have claimed superiority in this war the whole time. They either invited or accepted the "help" of other corps/alliance to fight FIX.
But now, when FIX ...finally asks for help from their friends, you see SA literally WHINING on the forums about it. They know whats going to happen and they know they are going to be at the bottom of it.
All I have to say is wow SA. You guys are making yourselves look like children for whining and btiching about BoB joining the fray...NOT on your side of things. If this is how you act, then maybe you deserve to go down in flames for nothing else than trying to make yourselves look to be the superior but in the end, actually getting the big part of the boot in the rear.
I have no stake in this war either way. But the crying and whining by SA here is just pathetic. The least you can do is take it like men, not children.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:36:00 -
[110]
Are you guys really that slow, or are you just trying to imply crap all the time. They left the south so that the ceasefire would go smoothly, most likely at the request of FIX. Now that there is no NAP or ceasefire, theres no problem with them coming back and doing what they want for fun, which would be shooting things in the south where they are comfortable.
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Thrak
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:42:00 -
[111]
/me runs up and down the Eve universe killing things.
Dammit, can't you hostiles stay in one place?
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ILIKEBIGBUTTS ANDICANNOT
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:46:00 -
[112]
Rumor has it -LV- and BoB's relations have been straigned. That combined with close ties to SA, well, you can sum it up.
To the G guy, for there is no north vs south, you seem to not notice your ctions for the past 3 months.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:47:00 -
[113]
Originally by: dantes inferno
i thought auya kept sayign they were no involved in this war and were not helping fix? so why do you need to come back home at all...or was those claims a falsehood?
During the hole war we been doing what we been doing for months dantes.
Offcurse we have shoot at both u and huzza and so on. but as said we always do that, we are only blue to fix and bob.
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Now? Well thats a diffrent story =)
Lets have fun and smack free. It is just a game :P
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:49:00 -
[114]
WHINING? your just mad we are not someones SLAVE and have the balls to finish what we start. past all the smack it comes down to WE ARE GOING TO KEEP KILLING ALL FIXIES NO MATTER WHO THEIR DADDY IS.
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ILIKEBIGBUTTS ANDICANNOT
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Posted - 2006.01.31 07:54:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Randay
This whole thing is actually turning out to be interesting, I like how Orc A is pretty much single handedly gonna turn all of eve against SA now, with his supreme diplomatic skillz0rs.
bob has a lot less friends than they think they do
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:01:00 -
[116]
we tbh if ex-fixies wanna help or not thats fine i careless(seems others do maybe).... just like im sure FIX or anyone else hostile to SA wouldnt care IF KAOS or other old Stainers sided/rally with SA against SA enemys that need to be dealt with right? owell i notice alot of these topics have been replied to on the other like 3 posts SA/FIX ;p
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:03:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Yrana
Originally by: HellsRazor
WHINING? your just mad we are not someones SLAVE and have the balls to finish what we start. past all the smack it comes down to WE ARE GOING TO KEEP KILLING ALL FIXIES NO MATTER WHO THEIR DADDY IS.
Then get off the forums and get IN a ship. Otherwise, stfu.
I AM in my nice FAT system got shipment of quafe and dancers in, imma have a party and trash it like a Rock Star in a hotel room.
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aradakran
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:14:00 -
[118]
Well, Sounds like it's going to be a big ol bad ass war.
Imma fly down to fat with my camcorder!
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:22:00 -
[119]
I think all the SA chaps need to stop talking like their the bell of the ball around here. The more **** you keep talking the harder it is going to be for your leaders to clean up after.
All this talk about how great SA is, is nothing more then a bunch of fresh meat who joined eve and heard stories about SA way back in the day when eve itself was still young, and trying to posture themselves into something they know nothing about. Since then, the Alliances of eve are alot different and SA isnt the mucho power house it "used" to be.
Just take a word of advice
Sit down and wait for Molle to tell you how this is going to happen
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
AizanDaHumble
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:24:00 -
[120]
To FiX:
You had/have billions of assets in FAT. We were allowing you to pull it out as part of the ceasefire terms.
By doing that we dropped our upper hand in this conflict, showing you we are to be reasoned with.
We pulled all our forces back from Q. And partially from CATCH.
You know our terms was not unfair, as we were/still are, the conqueror and the winning side of this conflict.
Our terms were rather humble, and very acceptable. YOU could have ended it all by accepting them.
If you are as you say only the leet force left, why wont you [FIX / Triad] fight us [SA/HUZZAH] alone?
To BoB:
You know all about our reasons for doing this. If you were in our seat what would you do when your enemy laugh in your face and spit on your terms for surrender? Would you taken your hat in your hand and said: "its all good?".
Take a look at your neighbour, a close look. If you continue to stay out of this conflict, do you think they're pipe would sounded as*****y as now?
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Kastar
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:26:00 -
[121]
I'll start being nice
- Good luck to SA, you'll need it
- Cudo's to BoB for helping out friends and respecting relationships
- Respect to FIX because of very long history of stability and for keeping lowprofile on the boards
Godspeed to all involved, rest in pieces
Kas
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:26:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Doal
Actually, Orc A, Carbide decided to leave FIX before this latest war broke out. We actually stayed longer to help FIX out. As to your claims that our pilots broke the NAP first, you've never provided names nor proof. You also never alerted Carbide leadership of the supposed breach of the NAP by Carbide. Frankly, I think you pretended to NAP us so you could get a few more ganks on indies full of loot.
Seems you're the one who needs to get a clue.
You were still helping FIX. You cleared our camp in 9CG while SA were sieging/being in FAT. A FIX frig gang came to the rescue of 3 CI haulers the same night. All of this happened before SA put you back to 0/-10 afaik.
Now, if your gang had come from empire to make safe passage for your own members, I wouldn't have thought much of this, but your gang came from the southern part of Q. This was a week or more after CI "officially" left the FIX iga.
p - l - u - r
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Wierd Beard
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:28:00 -
[123]
Heres the bone kids...
It's one thing for two fighting dogs to call it quits for a while (i.e. a ceasefire). It's a whole 'nother ball of wax when you start slinging around words like surrender and travel rights.
FIX admitted we were bloodied, but we never offered to bow down. That just ain't gonna happen.
If our neighbors don't like you either...well I'll buy 'em a beer when all is said and done.
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Kattie Jay
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:30:00 -
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It is SOOO nice to see SA squirming and whinging about who started the war and whoÆs fault it is. Most of us really donÆt give a s***, we just want to shoot you! and your lapdogs Huzzah Federation.
Good luck to everyone involved!
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:47:00 -
[125]
IMO, nothing official:
FIX - Stain
First war: was at the same time BoB was hostile to FIX.
Second war: Without any notice, FIX launch a surprise attack on Catch region, an expansion war to take the Catch region. We respond to that, the tide turns, and as the fight is now taken into Querious instead of Catch, BoB steps in an force a NAP.
Third 'war': The Catch region is subject to an internal war, yet is somehow 'given' to FIX, in such a bold move that it makes the Khanid theft of the amarr titan look like a joke. But FIX are allowed to keep Catch to keep friendly relations in the south.
Fourth war: Without any diplomatic talks what so ever, FIX sets SA to 0.0. This means KOS. Especially as FIX and SA share the 'Catch corridor', where FIX start shooting SA. This is the same as declaring war. SA responds and roll over FIX, and as we reach a situation where it's likely that Querious will fall too, BoB force a Ceasefire.
This Ceasefire is immediately broken by FIX.
After a few hours a new ceasefire is in effect. For some reason FIX pilots puts up bubbles in the catch corridor, in an area they were supposed to have left already.
FIX then start to mobilise their forces in the 9cg system, which BoB warns them of here.
As the terms of surrender are expected to be agreed upon, FIX rejects them.
Some ppl seem to think this war is about Catch region. It is not. It is about FIX continued offending of us. They need to pay the price for their attitudes and actions. An end to the war must reflect this and the more or less total defeat suffered by FIX on the battlefield.
Huzzah etc.
First off, they offered support, not asked by us.
Second, all entities who has ever been in war know that you can totally beat your enemies, but not hold both their and your old region. Guess what HF is for?
HF has in many ways proved themselfs where FIX has failed completely. As such, the attitude vs HF from outside entities can only be described as 'disgraceful'.
BoB - Stain.
AFAIK, no stain pilot has ever fired a shot on BoB.
We have been friendly with EVOL since the very first days of EVE. This includes joint military ops, backing them in all ways possible, letting them use our space as temporary base of operation (including providing equipment), as well as them NPCing in our space.
Unfortunately we've not had the time to work as close with RKK and BNC, due to their north campaigns and little inter-action in the south, but I fail to see how we in any way has offended them/not been good a good ally.
It should be clear to anyone neutral that FIX is the offender and SA the party with a 'rightous cause' in the FIX-SA conflict. With FIX facing extintion, it should IMO be up to anyone that see it fit that FIX are allowed to survive in the Querious region to make sure that FIX accepts terms that is (more than) justified given the reasons for this war and the situation on the battlefield.
Hence, if BoB(or someone else) decide to go in blazing against us, I will feel sad and shocked about loosing a friend we've been backing since the beginning and I'll fail to see their reasons. But so be it.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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Kujin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 08:57:00 -
[126]
w0000t !!!!
finally there comes the time to sort out some unfinished biz i had with SA for the last 2 years ...
and now it will be in an official way ....
to SA : good luck to you, you¦ll need it ...
to huzzah : alhough i wanted to hate you, coz you napped with SA, i really have to say big Kudos to you for keeping it smack free in local and on boards...
to Dantes : i lub you and your wired theories of us helping bla bla bla....now you have it official that we WILL help, and hopefully you can sleep better at nights
to all the MASS guys that replied here : bring it on the battlefield....99% of the stuff you posted here concerning FIX and SA history is pure and simple propaganda, i guarantee that the old SA pilots and FIX pilots know how it happened, no need to discuss this here, coz in the end it counts what you wil bring on the battlefield, and it nearly noojne gives a **** how it happened,.. you had to experience that time ( uhh bad english ) to know what was happening...
to BOB : big Kudos to you, no matter what people say about you on the forums, you guys are one of the most respected and feared guys in EvE ( and those who "hate" you don¦t have the balls to admit that they admire you )
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Brazzahrn Stroh
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:01:00 -
[127]
Oh, crap. ~2 hours of hauling ships to the north for nothing. I'm coming home
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rig0r
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:25:00 -
[128]
omg SA make such juicy targets \o/
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:28:00 -
[129]
Orc A,
Still awaiting official response as you seem to be the "Official".
So, reply when it suits you.
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Xantina
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:36:00 -
[130]
Originally by: dalman
It should be clear to anyone neutral that FIX is the offender and SA the party with a 'rightous cause' in the FIX-SA conflict. With FIX facing extintion, it should IMO be up to anyone that see it fit that FIX are allowed to survive in the Querious region to make sure that FIX accepts terms that is (more than) justified given the reasons for this war and the situation on the battlefield.
Rumours of FIX's death have been greatly exaggerated
Your "terms" amounted to FIX giving you for free what would take a long a costly war to conquer. Obviously we're not going to give away freebies so if you covet Querious bring lots of ships.
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:45:00 -
[131]
to Sir Molle, Orc A is quite busy in RL at the moment an is probably tired after this ****storm, Scaertan would also be a good contact at the moment, or Gloria Khan.
I can tell this about this war was when they started attacking us in the pipe, which they did cause SA waited to be engaged after being but to .0 I was supprised, very since it seemed the relations were better than in SE and it was cause FIX did help us out against G/Iron, pretty much the only ones that did. So ppl were friendly in local etc etc. Then all of a sudden things changed and this is the result. And believe me, FIX had no interest in talking that over, they even closed convo on the diplomats.
FIX broke of negotiations after the war and saying you arent loosing is just bull. Having the FIX alt corps helping is normal but getting one of the biggest pvp force in game into the equation is pushing it. Its like we would go and get G/Iron on our side. Things are escalating way too fast atm so would SA ppl plz try not to smack the forumz if possible. The "ceasefire" was a shock to all SA so ppl are angry, no need to overreact to that, its pretty normal considering past NAPs with FIX and the results.
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Colje
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:45:00 -
[132]
Originally by: SirMolle
Orc A,
Still awaiting official response as you seem to be the "Official".
So, reply when it suits you.
SirMolle its the time difference, he'll respond when he wakes up.
Good luck to everyone :=)
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Gareitonis
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:45:00 -
[133]
See you on the battlefield SA
Mama i'm coming home !
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Sapater
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:53:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Sapater on 31/01/2006 09:53:27
Originally by: IcedBach Jr
but getting one of the biggest pvp force in game into the equation is pushing it.
Well, seems you're at a bit of a disadvantage then.
SA keeps bringing up why BoB is getting involved. Well, I ask you...why not? Obviously you ****ed them off and now you are going to feel their wrath. Don't whine about it now. Maybe you guys should have thought about it at an earlier time.
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AizanDaHumble
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:58:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Sapater
Don't whine about it now. Maybe you guys should have thought about it at an earlier time.
Please separate between whining and asking for answers.
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:58:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Sapater
Edited by: Sapater on 31/01/2006 09:53:27
Originally by: IcedBach Jr
but getting one of the biggest pvp force in game into the equation is pushing it.
Well, seems you're at a bit of a disadvantage then.
SA keeps bringing up why BoB is getting involved. Well, I ask you...why not? Obviously you ****ed them off and now you are going to feel their wrath. Don't whine about it now. Maybe you guys should have thought about it at an earlier time.
Good Sir Sapater, we are SA and have our honour, hence we are not whining and are not afraid. However we have alot of x-corp mates and friends in BOB and therefore we dont really want to fight em do we apart from other reasons. We unfortunately have quite a few smackers against us too in BOB it seems according to this thread so who knows what happens.
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:00:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Xantina
Originally by: dalman
It should be clear to anyone neutral that FIX is the offender and SA the party with a 'rightous cause' in the FIX-SA conflict. With FIX facing extintion, it should IMO be up to anyone that see it fit that FIX are allowed to survive in the Querious region to make sure that FIX accepts terms that is (more than) justified given the reasons for this war and the situation on the battlefield.
Rumours of FIX's death have been greatly exaggerated
Your "terms" amounted to FIX giving you for free what would take a long a costly war to conquer. Obviously we're not going to give away freebies so if you covet Querious bring lots of ships.
Just personal opinion again;
The military situation on the battlefield is that SA has been roaming Querious at will in recent weeks. But of course, to take your stations there would take months of work, no denying of that.
Second, I don't know if anyone in SA 'covet Querious'. Personally I don't give a **** about it. And as said in my previous post, it is 'impossible' to hold conquered land, you need someone else to fill it. But what I do know is that your attitude and actions towards us are totally un-acceptable, and that SA pilots covets your extintion for it.
As such, those 'terms' should rather be interpreted as symbolic and not for hasted conclusions of what will happen, and as such they are indeed more than justified for the reasons already described.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:07:00 -
[138]
Quote:
It should be clear to anyone neutral that FIX is the offender and SA the party with a 'rightous cause' in the FIX-SA conflict.
And we should care why exactly ?
BoB has an interest in this, and as both Molle and Dianabolic (and Deathwing in his usual concise manner) have told everyone in this thread it is only us that decide in which way it is best served.
So, Molle asked a question. I suggest hard thinking would be in order. Is there another reason for this posturing other then ego and placating overeager members that lack experience by demanding silly terms ?
My guess is we aren't interested in who started or who won. We are interested in having it stop right here and right now, wihtout futher sillyness. I severely doubt we care much whom it is that doesn't comply with that wish, other then to determine where to send our fleets in order to annihilate said party.
Oh and Huzzah members shouldn't challenge people they can't handle here, k ?
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:13:00 -
[139]
Hmm, Southern treaty for the win...
Another southern entity attacks the other etc..
I guess that doesnt interest BOB.
And dont go pulling the SA attacked SE, that was internal and you know it.
Im out, no more forum post for now, so dont worry.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:14:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Yrana
Originally by: HellsRazor
WHINING? your just mad we are not someones SLAVE and have the balls to finish what we start. past all the smack it comes down to WE ARE GOING TO KEEP KILLING ALL FIXIES NO MATTER WHO THEIR DADDY IS.
Then get off the forums and get IN a ship. Otherwise, stfu.
That guy helped kill 42 Fix bs's, 8 hac's and a ton of smaller ships in the past 2 months.
How many SA did you help kill in your noobcorp, oh brave alt character?
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:28:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Quote:
It should be clear to anyone neutral that FIX is the offender and SA the party with a 'rightous cause' in the FIX-SA conflict.
And we should care why exactly ?
BoB has an interest in this, and as both Molle and Dianabolic (and Deathwing in his usual concise manner) have told everyone in this thread it is only us that decide in which way it is best served.
So, Molle asked a question. I suggest hard thinking would be in order. Is there another reason for this posturing other then ego and placating overeager members that lack experience by demanding silly terms ?
My guess is we aren't interested in who started or who won. We are interested in having it stop right here and right now, wihtout futher sillyness. I severely doubt we care much whom it is that doesn't comply with that wish, other then to determine where to send our fleets in order to annihilate said party.
Oh and Huzzah members shouldn't challenge people they can't handle here, k ?
Why should you care? - Because this conflict is between two parties that have been longstanding friends to you. To simply try to stamp a deal that does not take into account the reasons for the conflict is a much too simple and short-term action that will rather just cause grievance and not help establish a long term solution.
Of course BoB has an interest in this. As the conflict is on your doorstep. Needless to say you want a stable ally in Querious. To expect otherwise would be foolish, and you can be assured that when we responded to FIX's aggressions towards us we all knew deep inside that you would step in as soon as the future of Querious was jeopardized, just like you did last time.
Indeed, I'm very upset about hasted actions without reasoning and discussion in this. Are there other reasons than ego? Probably not, and I'm certainly not happy with the flaming/trolling/unreasonable posts conducted. But I must also say that I'm unhappy with the way Dianabolic and Deathwing express themself (unlike other BoB leaders); Cause no matter what authority they have and ability to military back up their words, their wording only puts fuel on the fire instead of encourage diplomatic solutions.
And Rod, your remark about Huzzah is a bit un-necessary I think (only working to belittle them and cause anger), cause if you browse around here on the forums FIX seems to generally be very happy with their conduct in local etc, and their president has done nothing but post thought-through and reasonable.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:33:00 -
[142]
Dianabolic spoke out of place and has been reprimanded for it.
The only things you should take as gospel from BoB in this thread are from Molle, Galavet or Blacklight.
BoB does allow for all members to discuss anything on the boards but I would hope that they would consider their words very carefully and allow our CEO's to make the decisions.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:43:00 -
[143]
Finally, reason comes to after 5 pages of who did what to whom.
How about we keep that going eh?
The Collective
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Taurequis
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:47:00 -
[144]
Three groups of wound up warriors with plenty of guns.
I'm surprised it only took 5 pages.
Taurequis
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:54:00 -
[145]
Howdy,
To SA - If you cannot post like dalman can post, then shut it. Every time you post this dribble, a baby panda dies.
To FIX - It has been fun, I respectfully ask that you try not to bait the people I refer to in my first point above.
To BoB - Orc A is the official SA diplomat for inter alliance dicussions. As has been previously noted, his RL issues are currently taking up an extended amount of time but rest assured, he will be able to respond as soon as orcily possible. If you wish to escalate this beyond Orc, you can contact 'SCOOTER 1' via eve mail (he has a wonderful policy of not browsing these forums anymore due to the amount of trollop we have to wade through to find the posts that really matter).
Cheers
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:20:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Avon on 31/01/2006 11:21:51
My two boys were fighting over a Nintendo DS last night. One was playing it, the other wanted it.
I asked them to stop.
I told them to stop.
Then I took the DS away and sent them to bed.
What they should have done is think carefully about the consequences of their actions.
In the end they were both deprived of what they wanted.
Selfish greed and disrespect are not qualities I expect to see in my children.
BTW.
Sonic Rush DS is great. I'm almost glad my gfx card killed itself, otherwise I would have never played it.
Edit: Sorry, that was clearly completely off topic and totally unrelated in any way to the events being discussed here. Obviously.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:22:00 -
[147]
Can a mod move this post to the general forums or somewhere else that it fits in ?
I mean, sensible argument can clearly not be acceptable in this here section can it ?
Oh and Dalman, you are right, Huzzah have largely been behaving nicely in this thread. Actually, they've more or less stayed out of it so far even now I read back more carefully. Apology offered and personal standing reset to +1 then , I must have been imagining things.
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:28:00 -
[148]
werent SA's ceasefire terms a bit stupid ?
You wanted Free travel/docking/npc/mining rights.
Anyways, we were never involeved in this war, we did anhilate anything that traveled the catch pipe, but we were doing that before the war so i dont see how we are going out of our way to help fix. Maybe this time around things will be different.
Orc A, mail me when you get a new thorax :P i want a rematch :)
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Mag's
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:29:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 31/01/2006 11:21:51
My two boys were fighting over a Nintendo DS last night. One was playing it, the other wanted it.
I asked them to stop.
I told them to stop.
Then I took the DS away and sent them to bed.
What they should have done is think carefully about the consequences of their actions.
In the end they were both deprived of what they wanted.
Selfish greed and disrespect are not qualities I expect to see in my children.
BTW.
Sonic Rush DS is great. I'm almost glad my gfx card killed itself, otherwise I would have never played it.
Edit: Sorry, that was clearly completely off topic and totally unrelated in any way to the events being discussed here. Obviously.
I think you need sending to bed for buying them a DS.
But as has been posted SA and FIX peeps need to hold back on the smack, it helps noone.
Let the diplo's sort this out.
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Josiah Bleak
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:32:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Oh and Dalman, you are right, Huzzah have largely been behaving nicely in this thread. Actually, they've more or less stayed out of it so far even now I read back more carefully. Apology offered and personal standing reset to +1 then , I must have been imagining things.
Thanks for this and apology accepted ;)
Only Hans Roaming speaks for the Huzzah Federation. Good luck to all the dipomats involved in sorting this out. We're purposefully not a large alliance but we fight hard and try to make a good account of ourselves in all matters: pvp, business or diplomacy. Both Fix and SA will attest to this and I think BoB too will do so once they know us better.
In the meantime, I should mention all Huzzah members, except Hans are not encouraged to write in this thread.
Good luck and respect to all.
Josiah Bleak.
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:36:00 -
[151]
I'd personally like to know where BoB get off on comparing themselves, SA & FIX to a father with 2 kids?
Not meant to be a flame and all, but that just don't hold water guys
The Collective
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Andarvi
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:38:00 -
[152]
Damn I wish I was still in Fix right now.. sounds a fun place to be.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:44:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Mag's
I think you need sending to bed for buying them a DS.
Well, that is another lesson right there...
My oldest son used to have a Gameboy Advance SP.
He loved it.
He had lots of games for it, mostly Sonic games (he is a big fan).
As time past it slowly degraded, and finally died.
He wanted it reborn. He wanted it replaced, so it could re-live its glory days.
I agreed that this was a good idea™, and so carefully considered the options.
I could buy something that was obviously different, something cutting edge, like maybe a PSP, but I knew deep down that wouldn't wash with him.
No, what was needed was a system that was newer with a bigger potential, but was still compatible with the old games; if not it would never be his Nintendo reborn, it would just be a different console to replace what had gone before.
Of course, this is even more wildly off topic than my previous post - I am sure there is no connection between hand held consoles and Eve alliances.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:53:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
-- snip --
Rod, in one word.
Shut up.
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Mag's
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:55:00 -
[155]
Well we only have girls, 3 to be exact.
The oldest only want to MSN.
The middle one only wants to play either PS2 games or PC games (she loves the DC mod for BF1942)
And the little one, well, she wants to do it all and more and often does.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:04:00 -
[156]
Laythun turns to his leiutenant
'prepare a transmission and send it immediately over galnet'
the unnamed leiutenant turns to the comms station, 'were ready to transmit sir' begin transmission'
so it seems there'll be lot more traffic through stain then...
0.o i should get ready in the CF 'hole'...
This may sound bizzare...but CF and FIX may need positive standing to each other"!ú!?1ú! as we are both 'at war/hostile' to SA and both dislike there pointlessly arrogant standing to the south.
Laythun dismisses the subordinate with a bellow from his desk...
'seems that things in stain will require attention, but i think we have enough time for SNU first'
See Me!
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Incinate
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:06:00 -
[157]
Originally by: corporal hicks
Wow guess our trip north is been cut short..back to killing SA ahh well.
Excellent...
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Mystic Mansions
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:18:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Orc A
As for the situation if Fix during this - We braught fix to thier knees and they chose to grab on to thier Big brothers rather then admitting defeat.
So, the SA will do what they need to do right now... but in the future, i can promise you that Fix WILL pay for it's arrogance, be it by our hands, or the hands of the ones who see our cause is just.
Good day.
Orc A, It is quite clear that you have been planning this movement against Fix for many months. So don't start spouting crap about being set to 0.0. Your infestation of spies in fix from the very offset is not something that you can have in place in days, it takes a long time to prepare everything you have done with your allies.
What I will say is that your alliance has no honour or heart. You have continuously used underhanded diplomacy, propaganda and dubious ingame mechanics/bugs to further your goals.
btw, I'd be interested what kind of rl place sprouts people like you. Gotta be some oppressive, tyranical, dictatorship in the third world right?
Fix and others can see through you. Your attempted oppression, greed and back-stabbing will not be tolerated. I am however impressed with your ability to deceive. Good luck, you're going to need it. We will not stop until the complete and final destruction of you and your alliance. You will not take our space, land, or anything else. Fix lives in a free universe not a stain one. Live to know this.
Good day.
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:21:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Laythun
Laythun turns to his leiutenant
'prepare a transmission and send it immediately over galnet'
the unnamed leiutenant turns to the comms station, 'were ready to transmit sir' begin transmission'
so it seems there'll be lot more traffic through stain then...
0.o i should get ready in the CF 'hole'...
This may sound bizzare...but CF and FIX may need positive standing to each other"!ú!?1ú! as we are both 'at war/hostile' to SA and both dislike there pointlessly arrogant standing to the south.
Laythun dismisses the subordinate with a bellow from his desk...
'seems that things in stain will require attention, but i think we have enough time for SNU first'
What pointless arrogant standings?
We actually have every major faction in the south at positive standings except for Sansha, FIX and possibly soon BoB.
Before you start about something you so obviously know nothing about, you could inform yourself here
The Collective
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:23:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Mystic Mansions
Originally by: Orc A
As for the situation if Fix during this - We braught fix to thier knees and they chose to grab on to thier Big brothers rather then admitting defeat.
So, the SA will do what they need to do right now... but in the future, i can promise you that Fix WILL pay for it's arrogance, be it by our hands, or the hands of the ones who see our cause is just.
Good day.
Orc A, It is quite clear that you have been planning this movement against Fix for many months. So don't start spouting crap about being set to 0.0. Your infestation of spies in fix from the very offset is not something that you can have in place in days, it takes a long time to prepare everything you have done with your allies.
What I will say is that your alliance has no honour or heart. You have continuously used underhanded diplomacy, propaganda and dubious ingame mechanics/bugs to further your goals.
btw, I'd be interested what kind of rl place sprouts people like you. Gotta be some oppressive, tyranical, dictatorship in the third world right?
Fix and others can see through you. Your attempted oppression, greed and back-stabbing will not be tolerated. I am however impressed with your ability to deceive. Good luck, you're going to need it. We will not stop until the complete and final destruction of you and your alliance. You will not take our space, land, or anything else. Fix lives in a free universe not a stain one. Live to know this.
Good day.
Leave RL at the login screen dude, it has no place here.
The Collective
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:25:00 -
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Continued from above.
However the membership feels that by further imposing humiliating terms on FIX who earned the respect to be treated graciously in their defeat in Catch was not honourable. To continue to push those terms against a unified south and west consisting of allies that want to see an end to the conflict and in fact FIX in Querilous and Catch in SA + Allies hands is to throw away a hard fought victory for no reason other than imposing unreasonable terms on FIX. Knowing the above the membership and the President urges the leadership of our ally SA to negotiate with FIX to in fact agree to the original terms and after discussion last night with various factions it is my belief that third parties in this conflict wish that to be the resolution also.
President
Huzzah Federation
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:25:00 -
[162]
Edited by: Hans Roaming on 31/01/2006 13:38:12
Ok youÆll have to excuse me as I played catch up after being away Saturday night (social life 4tw).
An excellent summery of the events was done by Draahk Chimera and I will copy them here for the readers convenience.
ôAn SA pilot flew in FIX space, possibly shot at a FIX. I have seen no such killmail but on the other hand im not in FIX.
A few FIX shot a SA. I have seen the mail.
FIX set SA neutral (=enemy in 0.0). SA diplomat contacts FIX and say: "Wassup?". FIX say: "You shot at us". SA say: "Im sorry if that is true. Are you sure you want us as enemies tho?". FIX say: "Yes".
SA team up with Huzzah. Huzzah takes V2- while FIX send a fleet to 9RQ. SA form fleet behind FIX and meet them in LGK. FIX fleet goes home in eggs. Later same night SA takes 5-N. FIX send new fleet to V2- SA/Huzzah goes there too, FIX goes home in eggs.
FIX start camping V-3 and GE- and send cruiser/frig gangs to Stain. Camps get busted over and over and frig/cruiser gangs never makes it past MB40. FIX takes 5-N back.
SA invade FIX with a 100-man gang while Huzzah takes 5-N. Extreme lag makes an attempt to jump into FIX 20 bubbles impossible and fleet logs off in FIX space.
SA roams FIX space att will camping down major systems FAT, 9CG and H74. Slowly it eveolves into a battle for FAT as more and more SA find their way there and SA anchor a pos. KAOS comes to join SA in FAT but leaves after about 1+ week. Huzzah comes to join SA in FAT.
A very long and boring pos war drags into weeks in FAT. Asya and Xile start attacking SA/Huzzah and BoB start attacking Huzzah. FoFF leave FIX and turn off their 2 pos sovereignty claiming leaving SA with sovereignty next DT. SA/Huzzah takes FAT.
BoB contact SA and gives ultimatum: Give FIX chance to surrender or we ally with FIX. SA/Huzzah naps FIX. SA gives FIX terms of surrender. FIX say: "F U" and proceeds with making demands on SA instead. SA continues war.ö
Now as I was not around at the time the terms were negotiated I learned fully of the situation last night about the terms after the war had been reactivated. My understanding was that the terms agreed upon was that SA + Huzzah would have Catch and FIX would not fly into that space. FIX would have Querilous and that SA + Huzzah would not enter into that domain. In addition FIX would withdraw their POS from Catch and also their considerable assets from FAT.
However it appears that after the fact further terms were asked of FIX in that the allies have rights to fly, NPC mine in Querilous and also that hey were not to use freighters to move their assets (including multiple POS) from FAT. Those are the terms that FIX did not understandably want to comply with. The call went out that the war was back on and you have the current escalation and Huzzah naturally backed itÆs ally at the time we hear that FIX broke the terms etc, since then after communicating with all parties I forwarded the facts to the Huzzah membership and post their response below.
Up until this point the membership have been with SA 100% as they felt that FIX have been the aggressor with the ex fix pirates being supported by FIX and attacking SA in the pipe as well as the fact that FIX fleets were invading SA space the very night we entered the conflict and took V2-VC2. The victory secured against FIX in Catch was hard fought on both sides and in fact has been some of the best times the Huzzah membership has had in Eve. Strong bonds have been formed between Huzzah and SA and in fact when talks broke down I was in a gang heading to Western Stain in order to help SA forces fight SE. I would also like to point out that in fact NRG were dismantling the POS they had in 5-n and Huzzah gave them passage to take their POS away in good faith even after hostilities were resumed.
Continued below....
President
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 31/01/2006 13:39:18
Sounds like typical 0.0 bullcrap politics to me Hans to be bluntly honest. Asking for mining/npcing and travel rights in another alliances space and you expect them to bend over and take it?
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:41:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Taz Devlin
Originally by: Laythun
Laythun turns to his leiutenant
'prepare a transmission and send it immediately over galnet'
the unnamed leiutenant turns to the comms station, 'were ready to transmit sir' begin transmission'
so it seems there'll be lot more traffic through stain then...
0.o i should get ready in the CF 'hole'...
This may sound bizzare...but CF and FIX may need positive standing to each other"!ú!?1ú! as we are both 'at war/hostile' to SA and both dislike there pointlessly arrogant standing to the south.
Laythun dismisses the subordinate with a bellow from his desk...
'seems that things in stain will require attention, but i think we have enough time for SNU first'
What pointless arrogant standings?
We actually have every major faction in the south at positive standings except for Sansha, FIX and possibly soon BoB.
Before you start about something you so obviously know nothing about, you could inform yourself here
arrogant stand point...a point of stance that is arrogant...that help little one??
are you ok now? shall i get you a dictionary?? a cup of milk??
See Me!
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Saal Iverson
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:52:00 -
[165]
asuya and co have been doing th esame thing for the past 6 months. check the triad boards for SA killmails for ht epast 6 months. long before your "vowing to whipe fix off the face of eve" started up.
get ye head out of your backside for long enough to hear someone other then yourself speak. And you would be aware of that. unfortunatly SA seem to be blind to this also Mr Hans, so i got some pity for you (being misguided at all)
but but if you want to whipe fix of out totally. like you guys planned to do in the first place. why you listening to what anyone else has to so.
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:54:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Taz Devlin
Originally by: Laythun
Laythun turns to his leiutenant
'prepare a transmission and send it immediately over galnet'
the unnamed leiutenant turns to the comms station, 'were ready to transmit sir' begin transmission'
so it seems there'll be lot more traffic through stain then...
0.o i should get ready in the CF 'hole'...
This may sound bizzare...but CF and FIX may need positive standing to each other"!ú!?1ú! as we are both 'at war/hostile' to SA and both dislike there pointlessly arrogant standing to the south.
Laythun dismisses the subordinate with a bellow from his desk...
'seems that things in stain will require attention, but i think we have enough time for SNU first'
What pointless arrogant standings?
We actually have every major faction in the south at positive standings except for Sansha, FIX and possibly soon BoB.
Before you start about something you so obviously know nothing about, you could inform yourself here
arrogant stand point...a point of stance that is arrogant...that help little one??
are you ok now? shall i get you a dictionary?? a cup of milk??
The dictionary you can keep, I'll take the milk and cookies tho.
Oh... and your asumption that everyone can make a clear distinction between being "pointlessly arrogant" and having "pointlessly arrogant standings" puts your sorry ass right smack in the first group.
The Collective
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:57:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Taz Devlin
Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Taz Devlin
Originally by: Laythun
Laythun turns to his leiutenant
'prepare a transmission and send it immediately over galnet'
the unnamed leiutenant turns to the comms station, 'were ready to transmit sir' begin transmission'
so it seems there'll be lot more traffic through stain then...
0.o i should get ready in the CF 'hole'...
This may sound bizzare...but CF and FIX may need positive standing to each other"!ú!?1ú! as we are both 'at war/hostile' to SA and both dislike there pointlessly arrogant standing to the south.
Laythun dismisses the subordinate with a bellow from his desk...
'seems that things in stain will require attention, but i think we have enough time for SNU first'
What pointless arrogant standings?
We actually have every major faction in the south at positive standings except for Sansha, FIX and possibly soon BoB.
Before you start about something you so obviously know nothing about, you could inform yourself here
arrogant stand point...a point of stance that is arrogant...that help little one??
are you ok now? shall i get you a dictionary?? a cup of milk??
The dictionary you can keep, I'll take the milk and cookies tho.
Oh... and your asumption that everyone can make a clear distinction between being "pointlessly arrogant" and having "pointlessly arrogant standings" puts your sorry ass right smack in the first group.
hehe assuming that someone that is correcting my english can speak it and understand it isnt arrogant son.
dnt try correct and get it wrong mmkay?
See Me!
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voodoo
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:04:00 -
[168]
hmmm why read a post lets just all post a reply
heres mine
"let me mine my veldspar ffs"
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B03S
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:16:00 -
[169]
Man, everybody here seems to take the RPG side of EVE a little to serious. 
It's a fricking game 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:18:00 -
[170]
It saddens me to see three of the organisations that I most respect in EVE (SA/MASS/Trigger - BoB/Evol/Sir Molle - Huzzah/Hans)about to square off against each other.
All three of these entities are filled with pilots I admire and I think it is ridiculous that some arrangement cannot be reached even at this stage.
It is a time for cool heads and diplomats - not forum *****s trying to score points off each other.
I sincerely hope that some resolution can be found...
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:21:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Hardin
It saddens me to see three of the organisations that I most respect in EVE (SA/MASS/Trigger - BoB/Evol/Sir Molle - Huzzah/Hans)about to square off against each other.
All three of these entities are filled with pilots I admire and I think it is ridiculous that some arrangement cannot be reached even at this stage.
It is a time for cool heads and diplomats - not forum *****s trying to score points off each other.
I sincerely hope that some resolution can be found...
Just ignore the forums, it's a load of old *******s anyway.
Until you see a post from Molle, Galavet or myself saying otherwise all of the above is just the usual chest beating from the hotheads that like to play on the forums.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Sheppard
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:21:00 -
[172]
Looks like its time to come out of semi-retirement.
Man if you just said in your terms.
" We take Catch back and Fix are to have no access "
Then all this crap would of been finished you would of won and it would of been acknowleged as a very good victory. (Might of even made boosted you rep a bit.)
But Nevermind
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:27:00 -
[173]
Hans, that was a damn good post and deserving of some respect (obviously that is my personal view)
It is nice to see a little honesty replace the normal posturing we see here.
Kudos to you.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:31:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Taz Devlin
Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Taz Devlin
Originally by: Laythun
Laythun turns to his leiutenant
'prepare a transmission and send it immediately over galnet'
the unnamed leiutenant turns to the comms station, 'were ready to transmit sir' begin transmission'
so it seems there'll be lot more traffic through stain then...
0.o i should get ready in the CF 'hole'...
This may sound bizzare...but CF and FIX may need positive standing to each other"!ú!?1ú! as we are both 'at war/hostile' to SA and both dislike there pointlessly arrogant standing to the south.
Laythun dismisses the subordinate with a bellow from his desk...
'seems that things in stain will require attention, but i think we have enough time for SNU first'
What pointless arrogant standings?
We actually have every major faction in the south at positive standings except for Sansha, FIX and possibly soon BoB.
Before you start about something you so obviously know nothing about, you could inform yourself here
arrogant stand point...a point of stance that is arrogant...that help little one??
are you ok now? shall i get you a dictionary?? a cup of milk??
The dictionary you can keep, I'll take the milk and cookies tho.
Oh... and your asumption that everyone can make a clear distinction between being "pointlessly arrogant" and having "pointlessly arrogant standings" puts your sorry ass right smack in the first group.
hehe assuming that someone that is correcting my english can speak it and understand it isnt arrogant son.
dnt try correct and get it wrong mmkay?
"isnt" should be either "is not" or "isn't"
"dnt" should be either "do not" or "don't"
I may not be the very best at english, I do apologize for that, my excuse is I'm Icelandic and I learned english watching alot of Tom & Jerry, what's yours?
And do not call me son again you patronizing sob, allright?
You earn that right by putting me in a pod, and you sir, have not.
The Collective
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:19:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Taz Devlin
"isnt" should be either "is not" or "isn't"
"dnt" should be either "do not" or "don't"
I may not be the very best at english, I do apologize for that, my excuse is I'm Icelandic and I learned english watching alot of Tom & Jerry, what's yours?
And do not call me son again you patronizing sob, allright?
You earn that right by putting me in a pod, and you sir, have not.
challenge accepted son.
oh and in english we dont use so many z 
See Me!
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Elendar
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:21:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
However it appears that after the fact further terms were asked of FIX in that the allies have rights to fly, NPC mine in Querilous and also that hey were not to use freighters to move their assets (including multiple POS) from FAT. Those are the terms that FIX did not understandably want to comply with.
While limiting fix to querious sounds reasonable terms of surrender, these terms just seem petty and designed to contiune the war, no wonder sa have been trying not to let the details of the terms they gave out, they're not reasonable in any way whatsoever. seems they want war not peace
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:27:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Hans Roaming
However it appears that after the fact further terms were asked of FIX in that the allies have rights to fly, NPC mine in Querilous and also that hey were not to use freighters to move their assets (including multiple POS) from FAT. Those are the terms that FIX did not understandably want to comply with.
While limiting fix to querious sounds reasonable terms of surrender, these terms just seem petty and designed to contiune the war, no wonder sa have been trying not to let the details of the terms they gave out, they're not reasonable in any way whatsoever. seems they want war not peace
If you cant wipe out someone you are fighting against then the next best thing is to make sure remember they lost a war. Best way to do that is to make them agree to unrealistic terms of surrender. SA isnt actually going to follow through on those terms, its mearly to illustrate clearly who won the war.
Life will go on in querious as it always has (as sad as that sounds) if they publicly admit that they lost the war.
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zanxu
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:43:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Hans Roaming
However it appears that after the fact further terms were asked of FIX in that the allies have rights to fly, NPC mine in Querilous and also that hey were not to use freighters to move their assets (including multiple POS) from FAT. Those are the terms that FIX did not understandably want to comply with.
While limiting fix to querious sounds reasonable terms of surrender, these terms just seem petty and designed to contiune the war, no wonder sa have been trying not to let the details of the terms they gave out, they're not reasonable in any way whatsoever. seems they want war not peace
If you cant wipe out someone you are fighting against then the next best thing is to make sure remember they lost a war. Best way to do that is to make them agree to unrealistic terms of surrender. SA isnt actually going to follow through on those terms, its mearly to illustrate clearly who won the war.
Life will go on in querious as it always has (as sad as that sounds) if they publicly admit that they lost the war.
Unrealistic terms are not ment to be accepted...Even if accepted your terms would have only bred ill feelings in your defeated foes. The best way of defeating an enemy is by making them your friend. By making someone who didn't really like you into someone who hates you doesn't end wars. It starts them.
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Zubenelgenubi
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:51:00 -
[179]
meh.
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Sandy Kisler
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:01:00 -
[180]
Well if you look at it, it would be in bobs interest to get a diplomatic solution. Last thing they needs is G and Iron attacking from the north, v from arida and now sa from the south. Imo its all fix's fault and needs to be sorted before guns start firing.
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:01:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Raid on 31/01/2006 16:04:37
Originally by: zanxu
Unrealistic terms are not ment to be accepted...Even if accepted your terms would have only bred ill feelings in your defeated foes. The best way of defeating an enemy is by making them your friend. By making someone who didn't really like you into someone who hates you doesn't end wars. It starts them.
That only works if you have a common enemy. Although BOB would like that common enemy to be Northern Corps thats simply not realistic.
edit:
by unrealistic terms I mean terms that the agressor has no intention of fulfilling. IMO SA would not mine/npc in querious... life in Q is not likely to change if the terms were accepted. Humble pie i guess would be all they would be forced to eat.
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Man Upright
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:05:00 -
[182]
February is going to be the best month in the history of Eve. I'm going to devote much time to drinking blood.
gg SA. But large balls and small brain aren't always the best combination.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:06:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Deathwing
I think all the SA chaps need to stop talking like their the bell of the ball around here. The more **** you keep talking the harder it is going to be for your leaders to clean up after.
All this talk about how great SA is, is nothing more then a bunch of fresh meat who joined eve and heard stories about SA way back in the day when eve itself was still young, and trying to posture themselves into something they know nothing about. Since then, the Alliances of eve are alot different and SA isnt the mucho power house it "used" to be.
Just take a word of advice
Sit down and wait for Molle to tell you how this is going to happen
follows
Originally by: DB Preacher
Dianabolic spoke out of place and has been reprimanded for it.
The only things you should take as gospel from BoB in this thread are from Molle, Galavet or Blacklight.
BoB does allow for all members to discuss anything on the boards but I would hope that they would consider their words very carefully and allow our CEO's to make the decisions.
dbp
Meh,
Yo EVE Forums!!
Following what I have just heard on MSN it seem's as though SA is upto something...
The old SA which you speak of was built on a core group of leaders Mainly a core group of CEO's and FC's, Only a fraction of those leaders are left today playing the game as real life and the desire to play have dwindled there is still some old SA left from the corps and the few old core fighters that used to fly together through thick and thin.
The enthusiasm for EVE was one of the primary reasons IE-EX won Executership as I have found when you don't play EVE and get word of situations like this you care but not in a personal sense....
I am aware that BOB has again told us what we should and should not do, We were on the way to victory before even with FIX's old core PVP Corps, and today as you BOB say the 'younger' less expirenced ones are left waging a war with FIX and have done well and learnt allot but truthfully you can not learn much from a.. Not very good enemy. When G invaded the south we had no man power nor the willingness to fight to deffend regions.... One of the reasons we gave it up as we learnt during the CA war when C4 invaded Eso you can't kill SA because it is dug in so deep to its npc stations and CA the same,
Holdon Msn
2006.01.31 16:01
Stain- Alliance has declared war on Band of Brothers.
Well thats that... Ill shutup now or ill just get flamed by bob forum warriors
Respect to bob, Awaiting the war deck ASCN Paragon Soul and hell even you Chowlove :)
Maybe this is what we need to quit eve with a BANG!
Or to use the situation to our every PVP advantage:)
All I know is when Trig logs on it will be to late and he will not be happy.
I still wonder who clicked the war button and who authroized the move when it never came from Trig..
This is why EVE is such a good game, PVPers in BOB and SA are all buzzing, All alliances around EVE are going wow whats going on thriving for the next big event. And now the other alliances are already rallying to there freinds to analyz who what and where they will go.
Goodluck to all I doubt ill be playing eve much again.
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Xantina
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:14:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Hans Roaming
However it appears that after the fact further terms were asked of FIX in that the allies have rights to fly, NPC mine in Querilous and also that hey were not to use freighters to move their assets (including multiple POS) from FAT. Those are the terms that FIX did not understandably want to comply with.
While limiting fix to querious sounds reasonable terms of surrender, these terms just seem petty and designed to contiune the war, no wonder sa have been trying not to let the details of the terms they gave out, they're not reasonable in any way whatsoever. seems they want war not peace
If you cant wipe out someone you are fighting against then the next best thing is to make sure remember they lost a war. Best way to do that is to make them agree to unrealistic terms of surrender. SA isnt actually going to follow through on those terms, its mearly to illustrate clearly who won the war.
Life will go on in querious as it always has (as sad as that sounds) if they publicly admit that they lost the war.
So I take it your view on Pearl Harbour 1941 would be that America should have best surrendered then and there ?
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:30:00 -
[185]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Rod Blaine
-- snip --
Rod, in one word.
Shut up.
I think that's two words. >_<
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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rig0r
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:33:00 -
[186]
Originally by: thebold
2006.01.31 16:01
Stain- Alliance has declared war on Band of Brothers.
Lol, double-u-tee-eff ?
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:48:00 -
[187]
The Huzzah Federation as outlined above does not agree with the second set of terms imposed upon FIX. It especially does not support this unilateral decision to attack BoB, especially as the decision does not seem to be made by Trigger. At this time Huzzah forces are to be in Catch and Providence in a self defence stance only until further notice.
President
Huzzah Federation
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:51:00 -
[188]
Again Hans demonstrates his wisdom and maturity.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Happysin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:04:00 -
[189]
Wow. Just wow.
At least the 2D sovereignty map will be interesting to look at over the coming month.
ArsC Director of Logistics and Industry
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:05:00 -
[190]
It's clear that this war has started, mentally and later on physicly (you know what I mean).
But do you know what really grinds my gears is that people are getting too hostile and disrespecting each other like a bunch of kids. The forums **** me off too but sure let me try and not reply to useless comments again
Respect to Galavet, DB Preacher, Molle, Dianabolic and all of you. May we have good fights and keep the good humor close to us
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:05:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Avon
Again Hans demonstrates his wisdom and maturity.
It would be difficult to justify another position. His alliance doesn't have the luxury of NPC stations in their territory.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:17:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Cuebick
Respect to Galavet, DB Preacher, Molle, Dianabolic and all of you. May we have good fights and keep the good humor close to us
You're primary, we'll have no respect here :D
Should be fun mr cue.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Happysin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:20:00 -
[193]
Originally by: SLIM
Originally by: Avon
Again Hans demonstrates his wisdom and maturity.
It would be difficult to justify another position. His alliance doesn't have the luxury of NPC stations in their territory.
Hence why that decision demonstrates wisdom and maturity.
I can think of more than a few people that would be all "Frack it, we're going all-out!" anyway.
ArsC Director of Logistics and Industry
"Building our way to a better Tomorrow" |
Cuebick
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:20:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cuebick
Respect to Galavet, DB Preacher, Molle, Dianabolic and all of you. May we have good fights and keep the good humor close to us
You're primary, we'll have no respect here :D
Should be fun mr cue.
I should have put a z or x infront of my name so I dont appear so far up in the name list =(
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USN CVN73
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:24:00 -
[195]
Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:26:57
Lets see how fast Fix makes the war between BoB and SA instead of Fix Vs SA.
If i was a Fix member i would be very embarressed that BoB has to come in to save the day.
Frankly though with Band of Brothers in the picture they guarantee one thing. and that is FIX being their slaves for future dealings...
Once again i would be really ashamed being in FIX ALLIANCE...
No Honor - U lose FAT then u run to Daddy BOB for help once u felt threataned. Fix trys to leave the War from SA without surrender terms. Then when Surrender Terms are given Fix says NO because they got BOB to crawl too. Oh my, this day was coming for a long time and Band of Brothers was waiting for the day that Fix would come crawling for thier help.
I wonder if Band of Brothers really knows how Fix thinks of them. Fix would back stab BoB so fast if they had the opportunity. Fix talks so much smack in local about BoB saying that Fix doesnt need Band of Brothers to save Fix. They even said Fix would own Band of Brothers Alliance if they had the opportunity again to goto war.
Fix are manipulators they can care less about objectives all they care about is who is going to save them... If i was Band of Brothers i would demand lots of compensation from fix cause frankly Fix doesnt deserve to be saved by any alliance. Especially when they talk behind peoples backs all the time...
Good Luck Fix,
U still will die and i hope BOB will observe how much Fix sucks lately and not provide them with much help. There comes a time when big daddy wont be there to save the day. Fix - if u call yourself the #2 alliance in all of Eve - maybe u should act like it and FIGHT to protect your interests... Bob has more important matters than to SAVE U...
USN
This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Builders. At Least Band of Builders have objectives - Fix are an alliance holding on by a thread now hiding under the BOB Umbrella.
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:27:00 -
[196]
Edited by: smallgreenblur on 31/01/2006 17:28:14
Originally by: USN CVN73
Lets see how fast Fix makes the war between BoB and SA instead of Fix Vs SA.
If i was a Fix member i would be very embarressed that BoB has to come in to save the day.
Frankly though with Band of Brothers in the picture they guarantee one thing. and that is FIX being their slaves for future dealings...
Once again i would be really ashamed being in FIX ALLIANCE...
No Honor - U lose FAT then u run to Daddy BOB for help once u felt threataned. Fix trys to leave the War from SA without surrender terms. Then when Surrender Terms are given Fix says NO because they got BOB to crawl too. Oh my, this day was coming for a long time and Band of Brothers was waiting for the day that Fix would come crawling for thier help.
I wonder if Band of Brothers really knows how Fix thinks of them. Fix would back stab BoB so fast if they had the opportunity. Fix talks so much smack in local about BoB saying that Fix doesnt need Band of Builders to save Fix. They even said Fix would own Band of Brothers Alliance if they had the opportunity again to goto war.
Fix are manipulators they can care less about objectives all they care about is who is going to save them... If i was Band of Brothers i would demand lots of compensation from fix cause frankly Fix doesnt deserve to be saved by any alliance. Especially when they talk behind peoples backs all the time...
Good Luck Fix,
U still will die and i hope BOB will observe how much Fix sucks lately and not provide them with much help. There comes a time when big daddy wont be there to save the day. Fix - if u call yourself the #2 alliance in all of Eve - maybe u should act like it and FIGHT to protect your interests... Bob has more important matters than to SAVE U...
USN
This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Builders. At Least Band of Builders have objectives - Fix are an alliance holding on by a thread now hiding under the BOB Umbrella.
If anybody cares USN was a fix pilot but got kicked out over some controversy. Just putting things into perspective.
Kudos to Huzzah for having an attack of common sense :)
sgb
Edit: forgot to mention that fix likely rejected surrender terms since they involved giving SA complete free reign in Querious. You do the math.
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:32:00 -
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Euhh, Euhh, Euhh, get your facts straight and come back.
Would any alliance ever agree with surrender terms where you have to let another alliance, npc, mine, dock, etc? No I don't think so.
It looks like BOB only was interest in stabilty in south, SA said bring in on, even then BOB said SA would have to think it over, the SA went into BOB space and shot on there pilots. I don't think any alliance would see that as a friendly approach? So I don't think this has anything to do with FIX asking for help. More with SA being.......
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John Leitch
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: USN CVN73
Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:28:45
Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:26:57
Lets see how fast Fix makes the war between BoB and SA instead of Fix Vs SA.
If i was a Fix member i would be very embarressed that BoB has to come in to save the day.
Frankly though with Band of Brothers in the picture they guarantee one thing. and that is FIX being their slaves for future dealings...
Once again i would be really ashamed being in FIX ALLIANCE...
No Honor - U lose FAT then u run to Daddy BOB for help once u felt threataned. Fix trys to leave the War from SA without surrender terms. Then when Surrender Terms are given Fix says NO because they got BOB to crawl too. Oh my, this day was coming for a long time and Band of Brothers was waiting for the day that Fix would come crawling for thier help.
I wonder if Band of Brothers really knows how Fix thinks of them. Fix would back stab BoB so fast if they had the opportunity. Fix talks so much smack in local about BoB saying that Fix doesnt need Band of Brothers to save Fix. They even said Fix would own Band of Brothers Alliance if they had the opportunity again to goto war.
Fix are manipulators they can care less about objectives all they care about is who is going to save them... If i was Band of Brothers i would demand lots of compensation from fix cause frankly Fix doesnt deserve to be saved by any alliance. Especially when they talk behind peoples backs all the time...
Good Luck Fix,
U still will die and i hope BOB will observe how much Fix sucks lately and not provide them with much help. There comes a time when big daddy wont be there to save the day. Fix - if u call yourself the #2 alliance in all of Eve - maybe u should act like it and FIGHT to protect your interests... Bob has more important matters than to SAVE U...
USN
This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Brothers. At Least Band of Brothers have objectives - Fix are an alliance holding on by a thread now hiding under the BOB Umbrella.
Bob isnt saving the day, there simply reacting to a war dec from the mighty SA :) Just like SA 'reacted' when FIX sent them to neutral standings. There only defending themslelves really
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USN CVN73
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:40:00 -
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yep thats kewl bro. BOB has a reason for entering into the conflict. Still cant say much about Fix. they are the puppets now and they know it... Fix will talk all the crap they want now because they will feel protected by the Bob umbrella. I feel very confident once u see Fix pvp in action u wont want to fight for them...
USN
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whisk
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:46:00 -
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Four words....
best forum thread ever!
SA you really can't blame FIX for bringing in BoB. From the looks of it, BoB had not decided if you over stepped the mark or FIX had, then you go and war dec them. Who ever is in charge of SA right now, god pure comedy gold is all i can say.
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Orree
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Rod Blaine
-- snip --
Rod, in one word.
Shut up.
That's two words, genius.
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RacerX1
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:54:00 -
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USN you never cease to amaze me...Do look forward to seeing you on the battlefield.
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Bad Obsession
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:56:00 -
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Linkage
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Top Hat
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:59:00 -
[204]
Originally by: USN CVN73
Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:28:45
Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 17:26:57
Lets see how fast Fix makes the war between BoB and SA instead of Fix Vs SA.
If i was a Fix member i would be very embarressed that BoB has to come in to save the day.
Frankly though with Band of Brothers in the picture they guarantee one thing. and that is FIX being their slaves for future dealings...
Once again i would be really ashamed being in FIX ALLIANCE...
No Honor - U lose FAT then u run to Daddy BOB for help once u felt threataned. Fix trys to leave the War from SA without surrender terms. Then when Surrender Terms are given Fix says NO because they got BOB to crawl too. Oh my, this day was coming for a long time and Band of Brothers was waiting for the day that Fix would come crawling for thier help.
I wonder if Band of Brothers really knows how Fix thinks of them. Fix would back stab BoB so fast if they had the opportunity. Fix talks so much smack in local about BoB saying that Fix doesnt need Band of Brothers to save Fix. They even said Fix would own Band of Brothers Alliance if they had the opportunity again to goto war.
Fix are manipulators they can care less about objectives all they care about is who is going to save them... If i was Band of Brothers i would demand lots of compensation from fix cause frankly Fix doesnt deserve to be saved by any alliance. Especially when they talk behind peoples backs all the time...
Good Luck Fix,
U still will die and i hope BOB will observe how much Fix sucks lately and not provide them with much help. There comes a time when big daddy wont be there to save the day. Fix - if u call yourself the #2 alliance in all of Eve - maybe u should act like it and FIGHT to protect your interests... Bob has more important matters than to SAVE U...
USN
This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Brothers. At Least Band of Brothers have objectives - Fix are an alliance holding on by a thread now hiding under the BOB Umbrella.
Worst attempt ever at trying to create a divide.
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: USN CVN73
This is ment to be 100% Flaming toward Fix not Band of Brothers.
Thats all you have done in all these months since leaving FIX USN...
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Top Hat
Worst attempt ever at trying to create a divide.
No need to. As we all know how entangled you are.
You just need to go read the public parts of the FIX forums to see that you in RKK offered FIX your help quite some time ago, and that FIX actually had the honour to reject it until they were completely beaten on the battlefield.
'Stabile south' - what a load of crap.
If you wanted to have a stabile south, you would have acted immediately and stopped any of the 3! attacks made by FIX on us, put pressure on them and warned them about their future conduct. Instead each time you wait until we've reacted and given FIX a whopping: First then you step in and say 'stop'.
That is not the way to pretend you're neutral, nor the way to create stability. - That's the way to demonstrate that you've picked sides from the beginning.
And whatever we've done that made you so clearly choose them over us from the beginning, I have no idea.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: whisk
From the looks of it, BoB had not decided if you over stepped the mark or FIX had, then you go and war dec them.
From the looks of it, most of BoB had picked sides long ago, with only a smaller part standing up for their old allies. As such it was only a matter of time before they'd officially picked "you know which side".
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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Happysin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Obsession
Linkage
But, but I've been working on my Tech II Pony skills!
ArsC Director of Logistics and Industry
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Leno on 31/01/2006 18:31:33
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Rod Blaine
-- snip --
Rod, in one word.
Shut up.
That's 2 words...
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RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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USN CVN73
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:00:00 -
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USN speaks truth!!!
I respect BOB so all i can say is look closer to your friends in Querious. Tell yourselves does fix deserve to be saved? if they can't beat Stain Alliance on their own why should Fix even deserve BOB's protection. BOB are true Pvpers. Fix are now carebears desperate for help.
Stain will destroy Fix. Stain proves day in day out that they fight - Fix for the last 6 weeks proved they cant handle the heat. I dare any Fix member to step up to the forums and post. Fix knows they are Beat only to be saved by BOB intervention. somone from FIX post and defend yourself. Seems only in this thread non fix entities are responding . Wonder Why? cause Fix are laughing in a corner right now saying now that BOB is in the war FIX can beat SA.
USN
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Valisar
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:27:00 -
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When one believes they are stronger than their enemy, yet outwardly boasts all of the time about it and seeks only to crush those they perceive as weaker...
...are they really stronger?
I believe arrogance can be a very poor mistake to make. I dont believe SA is strong. To be a better fighter is one thing but they way you have conducted yourself throughout the campaign has been terrible, and now your arrogant display of unreasonable terms to fix after a ceasefire is going to cost you. The whole of the universe can see that and thats why people are now rallying to aid FIX.
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rig0r
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:31:00 -
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USN, it looks like you joined the wrong alliance
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dianabolic on 31/01/2006 19:44:13
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: whisk
From the looks of it, BoB had not decided if you over stepped the mark or FIX had, then you go and war dec them.
From the looks of it, most of BoB had picked sides long ago, with only a smaller part standing up for their old allies. As such it was only a matter of time before they'd officially picked "you know which side".
I think u don't know much about BoB and how we work, dalman.
fwiw though, you're absolutely right, RKK (well, me actually) have asked FIX on a number of occassions if they are being hassled in Querious, they weren't. Your representatives agreed with FIX to stop the war and FIX would leave catch.
You then turned this in to: "SA get mining rights in Q, FIX can't use a freighter, we will have a 1v1 at high noon, etc etc". Then you war dec'd BoB (thanks btw).
So, regardless of how many "sides" there may or may not be, your actions force only one reaction, regardless of what sympathies the pilots of BoB might feel for you - and that is the one you shall receive.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Corto Maltese
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: whisk
Four words....
best forum thread ever!
SA you really can't blame FIX for bringing in BoB. From the looks of it, BoB had not decided if you over stepped the mark or FIX had, then you go and war dec them. Who ever is in charge of SA right now, god pure comedy gold is all i can say.
Last time I saw you posting on the forum, you were saying that Huzzah Federation were only hugging stations from inside.
Funny thing is,, that a couple of days later we found you in empire with your lil gang that you use to try to gank our carebears with in empire hugging the station yourself, when we were knocking on the door asking you guys to come out and play ;<
But nooo reply
Everything you posted so far...
Guess where the comedy comes from..
GOOD OR NO?
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 31/01/2006 19:51:52
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: theRaptor
Exuro decided to war dec on their own before this incident happend.
A BoB member happily saying that BoB would allow Exuro to declare on SA. Exactly like FIX has been allowed to attack SA over and over.
Let me fill you in on a bit of history.
We used to be positive with SE/SA and whatever various incarnations of it ever existed. We participated in the first war against FIX for a while, then went back to do our own merc/pirating thing. We'd had good standings with SE/SA for a good six months or so, to the point where an SE diplomat even tried recruiting us into the fold.
Sometime in early September I think it was, SA had ignored long time standings and begun firing on our pilots in Providence and northern Catch. I know all too well that NAPs mean nothing to SA, nor have we forgotten the hostilites.
We are not BoB pets, lapdogs, or hired guns in any way, shape, or form - as I'm sure Galavet, Molle, Blacklight, and anyone else will be happy to tell you. We merely reside in Delve because its a beneficial relationship for both us and BoB. To prove my point, we were outright hostile to FIX up until last night - which, according to you, is one of BoBs cloest allies. That pretty much negates your entire point.
We declared war on you because we make it a point to eradicate the stupidity from eve. If you have a problem with us, you can feel free to address me directly.
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TriggerHippy
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: TriggerHippy on 31/01/2006 20:15:28
ack
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:21:00 -
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USN CVN73
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:44:00 -
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Still not one fix member posting and defending their position.It may seem to be a Glorious day for Fix but in reality its a very SAD day..
As for joining the wrong alliance. Think twice before u make comments like that. I for one will stand by SA till the servers break down!!!
Long Live SA
USN
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:46:00 -
[219]
Edited by: Righteous Fury on 31/01/2006 20:46:50
Originally by: USN CVN73
Still not one fix member posting and defending their position.It may seem to be a Glorious day for Fix but in reality its a very SAD day..
As for joining the wrong alliance. Think twice before u make comments like that. I for one will stand by SA till the servers break down!!!
Long Live SA
USN
Like you stood by UnAssociated? Then ran to SA as we utterly demolished you?
Pipe down USN. You type a lot but really have nothing to say - I don't want you getting carpral-tunnel syndrome. This thread has been flamed to shreds. Let it be.
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 31/01/2006 20:53:52
Originally by: Dianabolic
I think u don't know much about BoB and how we work, dalman.
fwiw though, you're absolutely right, RKK (well, me actually) have asked FIX on a number of occassions if they are being hassled in Querious, they weren't. Your representatives agreed with FIX to stop the war and FIX would leave catch.
You then turned this in to: "SA get mining rights in Q, FIX can't use a freighter, we will have a 1v1 at high noon, etc etc". Then you war dec'd BoB (thanks btw).
So, regardless of how many "sides" there may or may not be, your actions force only one reaction, regardless of what sympathies the pilots of BoB might feel for you - and that is the one you shall receive.
Nope I do not know that.
And of course you'll have to do what you have to do now.
The point I was making in the above post was just what you said here:
"RKK (well, me actually) have asked FIX on a number of occassions if they are being hassled in Querious".
If your from the start regarded both FIX and SA as allies (which you(not referring in person) should had unless you've been lying in the past), then the one action of you that should be called for is the complete opposite: That you acted on FIX's continued aggressions against us instead of against our response to their aggressions.
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Let me fill you in on a bit of history.
We used to be positive with SE/SA and whatever various incarnations of it ever existed. We participated in the first war against FIX for a while, then went back to do our own merc/pirating thing. We'd had good standings with SE/SA for a good six months or so, to the point where an SE diplomat even tried recruiting us into the fold.
Sometime in early September I think it was, SA had ignored long time standings and begun firing on our pilots in Providence and northern Catch. I know all too well that NAPs mean nothing to SA, nor have we forgotten the hostilites.
We are not BoB pets, lapdogs, or hired guns in any way, shape, or form - as I'm sure Galavet, Molle, Blacklight, and anyone else will be happy to tell you. We merely reside in Delve because its a beneficial relationship for both us and BoB. To prove my point, we were outright hostile to FIX up until last night - which, according to you, is one of BoBs cloest allies. That pretty much negates your entire point.
We declared war on you because we make it a point to eradicate the stupidity from eve. If you have a problem with us, you can feel free to address me directly.
Hmmm, first off; on our killboard tracking back to SE->SA I can only find one Exuro Mortis kill (cept for the tournament)- an empty industrial in Fixie land. Not refuting your claims, just saying I know nothing about them.
But very much no; on the contrary you prove my point exactly:
Exuro Mortis attacking Stain: BoB says 'sure'.
Exuro Mortis attacking FIX: BoB says 'sure'.
FIX attacking SA(multiple times): BoB says 'sure'.
SA responding to FIX's attacks (multiple times): BoB says 'waaaa, NO WAY! Stop or we will attack you'.
At the same time BoB officially claim all the three above to be their allies.
This behaviour is not consistant. Somewhere in this, something very strange is going on.
And that BoB seems to think (personified by Dianabolic above) that they have done nothing wrong is outragous.
Yes, I'd go as far as to critizise ppl in my own alliance too; But that you don't understand that you caused their reactions and behaviour by what I've said here is truely remarkable.
*edit* ^^that last part directed at ppl like Dianabolic, not RF.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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Fredbob
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Fredbob on 31/01/2006 20:57:37
Originally by: USN CVN73
Still not one fix member posting and defending their position.It may seem to be a Glorious day for Fix but in reality its a very SAD day..
USN
I post here merely to inform you that Fixians have been asked not to post in this thread.
As such I will not comment on any of the content within.
Edit: lol Mach, refer to this post please
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~Fredbob~
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Machiavelli7
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:55:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
<snip>
Lol - pulling out of the war now that the odds aren't so much in your favour??
SA should make you KOS, you turncoats. But i suppose they've got enough on their plate atm |
IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: IcedBach Jr on 31/01/2006 20:56:51
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I post here merely to inform you that Fixians have been asked not to post in this thread.
As such I will not comment on any of the content within.
Smth SA members might try to do too.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:01:00 -
[224]
Originally by: dalman
Exuro Mortis attacking FIX: BoB says 'sure'.
Thats where you are again, wrong. You're confusing apathy with permission. On the same vein, I suppose you associate MC actions with BoB directive because they use Delve as well?
You've gone beyond reasoning and are now venturing into the realm of paranoia. We do our thing, BoB does their thing, sometimes we do things together. Simple as.
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USN CVN73
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 21:14:02
Edited by: USN CVN73 on 31/01/2006 21:13:08
We speak the truth thats why Fix wont comment on this thread. only their non - fix friends will defend fix.
Sad Sad So Sad. go cry in a corner fixians.
Admit defeat in an honorable fashion and all this smack talk and fix flaming would have been non existant.
Bob and SA and Even Fix would have dealt with other more important matters than continue this war.
Unfortunatly Fix doesnt know how to Admit Defeat instead they go crying to BOB. Save us. Our carebears are all leaving fix. we have no more pvp trial corps to do our dirty work. Bob Please Save Fix. We beg of you!!!
I will agree with Rightious Fury. Yes Slackers r and were very hostile to FIX even with BOB being Allied with Fix.
USN
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:29:00 -
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Oh well.
I did my best in this thread to actually get a reasonable discussion going(page 5), as in getting all parties to hold up and take a step back for the moment, as the hasty proceedings were just stupid.
It didn't work, obviously.
So I proceeded to explain why alot of ppl in SA were very upset with BoB's behaviour and why they reacted in this 'not so thought through' way, as it seems neither the public nor many BoB members didn't understand it at all.
If you choose to mis-understand what I was saying, feel free to do so
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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USN CVN73
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Edited by: Righteous Fury on 31/01/2006 20:46:50
Originally by: USN CVN73
Still not one fix member posting and defending their position.It may seem to be a Glorious day for Fix but in reality its a very SAD day..
As for joining the wrong alliance. Think twice before u make comments like that. I for one will stand by SA till the servers break down!!!
Long Live SA
USN
Like you stood by UnAssociated? Then ran to SA as we utterly demolished you?
Pipe down USN. You type a lot but really have nothing to say - I don't want you getting carpral-tunnel syndrome. This thread has been flamed to shreds. Let it be.
hehe definatly not the same situation bro. U destroyed Unassociated... it disbanded so i left. and half of Una went to Fix and other Half went To SA and Huzzah.
:)
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RacerX1
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Posted - 2006.01.31 22:19:00 -
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USN the savior and honor of EVE everyone...where is your nearest temple so that i my grovel at your sheer brilliance, are you the reincarnation of baby jesus himself?
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:00:00 -
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(I'll try again - Sorry Eve community)
Can all SA just be quiet. Your behaving like a bunch of children with the who did what, I did this, they did this, *beat chest here* type of mentality. If you really want to have a rant, do it on the SA forums.
Onto the matter of BoB, I only just found out about the war dec and personally, I am amazed it went this far in such a short amount of time. It was never my intention, nor MASS, to turn something that can be resolved through diplomatic channels into a shooting match instigated by Stain.
I still hold onto the hope that the extent of the damage is not so much that we can't at least discuss this matter again in due time.
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The Dokter
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:04:00 -
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USN, isn't that the same one who was in a fix corps and told on the fix forums he never would shoot on a fix pilot. Is it that USN? and if FIX is defeaten, why are you angry. You have won, you can go and have a party. Now you have to fight BOB and some other people(understatement)
And one more time, FIX attacked the coalition not SE/SA, the war stopped when the coalition rejoined SE/SA. The second time there was a standing change, what was reason for SA to start a war (FIX changed it from +5 to 0, SA from +5 to -10). A cease fire was reach, but if you ask for mining, npc AND DOCKING rights, you know no alliance will accept that sort of agreement. And still at that time BOB said, FIX and SA should talk. (Read the forums) But what does SA, they go into NOL and attack BOB. So you ask why BOB is fighting? Not because of FIX, but because of people in SA who liked a nice war and started one them selfs.
That a big part of southern alliance's is joining them, maybe give you a clue on what sort of feelings people have for SA:P
Don't ask why FIX isn't responding, because USN you should know why.
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USN CVN73
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: RacerX1
USN the savior and honor of EVE everyone...where is your nearest temple so that i my grovel at your sheer brilliance, are you the reincarnation of baby jesus himself?
My Temple is in Atlantis but for some reason i cant find it right now :)
ya ya i know whatcha mean bro. im not hating anyone one person or alliance for that matter. i type so much crap sometimes im serious bro i make my self laugh reading it. at least im not an alt typing away. im fighting and in the thick of things and im not afraid to speak my opinion.
Eve is Fun if not press cancel subscription and dont read forums
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:51:00 -
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Well I just read the other post by molle .. seems things have gone too far.
Best of luck to all 3 sides involved.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.01 00:02:00 -
[233]
Originally by: dalman
Oh well.
I did my best in this thread to actually get a reasonable discussion going(page 5), as in getting all parties to hold up and take a step back for the moment, as the hasty proceedings were just stupid.
Thing is dalman, at least in my opinion, this wasn't rushed. When the emperor returned to the verse, it caused widespread disruption. This led to FIX getting FAT - that was a action of the sa's making. Now, SA had the chance to retrieve FAT, wait a few months, then go at it again whist entrenched. But no, SA present to FIX (after both sides, regardless of authority, as far as we were concerned the people agreeing to it had the authority to do so) a "new" terms of "surrender", one that if only a weak alliance would accept.
FIX are not a weak alliance. They have fought the combined forces of SA, SE, HUZZAH and, for a time, KAOS aswell. Yet SA wish to insult them with these terms?
FIX refused, SA said it was war - we asked if that was their final word, they said yes, it was, that nothing would stop them.
What else, really, needs to be said?
When your fleet turned up in NOL this afternoon, any chance to finish this without us shooting each other went down the pan.
Here's to you and yours, dalman.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Madam Rage
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Posted - 2006.02.01 00:04:00 -
[234]
Edited by: Madam Rage on 01/02/2006 00:04:08
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Quillan Rage
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Posted - 2006.02.01 00:06:00 -
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.01 00:20:00 -
[236]
Edited by: Sarmaul on 01/02/2006 00:20:19
Edited by: Sarmaul on 01/02/2006 00:20:04
Originally by: Quillan Rage
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I know full well I'm not really allowed to spam these forums, but from a 100% personal standpoint, with not a single shred of authority, agreement, disagreement or anything else from anyone in fix or fix as a whole, that is class :)
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Reiken Moisark
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Posted - 2006.02.01 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: Reiken Moisark on 01/02/2006 02:20:52
Originally by: Machiavelli7
Originally by: Hans Roaming
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Lol - pulling out of the war now that the odds aren't so much in your favour??
SA should make you KOS, you turncoats. But i suppose they've got enough on their plate atm
They should join FoFF and make their own alliance where they post poorly thought out messages on forums and carry their pride on their sleeve. Then they could claim regions, make deals and break them 10 minutes later. They could be called Stain Allerance.
Maybe they could fight ISS?
AND USN... ffs... you were always better at shooting things than actually knowing what was going on, even 3 minutes after someone just told you what was going on you were confused about it. Go do what you're good at and quit acting like FIX lost something you had a hand in taking away. FAT != FIX and everyone and their uncle Roger knows it.
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Specture
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Posted - 2006.02.01 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: SLIM
Originally by: Avon
Again Hans demonstrates his wisdom and maturity.
It would be difficult to justify another position. His alliance doesn't have the luxury of NPC stations in their territory.
they got POSs though :(
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Central Scrutinizer
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Posted - 2006.02.01 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 31/01/2006 00:48:43
I have just one thing to say.
Bring it on.
I remember someone saying that before, outside of Eve....
How'd that turn out?
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Sheppard
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:53:00 -
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Ah FFS i dont care what ship even a pod but plz make USN primary!
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Zuper Phrend
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Posted - 2006.02.01 14:05:00 -
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Is this how Real Life(c) international politics works?
I'd kill to play that game.
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.02.01 14:05:00 -
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Hello im FIX.. im gonna go and run to papabear(bob) and cry for help.. plz bob take my isk and help me to not get raped by the big bad SA.. i wish i knew what the bob leaders got for this..
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Turin
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Posted - 2006.02.02 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Turin on 02/02/2006 22:20:22
Edited by: Turin on 02/02/2006 22:19:54
Okay. I dont get it. If I underastand this correctly.
Here is the timeline of events.
1. SA pilot shoots FIX pilot who was in ASUYA gang.( ASUYA gang was ganking SA in catch pipe, but the FIX pilot was NOT fireing on SA )
2. FIX pilot shoots SA pilot.
3. FIX sets SA to Neut. ( prolly not good, should have been a diplomatic solution )
4.) War ensues. SA brings in HUZZAH, KAOS, and a couple others.
5.) FIX stands alone against combined alliances. Gets beaten in FAT. Withdraws to Querious.
6.) FIX asks BOB for help. BOB brookers a cease fire.
7.) SA proposes cease fire terms to FIX. FIX shall surrender the fight in FAT, and pull down all exsisting POS's. FIX stays out of CATCH, SA stays out of Quierious. All agree.
8.) Next day. SA alters the agreed upon terms. FIX is to pull down all POS's in Catch, but are NOT allowed to use freighters to do it. FIX is NOT allowed in Catch at all. SA IS allowed in Querious to NPC / RAT / MINE.
9.) FIX refuse's terms. WAR is back on.
10.) SA attacks BOB
11.) BOB fights back ( duh? ) And now SA is facing a smackdown of thier own.
12.) SA comes to forums to smacktalk FIX for asking for help from BOB, and calls FIX weak, even though they attacked FIX with the forces of 4 alliances. FIX is now "weak" in asking for help.
Did I miss anything?
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.02.02 22:22:00 -
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6) Both FIX and SA asked BoB for assistance in one shape or another, then BoB decided to broker a deal between them to stabilise the Southern regions.
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Turin
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Posted - 2006.02.02 23:31:00 -
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My bad. Fixed. :)
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xenorx
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Posted - 2006.02.03 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Laythun turns to his leiutenant
'prepare a transmission and send it immediately over galnet'
the unnamed leiutenant turns to the comms station, 'were ready to transmit sir' begin transmission'
so it seems there'll be lot more traffic through stain then...
0.o i should get ready in the CF 'hole'...
This may sound bizzare...but CF and FIX may need positive standing to each other"!ú!?1ú! as we are both 'at war/hostile' to SA and both dislike there pointlessly arrogant standing to the south.
Laythun dismisses the subordinate with a bellow from his desk...
'seems that things in stain will require attention, but i think we have enough time for SNU first'
SWEET JUMPING JESUS CHRIST!!! HELL HAS STARTED TO FREEZE!!!
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.02.03 00:37:00 -
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What? We didnt ask for assistance, nothing would have pleased us more than to continue fighting Fix without 'intervention' from Bob.
The reasons for the war are a little bit of a grey area, (accusations of us flying with RA who are hostile to fix yet asuya/etc corps flying with fix had always been shooting at us in the corridor, we accepted someone fix didnt like into sa, someone lost a frigate or something and cried), really it was like round 3 and Im sure everyone was quite eager to see it to the bitter end.
Fix had already been pushed out of Fat, and that is when Bob stepped in.
Who is this 4th alliance you are talking about on our side? Kaos also left the conflict, was great to fly with them again but in the later stages it was just SA/Huzzah.
And Fix was 'weak' for defending from several alliances? Your words.. Nobody in this topic from SA ever said they were weak. By your reasoning bob is also 'weak' because they have brought in a multitude of alliances to fight us. Weak? Not at all, war isnt fair, and part of it is all about bringing more to the table than the other person can deal with.
FIX were obviously on the losing side despite all the forum propaganda otherwise A) they wouldnt have been pushed out of catch, and B) Bob wouldnt have stepped in to prevent their demise.
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>currently training to level 5: sexual tyrannosaurus / Rank 8 /
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Turin
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Posted - 2006.02.03 00:55:00 -
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I dont disagree FIX got beat. I think everyone knows that.
And Regardless of the time frame and duration KAOS helped you, they were still there. They had Dreads if I remember correctly. So its not lik they did nothing.
And I see nothing but "OMG FIX IS WEAK THEY HAD TO ASK THIER BIG BROTHER BOB FOR HELP!!!!!@#@!#$WRE#!~ OMGZORZ!!!"
I just dont understand how people can rag in FIX for doing so, with combined alliance forces against them.
And my understanding was that another alliance came into the frey just after I was out of FIX. If that is incorrect, then I will correct myself and appologize. Okay. They only had to fight THREE alliances by themself. Sorry. :P
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.02.03 01:04:00 -
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Its probably just fustration more than anything else, forums seem to be a place where alot of propaganda is spread but also where people just come to vent during the long hours of work
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>currently training to level 5: sexual tyrannosaurus / Rank 8 /
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.03 01:16:00 -
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Just caught up on this thread finally -
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6) Both FIX and SA asked BoB for assistance in one shape or another, then BoB decided to broker a deal between them to stabilise the Southern regions.
This is bull**** and BoB knows it. they asked us in the first week of the war, what would WE want Bob to do, and i (personally) said something along the lines of:
"sit tight and grab the popcorn".
Blacklight can confirm this.
regarding the "who started this war" thing:
Fix's reasons to set SA to 0.0 wee BS to begin with.
The firing incident everyone are talknig about DID happen, BUT no kill took palce. the guy got out in armour.
also, fix never braught any of thier "reasons" to our attention prior to the standigns reset.
I'm sure that if they would have, non of this would have happend.
Also, Asuya and co have no whatsoever relation to this conflict.
they are a jolly bunch of lads and good PvPers, and they go where the action is, naturally.
For us, it was very fun to have them hanging in the "pipe" as they provided us (and we provided them) with many many good fights and very nice action.
Also, would like to clearefy that the "1v1" term was "in humor", and to begin with, was proposed by a Fix rep named Drantis, and not by me.
was along the lines of:
"how bout add me and you 1v1 t1 frigs?"
to which i responded with something like:
"How bout make it more interesting and make it t1 cruisers?"
my 2 cents for tonight.
grr.. cant stop visiting these boards.. sod amna ddictive this stuff is...
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USN CVN73
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Posted - 2006.02.03 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: USN CVN73 on 03/02/2006 03:34:34
Originally by: Sheppard
Ah FFS i dont care what ship even a pod but plz make USN primary!
hehehe - u give me way to much credit to be called primary...
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.02.03 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
This is bull**** and BoB knows it. they asked us in the first week of the war, what would WE want Bob to do, and i (personally) said something along the lines of:
"sit tight and grab the popcorn".
Blacklight can confirm this.
I don't have to confirm anything with Blacklight, he's my brother and we talk about everything Eve related daily. Yes you did say you wanted us to stay out of the FIX fight, and asked us to publicly say you were not to use Delve for Querious ops, amongst alot of other things.
You didn't read what I posted very well though. I said in one shape or another, that doesn't necessarily mean 'bring your guns to help us'. Assistance can be applied in different ways, depends on your point of view of course.
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Saleia
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Posted - 2006.02.03 20:07:00 -
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Sounds Like SA is backed itself in a corner and back stabbed too many friends. And all they can do is sit here and cry fowl.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.02.03 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Blacklight on 03/02/2006 20:51:13
Meh, I can't be arsed with it, kicking defenceless people when they are down != fun.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Kantar
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Posted - 2006.02.04 01:32:00 -
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So much Hate there is no love anymore.
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Megri
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Unleashed
we accepted someone fix didnt like into sa,
Everyone likes me, what are you talking about?
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Azanturus
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Posted - 2006.02.04 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Megri
Originally by: Unleashed
we accepted someone fix didnt like into sa,
Everyone likes me, what are you talking about?
Shouldn't you be busy selling snowballs you were entrusted to hand out?
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Comnander Marcello
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Posted - 2006.02.04 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Howdy.
Fix has rejected the surrender terms being given by us and we will now proceed into illiminating thier alliance into ashes untill they kindlly agree to the terms in quetion.
Have a nice day-cycle.
Orc A, on behalf of The SA.
I can't help but reflect on the ups and downs in this game, as in life in general.
When Orc A wrote this he was on top of the world. He saw his enemies beaten and he felt strong. Submission was not enough, he now aimed for destruction.
But alas... it backfired. Now it is SA who will be utterly crushed.
hahaha
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2006.02.04 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Comnander Marcello
Originally by: Orc A
Howdy.
Fix has rejected the surrender terms being given by us and we will now proceed into illiminating thier alliance into ashes untill they kindlly agree to the terms in quetion.
Have a nice day-cycle.
Orc A, on behalf of The SA.
I can't help but reflect on the ups and downs in this game, as in life in general.
When Orc A wrote this he was on top of the world. He saw his enemies beaten and he felt strong. Submission was not enough, he now aimed for destruction.
But alas... it backfired. Now it is SA who will be utterly crushed.
hahaha
hahaha... no wait... what?
The Collective
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.02.04 11:05:00 -
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Quote:
Sounds Like SA is backed itself in a corner and back stabbed too many friends.
ohh please mr genious...list every way we backed stabbed some one? i would be most interested to know as i can only think of one thing which could even be remotley described as backstabbing..and that is so far from the truth of the matter only uninformed alts (or people who have nothing to do with the matter) like yourself would think it was.
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
i thought u sold this character megri...interesting ploy to stop everyone trying to kill you..shame u couldnt keep your mouth closed..well back to the kos list for you
Pleased to be on your special list! :)
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