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Randay	Posted - 2006.02.02 10:05:00 - [121] Originally by: Orc A I'm just gonna remove eve-o forums from my favourites now. BRILLIANT! ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Ku'Gras	Posted - 2006.02.02 10:08:00 - [122] Originally by: Orc A Okey, this is really pointless... My info is first hand and yours is second (at best). So, if you wont listen now, you wont listen... ever. I'm just gonna remove eve-o forums from my favourites now. good day :D yes, forget it happened for a month or two and see if the problem goes away.
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2006.02.02 10:13:00 - [123] Why are there idiots in this thread flaming him for spelling? you ppl are really ****s english is not his native tounge and he speaks and writes just fine. lay off the issue of spelling and focus on the statment.
Randay	Posted - 2006.02.02 10:30:00 - [124] You know how Bush comes off as an idiot because of his bad english and grammar? Its the same thing. Critisizing someone for thier bad english is valid when they are a diplomat, it makes it hard to interpret thier messages, especially on the internet where its all just text and all you have is your spelling, grammar, and choice of words. ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Soul Redemption	Posted - 2006.02.02 10:43:00 - [125] Doesnt matter, the fact is hes still another person playing the game and deserves the minimum amount of respect from his fellow players. I'd like to see you ppl try and speak hebrew and see how'd you like it if i'd laugh my ass off when you make the smallest mistake with it. this game would be much better and much more welcoming, if ppl understood the term of basic respect for all players.
Sceartan	Posted - 2006.02.02 11:06:00 - [126] Originally by: Ku'Gras When two neighbours we both are allied with are not able to sort out their issues by themselves we tell them to play nice, keep what they have earned in battles, cease hostilities and work out a deal. Correction, you can advise your neighbours on what to do. As evidenced, some of those neighbours don't like to be told how to behave - hence the really messy situation we have now. Only time will tell if what all parties concerned made the right choice. Good luck to all and especially the mods, can't say their job has been easy these past few days
Macsine	Posted - 2006.02.02 11:24:00 - [127] Have a nice vacation Orc A. Your attention here isn't really needed you made your point quiet clear: Quote: Whilst the border incidents and the tactical weight of the region played an important part in deteriorating relations between both parties, Pebbledasher thinks that the Stain- Alliance "covets FIX territory", going even further to say that, "their avarice has lead ... to initiate, what in their minds always was, an acquisitive conflict." This allegation is not completely refuted by Orc A, who justifies their action: "It's time for more cooperative members to reside in Querious", with the long term objective being the complete termination of the Firmus Ixion alliance. Or read the whole original statement
Mag's	Posted - 2006.02.02 11:26:00 - [128] Originally by: Randay You know how Bush comes off as an idiot because of his bad english and grammar? Its the same thing. Critisizing someone for thier bad english is valid when they are a diplomat, it makes it hard to interpret thier messages, especially on the internet where its all just text and all you have is your spelling, grammar, and choice of words. I'm sorry but your analogy is incorrect. Orc A has stated that English is his THIRD language, whereas Mr Bush has American English as his FIRST language, hence the ridicule. Now people may not agree with Orc A, but to put him down and call him names because of a few spelling errors, is, quite frankly, poor judgement on thier part not his.
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.02.02 12:43:00 - [129] Quote: Now people may not agree with Orc A, but to put him down and call him names because of a few spelling errors, is, quite frankly, poor judgement on thier part not his i wonder how much of those flamming orc for his spelling would be able to write perfectly in their 3rd language? let those without sin cast the first stone. _____ "When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept
Riley Craven	Posted - 2006.02.02 15:32:00 - [130] Originally by: CopeLand Edited by: CopeLand on 02/02/2006 05:25:42 Originally by: Riley Craven Originally by: DigitalCommunist Originally by: ORC A Some diplomatical Fubar incidens have taken palce, but instead of allowing us to rectefy they wrongs, they choose to turn thier back. So be it. You just admitted to failure, one of the worst kind I might add. Attacking the people you just spoke to diplomatically sounds a lot like turning your back on not only diplomacy but your word. You could have rectified very easily and very quickly. Compensate any losses, apologize, and remove the offending parties from your alliance. You failed yet again, and you expect to be treated with patience? Pssh, I like Trigger, and most of MASS but SA deserves a good slapping for letting people like you in a leadership position You could even take this one step further. I read somewhere that all SA wanted was a unified South. Since when does unity involve violence? Last time I checked if you wanted unity you do not do it with guns. (Cuse hey you might win in the end, but the people you enslave will be a pain in your butt for as long as you rule) I am unimpressed with all of the people giving SA kudos for standing up. As a diplomat you should have realized that all 3 alliances have stakes here. It was in BOBs best interest to ensure the peace regardless of how you may have taken it. Bob wasnt pushing its weight around just because they could, Bob was doing what any good alliance would, protecting its own interests. To tell us to F$ off just because your ego is as big as your stupidity does not seem like a smart move. AS to ORC A and his retarded posts I can give no sympathy either. As a diplomat image is everything. That is common sense. If Orc doesnÆt have control of the language he uses to talk to others with, then you need a new representative. nice post. severly biased whilst pathetically trying to maintain neutral and objective view. if bob was so intent on protecting whatever interest they may have in this, why did they not step in earlier? if their intention is stable south, why not step in when fix broke the southern union by setting sa at kos? furthermore if their agenda was peace and unity in south, why did they not come between the said parties and arranged so that a peaceful end would be reached? none of this have they done, instead they waited and waited, and i assume when fix begging become too much, they stepped in, laid ultimatums and threats on sa never taking into account sa views, this culminating months and months of biased, innuendo threating statements from bob members, most notably rkk and bnc members.. so pretty pls and sa aggression towards bob was just a pre-amptive strike since intelligence already stated bob intended to war dec sa anyways mere hours after sa beat em to it. if any diplomatic failures did occur they would be on bob side of the fence, since their attitude is the attitude of threats and ultimatums, not discussion.. and their intention are far from any stable south unity bull****, they in this to bully and lay terms on others cause they feel they can, simple as that First of all sir, you need to read my post more carefully. I never stated that BoB wanted a unified south. Countrary to that point I said that SA wanted a unified south. I merely stated that Bob was protecting its interests, (i.e Q region) This wasnt an issue before until you guys seemed to be getting really serious about destroying FIX, thus no reason for us to step in sooner. Secondly as for as your intel is concerned, it doesnt matter what it was. It makes no since for us to war dec when we are trying to make the peace. However, when you start demanding terms after deals have been made, you would have deserved every bit of that war dec. Regardless you shoot first and asked questions later. Not a smart move, because that means you SEALED your war.

Riley Craven	Posted - 2006.02.02 15:34:00 - [131] Originally by: Orc A Quote: If Orc doesnÆt have control of the language he uses to talk to others with, then you need a new representative. Well m8, English isn't My first language, but as you can see, you can understand what I'm writing now, can you not? Infact, English isn't even my Second language - it's my third. I agree completelly that a spellcheck was in order... However... Flaming someone for a language barrier is imo either childish or retarded. When i speak to people in this game, I'm assuming they are adult people that can understand such things... perhaps if i start treating people as if they were 10 year olds things will get better? Okey... okey... But you got to admit it will be REALLY funny to watch, eh? :p I am an adult, and I was not refering to your spelling. I was refering to your stupid drunken post at the start of this op. I can forgive spelling, but I can not forgive being drunk on the eve-o forums when you represent your allaince. Good day to you sir.
thebumbumsong	Posted - 2006.02.02 15:38:00 - [132] Edited by: thebumbumsong on 02/02/2006 15:38:56
R4d1o4ct1v3	Posted - 2006.02.02 15:59:00 - [133] Edited by: R4d1o4ct1v3 on 02/02/2006 16:01:03 Dear pilots of the eve universe. SA will kick your a*ses. Deal with it! Thank you. P.S. all you ppl judging ppl's spelling. OMG GET A LIFE! ------------------- DISCLAIMER: All opinions in this post are the opinions af a week old, half eaten sandwitch and do in no way reflect the opinions of anybody within a 10km radius of the Eiffel towe
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.02.02 16:13:00 - [134] If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed. You are a disgrace to our alliance. Sort yourselves the f* out. Originally by:** Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Grimster	Posted - 2006.02.02 16:44:00 - [135] Originally by: Dianabolic If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed. You are a disgrace to our alliance. Sort yourselves the f*** out. /me applauds.
Beringe	Posted - 2006.02.02 17:11:00 - [136] "What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." --Cool Hand Luke-- What a diplomatic disaster. It may just go down in EVE history as one of those "magic hat" moments. ------------------------------------------- Never underestimate the power of language.
Orc A	Posted - 2006.02.02 17:13:00 - [137] Much appreciated, Dian. Thank you. Respect.
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2006.02.02 17:23:00 - [138]
Creyster	Posted - 2006.02.02 17:37:00 - [139] Edited by: Creyster on 02/02/2006 17:37:35 Originally by: Gunstar Zero WTF!!!! if not Dian kills you i will..
Bedrock	Posted - 2006.02.02 17:53:00 - [140] Gunstar Zero: ROFL. In all honesty, it's not the spelling or grammar of ORC A's words or sentences, its the choice of words he uses. As a representative you need to choose your words carefully, that and you should make diplomatic relations before jumping the gun and war declaring an alliance.

Riley Craven	Posted - 2006.02.02 18:11:00 - [141] Originally by: Bedrock Gunstar Zero: ROFL. In all honesty, it's not the spelling or grammar of ORC A's words or sentences, its the choice of words he uses. As a representative you need to choose your words carefully, that and you should make diplomatic relations before jumping the gun and war declaring an alliance. What he said. ^
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.02.02 18:15:00 - [142] Originally by: Creyster Edited by: Creyster on 02/02/2006 17:37:35 Originally by: Gunstar Zero WTF!!!! if not Dian kills you i will.. See what I have to put up with? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Lama Zpiff	Posted - 2006.02.02 18:28:00 - [143] Originally by: Dianabolic If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed. You are a disgrace to our alliance. Sort yourselves the f*** out. Yeah! Way to go! BTW, that quote in your sig... wasn't it Ben Franklin who said that? Damn, now I'm gonna get podded... /LZ
Turin	Posted - 2006.02.02 18:43:00 - [144] Originally by: Soul Redemption Doesnt matter, the fact is hes still another person playing the game and deserves the minimum amount of respect from his fellow players. I'd like to see you ppl try and speak hebrew and see how'd you like it if i'd laugh my ass off when you make the smallest mistake with it. this game would be much better and much more welcoming, if ppl understood the term of basic respect for all players. This man speaks truth. Try and take it to heart.
dalman	Posted - 2006.02.02 18:59:00 - [145] Originally by: Lama Zpiff Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither. BTW, that quote in your sig... wasn't it Ben Franklin who said that? No idea, but somehow I feel it fits into this situation. Someone tell me how? Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin. Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.02.02 19:05:00 - [146] Originally by: Lama Zpiff Originally by: Dianabolic If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed. You are a disgrace to our alliance. Sort yourselves the f* out. Yeah! Way to go! BTW, that quote in your sig... wasn't it Ben Franklin who said that? Damn, now I'm gonna get podded... /LZ heh, click me Originally by:** Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither. http://www.reikoku.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56645#56645
thebumbumsong	Posted - 2006.02.02 19:18:00 - [147] Orc A made time news! just had too
GFLTorque	Posted - 2006.02.02 19:21:00 - [148] Originally by: Dianabolic If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed. Well said. You gotta respect BoB's class. And besides, there is a long standing rule from Platinum X, Lothar, Empresses, and Trigger that reads as follows: Rule 1A Sub Paragraph JMR-2021: To be honored as a leader of the Stain Alliance thou shalt spell poorly at every chance. Confusing your enemies as they seek to discover the true meaning of the missing vowel, and useless extra syntax. It's a time honored tradition. Besides Warp to pnlant V at 30cm was always a helluva lot more interesting.
Randay	Posted - 2006.02.02 20:00:00 - [149] Well he didnt exactly make it known that english was his third language. Also its been said many times that he could have easily ran his posts through a spellchecker. I also would like to say that I havent personally attacked his spelling or grammar, but I was thinking it, and whether its his third language or his first, it still effects his message. ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Bedrock	Posted - 2006.02.02 20:10:00 - [150] Originally by: thebumbumsong Orc A made time news! just had too another classic image.



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