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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:14:00 -
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Hello dear citizens of Eve.
Today i would like to state Some intentions of the SA, as there is alot of confusion around right now.
This mess started when Fix reset the SA to 0.0, making us KOS in a shared corridor.
Then, when they saw they are loosing, theyc alled in som friends, not to be named. Those firneds, apperantlly see us as slaves to thier word, or in other word, thier *****es.
The SA will not tolerate this.
No alliance will show up and tell us who we can and cannot fight, and who we need to nap and who we cannot.
Friends are Friends, and the day that a friend chooses to turn it's back for unknown reasons, is a sad day indeed.
Some diplomatical Fubar incidens have taken palce, but instead of allowing us to rectefy they wrongs, they choose to turn thier back.
So be it.
So, it seem's like SA's War for Independence and Pride is about to start.
 Quote:
To be the Best, you need to fight the best.
The SA are warriors, Proud warriors.
Death before Defeat.
-Orc A, on behalf of the SA.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:15:00 -
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Ah forum drama. What would eve be without it.
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Rael Anshak
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Ah forum drama. What would eve be without it.
ahh forum whoring, wut would RF do without it.
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SLIM
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Ah forum drama. What would eve be without it.
We would be mining veld and holding hands, singing 'Go Tell it on the Mountain'?
Are you guys going to invade Querious then? Your 'statement of intentions' is not really clear.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:17:00 -
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are you drunk?
Nemo me impune lacessit
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:18:00 -
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All I have to say is this is going to be one hell of a war. May the best group win.
/Mindlles will wet himself when he see's all this.
" Stay Frosty "
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sochin
are you drunk?
No, he is scared after our little conversation earlier.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:18:00 -
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I think Orc can't type that well but you get the point either way
Hear hear!
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Avernus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:20:00 -
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Quote:
Friends are Friends, and the day that a friend chooses to turn it's back for unknown reasons, is a sad day indeed.
/emote plucks another knife out of his back....
Here, I think this belongs to you.
Nuff said.
Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:20:00 -
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Is it really nessecary to flame a simple statement of intentions?
Orc chose not to name names but the above posters are doing a good job of rectifying that <_<
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Rattleshirt
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:21:00 -
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Sounds to me more like SA was about to die and needed something to do and a nice region to call their own.
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Sochin
are you drunk?
No, he is scared after our little conversation earlier.
Could you be more coc*ky? oh sorry its bob..
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Stratego
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Ah forum drama. What would eve be without it.
Yes, who needs Big Brother when we have the eve-o forums. 
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cuebick
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Sochin
are you drunk?
No, he is scared after our little conversation earlier.
Could you be more coc*ky? oh sorry its bob..
As a matter of fact, yes I can.
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Quaren
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Quote:
Friends are Friends, and the day that a friend chooses to turn it's back for unknown reasons, is a sad day indeed.
/emote plucks another knife out of his back....
Here, I think this belongs to you.
Nuff said.
Have you even played EVE in the last few months?
So you making us enemies(ok neutral but its the same thing in EVE) is us stabbing you in the back?
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Troubadour
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:29:00 -
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Bravo for spelling!
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Avernus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Quaren
Originally by: Avernus
Quote:
Friends are Friends, and the day that a friend chooses to turn it's back for unknown reasons, is a sad day indeed.
/emote plucks another knife out of his back....
Here, I think this belongs to you.
Nuff said.
Have you even played EVE in the last few months?
So you making us enemies(ok neutral but its the same thing in EVE) is us stabbing you in the back?
Have you played for the last two and a half years? I have a whole collection of knives that have been removed.
Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO
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Top Hat
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Top Hat on 31/01/2006 01:33:17
Errr, holy spelling errors batman. 
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:34:00 -
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No Fixions are to reply to this thread.
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:34:00 -
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*watches everyone wave their e-peen with amusement, before waving his own*
BAM! mine is bigger than yours!
http://www.chikens.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5385
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Quaren
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Quaren
Originally by: Avernus
Quote:
Friends are Friends, and the day that a friend chooses to turn it's back for unknown reasons, is a sad day indeed.
/emote plucks another knife out of his back....
Here, I think this belongs to you.
Nuff said.
Have you even played EVE in the last few months?
So you making us enemies(ok neutral but its the same thing in EVE) is us stabbing you in the back?
Have you played for the last two and a half years? I have a whole collection of knives that have been removed.
Who doesn't?
You stabbed us in the back and now BOB is aswell...
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:35:00 -
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I've said this before and I'm saying it again, English is not the 1st language for every eve player out there, show some decency and understand 
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:39:00 -
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I think it shows courage on Stain's part. Most other alliances would have taken Bob's "suggestion" to heart. To keep on fighting knowing that Bob will try to smack them around to keep them in line shows heart. GL SA.
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Quaren
Who doesn't?
You stabbed us in the back and now BOB is aswell...
BoB has not stabbed anyone in the back. Quite the contrary. Inquire of your alliance leader, Orc A as to what transpired.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 31/01/2006 01:42:54
Thumbs up for the right decision.
Much respect to SA, who in my eyes seems to have really improved.
Showing heart and true dedication and not bowing down to other alliances like so many entities do.
-G- Pink Power
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Stratosfear
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep
I think it shows courage on Stain's part. Most other alliances would have taken Bob's "suggestion" to heart. To keep on fighting knowing that Bob will try to smack them around to keep them in line shows heart. GL SA.
Agreed.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:46:00 -
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We offered an Alternative, Bob refused, Fix refused, Bob chose to muscle Us, we chose to say "Um.... Nope."
I didnt want to name any names but it seems obvious now.
Lock the thread pelase, nuff flamed.
statement was made clear and the involved parties understand the way things stand.
Thank you.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:47:00 -
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It's better to die a free man than to live as BoB's b**ch alliance *cough* /o/
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Man Upright
someone tell me what the following quote has in common with orc's post:
Quote:
"Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty. It is clear that the anti TTI effort has been led by Jade Constantine, who has been bought off by Evolution. We will start with a 100 million bounty on Jade Constantine with 100 million in bounties, paid for 5 mil ISK each for 20 corpses. TTI and SI and our friends will remain in Venal and we will openly attack all of the pro-Evolution people that have just voted against their one-time friends in TTI. If you wish to open relations, contact Jimmychopps now. Otherwise, you will be targeted. This is fair warning. Thank you."
SKITTLES FOR THE WINNER
There's a magic hat somewhere around here
" Stay Frosty "
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:55:00 -
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np
isk plz
vertu ¦µgur
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Avernus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Quaren
Originally by: Avernus
Have you played for the last two and a half years? I have a whole collection of knives that have been removed.
Who doesn't?
You stabbed us in the back and now BOB is aswell...
You missed the point, the knives I have were consistantly held by SA hands. Don't get me wrong, I don't have hard feelings about it, I just know what is likely to happen when you enter into an agreement with any level of faith. Nature of the beast and all that.
I've read all the logs involved for the cease fire, and then those of the 'talks' that followed. The cease fire agreement was very straight forward... new terms got brought to the table after, much to our surprise. We agreed to the original terms, not what was attempted to be rammed down our throats later.
If you have access to those logs (most of FIX does), I suggest you read them yourself. I personally find them hard to misinterpret.
Quote:
No Fixions are to reply to this thread.
Sry Tadis... I'll explain myself later.
Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO
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Reiken Moisark
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:05:00 -
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Is this thing on?
Knife is to back as Stain (Alliance Allaince Allin Empire Whatever) is to Xetic.
I like how you guys bring 3 alliances towards FIX and then cry when they bring ONE back at you. Wah.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:07:00 -
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Thats the diffrence, we don't Cry. we just say "Bring it".
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Lord Spidey
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:10:00 -
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Much respect to SA for sticking to their guns.
We support SA's cause with both our forum words and our guns in their cause.
G'luck to all 
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Avernus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Thats the diffrence, we don't Cry. we just say "Bring it".
From what I see.... Tis being brought. I'd be remiss if I didn't say it's pretty damn cool of them too.
Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO
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Paradox Eve
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:45:00 -
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All of this is very interesting. And it looks like it si going to be great fun. 
GL to everyone involved.
The Mind
FIX Alliance
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James Damar
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Posted - 2006.01.31 02:53:00 -
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Much respect for Stain to say "Bring it" in the face of a BoB threat. Very cool + actually a good thing, the fighting between FIX and Stain won't stop till one of them drops, to much distrust.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: James Damar
Much respect for Stain to say "Bring it" in the face of a BoB threat. Very cool + actually a good thing, the fighting between FIX and Stain won't stop till one of them drops, to much distrust.
Yea u know its kinda like that video clip of that guy who stands in front of that tank and is all like "omg stop joo guy!!!"
what they dont show u is seconds later the tank still runs him over
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Pant Alones
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:09:00 -
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Good decision SA 
Respect.
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Roxanna Kell
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:09:00 -
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i just wated time reading this.
what next?
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:10:00 -
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Wow, one minute SA is issueing the beat down on FIX and crushing them, the next minute SA is being picked on by FIX and thier "big brother". e-o forums 4tw.
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:18:00 -
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I mostly side with BOB on the forum because they recieve a lot of flack for being good.
On this topic though, it seemed as though FIX were getting beat down and needed BOB to come save them.
Respect to SA for not bowing under the pressure.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:31:00 -
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Really amusing stuff.
GL both sides.
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Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Deathwing
Originally by: James Damar
Much respect for Stain to say "Bring it" in the face of a BoB threat. Very cool + actually a good thing, the fighting between FIX and Stain won't stop till one of them drops, to much distrust.
Yea u know its kinda like that video clip of that guy who stands in front of that tank and is all like "omg stop joo guy!!!"
what they dont show u is seconds later the tank still runs him over
you're scary and i didnt want to know that , im gonna have nightmares now 
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:35:00 -
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Woot, Drama is always good!
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munkehdotnet
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:43:00 -
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my eyes hurt so i'm not reading(hence this being pointed out and me not picking up on it). but didn't SA call in huzzah first? among other friends i saw a Kaos empire dread jump into v2- about 2-3 weeks ago.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Man Upright
someone tell me what the following quote has in common with orc's post:
Quote:
"Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty. It is clear that the anti TTI effort has been led by Jade Constantine, who has been bought off by Evolution. We will start with a 100 million bounty on Jade Constantine with 100 million in bounties, paid for 5 mil ISK each for 20 corpses. TTI and SI and our friends will remain in Venal and we will openly attack all of the pro-Evolution people that have just voted against their one-time friends in TTI. If you wish to open relations, contact Jimmychopps now. Otherwise, you will be targeted. This is fair warning. Thank you."
SKITTLES FOR THE WINNER
There's a magic hat somewhere around here
I won the Magic Hat II bpo. They are even better then Ragnar's Basic Magic Hat I.
I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide. |
CopeLand
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Posted - 2006.01.31 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Deathwing
Originally by: James Damar
Much respect for Stain to say "Bring it" in the face of a BoB threat. Very cool + actually a good thing, the fighting between FIX and Stain won't stop till one of them drops, to much distrust.
Yea u know its kinda like that video clip of that guy who stands in front of that tank and is all like "omg stop joo guy!!!"
what they dont show u is seconds later the tank still runs him over
ye
SA= the tank
fix= the guy
bob= alien organism flying in from outerspace
i think this is amusing turn of event. why the alien flies all those miles to save the guy is bizarre, especially given the fact the guy was being*****y and ballsy.. saying die u ugly tank.
and i never thought i would say this.. but
go G/iron go...
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:09:00 -
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I have no authority, but why is SA responding to this crap. Orc made things clear, of sorts, and use the other thread.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:24:00 -
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I find this thread in respect to the previous "war's on!" thread quite amusing. Further more I approve of this thread and wish to suscribe to both the newsletter and subsequent Pay Per Post channel...
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2006.01.31 10:44:00 -
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zomg ive never had as much fun as watching this thing twist and turn. Who needs Soap Operas on TV when you got FIX versus Stain on the EVE-O forums
/me grabs a brew and settles down to watch it unfold
My Latest Vid (16/11/05) |
Elendar
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:07:00 -
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BoB force two naps with 'diplomacy' in an attempt to keep the war from spilling into their flank, it must have been rather odvious to you that they where going to be rather more direct about stabalising things after a while
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Have you played for the last two and a half years? I have a whole collection of knives that have been removed.
I know that you saw the irony before you posted this, yet you did anyway. Much love Av.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
*watches everyone wave their e-peen with amusement, before waving his own*
BAM! mine is bigger than yours!
http://www.chikens.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5385
Squirrel E-peen > Chickens epeen
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:55:00 -
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Nice one SA
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X'Akula
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Posted - 2006.01.31 12:17:00 -
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SA=4tw, BOB and fix and test of Bob's slaves=4tl
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Akula
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X'Akula
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Posted - 2006.01.31 12:19:00 -
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SA=4tw, BOB and fix and test of Bob's slaves=4tl
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Akula
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X'Akula
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Posted - 2006.01.31 12:19:00 -
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SA=4tw, BOB and fix and test of Bob's slaves=4tl
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Akula
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La FemmeFatal
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Posted - 2006.02.01 18:54:00 -
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Orc, man you are the funnist man in eve, priceless, really i mean it, well perhaps not as funny as backdoor bandit but hey you are 2nd at least.
The timing you have is second to none, Your abilty to make me laugh anew with every new sentence you say is diamond, nay pure class.
Love how you share your imagination with us and in it's child like form, is just so rare this days.
please tell me you are either George W Bush's alt or he yours? as the similarityĘs are just too many to log here.
Tell me will SA after the war with the entire south mean "STONE AGE" after? as i can see thats whats going to happen to you!
well thanks again and please keep them comming.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2006.02.01 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Eleese
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
*watches everyone wave their e-peen with amusement, before waving his own*
BAM! mine is bigger than yours!
http://www.chikens.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5385
Squirrel E-peen > Chickens epeen
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2663/squirrelnuts9ph.jpg
The size of his E-peen might be a problem in case he encounters a feet right in his E-peen
It's the feet that makes the difference in war Eleese !
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.02.01 19:33:00 -
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Shouldn't be doing posts like this when your enemy is drawing up battle plans, time lines, logistical requirements, etc...
"Tack on another 150 battleships and 2 months to the SA war." (Not a real quote just an example)
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: La FemmeFatal
Tell me will SA after the war with the entire south mean "STONE AGE" after? as i can see thats whats going to happen to you!
I think you meant STONE- AGE
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:53:00 -
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I have to say all of this is rather funny. Not for a long time has the suicide of an alliance in the public eye been so complete.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry to be honest 
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Erin Berth
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Posted - 2006.02.01 21:14:00 -
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respect SA...this will the most bloody war in eve for months. i think bob has way too much self-esteem and fix....ffs who cares about fix ?...step aside junior and let the big boys do the job !
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Selena Sellion
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Posted - 2006.02.01 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Galaxion
I have to say all of this is rather funny. Not for a long time has the suicide of an alliance in the public eye been so complete.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry to be honest
Whether you are right or wrong, your arrogance is breathtaking and will win you no friends.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2006.02.01 21:48:00 -
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Holy crap! Someone just said they'ed spotted
Ragnar outside the "Corporations and alliance forum"!
/LOWA
ps. Say what you want but drop the "you cant spell" replies ok.
NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003! |
HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2006.02.01 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: HC MasiEEE on 01/02/2006 21:58:12
tbh i only take Triggers post serious. I dont where they found you, Xetic perhaps ?
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Xelios
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 01/02/2006 22:21:47
Originally by: Galaxion
I have to say all of this is rather funny. Not for a long time has the suicide of an alliance in the public eye been so complete.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry to be honest
Suicide or not we held off on FIX once before already, only to be stabbed in the back by FIX days after the cease fire while BoB turned a blind eye. Not again. This time FIX doesn't get off with a simple "Ok you sort of win, for now", and if the cost of this is war with BoB then I look forward to some good fights.
The initial attack by SA was probably uncalled for, but no offense BoB you've been pressuring SA/Coalition/Whatever into corners regarding FIX for months now it had to end some time. If that means we all die many times over so be it, I'd rather lose assets than continue to have our alliance's sovereignty trampled by people with a grander agenda.
And no, none of that has anything to do with SA's views on any of this. It's my personal feelings and nothing more. Hell it's not even well informed feelings as I've been on a semi-break for the past couple months.
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected])
Woot.
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Elendar
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
The initial attack by SA was probably uncalled for, but no offense BoB you've been pressuring SA/Coalition/Whatever into corners regarding FIX for months now it had to end some time.
Soo instead of ignoring bob's warnings to not finish fix and pushing into querious some, you decided to invade bob and think this is a good move
interesting....
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Garnerius De'Nugent
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bedrock
Originally by: La FemmeFatal
Tell me will SA after the war with the entire south mean "STONE AGE" after? as i can see thats whats going to happen to you!
I think you meant STONE- AGE
and in turn, i think you meant STOEN- AGE
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all of you grab ur sanitary napkins, stfu and get back in ur eve kitchens and make me a pie
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:35:00 -
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Quote:
Further more I approve of this thread and wish to subscribe to both the newsletter and subsequent Pay Per Post channel
sure mate...the sub cost is 100 mil isk a week c/o dantes inferno :D
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Elendar
Soo instead of ignoring bob's warnings to not finish fix and pushing into querious some, you decided to invade bob and think this is a good move
interesting....
Its impressive just how far up BOB's ass you guys are! GG, you take brown nosing to a whole new level!
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Edited by: HC MasiEEE on 01/02/2006 21:58:12
tbh i only take Triggers post serious. I dont where they found you, Xetic perhaps ?
Lollers, and your from?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Unleashed
Originally by: Elendar
Soo instead of ignoring bob's warnings to not finish fix and pushing into querious some, you decided to invade bob and think this is a good move
interesting....
Its impressive just how far up BOB's ass you guys are! GG, you take brown nosing to a whole new level!
Classy, the next time I see you supporting an ally I must remember to ask how far up THEIR ass YOUR tongue is.
Would you remind me, please?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 01/02/2006 23:16:58
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Xelios
The initial attack by SA was probably uncalled for, but no offense BoB you've been pressuring SA/Coalition/Whatever into corners regarding FIX for months now it had to end some time.
Soo instead of ignoring bob's warnings to not finish fix and pushing into querious some, you decided to invade bob and think this is a good move
interesting....
"The initial attack by SA was probably uncalled for". Wow I wonder what that is?
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected])
Woot.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Wendat Huron on 01/02/2006 23:15:27
Originally by: Cuebick
I've said this before and I'm saying it again, English is not the 1st language for every eve player out there, show some decency and understand
In a game where english is the first language maybe you'd be wise to have a diplomat who have a grasp of the finer points of the language or at least can operate a spellcheck program.
I think it'd help the overall image of the alliance and add just a bit of dignity to the proclamations. This drunken town criar style obviously isn't working.
That being said it'd be nice to see SA take BoB down a notch.
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Classy, the next time I see you supporting an ally I must remember to ask how far up THEIR ass YOUR tongue is.
Would you remind me, please?
I doubt Ill remember to but as your so interested, feel free to watch every single post I make and then hammer out a witty reply when I do.
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>currently training to level 5: sexual tyrannosaurus / Rank 8 /
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:17:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Xelios
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Xelios
The initial attack by SA was probably uncalled for, but no offense BoB you've been pressuring SA/Coalition/Whatever into corners regarding FIX for months now it had to end some time.
Soo instead of ignoring bob's warnings to not finish fix and pushing into querious some, you decided to invade bob and think this is a good move
interesting....
It'd be even more interesting if you continued reading to the part where I said "The initial attack by SA was probably uncalled for". Maybe next time you should finish the post before hitting reply.
uncalled for? haha, good to know everyone in SA is in the loop of things, makes you wonder who exactly is calling the shot, oh wait....
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Xelios
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bedrock
Originally by: Xelios
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Xelios
The initial attack by SA was probably uncalled for, but no offense BoB you've been pressuring SA/Coalition/Whatever into corners regarding FIX for months now it had to end some time.
Soo instead of ignoring bob's warnings to not finish fix and pushing into querious some, you decided to invade bob and think this is a good move
interesting....
It'd be even more interesting if you continued reading to the part where I said "The initial attack by SA was probably uncalled for". Maybe next time you should finish the post before hitting reply.
uncalled for? haha, good to know everyone in SA is in the loop of things, makes you wonder who exactly is calling the shot, oh wait....
"Hell it's not even well informed feelings as I've been on a semi-break for the past couple months."
Do you people even read posts before you start writing your own?
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected])
Woot.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Unleashed
Originally by: Dianabolic
Classy, the next time I see you supporting an ally I must remember to ask how far up THEIR ass YOUR tongue is.
Would you remind me, please?
I doubt Ill remember to but as your so interested, feel free to watch every single post I make and then hammer out a witty reply when I do.
Ya know, I would do that, if a) you were worth it and b) if I thought there was any chance that you might reply with anything worthy of the bits required to transmit it across the intraweb.
But, as neither of those things will be true, I'll pass on the comittment, thanks, and just reply when I feel like it.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Esurnir
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Esurnir on 01/02/2006 23:43:00
Well, this is going to be interesting. Well, it's sad to see that many people fighting each other for diplomatic error.
I say good luck to Stain Alliance. Because you quite need it. Don't forget to stay cool minded. Don't let your litle personal pride take over politics. That's your weakness, fix it or fix will do it (sorry was too easy  ). I don't especially think you are going to suicide yourself. I respect your opinions, really you are a great alliance amongst those in eve. My advice to you is to reorganise yourself, do a good chain of command. Well Best luck.
To fix, well I know you too less. But I think that on your case, your request for freighter is quite legitimate. As a carebear I can understand the need of big cargo ;) . I tried to contact you to know more about the catch politics but I fear now to get too much partial opinions.
To bob, you are allready at a ratio of 2:1, ease a bit on the gun ;). I don't know you, I only know my corpsmate definitivly got a bad opinion from you ^^. But I'm a carebear, no opinion atm else that what I seen. So I still wish you best luck in your actual and future campaign.
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Selena Sellion
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:43:00 -
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Can I just say a massive LOL WELL DONE to "The Max" of SA for his smartbombing antics
Check the BoB loss board to see what I mean. He got like 8 frigs (and most of the pods) including 5 inties and an AF with his L. Smartbombing geddon in one fight (and survived) :P Thats got to be an implant or two.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Selena Sellion
Can I just say a massive LOL WELL DONE to "The Max" of SA for his smartbombing antics
Check the BoB loss board to see what I mean. He got like 8 frigs (and most of the pods) including 5 inties and an AF with his L. Smartbombing geddon in one fight (and survived) :P Thats got to be an implant or two.
You may now follow that up by posting with your main and refering also to the "kills" section of our board as well
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Selena Sellion
Can I just say a massive LOL WELL DONE to "The Max" of SA for his smartbombing antics
Check the BoB loss board to see what I mean. He got like 8 frigs (and most of the pods) including 5 inties and an AF with his L. Smartbombing geddon in one fight (and survived) :P Thats got to be an implant or two.
I'll tell heikki there is a cheap immitation of him running around, he wont be happy
" Stay Frosty "
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.02 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Selena Sellion
Can I just say a massive LOL WELL DONE to "The Max" of SA for his smartbombing antics
Check the BoB loss board to see what I mean. He got like 8 frigs (and most of the pods) including 5 inties and an AF with his L. Smartbombing geddon in one fight (and survived) :P Thats got to be an implant or two.
Jump clones are indeed your friend, for any of our pilots that go on a frig gang with them in their head deserve to lose them or have too much money to start with.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Selena Sellion
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Posted - 2006.02.02 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: Selena Sellion on 02/02/2006 00:15:10
Originally by: Deathwing
Originally by: Selena Sellion
Can I just say a massive LOL WELL DONE to "The Max" of SA for his smartbombing antics
Check the BoB loss board to see what I mean. He got like 8 frigs (and most of the pods) including 5 inties and an AF with his L. Smartbombing geddon in one fight (and survived) :P Thats got to be an implant or two.
You may now follow that up by posting with your main and refering also to the "kills" section of our board as well
If you read your past posts you can work out my main and why Im not posting with him. Im neutral in this event but I still find kills like that funny.
What do your kills have to do with the humour of a smartbombing geddon pwning most of an inty fleet? Jesus cant you EVER drop the smacksiphone?
I wasnt flaming BoB, just pointing out a fun/cool kill
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.02 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Elendar
From Stains own killboard
Pilot statistics for all time
Top Allied Pilot (Losses): Orc A (67)
Looks like a great choice for your leader :p
still at least he's not afraid to get stuck in
Not a good stat to use tbh, look at Shrikes losses :D
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.02 01:04:00 -
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"Not a good stat to use tbh, look at Shrikes losses :D"
There's good reason why Shrike had "insured" in the old sig... ;s
re: the original announcement, that's a bit of disappointment to be honest. I mean, you have pretty much two friends duking it out for whatever perceived insults, false of real. A mutual friend is watching it, but steps in when it looks like one is about to kill the other and tells them to stop.... and then the one being stopped starts screaming "AM NOT YOUR ***** AND YOU WON'T BE TELLING ME WHAT TO DO" and goes into fight with the one who was trying to keep things semi-sane.
Can see why G et all would be sitting in the corner with wide grins and the "gg, keep it up, no one tells you what to do guys, don't think, keep waving these balls, they're huuuuge" commentary, though. If there's anyone who really benefits from it, it's them after all.
Oh well, business as usual i guess...
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.02 01:39:00 -
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telling only half a story is always fun, isn't it?
How about mentioning that it only happend after a very rude (on bob's side) TS Conversation at the end of which i could only Conclude that bob was about to attack....
What would you have done if you were us? sit tight and let you have the first strike?
pffft.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.02 01:48:00 -
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"What would you have done if you were us? sit tight and let you have the first strike?"
Provided it makes a difference between appearing like hot-headed fool reacting to what he thinks might happen, and unjustly wronged victim of the big bad BoB?
yes.
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Selena Sellion
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Posted - 2006.02.02 01:51:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Orc A
telling only half a story is always fun, isn't it?
How about mentioning that it only happend after a very rude (on bob's side) TS Conversation at the end of which i could only Conclude that bob was about to attack....
What would you have done if you were us? sit tight and let you have the first strike?
pffft.
Youd have a lot more friendly alliances if youd done it that way.
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Amrotis
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Posted - 2006.02.02 01:59:00 -
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2006.02.02 02:01:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Orc A
Hello dear citizens of Eve.
Today i would like to state Some intentions of the SA, as there is alot of confusion around right now.
Originally by: Orc A
This mess started when Fix reset the SA to 0.0, making us KOS in a shared corridor.
Attacking a Fix pilot in a shared corridor = a drop in standing.
Originally by: Orc A
Then, when they saw they are loosing, theyc alled in som friends, not to be named. Those firneds, apperantlly see us as slaves to thier word, or in other word, thier *****es.
It sucks having friends you get along with doesn't it
Originally by: Orc A
The SA will not tolerate this.
No alliance will show up and tell us who we can and cannot fight, and who we need to nap and who we cannot.
Friends are Friends, and the day that a friend chooses to turn it's back for unknown reasons, is a sad day indeed.
Not sure about the telling of who you can play with but it seems you don't 100% get along with all your neighbors
Originally by: Orc A
Some diplomatical Fubar incidens have taken palce, but instead of allowing us to rectefy they wrongs, they choose to turn thier back.
So be it.
/me seems like some diplomatic process gone ary... hmmmm
Originally by: Orc A
So, it seem's like SA's War for Independence and Pride is about to start.
Quote:
To be the Best, you need to fight the best.
The SA are warriors, Proud warriors.
Death before Defeat.
Independence is a good cause.
I hear alot about aggressors in the south but from what I have witnessed FIX outside of SA/SE has only attacked one other alliance (FE) out of aggression. With SA its only bad blood that has yet to pass from the system.
History of SA/SE/Colition has shown FIX and SA dont get along and it dates from way back. A bit of blood letting along the border is one thing but either group thinking they can elimiate each other from home systems is another story..
I think ppl look to the past to see who was more aggressive in politics and who is best keeping a unity.
Originally by: Orc A
-Orc A, on behalf of the SA.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.02 02:16:00 -
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Ouch, re-reading my post makes me wanna punch myself for not typing the damn thing in a Word window before posting it (typos 4tl).
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.02.02 02:48:00 -
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This South against North crap really has to go. Why should you have to fly 60 jumps to end up in a mega blob the servers can't handle anyway? The powerblocks it creates are boring as hell.
Why should SA fear anybody? When your opponent is better you can only learn from him.
SA only has to fear it's own player basis. As long as they are having fun SA simply can't be beaten. SA flew up to NOL to show BLOB they wouldn't take anymore of there dictating crap regardless the consequenses. A very "Bold" move indeed.
SA now finds out who they can trust and who not. Tribal souls, who will suck up anybody and anything just to keep on to their 'prescious'and Huzzah dropped SA within 24 hours. ASCN will not lift a finger to help SA. They keep as quiet as a mouse. They are in for the left overs.
However this ends SA will walk out proud. They are the moral winners who can't be beaten. Kudos to them. I salute you.
Greetz, Alba.
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Trakh Shardan
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Posted - 2006.02.02 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
*watches everyone wave their e-peen with amusement, before waving his own*
BAM! mine is bigger than yours!
http://www.chikens.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5385
HA chickens donmt have large e-peens
*slaps his e-peen is FPC its face*
there have that my e-peen is WAY bigger then yours
oh and yeah SA have balls give em some credit !!!
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.02.02 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: ORC A
Some diplomatical Fubar incidens have taken palce, but instead of allowing us to rectefy they wrongs, they choose to turn thier back.
So be it.
You just admitted to failure, one of the worst kind I might add. Attacking the people you just spoke to diplomatically sounds a lot like turning your back on not only diplomacy but your word.
You could have rectified very easily and very quickly. Compensate any losses, apologize, and remove the offending parties from your alliance. You failed yet again, and you expect to be treated with patience?
Pssh, I like Trigger, and most of MASS but SA deserves a good slapping for letting people like you in a leadership position
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2006.02.02 04:11:00 -
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Rock on SA. You guys said from the beginning that you weren't going to put up with crap.
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shivan
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Posted - 2006.02.02 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Amrotis
I will follow this up with a simple
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Avec Freedom
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Posted - 2006.02.02 04:37:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Deathwing
Originally by: Selena Sellion
Can I just say a massive LOL WELL DONE to "The Max" of SA for his smartbombing antics
Check the BoB loss board to see what I mean. He got like 8 frigs (and most of the pods) including 5 inties and an AF with his L. Smartbombing geddon in one fight (and survived) :P Thats got to be an implant or two.
You may now follow that up by posting with your main and refering also to the "kills" section of our board as well
Yes Selena = Llante(sp?) who is banned.
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2006.02.02 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: SaorAlba
This South against North crap really has to go. Why should you have to fly 60 jumps to end up in a mega blob the servers can't handle anyway? The powerblocks it creates are boring as hell.
Why should SA fear anybody? When your opponent is better you can only learn from him.
SA only has to fear it's own player basis. As long as they are having fun SA simply can't be beaten. SA flew up to NOL to show BLOB they wouldn't take anymore of there dictating crap regardless the consequenses. A very "Bold" move indeed.
SA now finds out who they can trust and who not. Tribal souls, who will suck up anybody and anything just to keep on to their 'prescious'and Huzzah dropped SA within 24 hours. ASCN will not lift a finger to help SA. They keep as quiet as a mouse. They are in for the left overs.
However this ends SA will walk out proud. They are the moral winners who can't be beaten. Kudos to them. I salute you.
Greetz, Alba.
Impressive post, maybe on of the best i ever read here.
That makes me proud to share the same TS - Server, alba 
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Riley Craven
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Posted - 2006.02.02 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: ORC A
Some diplomatical Fubar incidens have taken palce, but instead of allowing us to rectefy they wrongs, they choose to turn thier back.
So be it.
You just admitted to failure, one of the worst kind I might add. Attacking the people you just spoke to diplomatically sounds a lot like turning your back on not only diplomacy but your word.
You could have rectified very easily and very quickly. Compensate any losses, apologize, and remove the offending parties from your alliance. You failed yet again, and you expect to be treated with patience?
Pssh, I like Trigger, and most of MASS but SA deserves a good slapping for letting people like you in a leadership position
You could even take this one step further. I read somewhere that all SA wanted was a unified South. Since when does unity involve violence? Last time I checked if you wanted unity you do not do it with guns. (Cuse hey you might win in the end, but the people you enslave will be a pain in your butt for as long as you rule)
I am unimpressed with all of the people giving SA kudos for standing up. As a diplomat you should have realized that all 3 alliances have stakes here. It was in BOBs best interest to ensure the peace regardless of how you may have taken it. Bob wasnt pushing its weight around just because they could, Bob was doing what any good alliance would, protecting its own interests.
To tell us to F*$* off just because your ego is as big as your stupidity does not seem like a smart move.
AS to ORC A and his retarded posts I can give no sympathy either. As a diplomat image is everything. That is common sense. If Orc doesnĘt have control of the language he uses to talk to others with, then you need a new representative.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.02 05:06:00 -
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"This South against North crap really has to go. Why should you have to fly 60 jumps to end up in a mega blob the servers can't handle anyway? The powerblocks it creates are boring as hell."
You're perfectly right; and just look how you G guys up north know how to have your fun, and set the right example. There's no day in week when you aren't busy shooting IRON, NBSI, PA-
oh, wait.
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CopeLand
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Posted - 2006.02.02 05:24:00 -
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Edited by: CopeLand on 02/02/2006 05:25:42
Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: ORC A
Some diplomatical Fubar incidens have taken palce, but instead of allowing us to rectefy they wrongs, they choose to turn thier back.
So be it.
You just admitted to failure, one of the worst kind I might add. Attacking the people you just spoke to diplomatically sounds a lot like turning your back on not only diplomacy but your word.
You could have rectified very easily and very quickly. Compensate any losses, apologize, and remove the offending parties from your alliance. You failed yet again, and you expect to be treated with patience?
Pssh, I like Trigger, and most of MASS but SA deserves a good slapping for letting people like you in a leadership position
You could even take this one step further. I read somewhere that all SA wanted was a unified South. Since when does unity involve violence? Last time I checked if you wanted unity you do not do it with guns. (Cuse hey you might win in the end, but the people you enslave will be a pain in your butt for as long as you rule)
I am unimpressed with all of the people giving SA kudos for standing up. As a diplomat you should have realized that all 3 alliances have stakes here. It was in BOBs best interest to ensure the peace regardless of how you may have taken it. Bob wasnt pushing its weight around just because they could, Bob was doing what any good alliance would, protecting its own interests.
To tell us to F*$* off just because your ego is as big as your stupidity does not seem like a smart move.
AS to ORC A and his retarded posts I can give no sympathy either. As a diplomat image is everything. That is common sense. If Orc doesnĘt have control of the language he uses to talk to others with, then you need a new representative.
nice post. severly biased whilst pathetically trying to maintain neutral and objective view.
if bob was so intent on protecting whatever interest they may have in this, why did they not step in earlier?
if their intention is stable south, why not step in when fix broke the southern union by setting sa at kos?
furthermore if their agenda was peace and unity in south, why did they not come between the said parties and arranged so that a peaceful end would be reached?
none of this have they done, instead they waited and waited, and i assume when fix begging become too much, they stepped in, laid ultimatums and threats on sa never taking into account sa views, this culminating months and months of biased, innuendo threating statements from bob members, most notably rkk and bnc members..
so pretty pls
and sa aggression towards bob was just a pre-amptive strike since intelligence already stated bob intended to war dec sa anyways mere hours after sa beat em to it.
if any diplomatic failures did occur they would be on bob side of the fence, since their attitude is the attitude of threats and ultimatums, not discussion.. and their intention are far from any stable south unity bull****, they in this to bully and lay terms on others cause they feel they can, simple as that
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.02.02 05:26:00 -
[105]
The answer is in your reply Josephine.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.02 05:31:00 -
[106]
"The answer is in your reply Josephine."
Does it mean we can expect some war decs from G on their near neighbours, in close future? With ones that didn't just recently ally themselves with guests from south, since that'd be only reinforcing the whole south-north split yet again? ^^
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Calderio
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Posted - 2006.02.02 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cuebick
I've said this before and I'm saying it again, English is not the 1st language for every eve player out there, show some decency and understand
when making a offical makes a release he/she/it should use spell check to make sure that his/her/its point it made clear. misspelled words lead to confusion and bleeding eyes, also a loss of dignitas on the forums and ingame.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.02.02 06:21:00 -
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Stop bashing Orc A, he is great at what he does. Hey Orc, when you are done with SA send me an eve mail, I got a couple other alliances I need you to wipe off the face of eve.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.02.02 07:04:00 -
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Quote:
With SA its only bad blood that has yet to pass from the system.
now i wont comment on this as a whole..well people in sa will know why...but i will make a comment on this which may make it plain why the bad blood can not pass, and why sa have reacted in the way they did..to do this we have to go back to may/june last year and the coalition/fix war
during this time i had just moved from sge to mass and was in a empire war with FA when we heard fix had invaded catch..so the coalition gathers and moves to fat to attack fix..needles to say we drive fix out of fat and in to querious (what would of happened in q is of no importance as all that can be argued is what ifs) here bob but in and force a cease fire..to say a lot of people were unhappy would be an understatment..but peave was achieve though many..myself included hated fix.
3/4 months later the sa/se civil war was proclaimed, all se systems were contested by sa..se gives fat to fix..who accept it..claiimng that it was not a civil war so it was ok..this ofc was a load of rubbish..resenmtent of fix grows to a new high..but in intrest of peace in the south..SA decides not to challenge the claim and let fix keep catch
then we go to the Iron/G war where these entitys with razor attack sa because mass were executor..fix come to help for one or 2 night..a lot of sa start to reconsider their attitude to fix..thinking that prehapes we missjuged them, the war continues with iron and g attacking ascn, SA then prepare to aid ascn..mass moves to azn for a week, sa on the whole musters in 4gq to attack the g station in estoria. at this poin FIX set us to 0.0 over incidents no one in sa had been approached over before...incident which could of been dealt with in a diplomatic way..now we continue to focus on iron and g for a while up tio rmr where they went home. after this a lot of sa concentrated on making isk waiting for the patch to stablise, at 02/01/06 we moved in en mass to attack fix...finaly we take catch and start to move on to q..when bob interfere, now i wont comment on the rest of this..just to say a lot of things could of been avoided...now the problem a lot of sa had is..even if we have another peae? what will stop fix attacking us yet again in the future..twice no they have done it and each time they become under threat bob save them...so if bob were truly interested in peace in the south and not keeping q safe for themselves they would of stoped fix in starting this with SA in the first place..and that where a lot of the fustration on sa part lies..we know that in the future bob would allow fix to attack us again (as they have done 2) and interfere when we counter attack..if bob stoped fix from starting these wars there would be no problem.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2006.02.02 07:13:00 -
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BOldMan
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Posted - 2006.02.02 07:33:00 -
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Oh, stop spinning.
War != Unity south.
Bad diplomacy, bad pearsons involved. Jettison the crap pls.
And finnaly if your enemies are congrat that means you have done a stupid move.
Originally by: Treacle Shazboat
Trying to buy from the market. The buy window is blank. Try to send a petition dropped me to the desktop.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.02 08:13:00 -
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Quote:
If Orc doesnĘt have control of the language he uses to talk to others with, then you need a new representative.
Well m8, English isn't My first language, but as you can see, you can understand what I'm writing now, can you not?
Infact, English isn't even my Second language - it's my third.
I agree completelly that a spellcheck was in order...
However... Flaming someone for a language barrier is imo either childish or retarded.
When i speak to people in this game, I'm assuming they are adult people that can understand such things... perhaps if i start treating people as if they were 10 year olds things will get better?
Okey... okey... But you got to admit it will be REALLY funny to watch, eh? :p
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Hardin
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Posted - 2006.02.02 08:16:00 -
[113]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: ORC A
Some diplomatical Fubar incidens have taken palce, but instead of allowing us to rectefy they wrongs, they choose to turn thier back.
So be it.
You just admitted to failure, one of the worst kind I might add. Attacking the people you just spoke to diplomatically sounds a lot like turning your back on not only diplomacy but your word.
You could have rectified very easily and very quickly. Compensate any losses, apologize, and remove the offending parties from your alliance. You failed yet again, and you expect to be treated with patience?
Pssh, I like Trigger, and most of MASS but SA deserves a good slapping for letting people like you in a leadership position
100% right...
Trigger, come join the CVA, shoot Minnies/Pirates and leave the stress behind
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2006.02.02 08:24:00 -
[114]
Originally by: dantes inferno
so if bob were truly interested in peace in the south and not keeping q safe for themselves they would of stoped fix in starting this with SA in the first place..and that where a lot of the fustration on sa part lies..we know that in the future bob would allow fix to attack us again (as they have done 2) and interfere when we counter attack..if bob stoped fix from starting these wars there would be no problem.
My CEO answered that one here: clicky
We won't babysit every neighbouring alliance in all details, that would be meddling in others business like you say we have been doing now.
When two neighbours we both are allied with are not able to sort out their issues by themselves we tell them to play nice, keep what they have earned in battles, cease hostilities and work out a deal.
Both Orc A's diplomatic negotation and SA actions show SA did not want a deal. You got what you wanted.
Anything else is disinformation.
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2006.02.02 08:27:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Orc A
I agree completelly that a spellcheck was in order...
However... Flaming someone for a language barrier is imo either childish or retarded.
Only thing I agree with you on.
As long as it's readable (and somewhat spellchecked) it's ok.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.02 08:28:00 -
[116]
No my friend, what YOU say is disinformation.
You were not present on the TS server, you were not part of the talks, hence, you have no place saying what SA wanted or did not want.
Speculations are fun, but when speculating, it's important to state so... otherwise people might get offended :)
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.02 08:29:00 -
[117]
Quote:
Only thing I agree with you on.
Ah!
Someone that sees reason through madness! thank you :)
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2006.02.02 09:37:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Orc A
No my friend, what YOU say is disinformation.
You were not present on the TS server, you were not part of the talks, hence, you have no place saying what SA wanted or did not want.
Speculations are fun, but when speculating, it's important to state so... otherwise people might get offended :)
Do continue with your efforts to twist around what happened.
Good thing I have you to tell me the info I've seen from BoB's in charge on this all were a fake.
It was already covered in one of the other threads that you came up with new demands in the last minute. Making it impossible for the other part to agree and then quickly doing this is a sign of wanting to reach an agreement?
I take it the later SA visit in our space was an appreciation of our mediation efforts and our 1+ year long friendship. ?
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.02 09:50:00 -
[119]
Okey, this is really pointless... My info is first hand and yours is second (at best).
So, if you wont listen now, you wont listen... ever.
I'm just gonna remove eve-o forums from my favourites now.
good day :D
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budy
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Posted - 2006.02.02 10:00:00 -
[120]
Edited by: budy on 02/02/2006 10:00:45
Originally by: Orc A
I'm just gonna remove eve-o forums from my favourites now.
Wow - you really are a diplomatic genius. Where did you train? Iran?
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.02.02 10:05:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Orc A
I'm just gonna remove eve-o forums from my favourites now.
BRILLIANT!
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2006.02.02 10:08:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Orc A
Okey, this is really pointless... My info is first hand and yours is second (at best).
So, if you wont listen now, you wont listen... ever.
I'm just gonna remove eve-o forums from my favourites now.
good day :D
yes, forget it happened for a month or two and see if the problem goes away.
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Soul Redemption
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Posted - 2006.02.02 10:13:00 -
[123]
Why are there idiots in this thread flaming him for spelling?
you ppl are really ****s english is not his native tounge and he speaks and writes just fine.
lay off the issue of spelling and focus on the statment.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.02.02 10:30:00 -
[124]
You know how Bush comes off as an idiot because of his bad english and grammar? Its the same thing. Critisizing someone for thier bad english is valid when they are a diplomat, it makes it hard to interpret thier messages, especially on the internet where its all just text and all you have is your spelling, grammar, and choice of words.
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Soul Redemption
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Posted - 2006.02.02 10:43:00 -
[125]
Doesnt matter, the fact is hes still another person playing the game and deserves the minimum amount of respect from his fellow players.
I'd like to see you ppl try and speak hebrew and see how'd you like it if i'd laugh my ass off when you make the smallest mistake with it.
this game would be much better and much more welcoming, if ppl understood the term of basic respect for all players.
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2006.02.02 11:06:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Ku'Gras
When two neighbours we both are allied with are not able to sort out their issues by themselves we tell them to play nice, keep what they have earned in battles, cease hostilities and work out a deal.
Correction, you can advise your neighbours on what to do. As evidenced, some of those neighbours don't like to be told how to behave - hence the really messy situation we have now. Only time will tell if what all parties concerned made the right choice.
Good luck to all and especially the mods, can't say their job has been easy these past few days
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Macsine
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Posted - 2006.02.02 11:24:00 -
[127]
Have a nice vacation Orc A. Your attention here isn't really needed you made your point quiet clear:
Quote:
Whilst the border incidents and the tactical weight of the region played an important part in deteriorating relations between both parties, Pebbledasher thinks that the Stain- Alliance "covets FIX territory", going even further to say that, "their avarice has lead ... to initiate, what in their minds always was, an acquisitive conflict." This allegation is not completely refuted by Orc A, who justifies their action: "It's time for more cooperative members to reside in Querious", with the long term objective being the complete termination of the Firmus Ixion alliance.
Or read the whole original statement
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Mag's
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Posted - 2006.02.02 11:26:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Randay
You know how Bush comes off as an idiot because of his bad english and grammar? Its the same thing. Critisizing someone for thier bad english is valid when they are a diplomat, it makes it hard to interpret thier messages, especially on the internet where its all just text and all you have is your spelling, grammar, and choice of words.
I'm sorry but your analogy is incorrect.
Orc A has stated that English is his THIRD language, whereas Mr Bush has American English as his FIRST language, hence the ridicule.
Now people may not agree with Orc A, but to put him down and call him names because of a few spelling errors, is, quite frankly, poor judgement on thier part not his.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.02.02 12:43:00 -
[129]
Quote:
Now people may not agree with Orc A, but to put him down and call him names because of a few spelling errors, is, quite frankly, poor judgement on thier part not his
i wonder how much of those flamming orc for his spelling would be able to write perfectly in their 3rd language? let those without sin cast the first stone.
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Posted - 2006.02.02 15:32:00 -
[130]
Originally by: CopeLand
Edited by: CopeLand on 02/02/2006 05:25:42
Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: ORC A
Some diplomatical Fubar incidens have taken palce, but instead of allowing us to rectefy they wrongs, they choose to turn thier back.
So be it.
You just admitted to failure, one of the worst kind I might add. Attacking the people you just spoke to diplomatically sounds a lot like turning your back on not only diplomacy but your word.
You could have rectified very easily and very quickly. Compensate any losses, apologize, and remove the offending parties from your alliance. You failed yet again, and you expect to be treated with patience?
Pssh, I like Trigger, and most of MASS but SA deserves a good slapping for letting people like you in a leadership position
You could even take this one step further. I read somewhere that all SA wanted was a unified South. Since when does unity involve violence? Last time I checked if you wanted unity you do not do it with guns. (Cuse hey you might win in the end, but the people you enslave will be a pain in your butt for as long as you rule)
I am unimpressed with all of the people giving SA kudos for standing up. As a diplomat you should have realized that all 3 alliances have stakes here. It was in BOBs best interest to ensure the peace regardless of how you may have taken it. Bob wasnt pushing its weight around just because they could, Bob was doing what any good alliance would, protecting its own interests.
To tell us to F*$* off just because your ego is as big as your stupidity does not seem like a smart move.
AS to ORC A and his retarded posts I can give no sympathy either. As a diplomat image is everything. That is common sense. If Orc doesnĘt have control of the language he uses to talk to others with, then you need a new representative.
nice post. severly biased whilst pathetically trying to maintain neutral and objective view.
if bob was so intent on protecting whatever interest they may have in this, why did they not step in earlier?
if their intention is stable south, why not step in when fix broke the southern union by setting sa at kos?
furthermore if their agenda was peace and unity in south, why did they not come between the said parties and arranged so that a peaceful end would be reached?
none of this have they done, instead they waited and waited, and i assume when fix begging become too much, they stepped in, laid ultimatums and threats on sa never taking into account sa views, this culminating months and months of biased, innuendo threating statements from bob members, most notably rkk and bnc members..
so pretty pls
and sa aggression towards bob was just a pre-amptive strike since intelligence already stated bob intended to war dec sa anyways mere hours after sa beat em to it.
if any diplomatic failures did occur they would be on bob side of the fence, since their attitude is the attitude of threats and ultimatums, not discussion.. and their intention are far from any stable south unity bull****, they in this to bully and lay terms on others cause they feel they can, simple as that
First of all sir, you need to read my post more carefully. I never stated that BoB wanted a unified south. Countrary to that point I said that SA wanted a unified south.
I merely stated that Bob was protecting its interests, (i.e Q region) This wasnt an issue before until you guys seemed to be getting really serious about destroying FIX, thus no reason for us to step in sooner.
Secondly as for as your intel is concerned, it doesnt matter what it was. It makes no since for us to war dec when we are trying to make the peace. However, when you start demanding terms after deals have been made, you would have deserved every bit of that war dec. Regardless you shoot first and asked questions later. Not a smart move, because that means you SEALED your war.
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Riley Craven
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Posted - 2006.02.02 15:34:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Orc A
Quote:
If Orc doesnĘt have control of the language he uses to talk to others with, then you need a new representative.
Well m8, English isn't My first language, but as you can see, you can understand what I'm writing now, can you not?
Infact, English isn't even my Second language - it's my third.
I agree completelly that a spellcheck was in order...
However... Flaming someone for a language barrier is imo either childish or retarded.
When i speak to people in this game, I'm assuming they are adult people that can understand such things... perhaps if i start treating people as if they were 10 year olds things will get better?
Okey... okey... But you got to admit it will be REALLY funny to watch, eh? :p
I am an adult, and I was not refering to your spelling. I was refering to your stupid drunken post at the start of this op. I can forgive spelling, but I can not forgive being drunk on the eve-o forums when you represent your allaince. Good day to you sir.
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thebumbumsong
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Posted - 2006.02.02 15:38:00 -
[132]
Edited by: thebumbumsong on 02/02/2006 15:38:56
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R4d1o4ct1v3
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Posted - 2006.02.02 15:59:00 -
[133]
Edited by: R4d1o4ct1v3 on 02/02/2006 16:01:03
Dear pilots of the eve universe.
SA will kick your a*ses. Deal with it!
Thank you.
P.S. all you ppl judging ppl's spelling. OMG GET A LIFE!
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.02 16:13:00 -
[134]
If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed.
You are a disgrace to our alliance.
Sort yourselves the f*** out.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2006.02.02 16:44:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed.
You are a disgrace to our alliance.
Sort yourselves the f*** out.
/me applauds.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.02.02 17:11:00 -
[136]
"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men."
--Cool Hand Luke--
What a diplomatic disaster. It may just go down in EVE history as one of those "magic hat" moments.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.02 17:13:00 -
[137]
Much appreciated, Dian.
Thank you.
Respect.
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2006.02.02 17:23:00 -
[138]
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Creyster
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Posted - 2006.02.02 17:37:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Creyster on 02/02/2006 17:37:35
Originally by: Gunstar Zero
WTF!!!! if not Dian kills you i will..
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.02.02 17:53:00 -
[140]
Gunstar Zero: ROFL.
In all honesty, it's not the spelling or grammar of ORC A's words or sentences, its the choice of words he uses. As a representative you need to choose your words carefully, that and you should make diplomatic relations before jumping the gun and war declaring an alliance.
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Riley Craven
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:11:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Bedrock
Gunstar Zero: ROFL.
In all honesty, it's not the spelling or grammar of ORC A's words or sentences, its the choice of words he uses. As a representative you need to choose your words carefully, that and you should make diplomatic relations before jumping the gun and war declaring an alliance.
What he said. ^
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:15:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Creyster
Edited by: Creyster on 02/02/2006 17:37:35
Originally by: Gunstar Zero
WTF!!!! if not Dian kills you i will..
See what I have to put up with?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Lama Zpiff
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:28:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed.
You are a disgrace to our alliance.
Sort yourselves the f*** out.
Yeah! Way to go!
BTW, that quote in your sig... wasn't it Ben Franklin who said that?
Damn, now I'm gonna get podded...
/LZ
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Turin
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:43:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Soul Redemption
Doesnt matter, the fact is hes still another person playing the game and deserves the minimum amount of respect from his fellow players.
I'd like to see you ppl try and speak hebrew and see how'd you like it if i'd laugh my ass off when you make the smallest mistake with it.
this game would be much better and much more welcoming, if ppl understood the term of basic respect for all players.
This man speaks truth. Try and take it to heart.
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:59:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Lama Zpiff
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
BTW, that quote in your sig... wasn't it Ben Franklin who said that?
No idea, but somehow I feel it fits into this situation. Someone tell me how?
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.02 19:05:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Lama Zpiff
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed.
You are a disgrace to our alliance.
Sort yourselves the f*** out.
Yeah! Way to go!
BTW, that quote in your sig... wasn't it Ben Franklin who said that?
Damn, now I'm gonna get podded...
/LZ
heh, click me
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
http://www.reikoku.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56645#56645 |
thebumbumsong
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Posted - 2006.02.02 19:18:00 -
[147]
Orc A made time news!
just had too
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GFLTorque
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Posted - 2006.02.02 19:21:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I see another BoB pilot criticising someones grammar, spelling or diction on these forums, regardless of whether english is their primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever language, I will pod you myself before having you removed.
Well said. You gotta respect BoB's class.
And besides, there is a long standing rule from Platinum X, Lothar, Empresses, and Trigger that reads as follows:
Rule 1A Sub Paragraph JMR-2021: To be honored as a leader of the Stain Alliance thou shalt spell poorly at every chance. Confusing your enemies as they seek to discover the true meaning of the missing vowel, and useless extra syntax.
It's a time honored tradition. Besides Warp to pnlant V at 30cm was always a helluva lot more interesting.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.02.02 20:00:00 -
[149]
Well he didnt exactly make it known that english was his third language. Also its been said many times that he could have easily ran his posts through a spellchecker. I also would like to say that I havent personally attacked his spelling or grammar, but I was thinking it, and whether its his third language or his first, it still effects his message.
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.02.02 20:10:00 -
[150]
Originally by: thebumbumsong
Orc A made time news!
just had too
another classic image.
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2006.02.02 20:16:00 -
[151]
Orc A, I'm flattered that you think of BoB as the best and I look forward to some hardcore fights. Suit up, order delivery and stock up on quafe. :)
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