Nice to see the debate fall into the realms of "Your mumma...", or the classic "No, you are!" playground realms. For all the computing power of the human mind, online threads can sometime get depressingly predictable. I'm looking forward to the day when an argument ends with "...and I appreciate your view points, and though they differ from my own, they still raise valid points.". I mean we could use these arguments to potentially highlight ideas, but this is Eve we're talking about, and thus the e-***** (attached to the e-ego) is mightier than the ability to rationalise and be civil to one another.

The biggest problem with Democracy is that it essentially says that one's wrongful, uneducated opinion is just as valid and equal to another's intelligent informed opinion.

My personal view is that the tax rate for NPC's corps is far too low for the protection they get against wardecs.

Beyond that, it down to each individual to play Eve however they choose and not be bullied into a specific style of play.

If you actually believe this


You have not only handicapped your EvE experience DRASTICALLY



You may even be a detriment to those you seek to mentor

Like most "issues" in EvE
They are usually caused
By folk who insist on thinking within the box at all times
In a game when out-of-box thinking is a required skill
They need to push the envelope
Push it real good
Off the table

dude i was making a list of misconceptions. ie things that are false. check my killboard. i send a fair amount of time in low and null and have done from a couple of months old.

You're assuming there needs to be conflict in every corner of the galaxy. The reason three different play zones exist is so people can play exactly how they want to play. Want to mine your carebear heart away or play the markets? High Sec. Want to shiver your timbred and drink copious amounts of rum whilst waving your cutlass over your head? Low and Null are calling you. Want to fight in epic (for epic read blob), fighting over systems and resources? Null is where it's at.

It may be shocking, but maybe people don't always want to have to be watching their back. High sec has always been good to retreat to if you're suffering burn out from the rest of Eve.

The embiggened text is what I am agreeing with
i.e. Your assertion that The "problem" is not actually a problem as it can easily be solved by folk engaging their brain before their mouth
The "envelope" metaphor finds its roots in ancient Egypt, where scribes
were not permitted to move from their seats until they had finished the writings they were working on

When a scribe was tired of writing something the normative way, he would fold the scroll into an envelope shape and "push the envelope" off the table

Then his task would be to retreive it from the floor, but without getting up from his seat

This became a way of saying "think of a new way to do something as there is always a new way"

And thats where we get the phrase "push the envelope" from

And in a way Jesus is like that

EvE! I mean EvE is like that

Sorry

I already pointed it... drive gameplay where the players are rather than bother them so they play the way they don't want to play.

And NO, i do not mean "themepark". Try thinking out of the box - how about political PvP, struggling to control NPC entities through influence? (sorry if someone's mind got blown by implying that there's more to PvP than asplode ships).

So, go back and point out where he said "highsec" should be immune? Or anything like that.

Let me count the way that is a valid counter argument... No, wait, you failed to even explain anything beyond a casual observation. I have no more an idea of why you hold this opinion, so how am I supposed to change my thinking if you provide a good counter arguments? It's the essay handed back to you with a grade, but missing any reasoning as to why you failed, or gained the mark you did.

Yes, probably you are. A developer may provide the players with tools so they generate player content in hisec and not jsut in nullsec. And player driven PvE is generated by players so other players enjoy it as the creators are rewarded for creating the content.

I'll admit that it would prove very interesting if players were allowed to create their own missions and PvE, but there's the matter of balance, loot drops, etc... So I'd imagine CCP would still have to OK player created content. Now what would be cool to see is the players fleshing out the mission descriptions and the lore. It could potentially even create a meta-career as PvE writers for players who have the idea of how to cobble together a mission, but not necessarily the artistic vision to flesh it out.

I file that under child abuse.

She would have eventually learned to like it anyway. And if not, what is your obsession with children submerged in water ? Sounds weird tbh.


edit: Also, we are mostly adults here. Try throwing me in a pool or making me do something else I don't wanna do. Just try.

You took advantage of a child's powerlessness and just admitted it in public...in print.

I apologise

Awesome Story

ITT we learn that people who are spineless limp-wristed cowards in a video game are also spineless limp-wristed cowards in real life, the exact opposite of the supposed "griefers are pussies irl" myth.

I'm less than shocked.

Again with the camp-hate


tut tut


Its like this is thread going down THAT path again

tsk tsk forums alts in calling people cowardly shocker.

i'm just RP a sarcastic **** don't worry <3

not you

etc, etc

Well....

If you just want a ticker...


Of course, youd have to take my name

And the divorce from Quirko would have to come through lol

sure, what could possibly go wrong.

Just so you know, I don't fly blingy things ... or have anything in the corp hangars/wallet ... I'm in the "looking for a new crew" thing myself.

Yeah I know

But Ma wont let anyone in the Clan without being family and all

Do you know how collectible card games work?

Picture players as deck holders, replace cards with NPC agents, their "attacks/defenses" with PvE missions and deliver those missions anonymously to players who can either succeed or fail the mission. Such misison allow the "deck holdr" to access new cards (i.e. new agents), "trigger" the agents so they can use single-shot special powers (which affect other players), et cetera.

Additionaly allow the "deck holder" to create the missions herself, using a limited supply of "mission points" and a price for every item/function added to the mission. Obviously check and balance it to hell and back to prevent abuse with too easy/too hard missions (albeit the average "deck holder" will need the mission to succeed so it won't make it impossible to the mission runner).

By the way, do you guess which company used to have one of such collectible cards games? CCP Hf in collaboration with White Wolf Inc.

It wouldn't even be new to them...

Im afraid Ma is a bit of a quickdraw with the ole coat-hangar if you know what I mean

We could elope though...

Then learn how collectible card games work.