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KharKass HarK's
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Posted - 2006.01.31 11:53:00 -
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Hi there, i just changed my PC for a new config:
Asus a8n sli premium
Amd X2 4200+
2x Asus 7800GT (SLI)
2x 1024 Corsair XMS RAM
Everything goes well exept when i reinstalled EVE and launched it...
I have very very bad lag and graphics breaks.
On different forul, i saw that many game were not running well with the dual core and they suggest to make them ru on 1 core.
That's what i did and now it works well.
Am i the onlyone who get this problem or is trere any solution to use my brand new dualCore in EVE???
Thx for ur answer.
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Talan Borne
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Posted - 2006.01.31 12:39:00 -
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I have a very similar setup:
AMD X24600
Asus A8N
2x1GB corsair ram
6800 Ultra
And i'm not having any issues. What did you do out of curiosity - set the app to single processer in task manager? I've done that for other games, but if you did it for EVE am curious why it's running fine for me.
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Vala Draaken
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:03:00 -
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Try Windows XP fix for Dual core AMD X2 CPU's
Hope it help,
Vala D.
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Khaleff
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:03:00 -
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Yes, task manager...
I'm curious to know why tou didn't have the issue.
Are you on XP 64Bits?
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KharKass HarK's
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Posted - 2006.01.31 13:07:00 -
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Thx for your link, but language incompatibility...I'm french and can't install this update :(
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Lividicus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:55:00 -
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There is also a driver on AMDs website to use in conjunction with the fix.
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KharKass HarK's
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:14:00 -
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Yep, i did it too...Nevermind, i'll continue playing with 1core and wait for real updates from windows, AMD and EVE ;)
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Calynus
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Posted - 2006.02.02 19:01:00 -
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I have the same problem.
My rig is an AMD X2 3800+, 2GB RAM, 2 x MSI 7800GT (SLI) running 1920x1200.
I have installed the Dual Core patches for Windows released by AMD and Microsoft and I get horrible stuttering and graphic lag if I try to run without setting affinity for EVE.EXE to a single core in Task Manager.
Is this a problem with SLI or a problem with CCP's programming as it pertains to the AMD x2 CPU?
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Lividicus
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Posted - 2006.02.03 06:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Calynus
I have the same problem.
My rig is an AMD X2 3800+, 2GB RAM, 2 x MSI 7800GT (SLI) running 1920x1200.
I have installed the Dual Core patches for Windows released by AMD and Microsoft and I get horrible stuttering and graphic lag if I try to run without setting affinity for EVE.EXE to a single core in Task Manager.
Is this a problem with SLI or a problem with CCP's programming as it pertains to the AMD x2 CPU?
Its more than likely Windows trying to load balance different processes in the game and because the game is not written to support multithreading, the cpu "loses" critical data thats on the other CPU and has to call it again, causing a large performance hit or a crash.
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Roddic
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Posted - 2006.02.08 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: KharKass HarK's
Hi there, i just changed my PC for a new config:
Asus a8n sli premium
Amd X2 4200+
2x Asus 7800GT (SLI)
2x 1024 Corsair XMS RAM
Everything goes well exept when i reinstalled EVE and launched it...
I have very very bad lag and graphics breaks.
On different forul, i saw that many game were not running well with the dual core and they suggest to make them ru on 1 core.
That's what i did and now it works well.
Am i the onlyone who get this problem or is trere any solution to use my brand new dualCore in EVE???
Thx for ur answer.
I don't know how much you guys did your research on dual cores, but the earlier models have refresher rate problems so their frequency is in fact lower than the single core at the same speed. this is a hipcup, something all new technology goes through, and i suggest upgrading to newer duals as soon as you can afford it. as they now have a 4000+ single core its probly not that unrealistic that the 8000+ x2 is that far away. one would hope that the problems with the earlier chips have been settled by then.
i myself just bought the amd 3500+ single core, after i did some research.
the deciding factor was that dual cores at the time of my reaserach where origannaly intended for alot of programs to be running at the same time, but not graphic intensive.
as i play alot of games i very quickly realised that the dual core was incompatible with my gamming needs.
saddly your new chip wil (probably) never be what you wanted. but give the technology a few months to sort itself out and it should be fine.
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Lividicus
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Posted - 2006.02.08 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Lividicus on 08/02/2006 13:34:11
Originally by: Roddic
Originally by: KharKass HarK's
Hi there, i just changed my PC for a new config:
Asus a8n sli premium
Amd X2 4200+
2x Asus 7800GT (SLI)
2x 1024 Corsair XMS RAM
Everything goes well exept when i reinstalled EVE and launched it...
I have very very bad lag and graphics breaks.
On different forul, i saw that many game were not running well with the dual core and they suggest to make them ru on 1 core.
That's what i did and now it works well.
Am i the onlyone who get this problem or is trere any solution to use my brand new dualCore in EVE???
Thx for ur answer.
I don't know how much you guys did your research on dual cores, but the earlier models have refresher rate problems so their frequency is in fact lower than the single core at the same speed. this is a hipcup, something all new technology goes through, and i suggest upgrading to newer duals as soon as you can afford it. as they now have a 4000+ single core its probly not that unrealistic that the 8000+ x2 is that far away. one would hope that the problems with the earlier chips have been settled by then.
i myself just bought the amd 3500+ single core, after i did some research.
the deciding factor was that dual cores at the time of my reaserach where origannaly intended for alot of programs to be running at the same time, but not graphic intensive.
as i play alot of games i very quickly realised that the dual core was incompatible with my gamming needs.
saddly your new chip wil (probably) never be what you wanted. but give the technology a few months to sort itself out and it should be fine.
Some of your info is not correct.. There is no "refresh" problem with the AMD Athlon X-2, both cores run at the same frequency. There is no AMD Athlon X-2 8000+ anywhere in the near future... Parrallel processing does not scale with performance like clockspeed does. The 4800+ is not 2 "2400+ cores". Upgrading to a new X-2 will NOT FIX ANY ISSUES YOU ARE HAVING NOW. I cant stress that enough.
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Bill Shakespeare
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Posted - 2006.02.08 16:21:00 -
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Concur with Lividicus. I had the stuttering problem at first with the dual core, but an update from AMD and .NET update fixed it for me.
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Dynnr
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Posted - 2006.02.08 19:34:00 -
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I had the same issue until I flashed my mobo to the lastest version. Make sure you're not running cool 'n quiet, either. That piece of programming is horrible and caused me a number of head aches.
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Tsabrock
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Posted - 2006.02.09 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tsabrock on 09/02/2006 17:11:54
Asus A8N-SLI Premium Motherboard - 1.09 Bios.
AMD 4400+ X2 (Toledo Core)
2 Gigs of Corsair 2-3-3-8 Memory (XMS Series)
7800-GTX NVidia Card (EVGA Brand, 256megs) - 80.98 Drivers.
Audidgy 2 Sound Card (older card, eventually plan to upgrade to an X-Fi)
I've had relatively little problem with my new box after I did a bunch of research. I installed the various drivers and hotfixes for dual-core processors. I updated the NForce chipset driver from NVidia's Website (NForce4_x16_6.85_winxp2k_english.exe) and not the ones from the ASUS site. Video Drivers were downloaded from the EVGA site but appear identical to the Reference drivers from NVidia directly.
I've run Cool and Quiet without a problem (again, after getting the latest fixes from AMD's site), although I've disabled it to experiment with overclocking (The system is running at 103% with no problems currently).
My biggest problem has been the occasional boot-to-the-desktop when jumping through a stargate. It's frequent enough that it's getting annoying, but I've yet to resolve the issue. I've got a couple ideas yet to try out. I'm leaning towards video issues, but it could easily be sound or processor-based too. I know it's not the above-listed overclocking, as it's done this regardless of what the processor is clocked at.
As for your bad frame rates, it could be a video issue and not a dual-core issue. I don't know how EVE likes SLI configurations, but I know that there are some games that actually run WORSE in SLI mode than regular mode (I don't recall which games). I don't run SLI - I run dual monitors and one card with my games in windowed mode. I had a loss of frame rate in all games until I went into the NVidia Control Panel and forced single-montitor 3D rendering. This greatly upped the frame rate of all applications, with especially demanding games like City of Heroes noticing biggest boost). This setting is under the Advanced Settings of the "Performance and Quality" settings.
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Roddic
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Posted - 2006.02.10 06:18:00 -
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Edited by: Roddic on 10/02/2006 06:20:16
Originally by: Lividicus
Edited by: Lividicus on 08/02/2006 13:34:11
Originally by: Roddic
Originally by: KharKass HarK's
Hi there, i just changed my PC for a new config:
Asus a8n sli premium
Amd X2 4200+
2x Asus 7800GT (SLI)
2x 1024 Corsair XMS RAM
Everything goes well exept when i reinstalled EVE and launched it...
I have very very bad lag and graphics breaks.
On different forul, i saw that many game were not running well with the dual core and they suggest to make them ru on 1 core.
That's what i did and now it works well.
Am i the onlyone who get this problem or is trere any solution to use my brand new dualCore in EVE???
Thx for ur answer.
I don't know how much you guys did your research on dual cores, but the earlier models have refresher rate problems so their frequency is in fact lower than the single core at the same speed. this is a hipcup, something all new technology goes through, and i suggest upgrading to newer duals as soon as you can afford it. as they now have a 4000+ single core its probly not that unrealistic that the 8000+ x2 is that far away. one would hope that the problems with the earlier chips have been settled by then.
i myself just bought the amd 3500+ single core, after i did some research.
the deciding factor was that dual cores at the time of my reaserach where origannaly intended for alot of programs to be running at the same time, but not graphic intensive.
as i play alot of games i very quickly realised that the dual core was incompatible with my gamming needs.
saddly your new chip wil (probably) never be what you wanted. but give the technology a few months to sort itself out and it should be fine.
Some of your info is not correct.. There is no "refresh" problem with the AMD Athlon X-2, both cores run at the same frequency. There is no AMD Athlon X-2 8000+ anywhere in the near future... Parrallel processing does not scale with performance like clockspeed does. The 4800+ is not 2 "2400+ cores". Upgrading to a new X-2 will NOT FIX ANY ISSUES YOU ARE HAVING NOW. I cant stress that enough.
actually my bad, sorry for the bad info guys, i was just going over some of the info i had, and there are some good links that discuss it. this for example http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2410
and i didn't actually say 8000+'s where out, i just said that if they followed the same path that the earlier mods have then i would be supprised to see them at a later date.
the frequency bit got me though, but if you look at a few of the graphs in the link youll see what i was trying to say.
and my descriptions of what the chips were where a bit fanciful, but i was trying to keep it somewhat simple.
all up i only described the hardware its self, and if they have drivers to fix alot of the problems they where having i wouldn't be supprised.
heres another review of the dual core, the AMD X2 4800+
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/article.asp?SCID=16&CIID=25051
this one actually looks alright.
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