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pacifica	Posted - 2006.01.31 14:03:00 - [1] Edited by: pacifica on 31/01/2006 14:52:42 Hi every one. i will explain what i have see in this conflic with PA/NBSI/FE PA did get the RISK war that did make us defend our space for 3 week. Killing POS etc. by that time ATUK deploy a POS in H-PA. so we concentrated in BRANCH to remove RISK FIRST. We did it. We try to play with FE there FC 1 day say PA come in H-PA now. so we try to get communication work. Belive me their communication or planning never involved PA or NBSI. every time we did go to help them they turn us around or make us loose 3 hrs in Safe Spot and fter that turn us out saying bad setup. But before we manage to form gang with them we was killing Atuk ship easy. WE DID TRY TO MAKE GOOD TERM AND COMMUNICATION. I was on my friend ts when krulls did come on and ask them for help. i told Krulls PA will go help we just need to PLAN and MAKE good Communication. Next Day i was banned from their TS the Politic suck but me and persiphanie relation is not good. Following some one that yell and don t respect ppl is not good It a game. My corp was banned from tribute in the begging of the conflic cause i did give **** to persiphanie. He did want me to appologize i didn t appologize. i did say i make a mistake but he did too. FE atm in my book it a backstabbing story. i do have respect in some corp in FE. but 1 Thing YOUR LEADER ARE LYING to you and use u atm. was funny to see Krulls asking help and persiphanie saying i don t need help. that their communication. easier to NAP hostile then fight them. For me atm i can t play a lot but all what i say here i did predict it 1 mounth ago. PA is dead but the ash will raise you will see what is a phoenix. Over and Out (Sorry For My english but it not my first language i can write it in french but you will not like it or in romanian or in a other language. Just respect ppl language and if they make mistake then just put your self in their shoes and try to compose a text in a other language.) Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:54:00 - [2] I m not a leader of PA but i fight for PA. NBSI and PA do thing together cause we share communication and Intel. you can say every thing you want about PA and NBSI but 1 thing i have found in this alliance is friend ship. no one yell at each other no one give a u follow or u die. it a good thing. we kept eve as a game that all. RISK was fun to fight they give us hard time we give them hard time. was always cool. ATUK fight are boring for 1 thing. you squize them in 1 system. they smack in local and they say we will log off and log our alt and let you camp that system for nothing. That how they war u FE saying they never see PA help or NBSI it wrong. Your leader never want us to be there. they blame PA and NBSI to bring this war on the territory. 1 Thing you forget FE leader i was in imperium when FE did come in curse and attack the station of ATUK. what go around come back. Blaming some one else is showing bad side of your leader. i don t blame any one i expresed what i have see. I try most of the time helping ppl on both side. i remember 1 time FE was willing to do the complex in PA space and some PA give them hard time. I jump on alliance chat and say to the PA pilot get back in a other system FE are our friend and allied they want to do the complex let them and chill out. i try to be nice with every one and fair. i never do personel stuff in eve against some one even ex-mate when they left the corp it ok it a game. You can flame me you can do all the stuff u want i don t care. i play eve to have fun with my mate. respecting PPL i always did. Now why Persi hate me is simple. i defend 1 of my mate and he did try to make me kick him out of the corp i refuse and i say bad stuff he did put fuel on the fire and u can imagine the rest. after that he want me to make a PUBLIC appologize. What will never happend but i did admit i say bad words and vice et versa. he never say he did put fuel on the fire. this is why FE leader hate me. IF A LEADER CAN T ADMIT IS MISTAKE how can he lead is alliance well. blame me flame me i know 5 will and some FE. but i don t care any more. I m loyale to what i belive and i stay loyale to my friend. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.01.31 18:05:00 - [3] Edited by: pacifica on 31/01/2006 18:06:10 Originally by: Kcel Chim im not flaming you but your timespans are way off reality. You forget to mention that: a) You declared war on us b) Risk left months before the "assault on HPA" from your combined forces even started. c) during all the time Risk around or not it took your whole alliance to manage such a small group ? sounds odd. Last but not least you did not send any dreads or any major fleets to hpa and the siege lasted for a good few weeks. If that time isnt enough to "manage" things i think it is your command which is at fault. Humm Risk war become in the same time of your Assault. we concentrated on RISK. H-PA we try we did go we did lagg we did lose 1 battle for the POS we didn t see any thing. Eve can t suport Blob war Lag is terrible. why try to continue a BLOB war when we all know eve can t suport it. For the dread. bringing dread in a system full of lag is asking to lose it fast. any way the problem was simple WE WASN T ABLE TO MAKE GOOD COMMUNICATION. that simple Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.01.31 18:32:00 - [4] Originally by: Altar Mei A note on Risk, they were challenged almost everytime they came up or down the main pipes by FE. We also had many engagements with them outside of that. Don't pretend you fought that war on your own. i didn t say PA work alone on RISK. in that time our communication was ok we was sharing the intel. We was working all together. Until H-PA. that where we all lose communication Pa was turn around after been asked to bring ppl. NBSI was turn around the same day later in the time zone. i don t Invent thing i just say what happend. We was working good all together. It all start the day me and your leader got a argue about something that happend in hed-gp. far away from FE land. that 1 thing FE ppl didn t know we was banned in your space cause Celtic Anarchy killed 1 of my mate and after that my mate kill a celtic anarchy member in hed-gp (More then 1 BTW). they was at positive with our corp so i hope a convo with the ceo of Celtic Anarchy asking why that happend and i want that to stop. your leader (FE Persi) enter convo and start ** asking me to kick my member. It was none of is thing to ask me that because it all happend far away from FE land. and after that he told me that he did ask 3 corp to come patrol is land. and i ask did u advice NBSI or PA about that cause we don t have all good standing and i want to prevent friendly fire. He didn t care. so yes i was mad and give him ** too. The result all FE know we was banned from Tribute only SolidLine Pilot that where our relation start to get bad. In same time FE ask PA to merge and so on.... Don t Get me wrong here i never say we wasn t able before working together what i say is we all make mistake need some one strong to say he did a mistake and admit it. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.01.31 21:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Zzazzt Originally by: csebal Being a good 'friend' starts when you try thinking about how you could help your friend, not just thinking about 'how they could help me' or 'how i could help myself'. And to put the above truth into context: PA being a good 'friend' starts when PA tries thinking about how PA could help its friend shift a problem resident in PA's own territory, not just thinking about 'FE's got our backs in H-PA' or 'RISK is done, H-PA's boring and laggy - let's go muck about in HED'. Kudos to the few PA members that stuck it out, or indeed chose to stay in their own territory, even if it wasn't H-PA. Anyway. Old news. What's done is done - harping about past events won't change them. PA chose not to join in to shift The Five from its own space and now you're paying for it. when i Talk about HED-GP. we was their when we join PA killing some five and friend. we remove our self from their when we start battle with RISK and ATUK in our territory. ATM all Solid ppl was their did roam around and fight in Branch,Venal,Tribute,Pure Blind etc.. any way i just say what i see now we will shoot each other but i did say my point.. see u on battlefield now... Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.

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