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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: pacifica on 31/01/2006 14:52:42
Hi every one.
i will explain what i have see in this conflic with PA/NBSI/FE
PA did get the RISK war that did make us defend our space for 3 week. Killing POS etc. by that time ATUK deploy a POS in H-PA. so we concentrated in BRANCH to remove RISK FIRST. We did it.
We try to play with FE there FC 1 day say PA come in H-PA now. so we try to get communication work.
Belive me their communication or planning never involved PA or NBSI. every time we did go to help them they turn us around or make us loose 3 hrs in Safe Spot and fter that turn us out saying bad setup. But before we manage to form gang with them we was killing Atuk ship easy. WE DID TRY TO MAKE GOOD TERM AND COMMUNICATION.
I was on my friend ts when krulls did come on and ask them for help. i told Krulls PA will go help we just need to PLAN and MAKE good Communication. Next Day i was banned from their TS
the Politic suck but me and persiphanie relation is not good. Following some one that yell and don t respect ppl is not good It a game.
My corp was banned from tribute in the begging of the conflic cause i did give **** to persiphanie. He did want me to appologize i didn t appologize. i did say i make a mistake but he did too.
FE atm in my book it a backstabbing story. i do have respect in some corp in FE. but 1 Thing YOUR LEADER ARE LYING to you and use u atm.
was funny to see Krulls asking help and persiphanie saying i don t need help. that their communication.
easier to NAP hostile then fight them.
For me atm i can t play a lot but all what i say here i did predict it 1 mounth ago.
PA is dead but the ash will raise you will see what is a phoenix.
Over and Out
(Sorry For My english but it not my first language i can write it in french but you will not like it or in romanian or in a other language. Just respect ppl language and if they make mistake then just put your self in their shoes and try to compose a text in a other language.)
Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game. |
Dr Li
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:16:00 -
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Since the GNW I've dissliked PA and I hope you die hard this time
/Nira Li
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:18:00 -
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And RISK only lost BKG because of POS bugs too :/
Digital Communist> The Jin-Mei are probably more profficient in training for Tofu and Noodles than Spaceship Command |
Elisca Black
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:24:00 -
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you have no honor!
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2006.01.31 14:29:00 -
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....shakes head
Wtlf are you on about?? Do you even know yourself??
Nice recruiting PA.
KIA Killboard
KIA Piccys
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Lone Bear
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:02:00 -
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If the only thing you can write is about my ceo's typos, you should avoid posting and get a life or: here, grab a pen, think about something smart and constructive, write it down, then post it here mmmkay? Read the forum rules in case you STILL dont know them.
Main thing that he stated was the lack of comm' skills from FE leadership. Maybe they re doing good within their alliance, but we were never part of FE and had our own agenda. As a matter of fact we ve never been at their feet (FE leadership) saying "Persh Yes Persh" and we needed delay to organize our ops correctly with strong intels, which was another story . This kind of behaviour, Persh never accepted it or understood it.
His lunatic habbits like kicking whole alliance from allied chan, then allowing them back then kicking all pilots again were really annoying. Eddz, I think your Ego has been beaten and by far on this one .
So once and for all, comm' was the weak point from my CEO pov. Agree, disagree if you want, but the fact is that you never lived it from his pov.
If you cant refrain from being a Papio cynocephalusdont post, that's quite easy.
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Venganza
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Venganza on 31/01/2006 15:28:05
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Lone Bear
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:33:00 -
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No it isn't, unless if you mean that kicking 2/3 of pilots out of allied chan is a smart and helpfull move.
Who fought in H-PA / D-7 is irrelevant in this thread. This is not the point, it s already discussed in the .5. & FE thread.
If you can't make a difference between an alliance's leadership and this alliance's pilots, I can't help you.
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Top Hat
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:39:00 -
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I like tuna.
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.31 15:54:00 -
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I m not a leader of PA but i fight for PA.
NBSI and PA do thing together cause we share communication and Intel.
you can say every thing you want about PA and NBSI but 1 thing i have found in this alliance is friend ship.
no one yell at each other no one give a u follow or u die. it a good thing. we kept eve as a game that all.
RISK was fun to fight they give us hard time we give them hard time. was always cool.
ATUK fight are boring for 1 thing. you squize them in 1 system. they smack in local and they say we will log off and log our alt and let you camp that system for nothing. That how they war u
FE saying they never see PA help or NBSI it wrong. Your leader never want us to be there. they blame PA and NBSI to bring this war on the territory.
1 Thing you forget FE leader i was in imperium when FE did come in curse and attack the station of ATUK.
what go around come back. Blaming some one else is showing bad side of your leader.
i don t blame any one i expresed what i have see. I try most of the time helping ppl on both side. i remember 1 time FE was willing to do the complex in PA space and some PA give them hard time. I jump on alliance chat and say to the PA pilot get back in a other system FE are our friend and allied they want to do the complex let them and chill out. i try to be nice with every one and fair. i never do personel stuff in eve against some one even ex-mate when they left the corp it ok it a game.
You can flame me you can do all the stuff u want i don t care. i play eve to have fun with my mate.
respecting PPL i always did.
Now why Persi hate me is simple. i defend 1 of my mate and he did try to make me kick him out of the corp i refuse and i say bad stuff he did put fuel on the fire and u can imagine the rest.
after that he want me to make a PUBLIC appologize. What will never happend but i did admit i say bad words and vice et versa. he never say he did put fuel on the fire.
this is why FE leader hate me. IF A LEADER CAN T ADMIT IS MISTAKE how can he lead is alliance well.
blame me flame me i know 5 will and some FE. but i don t care any more.
I m loyale to what i belive and i stay loyale to my friend.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:58:00 -
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im not flaming you but your timespans are way off reality.
You forget to mention that:
a) You declared war on us
b) Risk left months before the "assault on HPA" from your combined forces even started.
c) during all the time Risk around or not it took your whole alliance to manage such a small group ? sounds odd.
Last but not least you did not send any dreads or any major fleets to hpa and the siege lasted for a good few weeks. If that time isnt enough to "manage" things i think it is your command which is at fault.
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: pacifica on 31/01/2006 18:06:10
 Originally by: Kcel Chim
im not flaming you but your timespans are way off reality.
You forget to mention that:
a) You declared war on us
b) Risk left months before the "assault on HPA" from your combined forces even started.
c) during all the time Risk around or not it took your whole alliance to manage such a small group ? sounds odd.
Last but not least you did not send any dreads or any major fleets to hpa and the siege lasted for a good few weeks. If that time isnt enough to "manage" things i think it is your command which is at fault.
Humm Risk war become in the same time of your Assault.
we concentrated on RISK.
H-PA we try we did go we did lagg we did lose 1 battle for the POS we didn t see any thing.
Eve can t suport Blob war Lag is terrible. why try to continue a BLOB war when we all know eve can t suport it.
For the dread. bringing dread in a system full of lag is asking to lose it fast.
any way the problem was simple WE WASN T ABLE TO MAKE GOOD COMMUNICATION.
that simple
Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game. |
Altar Mei
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:14:00 -
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A note on Risk, they were challenged almost everytime they came up or down the main pipes by FE. We also had many engagements with them outside of that. Don't pretend you fought that war on your own.
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: pacifica
i will explain what i have see in this conflic with PA/NBSI/FE
PA did get the RISK war that did make us defend our space for 3 week.
weve been fighting ATUK for 3 months
Originally by: pacifica
Belive me their communication or planning never involved PA or NBSI. every time we did go to help them they turn us around or make us loose 3 hrs in Safe Spot
i cant explain to you how long we spent in ss. longer than 3 hours. its part of the tactics we used against 5 , that worked. just the way it was. if you actually hung around a bit longer youd see how it did work ( some of your guys did)
Originally by: pacifica
and fter that turn us out saying bad setup.
you dont fight atuk with npc ravens. you need turret ships, which you didnt have.
Originally by: pacifica
But before we manage to form gang with them we was killing Atuk ship easy.
the only reply to this is O'Rly...
Originally by: pacifica
WE DID TRY TO MAKE GOOD TERM AND COMMUNICATION.
Yes, and so did we.
Originally by: pacifica
the Politic suck
yep they do, but they sucked more for us than you.
Originally by: pacifica
It a game.
yes , but we all tend to forget this ingame.
Originally by: pacifica
easier to NAP hostile then fight them.
not true
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Altar Mei
A note on Risk, they were challenged almost everytime they came up or down the main pipes by FE. We also had many engagements with them outside of that. Don't pretend you fought that war on your own.
i didn t say PA work alone on RISK. in that time our communication was ok we was sharing the intel. We was working all together.
Until H-PA. that where we all lose communication
Pa was turn around after been asked to bring ppl.
NBSI was turn around the same day later in the time zone.
i don t Invent thing i just say what happend. We was working good all together.
It all start the day me and your leader got a argue about something that happend in hed-gp. far away from FE land.
that 1 thing FE ppl didn t know
we was banned in your space cause Celtic Anarchy killed 1 of my mate and after that my mate kill a celtic anarchy member in hed-gp (More then 1 BTW). they was at positive with our corp so i hope a convo with the ceo of Celtic Anarchy asking why that happend and i want that to stop. your leader (FE Persi) enter convo and start **** asking me to kick my member.
It was none of is thing to ask me that because it all happend far away from FE land. and after that he told me that he did ask 3 corp to come patrol is land. and i ask did u advice NBSI or PA about that cause we don t have all good standing and i want to prevent friendly fire. He didn t care. so yes i was mad and give him **** too.
The result all FE know we was banned from Tribute only SolidLine Pilot that where our relation start to get bad.
In same time FE ask PA to merge and so on....
Don t Get me wrong here i never say we wasn t able before working together what i say is we all make mistake need some one strong to say he did a mistake and admit it.
Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game. |
Kharnn
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:34:00 -
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( A note on Risk, they were challenged almost everytime they came up or down the main pipes by FE. We also had many engagements with them outside of that. Don't pretend you fought that war on your own. )
Nobody said we did but to say PA/NBSI did nothing is false information. Although i had orders lately to stay out of fighting due to special orders. When that RISK war was going on I flew with NBSI/PA/FE ops. I did some hunting with FE a few times in Jita, NBSI in Rens and everyone in 0.0. I thought both groups had some great guys in it. Although i dont agree with the decision that FE made as with all good soldiers i cant and wont blame FE people for following there leadership. The problem i have is to say we did nothing is just plain bull.
As far my Ceo Pacifica has to be one of the most honorable people ive flown with and have known in my 2 years in Eve. Pacifica you know i would fly through hell and back for you buddy.
Too FE and 5 may we have good smack free fights on both sides!!!
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:45:00 -
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i wont bother with all the things in this thread, mostly crap anyways
but 2 things :
1) PA/NBSI started acting as if the conflict with .5. is mainly an issue of F-E and does not really concern them, F-E shouldnt have to call for "help" every time we saw some .5. just so that you get some ships and start fighting them
2) what was your strategy against fighting .5.? waiting for F-E to call for assistance? and if we dont, then just stay far away from .5. while they fight with F-E?
The only initiative i have ever seen from PA against .5. was the initial wardec, plz enlighten me of your secret plan to battle the .5.
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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UnrulyEvil
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:56:00 -
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Hear me mortals! I speak on behave of mighty ALT alliance.
On the serious note. Yes it is true that in F-E one leader was shouting ôNo we donÆt need PAs helpö and at the same time other leader was calling for help. It is true fact! If F-E leaders cant admit that, they need to tell the whole EVE community that they are 13 and dont have hair on their balls yet.
There were some poor decisions on the side of F-E leaders. True, but I would never expect NBSI to attack F-E the way they did. ItÆs a backstab.
Reason why PA was kicked from TS is because when F-E leaders asked for help they wanted it the same instant, not tomorrow, not in the week. So to them its like... if you cant help us ... get out!
We at ALT alliance donÆt like F-E they donÆt have many of us there but we do like 5
Death to .5. infidels.
Proud Member of ALT alliance.
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Rob Skywalker
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
i wont bother with all the things in this thread, mostly crap anyways
but 2 things :
1) PA/NBSI started acting as if the conflict with .5. is mainly an issue of F-E and does not really concern them, F-E shouldnt have to call for "help" every time we saw some .5. just so that you get some ships and start fighting them
2) what was your strategy against fighting .5.? waiting for F-E to call for assistance? and if we dont, then just stay far away from .5. while they fight with F-E?
The only initiative i have ever seen from PA against .5. was the initial wardec, plz enlighten me of your secret plan to battle the .5.
Hey F-E
HUN , ROA that old FA corps Right ?
and what happen with FA ? (fa = funtain allaince)
so F-E lets think = FA DEAD, why BOB and STAIN AND ATUK KILLED FUNTAIN; AND Funatin member coutn was ? over 2k
and now are yu at the place
* Iem the Rob Skywalker , nice what ?! ^^ |
Ituralde
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:15:00 -
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Still does not explain why you let us do all the fighting for your space. Had to gank down south, didn't you? I bet ATUK felt that one alot.
You are now to pay the price for abandoning us to fight the war YOUR ALLIANCE started. Look at the history, first to declare war on ATUK was PA. Yet you abandoned us on the front lines. When we were fighting ATUK in H-PA29, the war with risk was already over, I was there in our fleet that kept ATUK busy while you and NBSI brought down their POS. That was right when ATUK was setting up shop in H-PA, and the fight in H-PA proper did not happen until later. RISK did not keep you busy, you clearly could fly around Pure Blind, Geminate, and down south to gank miners.
Don't pretend to have infinite knowledge about Forsaken Empire. This is nothing but a matter of the cowardice of PA and NBSI that led you to abandon us on the front lines. Time to face the consequences of your actions.
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:16:00 -
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Here is a Tissue. All this crying on the forums by PA/NBSI even makes me sorry for them. 
Its amazing during prime time last night 6Nj & y-4 had NO one in the systems. Usually find some PA are docked, but it was a Ghost town.
Awe, here is another tissue. Its ok, we will be gentle.
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Kirin
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: pacifica
It all start the day me and your leader got a argue about something that happend in hed-gp. far away from FE land.
And here in lies the problem, you even admit it yourself, the enemy was in "your" space, wtf were you doing in HED-GP?
Then all we got was:
Originally by: pacifica
H-PA we try we did go we did lagg we did lose 1 battle for the POS we didn t see any thing.
Eve can t suport Blob war Lag is terrible. why try to continue a BLOB war when we all know eve can t suport it.
For the dread. bringing dread in a system full of lag is asking to lose it fast.
excuses
Remember the toes you step on today are still connected to the arse you may have to kiss tomorrow.
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
And RISK only lost BKG because of POS bugs too :/
Your saying that not refueling your POS is a bug now?
Death and Glory in H-PA
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csebal
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: csebal on 31/01/2006 19:55:27
Originally by: Tiuwaz
The only initiative i have ever seen from PA against .5. was the initial wardec, plz enlighten me of your secret plan to battle the .5.
One thing that makes me happy in this nap (among a few others) is that now we get to know the big PA/NBSI master plan on fighting the .5. With the meatshield gone, they will be forced to reveal that plan F-E was unable to reach with its unorganized, tactically disastrous operations.
My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe. |
csebal
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rob Skywalker
HUN , ROA that old FA corps Right ?
Yes.
Originally by: Rob Skywalker
and what happen with FA ? (fa = funtain allaince)
so F-E lets think = FA DEAD, why BOB and STAIN AND ATUK KILLED FUNTAIN; AND Funatin member coutn was ? over 2k
and now are yu at the place
Erm. Stupid trolling alts should really take an intensive english course before they start to post their BS. At least we would understand what they mean.
My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe. |
Stulmar Eskanti
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
And RISK only lost BKG because of POS bugs too :/
RISK lost cus they forgot to fuel the poses, think it`s even posted in the biggest blunders...if u have no ideea what happened just don`t post dude, it only makes u look stupid,no offence.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:59:00 -
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Its not what you can get from your friends, its what you can do to your enemies.
FE has failed on both cause they blame PA for not fighting thier own war and then complain they did not get help with thier own that we where not suppose to get involved in.
The issue is that you gave in to the enemy and joined up with him to take out your "friends".
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Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Stulmar Eskanti
Originally by: Maya Rkell
And RISK only lost BKG because of POS bugs too :/
RISK lost cus they forgot to fuel the poses, think it`s even posted in the biggest blunders...if u have no ideea what happened just don`t post dude, it only makes u look stupid,no offence.
Actually yes we did forget to refuel our pos', but they all had different ammounts in and should of lasted longer than they did. What happened was 1 ran out of fuel and the rest switched off with it. I'd consider that a bug. Although they likely would of run out on the same day, they would of been staggered rather than all at once allowng us to possbly save some. Meh who cares, we would of had branc a month later if funding didn't end the day before the invasion was planned.
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csebal
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: csebal on 31/01/2006 20:18:10
Originally by: Harisdrop
Its not what you can get from your friends, its what you can do to your enemies.
Actually it is neither. It is what YOU DO for your friends.
Being a good 'friend' starts when you try thinking about how you could help your friend, not just thinking about 'how they could help me' or 'how i could help myself'.
My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe. |
Zzazzt
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: csebal
Being a good 'friend' starts when you try thinking about how you could help your friend, not just thinking about 'how they could help me' or 'how i could help myself'.
And to put the above truth into context:
PA being a good 'friend' starts when PA tries thinking about how PA could help its friend shift a problem resident in PA's own territory, not just thinking about 'FE's got our backs in H-PA' or 'RISK is done, H-PA's boring and laggy - let's go muck about in HED'.
Kudos to the few PA members that stuck it out, or indeed chose to stay in their own territory, even if it wasn't H-PA.
Anyway. Old news. What's done is done - harping about past events won't change them. PA chose not to join in to shift The Five from its own space and now you're paying for it.
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