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Blacklight	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:29:00 - [211] Originally by: Baun In any case, call me bitter all you want, it really has no bearing on the comments I made or will make in the future. We noticed about 6 months ago. Won't stop me replying and calling you out for it either. Eve Blacklight Style
Top Hat	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:31:00 - [212] Edited by: Top Hat on 31/01/2006 19:32:54 Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 31/01/2006 19:27:47 Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Baun Translation: BOB told us to capitulate or we would be next. Hi Mr Still Bitter Living Proof Of What Happens If You **** Us Off. Fancy you cropping up in a BoB thread eh? FA is/was living proof of what happened to carebear alliances who fight 7 months of multi-fronted wars during the era of agent missions. BOB is living proof that it doesnt take much to finish off said alliances. If you were able to fend of for 7 months, multiple wars on several fronts, which is quite an accomplishment, why then did you crumble so easily from one enemy on one front then?
Baun	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:32:00 - [213] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Baun In any case, call me bitter all you want, it really has no bearing on the comments I made or will make in the future. We noticed about 6 months ago. Won't stop me replying and calling you out for it either. You noticed what 6 months ago? You can try to deflect what I am saying by calling me whatever you want. All you do is point out that I have a valid point. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Greme	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:33:00 - [214] Originally by: dantes inferno one hell of a conicidence...bit like the coincidence of evry corp who springs internal problems and leave their alliance while its getting its behind kicked..and say it had nothign to do with the hostiles killing them every minute...but hey if this is going to happen...then may as well do it properly A coincidence it may be, but a truthful one :)
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:35:00 - [215] Originally by: Baun You can try to deflect what I am saying by calling me whatever you want. All you do is point out that I have a valid point. No, if I was going to point out that you have a valid point I would say 'Baun you have a valid point'. What I am pointing out is that you come across as a very bitter BoB hating fanboi who never got over his own alliance getting deconstructed and now haunts all threads about BoB attempting to get some weird satisfaction out of stalking us. But whatever floats your boat. Eve Blacklight Style
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:36:00 - [216] Originally by: Daxes Wannabe pvp alliances are bad enough but even worse are those which cant even show balls and use politics as their only weapon to survive in 0.0. Didn't knew that we were a PvP alliance, even more a wannabe one. anyways no more posting for me in this thread. And I urge the rest of ASCN to do the same thing. ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Baun	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:37:00 - [217] Originally by: Top Hat Edited by: Top Hat on 31/01/2006 19:31:32 Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 31/01/2006 19:27:47 Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Baun Translation: BOB told us to capitulate or we would be next. Hi Mr Still Bitter Living Proof Of What Happens If You **** Us Off. Fancy you cropping up in a BoB thread eh? FA is/was living proof of what happened to carebear alliances who fight 7 months of multi-fronted wars during the era of agent missions. BOB is living proof that it doesnt take much to finish off said alliances. If you were able to fend of for 7 months, multiple wars on several fronts, why did you crumble so easily from one enemy on one front then? We have been over this many times. Prior to war with Imperium (on one front) & Shinra (on the other front): FA's primary Euro PvP coroporations- S-44 Finfleet Jazz Xanadu 4S HUN BIG FSR Prior to war with ATUK: 4S HUN Finfleet FSR Prior to war with BoB: HUN FSR FA lost its entire European PvP base, and 90% of its active players, before it ever even fought BoB in Delve, much less Fountain. This really isn't the thread to rehash how you guys are patting yourselves on the back for someone else's work, this is about what you are doing now. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Rthor	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:39:00 - [218] Originally by: Blacklight to get some weird satisfaction out of stalking us. But whatever floats your boat. Stalking BL is my job and in any way it is fun but you have to know how to do it.
IcedBach Jr	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:40:00 - [219] Originally by: Susie Dutra How long before ASCN leaves their SA allies high and dry and posts a "we are the super-nuetral friend of everyone"?? didnt take em long did it. Praeludium to success
Baun	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:40:00 - [220] Edited by: Baun on 31/01/2006 19:44:47 Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Baun You can try to deflect what I am saying by calling me whatever you want. All you do is point out that I have a valid point. No, if I was going to point out that you have a valid point I would say 'Baun you have a valid point'. What I am pointing out is that you come across as a very bitter BoB hating fanboi who never got over his own alliance getting deconstructed and now haunts all threads about BoB attempting to get some weird satisfaction out of stalking us. But whatever floats your boat. And you come across as someone who waits for me to say something to point out that I am bitter. So let me put you at ease; I do not like the fact that FA was reduced to its current state. I do not like the fact that BoB take credit for it because they happened to stumble upon a severely weakened FA. Furthermore, I do not like BoB and whatever I say has truth value independent of whether I like you. If your own vision were not clouded, as you are accusing mine of being, then you might actually notice that I only speak when I actually have something to say and that the tone of most everything I have written since I left FA, in discussions about what happened and why, has been pretty objective. Then again, if you actually had any interest in objectivity you would read what I write instead of ruining your own leader's threads flaming me. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Masta Killa	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:50:00 - [221] Originally by: Wuubaa bye stain. 2006.01.31 19:50 Victim: Wuubaa Alliance: Band of Brothers Corp: Reikoku Destroyed: Megathron System: FO-RUMS Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Masta Killa (laid the final blow) Security: -1.8 Alliance: None Corp: Sinister Corporation Ship: Raven Weapon: Daniel Jackson Daakkon says I'm speshul --------------------------------------
TWD	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:52:00 - [222] Originally by: Baun And you come across as someone who waits for me to say something to point out that I am bitter. So let me put you at ease; I do not like the fact that FA was reduced to its current state. I do not like the fact that BoB take credit for it because they happened to stumble upon a severely weakened FA. Furthermore, I do not like BoB and whatever I say has truth value independent of whether I like you. If your own vision were not clouded, as you are accusing mine of being, then you might actually notice that I only speak when I actually have something to say and that the tone of most everything I have written since I left FA, in discussions about what happened and why, has been pretty objective. Then again, if you actually had any interest in objectivity you would read what I write instead of ruining your own leader's threads flaming me. [ 2004.11.10 06:28:49 ] Baun > EVOL cant jump into 200 ships Halseth [ 2004.11.10 06:28:49 ] XirtamVotf > well [ 2004.11.10 06:28:55 ] Baun > no one can [ 2004.11.10 06:28:56 ] Halseth Durn > they wont [ 2004.11.10 06:28:57 ] XirtamVotf > at repeating [ 2004.11.10 06:29:07 ] Baun > i know, so its a choice. Get bored or leave [ 2004.11.10 06:29:14 ] Halseth Durn > and you cant blob for weeks on end [ 2004.11.10 06:29:21 ] Baun > yes, we can [ 2004.11.10 06:29:22 ] Halseth Durn > they dont get bored [ 2004.11.10 06:29:33 ] Baun > then neither will we -- [ 2004.11.10 06:31:10 ] Baun > I am being confident. Game logistics and our position make their assault a rather tenuous proposition .... Keep on crying boy!
Sochin	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:54:00 - [223] Originally by: Masta Killa Originally by: Wuubaa bye stain. 2006.01.31 19:50 Victim: Wuubaa Alliance: Band of Brothers Corp: Reikoku Destroyed: Megathron System: FO-RUMS Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Masta Killa (laid the final blow) Security: -1.8 Alliance: None Corp: Sinister Corporation Ship: Raven Weapon: Daniel Jackson Daakkon says I'm speshul Your not speshul. Anyone could kill Wuubaa with a Daniel Jackson. Its his natural weakness. Nemo me impune lacessit
Baun	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:55:00 - [224] Edited by: Baun on 31/01/2006 19:56:41 Originally by: TWD Originally by: Baun And you come across as someone who waits for me to say something to point out that I am bitter. So let me put you at ease; I do not like the fact that FA was reduced to its current state. I do not like the fact that BoB take credit for it because they happened to stumble upon a severely weakened FA. Furthermore, I do not like BoB and whatever I say has truth value independent of whether I like you. If your own vision were not clouded, as you are accusing mine of being, then you might actually notice that I only speak when I actually have something to say and that the tone of most everything I have written since I left FA, in discussions about what happened and why, has been pretty objective. Then again, if you actually had any interest in objectivity you would read what I write instead of ruining your own leader's threads flaming me. [ 2004.11.10 06:28:49 ] Baun > EVOL cant jump into 200 ships Halseth [ 2004.11.10 06:28:49 ] XirtamVotf > well [ 2004.11.10 06:28:55 ] Baun > no one can [ 2004.11.10 06:28:56 ] Halseth Durn > they wont [ 2004.11.10 06:28:57 ] XirtamVotf > at repeating [ 2004.11.10 06:29:07 ] Baun > i know, so its a choice. Get bored or leave [ 2004.11.10 06:29:14 ] Halseth Durn > and you cant blob for weeks on end [ 2004.11.10 06:29:21 ] Baun > yes, we can [ 2004.11.10 06:29:22 ] Halseth Durn > they dont get bored [ 2004.11.10 06:29:33 ] Baun > then neither will we -- [ 2004.11.10 06:31:10 ] Baun > I am being confident. Game logistics and our position make their assault a rather tenuous proposition .... Keep on crying boy! Welcome to the situation 12 months before you attacked us. Are you guys seriously incapable of rational discussion? Is your only recourse when someone does not like you to attempt to undermine their credibility and avoid any discourse? I have only ever been able to have one rational discussion with someone in BoB concerning any conflict in which we were both involved, and as soon as it turned to the forums he started acting just like you and BL are. Must be your official policy. The Enemy's Gate is Down
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2006.01.31 19:59:00 - [225] Originally by: IcedBach Jr Originally by: Susie Dutra How long before ASCN leaves their SA allies high and dry and posts a "we are the super-nuetral friend of everyone"?? didnt take em long did it. I remember a time when the world and his aunties were deccing XETIC (now ASCN) and Stain did the same thing.
Raid	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:04:00 - [226] Edited by: Raid on 31/01/2006 20:04:21 Originally by: Steel Rat ASCN Official Statement Stability in the south has always been our goal. Working with our neighbors to make a strong south has been our priority. SA feels the need to stir the pot, first with FIX and now BoB. Because of these actions, ASCN space is now closed to SA and all allies of SA, this includes the regions of Impass, Feyth. and Esoteria. If SA would like to take this to the next level with ASCN, you know where to find us. That surprised absolutly no one. You woudln't help SA against G/IRON until it threatened your own survival. Working with your neighbours is only important so long as it doesnt disrupt your cash machine. But then again thats true for many alliances. IMO BOB is backing FIX because an unstable querious means problems in delve. That whole southern stability thing is a load of crap, the only stability anyone is really looking for is wherever they call home.
Valerio Garati	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:05:00 - [227] so when ascn told sa to stop fighting fix a month ago you thought they were joking? or when huzah ****ed off cyvok who set them at +5 and then -5 just a few hours laters you thought that will turn out good?
Happysin	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:08:00 - [228] So, uh is it true they added wardecing Stain to the nub tutorial missions now? ArsC Director of Logistics and Industry "Building our way to a better Tomorrow"
Adrianus	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:10:00 - [229] Edited by: Adrianus on 31/01/2006 20:12:09 Originally by: Happysin So, uh is it true they added wardecing Stain to the nub tutorial missions now? You bastard!
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:10:00 - [230] Originally by: Raid IMO BOB is backing FIX because an unstable querious means problems in delve. That whole southern stability thing is a load of crap, the only stability anyone is really looking for is wherever they call home. So let me just clarify, your insight here is that politics starts with looking after your own interests? .....and you are what surprised by this? Eve Blacklight Style
Daxes	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:16:00 - [231] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Raid IMO BOB is backing FIX because an unstable querious means problems in delve. That whole southern stability thing is a load of crap, the only stability anyone is really looking for is wherever they call home. So let me just clarify, your insight here is that politics starts with looking after your own interests? .....and you are what surprised by this? i think he is more pointing to the fact that most alliances always try to make it look like this isnt the case. Wouldnt hurt anyone if more ppl could actually stop this crap about northern, southern or whatever stability (who needs stability in a pvp game?).
TemporaryAlt	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:16:00 - [232] Regarding SA and ASCN, I don't see why ASCN should back SA in this war. ASCN seems to have good relations with both SA and BOB and with SA declaring war for no clear reason and not telling ASCN Command why (atleast from what I hear) ASCN has no reason at all to step in. All the good it would do them is having them fight a war which they didn't start and nothing to gain from.
Happysin	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:16:00 - [233] Originally by: Adrianus Edited by: Adrianus on 31/01/2006 20:12:09 Originally by: Happysin So, uh is it true they added wardecing Stain to the nub tutorial missions now? You bastard! Told yah I was stealing that. Yaar! ArsC Director of Logistics and Industry "Building our way to a better Tomorrow"
Wee Dave	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:17:00 - [234] Which special person decided attacking BoB's home space was a good idea?
Raid	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:24:00 - [235] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Raid IMO BOB is backing FIX because an unstable querious means problems in delve. That whole southern stability thing is a load of crap, the only stability anyone is really looking for is wherever they call home. So let me just clarify, your insight here is that politics starts with looking after your own interests? .....and you are what surprised by this? Im pointing out thw whole south vs north thing doesnt exist. Its "we want to attack the north, so lets come up with this southern unity stuff so no one backdoors us" If southern stability was really what you were looking for then you would have steped in the FIX/SA thing a LONG time ago. Southern Stability doesnt exist, its Delve stability that you want. Im not saying theres anything wrong with that, but trying to pass this off as southern stability is IMO a total lie.
Draahk Chimera	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:25:00 - [236] That SA attacked unprovoked is a bit of a stretch. I was actually online and in gang with our Scooter when you told him war was on and he said "lets attack them then". Unfortunatly I had rl to tend to and was not part of the gang later on. I dislike lies and scabby posts/local therefore I dislike FIX and like IRON (as far as enemies goes). Please dont give me reason to dislike you BoB. It always feels better fighting an enemy you like. That way we can say "GF see you next time" in local whoever looses the battle.
Togakure	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:31:00 - [237] Originally by: Draahk Chimera Please dont give me reason to dislike you BoB. It always feels better fighting an enemy you like. That way we can say "GF see you next time" in local whoever looses the battle. lol, i'll remember for the next time i see you in space.
Rthor	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:31:00 - [238] Originally by: Wee Dave Which special person decided attacking BoB's home space was a good idea? Probly BOB alt.
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:31:00 - [239] anyway i think the time for talkin is now over, for good or for bad were now at war, i wish bob the best of luck and i hope that both sides will enjoy nice clean lag less fights, and that no matter the outcome not to much ill will, will (ohh god that reads bad but cant think of another way to say it) be caused from it. Im sure that both bob and sa play eve for the pvp....so lets just drop all the resentment and enjot the fights. _____ "When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept
Caanan	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:38:00 - [240] All I have to say to SA is. Bring it.

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