These sites are BADLY designed.

I was just doing a lesser guristas site in my 8/10 ded tanked tengu, then suddenly I got insta popped.

Explanation was that rats shot the labs and the explosion killed me. well i had 85/80 kin/therm resits, and the site was guristas. if a 1b ship gets insta popped in the easiest high sec site then it's NOT worth doing in any way or shape, especially not for the crappy implants.

cya.

Checked ghost sites in test system. Experience is strange so far: detonation is happening almost immediately after single opened (or exploded) can. Plus there are 5-6 warp scrambling NPCs. Tanked SOE cruiser (40k ehp, 71-80 armor resists) goes into half armor in seconds, frig just explodes. What is this I don't even...

Here is what is going to happen in hisec: the hordes of newbs to whom these sites are the intended audience will flock in and get blapped over and over again.

The forums will fill with hisec pubbie tears about how broken these sites are.

Meanwhile, those of us that can fly the Stratios or other suitable exploration fit cruiser will flood hisec for the easy content and make bank. The harder sites will almost never get finished because the combination of ridiculously short timer and hacking game difficulty pretty much guarantees the rats will appear before the first can is ever finished.

Sure it will... unless you're capable of making some simple risk/reward assesment.

Why should you NOT bother with Ghost Sites?

- they're randomly spawned = you may not find any while you're logged in
- everyone can see them if just looks for them = you'll be competing with the guy who undocked 30 seconds earlier & everyone else in local
- the first player to arrive triggers a random hidden timer = the NPC may spawn before you're done or even have a chance to try
- the loot is destroyed if you fail to hack it = the sites may be spoiled by failed hacks even before you start trying
- the NPC will be powerful enough so only strong ships can withstand them = you risk getting killed by vicious NPCs unless you bring a powerful fit which would be better used elsewhere
- NPCs have no bounty nor loot = if you miss, you totally miss
- drops are random = even if you do everything right, you may get only carp, supercrap or ubercrap for your efforts
- hisec will not get BPC nor anything high grade = even if you try, you're assured to not get anything worth it, never

Don't know you, but I like to log out feeling like I accomplished something...

With my small sample size I suppose its possible I was just extremely unlucky. But every site I went into I was the first one there. I was able to blitz through them because of max virus strength. But getting all 4 cans in a small site was almost impossible.

True enough. Should one decide to run hisec sites in a frigate, I would recommend just grabbing a stack of T1 exploration frigates and using those. Otherwise, you gonna lose a lot of stuff. The timer WILL screw you half the time. As for less secure space, a Stratios really is the best choice. Frankly, its the best choice everywhere.

But I would still like to see a more predictable timer. Not a lot more predictable. Just a little bit more.

Just to make sure I have this straight...The container explosion itself will one shot any ship with bonuses to analyzers.

Will there be concord/security/faction standing hits for entering these sites in high sec and if not why does your trailer lie?

- Not sure if frigs or destroyers will be viable here unless you don't mind loosing them.

Meh, I was looking forward to going into these in highsec in a massively buffer tanked battleship, failing them on purpose, then looting all the player wrecks created by the explosion.

Might not be able to do that now :(

Somewhat unfortunate that these are just smash and grab type activities. I was hoping for a bit of combat/hacking to make things interesting. Beyond scramming you so you get hit by the explosion, what is the purpose of the NPCs? Why do they not take any damage from the explosion? Why not have them spawn or have a chance to spawn when you start hacking or defeat the first defense node in the minigame? I guess we will have to see how these shape up in the future.

Yeah, but there's a big difference between causing chaos for fun and causing it for profit. I prefer the latter.

i'm interested to see how big the explosions are in null/w-space

Fantastic. So because the rats do tackle, eating the explosion isn't supposed to be total hell death. But then the explosion happens and the rats take off?