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Shaok Rikku Fox Clan Imperial Consortium 2	Posted - 2013.10.21 04:14:00 - [1] - Quote Im curious how WH corps incentivize it corp to log off in their POS inside of the WH rather than going out and logging off in a station? Our directors have been musing over this and the only things coming to our minds are that of negative reinforcement which we can't use as our CEO says no to making this a mandate.
Comy 1 Interstellar eXodus 136	Posted - 2013.10.21 04:21:00 - [2] - Quote The big question is: Why would you want to log out in (what I assume) high sec? Nothing of value to do there, and it's a pain in the ass to get back in. If your members don't want to be in the hole, your organisation probably lack in either group activities or team spirit. There is no way that you can solve this by forcing it upon your members. Just do your thing, and try to have some sort of daily activity, whether it is mining/gas harvesting/site running or gank hunting together. It doesn't have to be something fancy, just enough to make your dudes feel like they are missing out if they are not there. If they still don't care, they might not be the dudes you want in your corp.
Iyokus Patrouette End-of-Line 20	Posted - 2013.10.21 04:25:00 - [3] - Quote Eeerr. . . There are no stations in wormholes? . . so your corps use a PoS so they don't have to scan for an entrance / exit every time they want to come into the hole. Also if you are operating this way, you are doing it wrong and you make me sad. If they are worried about people stealing things from the pos make secure hangers, restrict roles, use multiple pos'. The incentive is you don't have to scan for a high sec every single time, the horror of scanning down those chains if we worked that way. Join End-of-Line, -EOL, today, and kill your CEO! (Terms and conditions apply.)
Sith1s Spectre Sky Fighters 202	Posted - 2013.10.21 05:29:00 - [4] - Quote I think you need to establish that from the moment you recruit people you make it clear what your expectations are. Sure we have people going out in shore leave it diving for various reasons but you need to be up front with them. For example how do you expect to react to a potential threat/defend your assets if everyone is outside? Just something for you and your members to think about Sith Sky Fighters are now accepting WH Space Merc Contracts https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3737774#post3737774
Batelle RisingSuns 218	Posted - 2013.10.21 06:12:00 - [5] - Quote probably you need to make it so that they can get what they need, or they can bring what they need, into the hole with them. Fighting is Magic
Senn Denroth Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 105	Posted - 2013.10.21 06:19:00 - [6] - Quote Shaok Rikku wrote: Im curious how WH corps incentivize it corp to log off in their POS inside of the WH rather than going out and logging off in a station? Our directors have been musing over this and the only things coming to our minds are that of negative reinforcement which we can't use as our CEO says no to making this a mandate. Because we can make between 400-600mill / hour very easily. Plus we just don't care about anything anymore really.
Bloemkoolsaus Viperfleet Inc. Disavowed. 88	Posted - 2013.10.21 10:56:00 - [7] - Quote Comy 1 wrote: make your dudes feel like they are missing out if they are not there. This pretty much. It doesn't really matter what you do or what `rules` you make. If your people WANT to be there, they'll be there, if they don't, they won't.
Malception Cosmology Deadly Unknown 174	Posted - 2013.10.21 13:10:00 - [8] - Quote Torture, rap3, burning with hot irons, blackmail, terror, dripping acid on the skin, mutilation with electric drills and cutting out tongues.
Lloyd Roses Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 282	Posted - 2013.10.21 13:18:00 - [9] - Quote Largely depends on your wh aswell. if you live in a c3, you derped already. Either stay inactive or get a real wormhole (one with a wormhole-static). Run anoms, post your noctishold in corp after 30minutes of salvaging, wait 10 minutes until everyone gathered in your POS :D Or just get into your arazu and point something :) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3633385&#post3633385 - 15% more tank since the 1.1-patch.
Icarus Able Traverse Holdings 128	Posted - 2013.10.21 13:51:00 - [10] - Quote You kick them. If they arent willing to logoff inside the hole they arent willing to be in a wh.
Riel Saigo The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 48	Posted - 2013.10.21 13:57:00 - [11] - Quote I agree with the first comment. If you have good PvP ops or good money-making ops happening in your wormhole system - or along its static chain regularly, then people will automatically want to park their ships there. If you aren't that exciting or active, then they'll go elsewhere.
Shaok Rikku Fox Clan Imperial Consortium 2	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:03:00 - [12] - Quote Thank you everyone for your input, I appreciate it. I guess it boils down to us needing more FCs to farm our chains.
bubble trout Sky Fighters 74	Posted - 2013.10.21 16:49:00 - [13] - Quote If people feel they are missing out by not logging in home, then they will log in home. When I log in, get on ts3, and someone says "bubble grab your loki/sleip/etc we are gonna throw down in a few" I would hate to be out in hisec.
Aquila Sagitta Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 105	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:51:00 - [14] - Quote Its easy be active in your hole. If fun things are happening it will make people stuck out in kspace jelly Blue-Fire Best Fire
Andrew Jester Jester's Hole 4	Posted - 2013.10.22 16:49:00 - [15] - Quote We have a w-space static. If someone wants to log in k-space, they have to work for it.
Galen Darksmith Sky Fighters 55	Posted - 2013.10.22 17:12:00 - [16] - Quote [quote=Malception]rap3/quote] Rap is bad enough on its own, but rap cubed? You monster.
Torijace GRUMPS RESEARCH TEAM Army of Dark Shadows 3	Posted - 2013.10.22 18:39:00 - [17] - Quote Galen Darksmith wrote: [quote=Malception]rap3/quote] Rap is bad enough on its own, but rap cubed? You monster. Rap cubed.. the new water boarding coming soon to prisons near you...
Swordfingers Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 51	Posted - 2013.10.22 20:15:00 - [18] - Quote Malception wrote: Torture, rap3, burning with hot irons, blackmail, terror, dripping acid on the skin, mutilation with electric drills and cutting out tongues. Don't forget the comfy chair!
Pragda Verkarth Auron 0	Posted - 2013.10.23 15:23:00 - [19] - Quote Senn Denroth wrote: Shaok Rikku wrote: Im curious how WH corps incentivize it corp to log off in their POS inside of the WH rather than going out and logging off in a station? Our directors have been musing over this and the only things coming to our minds are that of negative reinforcement which we can't use as our CEO says no to making this a mandate. Because we can make between 400-600mill / hour very easily. Plus we just don't care about anything anymore really. How do you make 400-600 mil/hour???
Shaok Rikku The Scope Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.10.25 01:38:00 - [20] - Quote Pragda wrote: Senn Denroth wrote: Shaok Rikku wrote: Im curious how WH corps incentivize it corp to log off in their POS inside of the WH rather than going out and logging off in a station? Our directors have been musing over this and the only things coming to our minds are that of negative reinforcement which we can't use as our CEO says no to making this a mandate. Because we can make between 400-600mill / hour very easily. Plus we just don't care about anything anymore really. How do you make 400-600 mil/hour??? I can see that being done real easly in a C5 with an orginized corp doing esclations
chris elliot EG CORP 231	Posted - 2013.10.25 05:38:00 - [21] - Quote Shaok Rikku wrote: Pragda wrote: Senn Denroth wrote: Shaok Rikku wrote: Im curious how WH corps incentivize it corp to log off in their POS inside of the WH rather than going out and logging off in a station? Our directors have been musing over this and the only things coming to our minds are that of negative reinforcement which we can't use as our CEO says no to making this a mandate. Because we can make between 400-600mill / hour very easily. Plus we just don't care about anything anymore really. How do you make 400-600 mil/hour??? I can see that being done real easly in a C5 with an orginized corp doing esclations 2 dudes and some preparations you can do while drunk is more like it. Though at the 2 man scale its more like 1.5 bill each per hour.
7enn Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:13:00 - [22] - Quote Are you talking about doing sites still? It's getting kind of confusing. Are you drunk or are the dudes drunk. As far as preperations - you're kind of vague. You talking the standard cowboy outfit (with stetson) or is it more detailed.... like a racoon outfit with a lot of role play?? It is pretty much a math problem. 750 mil or so per quad escallation / # of dudes (1.3 multiplier if you wear a stetson) 1.2 bil for full site / # of dudes. The math gets tricky with more dudes. Once you get above 4 characters (we'll just use this as the minimum) then the isk / share goes down BUT the isk per time goes up (we'll bound the minimum time at 7 min - siege cycle being 5 min + some slop to slow down, align, eat some grapes and so on). If you add in the mini game at the end of the mag/radar (i think they have new names) then isk/site will go up some BUT the time per site will creep out to decades or eons (I think it is fortunate that the little box things all just blow up eventually, so CCP apparently built in a fail safe so bears can't get trapped in a mini game infiny loop-ta-doop).
chris elliot EG CORP 231	Posted - 2013.10.26 00:06:00 - [23] - Quote Haven't touched the minigame or a single can since it was released. Its easier and more fun to just farm the escalation and let the rest rot.
Deathly hope Cesaille Honestly We didnt know Surely You're Joking 1	Posted - 2013.11.28 13:22:00 - [24] - Quote Shaok Rikku wrote: Pragda wrote: How do you make 400-600 mil/hour??? I can see that being done real easly in a C5 with an orginized corp doing esclations You guessed correctly. :D
Shaok Rikku Black Storm Cartel Blackguard Mercenaries 2	Posted - 2013.12.04 07:26:00 - [25] - Quote Eh, doesn't really matter anymore. That corp Fox Clan has been thoroughly dismantled. It wasnt a very well run WH corp, and after the CEO managed to make all of the directors to stop trusting him and dislike him, we decided to dethrone him. It was like Game of Thrones meets Eve Online, except with more **** and less sex.
Kalel Nimrott Sky Fighters 430	Posted - 2013.12.04 09:56:00 - [26] - Quote But you always have ****, right?

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