Actually all the Caldari and Gallente subcapital ships are being V3d in the winter expansion if all goes as planned.

I do believe only a few ships are being completely remodelled, like the Scorpion, Maller, Raven etc. Most ships are just getting a reskin with the new shaders I think, which definitely doesn't take half as much time.

Well V3d usually means some kind of redesign, and the art vid part 2 shows a remodeled navy comet and incursus I believe.

Top stuff!

Gallente pilot here.

So the Rokh is going to look better than it already does?

Mind = blown.

Kinda of blurry but it really looks like the models are unchanged, they just have better textures and shaders a long with some custom skins probably being tested on them.

didnt they say custom logos on the ships as well?

why do I have the feeling that immersion is going on indefinite vacation?

My Hello Kitty Drake draws ever closer.
Exemplary.

My Raven...

Gurista or Hot Pink...

Choices, choices.

Don't forget Black. I'm thinking that Black will be popular to the point that the Goons will hold a Blackageddon or a "Lynchageddon" because a) only immature 12 year olds will run around in all Black ships and most immature 12 year olds are easy kills, and b) because they can create a few alts to cry "Blackageddon/Lynchageddon is racist!" in order to gain publicity over the event.

OTOH, there's a lot to be said for Pink, especially on a Thorax.

Don't forget Black. I'm thinking that Black will be popular to the point that the Goons will hold a Blackageddon or a "Lynchageddon" because a) only immature 12 year olds will run around in all Black ships and most immature 12 year olds are easy kills, and b) because they can create a few alts to cry "Blackageddon/Lynchageddon is racist!" in order to gain publicity over the event.

OTOH, there's a lot to be said for Pink, especially on a Thorax.

The moa, please CCP!


I think everyone here knows what i'm talking about

Don't forget Black. I'm thinking that Black will be popular to the point that the Goons will hold a Blackageddon or a "Lynchageddon" because a) only immature 12 year olds will run around in all Black ships and most immature 12 year olds are easy kills, and b) because they can create a few alts to cry "Blackageddon/Lynchageddon is racist!" in order to gain publicity over the event.

OTOH, there's a lot to be said for Pink, especially on a Thorax.

custom logos on ships

V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)

can u confirm that this wont require AUR.

It should require AUR. Its completely cosmetic.

Well if the potential exists to do it and its not a nex type thing I fully intend to make all of my ships bone white with gold trim.

Boring? Perhaps. But i'm all about the understated fashion.

Although an all Black Abaddon sounds sinister.

Kinda of blurry but it really looks like the models are unchanged, they just have better textures and shaders a long with some custom skins probably being tested on them.

V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)

V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)

While there are those that post well reasoned arguments to support exactly what you suggest, more than a few of us would rather those that really want some extra non-game affecting bling pay for it instead of everyone getting a subscription fee increase eventually.

Then there is the hard core crowd that say "You pay your sub for server access, all else is negotiable". If we were talking about something with potential game affecting consequences or a new area of game play, they would be wrong... but we are talking about a coat of paint so there is some validity in this.

consider leaving capital ships out and get us custom corp logos and skins for sub caps? pretty please?

I mean I'm not saying don't stop work on them, just that you can get those done later, plus no reason to leave out the new players/ GOD DAMN IT I WANT MY THUKKER TRIBE RIFTER

Now starts the era of ***** (wtf censored that word) Phallus skin.

Needs moar Minmatar

While there are those that post well reasoned arguments to support exactly what you suggest, more than a few of us would rather those that really want some extra non-game affecting bling pay for it instead of everyone getting a subscription fee increase eventually.

Then there is the hard core crowd that say "You pay your sub for server access, all else is negotiable". If we were talking about something with potential game affecting consequences or a new area of game play, they would be wrong... but we are talking about a coat of paint so there is some validity in this.

V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)

No.

I already paid my subscription. CCP knows now that double dipping is bad.. mmkay..

If my subcription goes to paying people for new content I aggree, no new content should be double dipped. But I don't want my subscription to pay custom cosmetic stuff, so, if additional resources need to be paid to add these skins I support them being paid by AUR.

V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)

I put a coat of paint on a super-tanked Abaddon I've got tricked out with t2 armour rigs and boosted by a slave set. It becomes immensely attractive bait because of that "simple coat of paint" - it allows my gang to control and attract enemy fire and optimally apply our remote reps to frustrate enemy action. Please don't tell me that isn't game effecting.

I refute the notion that any content in this game can be classified as "pure vanity" "bling" of the kind you describe. The whole attraction of eve is its a player led economic sandbox where everything matters.

Ok. I'm here. I support this statement fully and completely.

Confirming that everyone uses the "Look at" before determining whether or not to attack a ship.

Confirming that FC's call targets and primaries based on the paint job on the ship.

Also confirming that regardless of tank, other ships on the battlefield or active repping, FC's have no intention of changing targets if a ship has a paint job.

No chance at all that this would be a purely vanity item, since it obviously has definable combat value.

Now for the ultimate question: Do I need to edit this post to add a /sarcasm tag?

Let's see if CCP actually add something to the sandbox with ship skins rather than just attempting to further macrotransaction EVE. I guess we'll see if CCP really do care for the integrity of this game.


I can't agree with this, when CCP already have the PLEX system and also when I see arguments of a similar vain about how that extra microtransaction money could be used to further develop EVE gameplay that people want, that is not how it works in business.

You do realise that the EVE playerbase with their subs/PLEX'ing has allowed CCP to fund not just EVE, but two other games as well and now your trying to rationalise that they need more money from the EVE players. Take a look back at CCP's previous financial reports and you'll see that only a small percentage of the profit made actually went back into further developing EVE.

And yes I realise CCP needs to make money, but this bs about charging your playerbase yet more with microtransactions on top of what already exits (sub/PLEX) is just blatant money grubbing. Not to mention the fact that it dilutes the sandbox by removing what could be gameplay orientated content just to slap it in the cash shop.

V3 is the key that unlocks the good stuff. It's not the same as a remodeling for all the ships but it allows the art team to make ship skins and opens up the possibility for custom logos on ships once all the ships have it :)

Bolded and italicized fpr emphasis. We aren't talking about full skins here people. V3 allows the art team to make more detailed skins for ships, while the technology also allows the possibility of adding LOGOS to ships. Nowhere does that post say we will get to make our own custom skins.

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so there had better be the option to turn logos off, at least for other players' ships

maybe even a LOL button for spotting those who have no taste at all - "primary the dictor that looks fingerpainted"

also, isn't the hello kitty thing a little played out?

Not to trash talk you, but your entire point falls thru when you realize that most people DO use PLEX purchased with ISK to purchase NeX items. If you are money rich, but ISK poor... fine, spend the money. But for most they will use ISK to purchase items like this, which also increased demand for PLEX for those wishing to sell PLEX for ISK in the first place.

And Jade, with much respect for your opinion, but you're reaching.

Okay, two points based on your reply.

1) Regardless of how you cut or dice it, it is still microtransactions no matter what the rapping they come in is and as per your own example it's PLEX/ISK. The end result is the same and when boiled right down is still a microtransaction as it has a real world dollar value via Aurum from PLEX.
2) Based on your own comments regarding PLEX and ISK being used to buy these vanity items, tell me again why there is a need for Aurum?

The whole NEX Store items could have been delivered to the playerbase via sandbox gameplay and still be a PLEX/ISK sink if CCP had of chosen that path. I find it dissapointing when NEX Store items for example could have instead been purchased with LP and ISK that also required you to maintain a high rating for a certain faction before they could be worn. Then when someone saw that character the item would have meaning and would have added something to the game.

I'll ask you this, what would you be more proud to show off, something you have worked hard at acquiring or something you purchased with no effort involved?

Doe anyone remember when the argument against Ship Skins and Logo's was that they would be Pink with Hello Kitty Logo's.

No.

I already paid my subscription. CCP knows now that double dipping is bad.. mmkay..

This. Even if you forget about the "vanity" affecting gameplay there's still the problem of ccp making their customers pay twice.