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Mordenkainan
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Posted - 2006.02.01 19:40:00 -
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As I keep getting errors when trying to bug report this, i'll try and warn people here.
<--- Veteran of Lvl4's no problems with any changes before. 14mil Sps
Mission: Angel Surprise
Normally a easy and straight forward mission - not this time. Popped the cargo ship, got the spawn.
Took out the 3 Angel Legionaires and 1 BS then turned to the 5 Angel Centurions - which all of a sudden I note have a cruiser ship yet a bounty of 375k each (more than the BS bounty). Start firing with cruise (optimised ammo for Angels) and do...
35 damage.
Keep firing - could be inbetween MWD whatever - but even cruise with good missile skills does more than this. Back to base switch to Torps. Fly back out, attack and do..
20-30 damage.
hmm. Flyback (they aint threatening my tanking abilities at all - defo cruiser/bc damage coming in) - fit every wierd n wonderful weapon I can to my Raven.
2 Light Lasers
1 425m Rail
1 Hvy Launcher
1 Light Launcher
2 Cruise
1 Large Smartbomb
Re-engage - nothing is doing more than 50 damage - at all. The light lasers which hit Inties for 36-40 are doing - 2 dam.
Anyone else come across this? Can anyone properly bug report this for me as I cant access the proper procedure here (or ingame - and yes i've tried many times).
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.02.01 19:49:00 -
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Cloud of HAC, anyone?
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Mordenkainan
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Posted - 2006.02.01 19:56:00 -
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Possibly - i'll go back out and check
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Mordenkainan
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:03:00 -
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Arch Angel Centurion - Cruiser
They're firing piranha lights - nothing is doing beyond 50 damage to them and their shield regen reminds me of a Seraphim - but better - any damage is within 2-4 seconds healed.
Totally Bizarre.
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Marcus Firehawk
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Firehawk on 01/02/2006 20:24:10
Edited by: Marcus Firehawk on 01/02/2006 20:23:45
They are angel HACS and are relatively easy to take down with exp damage. I do angel surprise all the time and my cyclone fitted with 5 220mm II with fusion ammo and 3 heavy launchers with Havocs burn through them in a few minutes.
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Mordenkainan
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:24:00 -
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Thanks Marcus.
Had actually switched to Exp as it was the only main type I hadnt properly tried and as long as I catch them MWD they do go down (surely this is wrong though lol - Exp do least dam to shields).
But who am I to argue - silly bounties and one to remember - i'll adjust this title - but maybe CCP should adjust the title of Angel Centurion to HAC rather than just cruiser?
Food for thought.
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mimik
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Mordenkainan
Thanks Marcus.
Had actually switched to Exp as it was the only main type I hadnt properly tried and as long as I catch them MWD they do go down (surely this is wrong though lol - Exp do least dam to shields).
But who am I to argue - silly bounties and one to remember - i'll adjust this title - but maybe CCP should adjust the title of Angel Centurion to HAC rather than just cruiser?
Food for thought.
if u check the new naming conventions that came in at RMR anything which uses "arch angel" is the way to identify that it is an elite version of ship.
and will be an inty, AF or HAC.
in addition if u check resists on tech2 ships u will find that the traditional practice of using EM damage versus shields and expl versus armor doesn't apply.
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Marcus Firehawk
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:45:00 -
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Here are the resists for it that I found in the database and why I said explosive damage.
shield
90% em
72% exp
79% kin
85% therm
and same for the armor
90% em
72% exp
79% kin
85% therm
My tank holds just long enough against all 5 or 6 in the mission to kill 1 at a time, usually.
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Mordenkainan
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Posted - 2006.02.01 20:53:00 -
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Thanks for the advice folks - dont get to play as much as i'd like anymore (certainly since RMR was introduced) so thanks for the heads up mimik n marcus
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Brannor McThife
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Posted - 2006.02.02 04:32:00 -
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I love this mission. I do it in my Cerberus... kill the transport at 99km, wait for the spawn, drop a BM, then warp away. Warp back at 40km from BM, and proceed to kill the BS, then the Battlecruiser Legionnaires, then the HAC Centurions.
The extra 25% kinetic damage is sufficient to kill the HAC's...though it takes roughly 13-15 volleys each... (need to improve my missile damage a little).
It's probably the only mission that gives bounties anywhere near on par with 0.0 and lowsec.
-G
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Madscotsman
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Posted - 2006.02.02 10:35:00 -
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Explosive damage is generally the best to use against any Angel ship as it seems to be the weakest resistance they have across the board.
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Meathook
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Posted - 2006.02.02 12:09:00 -
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I have also had the "pleasure" of coming across the angel hac's now and then doing surveillance missions for republic fleet. As others said, until i didn't check the new name lists i didn't realize i was fighting hac's.
It is kinda crazy if they get within close range of a sniping tempest (what i use in lvl4's), they are strong enough to resist 2xlight missile attacks and 5 scout drones (new skills at lvl4 included), if you ain't using exp dmg. Hell, some BS and the like i have tackled would eventually go down with just lights and the scouts i mentioned, but these guys can soak the dmg better 
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LordChaos
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Posted - 2006.02.02 12:22:00 -
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6 Tech 2 Mega beams on APoc i break their tank easy and use tech 2 Exp drones.
they just take longer to go down but they do **** damage.
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cigi
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Posted - 2006.02.03 11:50:00 -
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I had this mission today. I have been doing lvl4's quite awhile now, but this was my first encounter of this mission.
This is my Raven set-up for it:
High:
6 Arbalest Heavy launchers with Havocs (Explosive)
2 T2 Medium Heavy Pulse
Medium:
Dread XL Shield Booster (or T2 XL)
Booster Amp
T2 EM, Thermal, Explosive and Vulnerability Hardeners
Low:
3 T2 PDU
2 T2 BCU
And 5 Hammerheads, but 5 Explosive drones would have been better.
I went for the Arch Angel Centurions first, as they seemed to do the most DMG.
Tank held up well, and the Centurions went down at a ok sort of speed.
Cigi
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2006.02.03 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Buraken v2 on 03/02/2006 16:55:57
Some stats:
Arch Angel Centurion
Bounty: 375,000 ISK
Sec. Reward: 0.0225%
DPS: 52.40hp/s (EM: 17hp/s, Expl: 28.60hp/s, Kin: 6.80hp/s, Therm: 0hp/s)
Optimal Range: 15.63km, Falloff: 21.88km, Tracking: 0.022rad/sec
Max. Attack Range: 52.73km
Missile Type: Piranha Light Missile
Missile Damage: EM: 0hp, Expl: 75hp, Kin: 0hp, Therm: 0hp
Missile Rate of Fire: 5 second(s)
Missile Velocity: 5,318m/s
Missile Flight Time: 7 second(s)
Maximum Distance: 38km
Explosion Radius: 40m
Explosion Velocity: 2,482m/s
Explosion Falloff: 1,500m
Shield: 1,700hp
Resistances: EM: 90%, Expl: 72%, Kin: 79%, Therm: 85%
Shield Boost Chance: 54%, Amount: 155hp, Duration: 5 second(s)
Armour: 1,200hp
Resistances: EM: 90%, Expl: 72%, Kin: 79%, Therm: 85%
Armour Repair Chance: 54%, Amount: 0hp, Duration: 10 second(s)
Hull: 1,300hp
Signature Radius: 150m
Orbit range: 21,094m
Orbit velocity: 200m/s
Maximum velocity: 1,600m/s
Ladar Sensor Strength: 17 points
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Alexi Borizkova
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Posted - 2006.02.03 21:49:00 -
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For me, it is six volleys of bane torpedoes and three heavy painter drones to take these badboys down, they are damned nasty. But, the torps do fairly well.
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