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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.02.02 23:36:00 -
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I have been working on a setup for the zealot to be a primary damage dealer, and a setup on a vengeance that will be tackling with 4 points of scramble. I would like to know what you think. We will mostly be anti-pirating in low sec.
Zealot Setup: 4x Heavy Pulse Laser II(multifrequency) 1x Medium named Nos
1x 10mn Afterburner II 1x X5 Prototype webber(86% web) 1x Named Tracking Disruptor
1x Medium Armor Repairer II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener I 3x Heatsink II 2x Capacitor Power Relay
I can switch out a heatsink for another CPR and my setup can run with everything running for 2 minutes instead of 1, but I lose about 50 DPS. Anyway with the target disruption i won't be getting hit much and won't be needing my repper often so the DPS is better
With this setup I have 348 DPS and will be webbing and target disrupting my target while the tackling vengeance puts 4 scramble points on the target.
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Here is the vengeances setup which I have posted in another thread.
2x Medium Pulse Laser II(Multifrequency) 2x Small named Nos
1x 1mn MicroWarpdrive I 2x Warp Scrambler I
1x Small Armor Repairer II 1x Micro Auxillary Power Core 1x 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates
With this setup I can run everything except the MWD(which i will only use to get in range of course) forever, and it gives me over 1300 armor, great speed, 4 points of warp scramble, and 45 DPS.
These setups give a final result of 393 DPS, 11.8 cap being drained per second, 4 points of scramble, the target having -40% tracking, being webbed, and being dead  
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.02 23:37:00 -
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Link both the zealot and vengence threads to my RMR post, let's get those on the list  --------------
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.02.02 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a Link both the zealot and vengence threads to my RMR post, let's get those on the list 
The vengeance one already is on your list listed as "Veangeance - Tackler setup"(i think thats what its called ******************** Join Public Channel "Christian Public Access" for great fellowship and fun |

Celek
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Posted - 2006.02.03 00:22:00 -
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then a vaga comes by and kills you both
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.03 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Celek then a vaga comes by and kills you both
And then a titan comes by and kills the vaga. Save the "this ship owns this ship" for the general forums. It doesn't belong in this thread. --------------
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dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2006.02.03 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Celek then a vaga comes by and kills you both
vaga no match for zealot :P
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.02.03 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Celek then a vaga comes by and kills you both
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.02.03 01:32:00 -
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But seriously what do people think of this? besides the on negative comment, does it suck? does it rock? or should i just go test it and post later? ******************** Join Public Channel "Christian Public Access" for great fellowship and fun |

Celek
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Posted - 2006.02.03 03:51:00 -
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its good but I suggets trying to fit in a 800mm steel plate II into the zealot setup for more survivaliblty as a some ships will give you quite hte hurting like an geddon with mgea pulses will hurt and a cerb will really hurt a raven with cuirse missiles will hurt to and even more with javilin torps
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Montero
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Posted - 2006.02.03 03:59:00 -
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made me look :(
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.02.03 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Celek its good but I suggets trying to fit in a 800mm steel plate II into the zealot setup for more survivaliblty as a some ships will give you quite hte hurting like an geddon with mgea pulses will hurt and a cerb will really hurt a raven with cuirse missiles will hurt to and even more with javilin torps
I'll try to play around with it a bit more, but i think I will come up short. ******************** Join Public Channel "Christian Public Access" for great fellowship and fun |

Vegeir
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Posted - 2006.02.03 06:07:00 -
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I feel jipped.
Originally by: Vegeir
Experience exists in EVE, it just isn't measured in numbers.
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Steakkbone
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Posted - 2006.02.03 07:43:00 -
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Edited by: Steakkbone on 03/02/2006 07:43:22 This thread fails to deliver.
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Barbicane
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Posted - 2006.02.03 07:46:00 -
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No boobies? 
Originally by: Spartan III [Edit] Changes the title for a bit until this gets some attention.
Sorry mate, I don't think that's gonna work. You can't say "boobies" in the title and then expect people to respond to a boring Zealot setup thread  |

Sakira LeCastantas
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Posted - 2006.02.03 08:33:00 -
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ZOMFG WHERE R T3H B00BIES!!1
My sig in Turbo-Mode
Sexyness Level 5  |

Pirahna Joe
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Posted - 2006.02.03 09:04:00 -
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Odda
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Posted - 2006.02.03 09:07:00 -
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Lol sex sels
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Aba Tor
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Posted - 2006.02.03 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan III Edited by: Spartan III on 03/02/2006 02:07:01 [Edit] Changes the title for a bit until this gets some attention. ...
Well u got me:P ... A wise man never plays TAG with a RINO |

Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.02.03 11:41:00 -
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Id seriously drop the CPRs Also train some more dmg related skills. As ur dps is quite low tbh. Id be inclined to go for an adaptive nano along side the thermal to boost u a bit. A plate to buffer the awful regen on the rep. TD dont work against anything that has a TC/TE, so id drop that also. Maybe a painter until ur skills are better.
My personal setup is
4 Pulse , 1 Nos AB,Web,Scram Rep,Therm,Nano,Plate,3 HS
That varies depending on exactly what im doing, but thats pretty much the standard Zealot setup.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:50:00 -
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I DEMAND BOOBIES! WHERE ARE THEM? ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Agent2 Holtze
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak I DEMAND BOOBIES! WHERE ARE THEM?
Yeah, hand em over!
Both are nice setups, but the zealot doesn't have that many variations that are used alot, i'm currently playing around trying to fit a mwd and get enough cap to manage longer fights, but i really havn't had the time lately.
"We are twice armed if we fight with faith." Plato
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Ikvar on 03/02/2006 15:47:35 You don't need that many CPR, I would recommend you run your lows something like
1x Med Rep II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener (it's worth training for the T2 ones) 1x CPR 1x 400mm Plate (Tungsten or Steel II, they're both relatively cheap) 3x Heat Sink II
You also may want to look into using beams, solo I'd always go with Pulse and a NOS but with a tackler you may want to look at 4x Heavy Beam II in the highs, the DPS is almost identical and you get the bonus of a lot more flexibility with the range. That said, I get around a 15km (ish) optimal with HAC 5 and Sharpshooter 5 with Pulse loaded with multis so it's not bad.
Oh and you may want to train your skills a bit higher before you fly an expensive Zealot, I mean I can push 450+ DPS in one.
Originally by: Avon I actually enjoy crafting in EQ2.
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Hammy Burgundy
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Posted - 2006.02.03 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hammy Burgundy on 03/02/2006 16:51:08
Originally by: Ikvar Edited by: Ikvar on 03/02/2006 15:47:35 You don't need that many CPR, I would recommend you run your lows something like
1x Med Rep II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener (it's worth training for the T2 ones) 1x CPR 1x 400mm Plate (Tungsten or Steel II, they're both relatively cheap) 3x Heat Sink II
You also may want to look into using beams, solo I'd always go with Pulse and a NOS but with a tackler you may want to look at 4x Heavy Beam II in the highs, the DPS is almost identical and you get the bonus of a lot more flexibility with the range. That said, I get around a 15km (ish) optimal with HAC 5 and Sharpshooter 5 with Pulse loaded with multis so it's not bad.
Oh and you may want to train your skills a bit higher before you fly an expensive Zealot, I mean I can push 450+ DPS in one.
450 dps? i really dont think so... just let quickfit do the calculations with 4 heavy pulse and 4 heat sinks II's with maxed out skills and i got little over 420 dps...
or are you talking about faction stuff or t2 ammo?
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2006.02.03 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ikvar on 03/02/2006 18:13:59
Originally by: Hammy Burgundy Edited by: Hammy Burgundy on 03/02/2006 16:51:08
Originally by: Ikvar Edited by: Ikvar on 03/02/2006 15:47:35 You don't need that many CPR, I would recommend you run your lows something like
1x Med Rep II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener (it's worth training for the T2 ones) 1x CPR 1x 400mm Plate (Tungsten or Steel II, they're both relatively cheap) 3x Heat Sink II
You also may want to look into using beams, solo I'd always go with Pulse and a NOS but with a tackler you may want to look at 4x Heavy Beam II in the highs, the DPS is almost identical and you get the bonus of a lot more flexibility with the range. That said, I get around a 15km (ish) optimal with HAC 5 and Sharpshooter 5 with Pulse loaded with multis so it's not bad.
Oh and you may want to train your skills a bit higher before you fly an expensive Zealot, I mean I can push 450+ DPS in one.
450 dps? i really dont think so... just let quickfit do the calculations with 4 heavy pulse and 4 heat sinks II's with maxed out skills and i got little over 420 dps...
or are you talking about faction stuff or t2 ammo?
1. Quickfit seems quite inaccurate. 2. Add my 5% implant onto the calcs you're doing.
It's probably not 450+ DPS, I just plucked that number out of the air. Looking at it 430 - 440 would probably be more sensible, however my point still stands that the OP's DPS is rather low.
Also, POST WITH YOUR MAIN
Originally by: Avon I actually enjoy crafting in EQ2.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2006.02.04 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Hammy Burgundy
450 dps? i really dont think so... just let quickfit do the calculations with 4 heavy pulse and 4 heat sinks II's with maxed out skills and i got little over 420 dps...
or are you talking about faction stuff or t2 ammo?
i can get 581 DPS 
and iky is right ops DPS seems quite low even with tech II gear.
and i agree post with your main :)
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hanns
Originally by: Hammy Burgundy
450 dps? i really dont think so... just let quickfit do the calculations with 4 heavy pulse and 4 heat sinks II's with maxed out skills and i got little over 420 dps...
or are you talking about faction stuff or t2 ammo?
i can get 581 DPS 
and iky is right ops DPS seems quite low even with tech II gear.
and i agree post with your main :)
I think we all agree now that the Devs should nerf Hans ******************** Join Public Channel "Christian Public Access" for great fellowship and fun |

Muthsera
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Posted - 2006.02.10 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Muthsera on 10/02/2006 20:36:02
Originally by: Hanns
Originally by: Hammy Burgundy
450 dps? i really dont think so... just let quickfit do the calculations with 4 heavy pulse and 4 heat sinks II's with maxed out skills and i got little over 420 dps...
or are you talking about faction stuff or t2 ammo?
i can get 581 DPS 
and iky is right ops DPS seems quite low even with tech II gear.
and i agree post with your main :)
Hanns my friend. You got entirely to much money. Don't go about posting dps based on fraction gear and high isk implants. But 581 is around what I get on my bs. But damn boy. I whould love that on my hacs.
Edit: Forgot what I was really going to say. Beside Nerf Hanns. 
Now. You do this all wrong. Your not doing the gang right. If you do ganks trying to do everything on the zealot you are losing out on many targets. Dedicate your gangs. Zealot is only good for one thing. Taking somewhat amount of heat AND GIVING PAIN. If your target survives longer than 30 seconds. your doing something wrong. Either you shouldn't run that gang whit to few ppl. Or your not setting up your gang correctly according to dedicated tasks. Getting all this to work proporly is an art. Don't go about letting the zealot do everything. You will never achive that and more often than not your end up losing the zealot. My thoughs |

WiseMagic
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Posted - 2006.02.15 11:55:00 -
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4x hvy pulse II 1x med NOS 10mn AB, Web&Scram med rep, 55% thermal hardner, T2 energized adaptive nano, 3x heatsink II, cap relay
or u go drop 1 heatsink and use a dmg control
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Asurix
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Posted - 2006.04.05 06:57:00 -
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actually, I can't figure out your DPS. With 4 heavy pulse II HAC 4 and spec 4 and 1 HS I get 280DPS. I'm sure it can get higher but THAT high? (2 HS 330 DPS)
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Cryselle
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Posted - 2006.04.05 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Cryselle on 05/04/2006 08:18:43
Originally by: Asurix actually, I can't figure out your DPS. With 4 heavy pulse II HAC 4 and spec 4 and 1 HS I get 280DPS. I'm sure it can get higher but THAT high? (2 HS 330 DPS)
x 1.25 (HAC V) x 1.25 (Med Energy Turret) x 1.10 (Med Pulse Spec) x 1.15 (Surgical Strike) x 1.05 (5% Implant)
Don't forget the RoF Skills / Implants
3 x Faction HS
And yes, 550+ DPS on a Zealot achieved 
PS: And don't forget your Conflag Crystals at home
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