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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:02:00 -
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Hi.
Sorry that I am a newb at politics but I am just curious after having seen the galaxy map. PA and NBSI are friends, yea? And FE and 5 are now NAP/friends too, yea?
So, NBSI and PA are up above in a corner sandwiched by FE and 5. What will be going on soon? I mean, (I imagine) that travelling from North to Empire is going to be very difficult and also, dont think there is anywhere to run (cant see any path in the map).
Any comment? ----------------
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Yazoul Samaiel on 03/02/2006 13:10:02 1 st It is going to be a foursome action  "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Artemis Drake
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:08:00 -
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Perhaps they will try to go through Deklein? And there to Pure Blind to Empire.
Who knows 
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hi.
Sorry that I am a newb at politics but I am just curious after having seen the galaxy map. PA and NBSI are friends, yea? And FE and 5 are now NAP/friends too, yea?
So, NBSI and PA are up above in a corner sandwiched by FE and 5. What will be going on soon? I mean, (I imagine) that travelling from North to Empire is going to be very difficult and also, dont think there is anywhere to run (cant see any path in the map).
Any comment?
They seems to be rolling along fine since ROA & other including myself arnt holding certain gates, most the peeps who dislike the 5 move are the guys off the ground who do the donkey work. _______________________________________
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:19:00 -
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Empire is over rated :P
You can spend months in 0.0 without an issue..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:24:00 -
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thee are routes from venal and branch through IRON territory to empire, going from BKG to torrinos (thorugh venal) is 1 jump shorter than going from BKG to Jita through tribute
i also havent seen much industrial traffic from PA/NBSI in tribute for weeks
i assume they already have been taking the route to Torrinos for quite some time due to the .5. presence/gangs in h-pa and tribute
as for politics, who knows, atm it looks like PA/NBSI is mostly coming to tribute to fight us, while most of our corps take a more defensive stance (because they dont want to actively kill NBSI/PA ) or go south to fight Morsus Mihi and the occasional SNU
.5. and F-E seem to do some resting, while F-E still has the need to have a larger pvp contingent present in south for ls-jep and morsus mihi mostly, while others defend tribute now from PA/NBSI gangs
i find it pretty funny that its mostly PA/NBSI doing most of the aggressions atm , not that i blame them tough
this is my personal take on the current situation
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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pk blinder
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:33:00 -
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Pretty much spot on. You can live in 0.0 for an amazingly long time if well set up, even as a soloer, although I'm not going to give any more insight into how! If you have access to refining and production facilities, then you are pretty much sorted as you only need to run covert ops ships to empire with loot / minerals and come back with BPCs. Access to Tech 2 ships is a bit tough though! There are quite a few routes to empire and they are not permacamped by any means. Some scouts, a freighter at quite time and no worries on the logistics fronts.
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Invisible Touch
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz thee are routes from venal and branch through IRON territory to empire, going from BKG to torrinos (thorugh venal) is 1 jump shorter than going from BKG to Jita through tribute
i also havent seen much industrial traffic from PA/NBSI in tribute for weeks
i assume they already have been taking the route to Torrinos for quite some time due to the .5. presence/gangs in h-pa and tribute
as for politics, who knows, atm it looks like PA/NBSI is mostly coming to tribute to fight us, while most of our corps take a more defensive stance (because they dont want to actively kill NBSI/PA ) or go south to fight Morsus Mihi and the occasional SNU
.5. and F-E seem to do some resting, while F-E still has the need to have a larger pvp contingent present in south for ls-jep and morsus mihi mostly, while others defend tribute now from PA/NBSI gangs
i find it pretty funny that its mostly PA/NBSI doing most of the aggressions atm , not that i blame them tough
this is my personal take on the current situation
Mostly correct, though imho I think we are not looking for F-E kills, and i have seen 3 roaming F-E frig gangs from S-E to BKG and back.
PA gangs in lower venal have some skirmishes with [5] I think, and some [5] npcer kills also.
Looks like its a wait and see situation. I think only HUN and EVER are mostly active against PA, also some NBSI vs F-E action in northern pipe near S-E, but not sure though, not online too much lately.
Every day we stand is another day for PA
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: SinBin
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hi.
Sorry that I am a newb at politics but I am just curious after having seen the galaxy map. PA and NBSI are friends, yea? And FE and 5 are now NAP/friends too, yea?
So, NBSI and PA are up above in a corner sandwiched by FE and 5. What will be going on soon? I mean, (I imagine) that travelling from North to Empire is going to be very difficult and also, dont think there is anywhere to run (cant see any path in the map).
Any comment?
They seems to be rolling along fine since ROA & other including myself arnt holding certain gates, most the peeps who dislike the 5 move are the guys off the ground who do the donkey work.
Hey, I didn't at first like the move either, but I don't smack my own alliance about it on eve-o. If you feel so strongly just leave.
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Kahlan
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:54:00 -
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i Shall tell you what is happening.
We are waiting to see if G/Iron really want to get involved in a conflit that does not concern them. Once we know, we shall see what sort of price they are willing to pay to be a meat shield for PA/NBSI, and it shall be a high one.
Fear me for I am the winged angel of death, Kahlan |
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kahlan Once we know, we shall see what sort of price they are willing to pay to be a meat shield for PA/NBSI, and it shall be a high one.
"And the Skies shall rain fire and the seas will be red as Blood" "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:04:00 -
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g/iron would be absolute fools to get involved in this conflict, but I spose with BoB busy elsehwere, they may think they got a chance vs 5/fe becasue 5s obvious support wont be available.
But losing ships, and putting yourself under maybe future pressure fr your home regions, is just silly to save such non entitys as PA and NBSI.
KIA Killboard KIA Piccys
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kahlan i Shall tell you what is happening.
We are waiting to see if G/Iron really want to get involved in a conflit that does not concern them. Once we know, we shall see what sort of price they are willing to pay to be a meat shield for PA/NBSI, and it shall be a high one.
Being a meat shield for PA/NBSI against .5 can hurt I tell ya.... and totaly useless cus PA/NBSI do not deserve it.. - POST WITH YOUR MAIN!
This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way. - |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:09:00 -
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Tbh, does anyone think PA is savable?
And, if you do, does anyone think they deserve it?
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:11:00 -
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What Balazs Simon said  "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 03/02/2006 14:28:40
Originally by: Kahlan i Shall tell you what is happening.
We are waiting to see if G/Iron really want to get involved in a conflit that does not concern them. Once we know, we shall see what sort of price they are willing to pay to be a meat shield for PA/NBSI, and it shall be a high one.
Lol? We a "meathshield"?
Concerning this northern situation, u will see a post soon [tm]
The north shall burn...
-G- Pink Power
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4thekill
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ g/iron would be absolute fools to get involved in this conflict, but I spose with BoB busy elsehwere, they may think they got a chance vs 5/fe becasue 5s obvious support wont be available.
But losing ships, and putting yourself under maybe future pressure fr your home regions, is just silly to save such non entitys as PA and NBSI.
G is shooting at F-E already.. so that leaves IRON.
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Kalissa
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:33:00 -
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I have no idea if G/Iron will get involved with this, there's a huge temptation to say "hey not our problem" and I could totally understand that but personally speaking though I'd say Iron even though they'd be loathe to admit it have a vested interested in the alliance being on the border with Deklien at least being a NAP'd/Neutral alliance. If Branch/Tenal were to fall to 5 and FE forces, then their backyard in Deklein becomes the new front line. I hardly think 5 and FE will respect those borders. Thats the thing about wars like this, willing or not, people can get dragged into it sooner or later. Time will tell on this I suppose.
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Kalissa
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ g/iron would be absolute fools to get involved in this conflict, but I spose with BoB busy elsehwere, they may think they got a chance vs 5/fe becasue 5s obvious support wont be available.
But losing ships, and putting yourself under maybe future pressure fr your home regions, is just silly to save such non entitys as PA and NBSI.
The thing though Eddz, if PA and NBSI areas fall, where do you think 5 and FE will look for their next conquests? Only two places left, Deklein and Fade.
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Kalened
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kalened on 03/02/2006 14:41:11 Well i would be surprised if we let 5 and FE remain up north at this point but then with the shifting world of politics in EVE who really knows. I believe all 4 alliances that are involved are all -10 on my overview. In any case its nice to have so many targets so close.
I'm pretty sure we dont care what happens to PA. FE sealed its fate when it nap'd 5 not because we support PA and NBSI but more so for the fact that 5 needs to die.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened Well i would be surprised if we let 5 and FE remain up north.
mhm.. you didnt get much choice in it last we moved into your area.. what makes you think you:
a) will get a say in the matter now? b) be able to control the extra 4 or 5 regions, given the problems you have holding you own area when someone decides to take it?
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 03/02/2006 14:56:11 Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 03/02/2006 14:53:35
Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 03/02/2006 14:41:11 Well i would be surprised if we let 5 and FE remain up north at this point but then with the shifting world of politics in EVE who really knows. I believe all 4 alliances that are involved are all -10 on my overview. In any case its nice to have so many targets so close.
I'm pretty sure we dont care what happens to PA. FE sealed its fate when it nap'd 5 not because we support PA and NBSI but more so for the fact that 5 needs to die.
LOL I find this amusing. G & IRON sat back watched the entire conflict between 5 and F-E, and didn't lift a finger to aid. When F-E came to the decision of continuing the fight or nap'ing 5, once again G/IRON snubbed F-E.
You "let" 5 stay too long, and now you deem 5 and F-E enough of a threat to not let us "remain up north."
Oh wait, but was it always your plan to sit back and watch 5 and F-E tear each other up to the point where both sides are weak... guess things didn't go the way as predicted
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IWasMadeForThis
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Recluse Viramor LOL I find this amusing. G & IRON sat back watched the entire conflict between 5 and F-E, and didn't lift a finger to aid. When F-E came to the decision of continuing the fight or nap'ing 5, once again G/IRON snubbed F-E.
Perhaps G wanted to see how you would do and what you were made of? And maybe now they've found out.
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Kalened
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kalened on 03/02/2006 15:03:03
Originally by: Recluse Viramor Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 03/02/2006 14:56:11 Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 03/02/2006 14:53:35
Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 03/02/2006 14:41:11 Well i would be surprised if we let 5 and FE remain up north at this point but then with the shifting world of politics in EVE who really knows. I believe all 4 alliances that are involved are all -10 on my overview. In any case its nice to have so many targets so close.
I'm pretty sure we dont care what happens to PA. FE sealed its fate when it nap'd 5 not because we support PA and NBSI but more so for the fact that 5 needs to die.
LOL I find this amusing. G & IRON sat back watched the entire conflict between 5 and F-E, and didn't lift a finger to aid. When F-E came to the decision of continuing the fight or nap'ing 5, once again G/IRON snubbed F-E.
You "let" 5 stay too long, and now you deem 5 and F-E enough of a threat to not let us "remain up north."
Oh wait, but was it always your plan to sit back and watch 5 and F-E tear each other up to the point where both sides are weak... guess things didn't go the way as predicted
Honestly since i have no say in anything i don't know why we didnt get involved. I think it had more to do with our attitude toward PA than anything though. FE chose to help defend PA and that was your choice and when you chose to join with 5 and help that is your choice too. I'm sure your leadership was aware of the ramifications it would have and the corps leaving FE are aware of it as well and thats why they are leaving. Like i said you're all red to us so i'm sure we dont really care what happens. Its just a target friendly environment at the moment and thats something we like.
But like woody says i have no clue on whats really going on. I'm just at work bored and pondering the same things you all are.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Recluse Viramor Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 03/02/2006 14:56:11 Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 03/02/2006 14:53:35
Originally by: Kalened Edited by: Kalened on 03/02/2006 14:41:11 Well i would be surprised if we let 5 and FE remain up north at this point but then with the shifting world of politics in EVE who really knows. I believe all 4 alliances that are involved are all -10 on my overview. In any case its nice to have so many targets so close.
I'm pretty sure we dont care what happens to PA. FE sealed its fate when it nap'd 5 not because we support PA and NBSI but more so for the fact that 5 needs to die.
LOL I find this amusing. G & IRON sat back watched the entire conflict between 5 and F-E, and didn't lift a finger to aid. When F-E came to the decision of continuing the fight or nap'ing 5, once again G/IRON snubbed F-E.
You "let" 5 stay too long, and now you deem 5 and F-E enough of a threat to not let us "remain up north."
Oh wait, but was it always your plan to sit back and watch 5 and F-E tear each other up to the point where both sides are weak... guess things didn't go the way as predicted
If you have zero clue about whats going on behind the curtains i would suggest you stop posting. Now.
-G- Pink Power
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kalissa Edited by: Kalissa on 03/02/2006 14:39:54
Originally by: KIAEddZ g/iron would be absolute fools to get involved in this conflict, but I spose with BoB busy elsehwere, they may think they got a chance vs 5/fe becasue 5s obvious support wont be available.
But losing ships, and putting yourself under maybe future pressure fr your home regions, is just silly to save such non entitys as PA and NBSI.
The thing though Eddz, if PA and NBSI areas fall, where do you think 5 and FE will look for their next conquests? Only two places left, Deklein and Fade, you can't seriously think they'll stop and respect the Iron/G borders do you?
to be honost what do we need to do with 7 or 8 regions, I think that is to much by far, F-E didn't had any intensions to take space, we only took back what we lost a short time ago.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Vince Draken on 03/02/2006 15:05:23 nm, saw above post
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 03/02/2006 15:10:23 If G/Iron do get involved in this, they better hope the SA conflict lasts a long time. Because if it doesnt wouldnt surprise me at all if BoB and ASCN turn up on the door to bolster 5, mand if that hppens there would be hell to pay , and the whole Universe will be one very very large BG
Wander what will bring V RA and SA and Fix in aswell lol
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PASTOR TROY
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Edited by: KIAEddZ on 03/02/2006 15:10:23 If G/Iron do get involved in this, they better hope the SA conflict lasts a long time. Because if it doesnt wouldnt surprise me at all if BoB and ASCN turn up on the door to bolster 5, mand if that hppens there would be hell to pay , and the whole Universe will be one very very large BG
Wander what will bring V RA and SA and Fix in aswell lol
Isn't there a good chance that if G/Iron does nothing this would happen anwyay? G/Iron don't appear to be very well liked.
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.02.03 15:27:00 -
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So if we spread a rumor that a lost jove titan is hidden in the regions around Venal... hmm... that might bring more ppl  |
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