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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 09:35:00 -
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CCP has just announced that they are introducing a new deployable structure, intended solely for wormhole space.
The sleeper beacon can be anchored on the hostile/enemy side of a wormhole and when activated, it will pull sleeper sites from a neighbouring system into your home system at a rate of 1 every 15 minutes.
Once activated, the beacon will appear on the overview and allow anyone to warp to it (similar to cyno mechanics).
... Okay so i just made that up but what do you think? Would such a device be good or bad for wormhole space in general? +1 |

Gregor Northman
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.25 10:07:00 -
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Link? |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 10:10:00 -
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LINK Sleepers go crazy for it! +1 |

Kalel Nimrott
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2013.10.25 10:32:00 -
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How arr you going to pull a c3 site to a c5?, can that be done? The more I think of it, more I like. |

Caius Beriat
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 10:57:00 -
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Heh, it's a crazy idea, but I like it.
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Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
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Posted - 2013.10.25 11:11:00 -
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could become a conflict driver of sorts I suppose.
*Your hole has been dry for a week *Open a hole to a similar class hole *Notice a homing beacon is anchored in system *Grabs the Torch and pitchforks "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |

Chitsa Jason
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:33:00 -
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The main problem I see is time zones. You can form 20 man gang in your prime time and syphoon the anoms from others even larger alliances than your own. If they dont have anyone online they cant do much. Other than this one I like the general idea. CSM8 Member Twitter:-á@ChitsaJason Skype: Casparas
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:39:00 -
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I see your point chitsa but the group who had their sites stole would just have to steal sites from someone else. It would just be like a big tug of war  +1 |

Ivain Freir
Aggressive Behaviours Nap or War
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:11:00 -
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Is there any need of this kind of change ? I thought WH people relied on their statics to farm ? |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:18:00 -
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Ivain Freir wrote:Is there any need of this kind of change ? I thought WH people relied on their statics to farm ?
That generally true in lower class wormholes but not for c5 & c6 wormholes.
I just though it would be a great conflict and content creator. If we say one of these go up in our system, you can bet your arse we would try to fight off the invader instead of letting them take billions from us.  +1 |

Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:32:00 -
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Since everyone in C5/C6 would have one of these, I really don't see how this would drive conflict at all..
The bears you are looking to pull into a fight won't care, will orbit pos at 10.
Once you're done pulling in all their sites u mock them in local, and cycle your wh in frustration.
Bears open up their static. anchor their own module there and send u screenshots of their system filled with new anomalies.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:57:00 -
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Ya Huei wrote:Since everyone in C5/C6 would have one of these, I really don't see how this would drive conflict at all..
The bears you are looking to pull into a fight won't care, will orbit pos at 10.
Once you're done pulling in all their sites u mock them in local, and cycle your wh in frustration.
Bears open up their static. anchor their own module there and send u screenshots of their system filled with new anomalies.
If they still don't want to fight then what difference does it make? We will be richer and they will be inconvenienced. Mission success!
If bears are forced to pull sites into their own system it means they would be doing something proactive out in space which is entirely the point.
Anyway, i'm gonna bow out for a few hours as i really should get some work done. Keep up the good feedback o/ +1 |

bubble trout
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:59:00 -
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Ya Huei wrote: Bears open up their static. anchor their own module there and send u screenshots of their system filled with new anomalies.
I would cry.
Also Such a mod would mean no more people expoing, and people running expos are easier to kill than in their home. |

M Thomas
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
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Posted - 2013.10.25 15:04:00 -
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Module will create the situation where people never have to leave their POS system to PVE. The potential is there to farm 23/7 in a single system, futher turning wormhole space into null sec. |

Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2013.10.25 15:04:00 -
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Get cap escalation crew ready in your home system, cause you'll never run out of sites again! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=288823&find=unread - Looking for a handful of well-versed EU pilots. Especially interested in hyperactive dscanners. |

Lord Xyon
Team Hemi
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Posted - 2013.10.25 15:22:00 -
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I like my suggestion better.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=289936&find=unread
Deployable Unanchorer. Helps clean up the dead sticks, allows you to unanchor dead structures and haul them off to market. However, creates a timer so you know when items are going to be unanchored.
Run across this in a wormhole and you will know that you will have a fight at a certain time, or you will have free loot to scoop. |

7enn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.25 15:39:00 -
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I think he was just having fun with a convenient picture. I've been wrong before (not really, that's a feel good thing I like to throw out there now and again), but I don't think he was serious. |

Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.10.25 16:12:00 -
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How about this way around - the ability to "poison" someone's sites so when they start running them it spawns a wh to one of the wormhole systems your corp/alliance currently has an online POS in :D |

HeadWar
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:20:00 -
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Increase the timer to something like 12 hours to steal one site (or maybe 25% chance for each site in the target system?), and the wormhole has to stay open for that time, and it might get interesting. |

Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:58:00 -
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HeadWar wrote:Increase the timer to something like 12 hours to steal one site (or maybe 25% chance for each site in the target system?), and the wormhole has to stay open for that time, and it might get interesting.
Making it a really expensive durable anchorable structure (that you can scoop aswell), combined with some of the quoted modesty, I believe this is actually a very good idea.
Really expensive translates to billions for me. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=288823&find=unread - Looking for a handful of well-versed EU pilots. Especially interested in hyperactive dscanners. |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:59:00 -
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I'm confused. It seems to me this just becomes a way for most wormholers to get sites into their home system where they can run them safer than in their static.
Or is this yet another item designed to not really help wormhole space, but rather just help C5+ wormhole space? |

Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:14:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:I'm confused. It seems to me this just becomes a way for most wormholers to get sites into their home system where they can run them safer than in their static.
Or is this yet another item designed to not really help wormhole space, but rather just help C5+ wormhole space?
How I understood it, one possible process that could take place around such a hypothetical structure might be for example:
*Anchor hilariously expensive structure on a wormhole, wait for it to fill up your hole, while being warpable like a cyno and expensive like a cap, see if someone else wants to shoot it for the potential loot( or just let it create a killmail like a POS) and defend it, build up a trap around it, all while hoping that this thing will finish it's multi-hour cycle to draw anoms into your home. As an example, ehp could be in a region where a sieged dread would need several volleys to pop it.*
Thus, a risk of it not finishing its long cycle and being destroyed beforehand could result in a very expensive loss. And when you attack it - you'll most likely be getting a response, if you bait correctly.
The top ** section is just some random thoughts on how I would imagine such a thing behave, the bottom is what appears to be the OP's actual intention - people shooting each other next to some 'beacon'. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=288823&find=unread - Looking for a handful of well-versed EU pilots. Especially interested in hyperactive dscanners. |

7enn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:57:00 -
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This is just dumb and will end up being abused. It's a more gets more proposition. I can see it now. Bane will have his static, a C5 and c3 incoming and an open null to boot. He'll have 4 of these suckers going full tilt with his mega blob fleet just daring anyone to come and bother him while in the background his mega bear fleet plucks the loot from the sky. He'll have nags running C3's with carrier support. It would be easier if CCP just handed the largest 15 wh alliances a daily bucket of isk just for being the largest wh alliances.
You guys promply reject any mention of moon goo in wh space (which you should) and then you turn around and dream about making this work???
Blobs are bad, so let's implement a module that gives blobs a reason to be???
Yeah, this is just totally dumb. Please mock everyone who supports this idea. |

Poloturion
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.10.25 19:08:00 -
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It's ideas like this one that make me avoid going to the Features and Ideas sub-forum.
Small groups won't care about someone larger stealing from them since they can just take some sites later from an unoccupied static. It will remove the need to farm the static, reducing the ability to find pvp outside someone's own system. It gives you yet another timer to sit and stare at while doing nothing.
Doesn't quite match the idiocy of a wormhole stabilizer, but still closer than I like to see. Also, please fix POS. |

7enn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:13:00 -
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It's dumb. STOP IT!
You're distracting our CSMs into thinking about this instead of fixing what we've been asking to be repaired for years. I think they are getting caught up in the..... whatever it is that made twostep into a mellon head. Anyway, for the sake of all that is good and wholesome, stop messing with our representation. It's making them batty in the belfry. |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:28:00 -
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 +1 |

Bronya Boga
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:30:00 -
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So you wanna give a buff to bears? Hmmmm Host of podcast Down The Pipe www.downthepipe-wh.com Podcast Public Channel is DTP Podcast @drverikan on twitter [email protected] |

Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:50:00 -
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part of the problem. |

Winthorp
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:10:00 -
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Sigh, and i thought QT's thread would be worst i would have to read this week. |

Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:29:00 -
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Now ive heard some dumb crap suggested for WHs in my time.... But this? lol... i got nothing...
What WH space needs is DEFINITELY a way to be able to PVE more  Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |
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