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Jack Chapman
I'm in Space
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:00:00 -
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My subscription is about to end and with all the crap going on lately i think i won't renew it for now. But i haven't been following the forums that thoroughly so maybe i missed something.
Was there any useful response (NOT "we are looking into this" and then nothing for months) yet to any of these issues:
- ToS changes - Somer Blink Donation #1 - Somer Blink Donation #2 - Somer Blink RMT system - ignoring the CSM on every decision until there is a community outrage |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:03:00 -
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Bye o/
Can i have your stuff?? (first to ask! WOOHOOO \:D/) |

Jack Chapman
I'm in Space
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:05:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Bye o/
Can i have your stuff??
damn, i forgot to add the obvious to my post :( |

Tialano Utrigas
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:05:00 -
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Do these "issues" affect you in any way, shape or form? |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:07:00 -
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Tialano Utrigas wrote:Do these "issues" affect you in any way, shape or form? It's shaped like a dildo and I find that form highly intrusive.  Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:09:00 -
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As awful as those things are that you listed Jack, how do they personally affect you and your game subscription? See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:09:00 -
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Impatient are we ? It's quite known this is going to take probably a few months to settle as many many legal implications revolving around this issue and its complex permutations have to be analyzed.
A quick solution is possible, but you wouldn't probably like it at all.
But good riddance anyway. Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True ReligionGÇöseveral of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself, and cuts his throat if his theology isnGÇÖt straight. --Mark Twain |

Jack Chapman
I'm in Space
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:15:00 -
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how this affects or doesn't affect eve has been discussed ad nauseam and obviously there are different opinions about this, but that is not the point of this thread. If you want to talk about that or just troll please do it somewhere else. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:40:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote:how this affects or doesn't affect eve has been discussed ad nauseam and obviously there are different opinions about this, but that is not the point of this thread. If you want to talk about that or just troll please do it somewhere else.
Then why did you start the 9,000th duplicate thread about it ?
Everyone already knows who the Troll here is.
Also, the bolded part is indeed rather vague. I did 'talk about that', so why on Earth would you post, get a response directly about it, then tell responders to post elsewhere ?
Sorry, you opened up this can all by yourself. Idiotically too. Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True ReligionGÇöseveral of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself, and cuts his throat if his theology isnGÇÖt straight. --Mark Twain |

Arduemont
12 pound opinion
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:46:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote:Did I miss anything?
No.
Was that the answer you were looking for? "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
3139
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:48:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote:how this affects or doesn't affect eve has been discussed ad nauseam and obviously there are different opinions about this, but that is not the point of this thread. If you want to talk about that or just troll please do it somewhere else.
So you basically want noone to reply to your thread for any reason. Isnt that what a forum is for? #HuurDurrI'mRetarded -áGÖÑ-á
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Jack Chapman
I'm in Space
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:51:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Jack Chapman wrote:how this affects or doesn't affect eve has been discussed ad nauseam and obviously there are different opinions about this, but that is not the point of this thread. If you want to talk about that or just troll please do it somewhere else. Then why did you start the 9,000th duplicate thread about it ? Everyone already knows who the Troll here is. Also, the bolded part is indeed rather vague. I did 'talk about that', so why on Earth would you post, get a response directly about it, then tell responders to post elsewhere ? Sorry, you opened up this can all by yourself. Idiotically too.
*sigh*
"that" clearly refers to the effects of the issues on eve.
I just want to know if i have missed any official responses....
Arduemont wrote:Jack Chapman wrote:Did I miss anything? No. Was that the answer you were looking for?
well, i was hoping for a "ccp has finally dealt with this properly here: link, link, link"
but if they have not, then your no sadly is the right answer :(
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To Be Me
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:59:00 -
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Well thats better than me, i only have it subscribed to post on forums
I dont even play the game anymore lol |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:00:00 -
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Seriously.
You obviously feel this affects you somehow.
Why? |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:02:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote:how this affects or doesn't affect eve has been discussed ad nauseam and obviously there are different opinions about this, but that is not the point of this thread. If you want to talk about that or just troll please do it somewhere else.
what actually is the point of this thread Jack?
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:06:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote:
EDIT: NO YOU CAN NOT HAVE MY STUFF!
Then this is a useless thread. Give up the stuff and biomass you crybaby. Anyone who doesn't like the fact that you can now skirt the rules and "raffle" characters for real money is a moron living in a dream world. |

Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:09:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Seriously.
You obviously feel this affects you somehow.
Why?
Apparently he feels left out of something, and embracing some sort of drama gives his life meaning.
Anonymously...
In a video game...
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12135
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:11:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote: - ignoring the CSM on every decision until there is a community outrage
This is not what happens.
1 Kings 12:11
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:12:00 -
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I am Jacks complete lack of clue about the matter. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:19:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:I am Jacks complete lack of clue about the matter.
For real. Sigh. Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True ReligionGÇöseveral of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself, and cuts his throat if his theology isnGÇÖt straight. --Mark Twain |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:22:00 -
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It's simple guys. He disagrees with CCPs stance on serious matters and chooses not to give his cash over to a company that doesn't do things in a way he considers right. He's entitled to his opinion as much as someone that only buys free range eggs.
Personally I agree with him, I just like EVE a lot, so while I'm liquidating some accounts, I'm here to stay until they at least make one more faux pas. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:22:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Tialano Utrigas wrote:Do these "issues" affect you in any way, shape or form? It's shaped like a dildo and I find that form highly intrusive. 
What is a Thorax, Alex.
It's been stated, but have any of these issues affected your ability to have fun in the game? If so, maybe its time to reevaluate...
Also, I can haz stuf plz? My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
And Baddie Blog for new players: eve4newbies.blogspot.com |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
61085
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:23:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote:
well, i was hoping for a "ccp has finally dealt with this properly here: link, link, link"
but if they have not, then your no sadly is the right answer :(
OK then the frikkin' blunt answer is that there is no answer yet.
End. Of. Story. Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True ReligionGÇöseveral of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself, and cuts his throat if his theology isnGÇÖt straight. --Mark Twain |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:28:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I He's entitled to his opinion as much as someone that only buys free range eggs.
He stated no opinion. He asked a bunch of unanswerable questions.  Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True ReligionGÇöseveral of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself, and cuts his throat if his theology isnGÇÖt straight. --Mark Twain |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:30:00 -
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Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:Tialano Utrigas wrote:Do these "issues" affect you in any way, shape or form? It's shaped like a dildo and I find that form highly intrusive.  What is a Thorax, Alex. It's been stated, but have any of these issues affected your ability to have fun in the game? If so, maybe its time to reevaluate... Also, I can haz stuf plz?
Lol, good one. 
Unfortunately greed is only one of my many flaws of character and once I got something in my greasy little paws I won't give it back ever again. 
EDIT: Wait, who's Alex? This Alex? Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
147
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:42:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:EDIT: Wait, who's Alex? This Alex?
Alex
I might have to make another character and see how close to Trebek I can make him. My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
And Baddie Blog for new players: eve4newbies.blogspot.com |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:47:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote:Was there any useful response (NOT "we are looking into this" and then nothing for months) yet to any of these issuesGǪ
You left the question mark out of the question. That is scandalous!
For the record, Jester (CSM8 member) has a lot of thoughts up on his blog:
There is plenty of reading for you there. The short version is: it's complicated, CCP understands that the community is upset, and between CCP and the CSM there is a lot of NDA discussion happening to try and resolve the issue.
Handing out valuable trinkets to fan sites and community-run content organisers is always going to end up with CCP looking like they're playing favourites. Rather than raging up about it, see if you can figure out a way for CCP to say "thank you" to the various community organisations, that won't end up with someone losing their cool and rioting all over the forums.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Jack Chapman
I'm in Space
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:00:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Jack Chapman wrote: - ignoring the CSM on every decision until there is a community outrage
This is not what happens.
sorry, i guess i should have specified that to "the decisions about the ToS change, Somer donation #1 and #2" as i am not aware of a CCP response to the RMT issues yet
or were you informed about those before they happened? i thought the CSM was formed as a response to the BoB scandal to (among other things of course) prevent further favoritism?
Solstice Project wrote:I am Jacks complete lack of clue about the matter.
I don't know everything, that is why I am asking the community in this thread...
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: OK then the frikkin' blunt answer is that there is no answer yet.
End. Of. Story.
I did not say directly "yes" or "no" because it's much more complicated than that. Obviously. And if the answer was yes, there would have been a million links yammering about the answer. And they would probably be at the top of GD.
And you still had to ask ?????
Yes, i had to ask.
Because i wanted to be sure. Because i wanted there to be a good answer. Because i like EVE.
But my love for the game is not unconditional and the best thing i can do as a customer is to vote with my wallet.
So, i guess it is time for a break. CCP decides how long that break is.
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Batelle
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:07:00 -
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Jack Chapman wrote:how this affects or doesn't affect eve has been discussed ad nauseam and obviously there are different opinions about this, but that is not the point of this thread. If you want to talk about that or just troll please do it somewhere else.
oh come on. We've discussed how it affects EVE, but the question was how it affects you. And the answer is probably that it doesn't except in an abstract/academic sense only. So just admit you're disillusioned with the sandbox and otherwise no different than the 9000 other bitter-vets that came before you ever since T20. Fighting is Magic |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:05:00 -
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Quote:32. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.
CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.
Thread locked.
If you would like to check on the status of various issues, I recommend finding the pertinent thread(naughts) and looking for the blue dev tags. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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