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JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:37:00 -
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So David Reed, the guy who has taken over as chief marketing officer for the last few years has been hard at work making sure that CCP shines as a beacon of solid competence and trustworthiness. No longer do we need to worry about T20 scandels, Summers of Rage or anything like that. Today we are in safe hands and as players don't need to worry about CCP screwing loyal fans over...right.....right....RIGHT!!!!!
Well if you wanted to play Valkyrie on a PC, the wait may be longer than you think
Quote:GÇ£Hold on a second, we havenGÇÖt confirmed that ValkyrieGÇÖs on PC,GÇ¥ he interjected
Quote:GÇ£Well, I mean, PC is definitely in the cards. Is it definitely something thatGÇÖs there in 2014 on commercial launch day? I couldnGÇÖt answer that for you yet. We certainly could do it, but itGÇÖs still a question of whether we will.GÇ¥
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/24/very-odd-ccp-refuses-to-confirm-eve-valkyrie-on-pc/#more-174017
It might not be time to get out the pitchforks, but it does sound like a pretty dumb strategy to me. Oh and about it being on Oculus Rift?
Quote:GÇ£No, weGÇÖre not necessarily [basing our launch on when Oculus comes out],GÇ¥ he clarified. GÇ£While we canGÇÖt get into details here, there are other platforms that are available. It is technically possible to run this game without a Rift. ThereGÇÖs a whole bunch of different things out on the market right now.GÇ¥ |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Desperado-Enforcement LLC
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:47:00 -
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That article was a painful read. at this rate I'm betting on ouya, rift and linux. I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining". -á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:47:00 -
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Why can't they simply use Unity or whatever else that's plattform independent ? ... |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:48:00 -
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seems pretty normal for designers to avoid the question of what platforms the game's being released on early on. i think they have to figure things out with the publisher and console manufacturers first. so don't panic, eh |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:48:00 -
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WTF ARE YOU DOING
PUT THAT THING AWAY BEFORE YOU GET US ALL KILLED
BETWEEN HIS HOWLING AND YOUR BLASTING ITS A WONDER THE WHOLE STATION DOESNT KNOW WE'RE HERE High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:51:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:seems pretty normal for designers to avoid the question of what platforms the game's being released on early on. i think they have to figure things out with the publisher and console manufacturers first. so don't panic, eh
I remember when the first rumours of Dust being a console exclusive started to float about. Everyone was pretty much on the same page, "nah thats never gonna happen" It happened.
Only CCP would even think of taking something thats caught the worlds attention and then saying Nah, we are going PS4 exclusive and it will only work with this new PS4 VR headset.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:52:00 -
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In the general press (CNN, blah blah blah, etc.) I keep reading all this stuff about the Death of the PC.
Sounds like it, if this is how game developers are thinking already.
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1006
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:53:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:In the general press (CNN, blah blah blah, etc.) I keep reading all this stuff about the Death of the PC.
Sounds like it, if this is how game developers are thinking already.
Confirmed
Press tells truth
High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:54:00 -
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JamDunc wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:seems pretty normal for designers to avoid the question of what platforms the game's being released on early on. i think they have to figure things out with the publisher and console manufacturers first. so don't panic, eh I remember when the first rumours of Dust being a console exclusive started to float about. Everyone was pretty much on the same page, "nah thats never gonna happen" It happened. Only CCP would even think of taking something thats caught the worlds attention and then saying Nah, we are going PS4 exclusive and it will only work with this new PS4 VR headset. yeah i'll just leave you to rage about it then, i'll be over here chillaxing and drinking chocolate milk |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:55:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:yeah i'll just leave you to rage about it then, i'll be over here chillaxing and drinking chocolate milk and i'm all outta milk |
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JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:In the general press (CNN, blah blah blah, etc.) I keep reading all this stuff about the Death of the PC.
Sounds like it, if this is how game developers are thinking already.
Someone has Hilmars ear. He has been brainwashed that the future is F2P and microtransactions. Everything you hear him say points in this direction. I'm not super smart or even in the industry so I can't say for sure he is wrong. He has also been convinced that PC gaming is dead because of piracy. The fact all the evidence points against that doesn't seem to matter.
With the way Reid is talking I am expecting Valkyrie to be console exclusive using some unannounced VR console headset. It will be F2P and loaded with microtransactions. After all, that worked out great for Dust.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:56:00 -
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Valkyrie will be an EA production exclusively for XBone.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:00:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:In the general press (CNN, blah blah blah, etc.) I keep reading all this stuff about the Death of the PC.
Sounds like it, if this is how game developers are thinking already.
Confirmed Press tells truth
I swear it's paid propaganda by Apple. All of it. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:02:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:yeah i'll just leave you to rage about it then, i'll be over here chillaxing and drinking chocolate milk and i'm all outta milk
Not really rage, just frustration.
When all the stuff with Incarna was building the player base kept saying no. CCP kept saying yes. Eveyone knew that releasing an expansion that pretty much consisted on one room that couldn't be modified was daft.
When CCP announced Aurum players were pretty much Mah, as long as its just vanity we don't care. Then CCP went ahead and confirmed (via newsletters and emails) that they were pretty mcuh planning on releasing ships for Aurum. Players went nuts.
When CCP said they wanted to release their new come on a console right at the end of its life the players were unanimous "WTF" CCP did it anyway.
When CCP decided to give trillions of isk to one person because of er....we want to. Players p[retty much just slapped their foreheads.
I just don't understand how they thing sometimes. Remember this guys job is to get positive press for CCP. think about it, what positive press has CCP had in the last couple of years that weren't player done? What bad press have they had that was CCP done? Is he doing his job? |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:08:00 -
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Aie.
I'd be totally, 100% sold if it's a Rift product that can be played via PC. I don't care what else it comes out on.
Mind, I'm one of those funky gamers that loves EVE and strategy games, and doesn't own a console.
But, uh, really here. While CCP shouldn't cater to its EVE demographic to the exclusion of others, getting EVE player buy-in is a solid way to ensure long-term support for the game. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1007
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:10:00 -
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JamDunc wrote:
Someone has Hilmars ear. He has been brainwashed that the future is F2P and microtransactions. Everything you hear him say points in this direction.
What Is Heresy?
Heresy is an emotionally loaded term that is often misused. It is not the same thing as incredulity, schism, apostasy, or other sins against faith. The Catechism of the Catholic Pontifex (CCP) states, "Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and true faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of EvE Online; schism is the refusal of submission to CCP or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him" (CCP 2089).
To commit heresy, one must refuse to be corrected. A person who is ready to be corrected or who is unaware that what he has been saying is against Church teaching is not a heretic.
A person must be a capsuleer to commit heresy. This means that movements that have split off from or been influenced by EvE Online, but that do not practice EvE Online (or do not practice valid accounts), are not heresies, but separate religions. Examples include Muslims, who do not practice PvE, and JehovahGÇÖs Witnesses, who do not practice valid PvP.
Finally, the doubt or denial involved in heresy must concern a matter that has been revealed by a Dev and solemnly defined by CCP.
It is important to distinguish heresy from schism and apostasy. In schism, one separates from CCP without repudiating a defined doctrine. An example of a contemporary schism is the Society of St. Pius XGÇöthe "Lefebvrists" or followers of the late Archbishop Marcel LefebvreGÇöwho separated from the Church in the late 1980s, but who have not denied Catholic doctrines. In apostasy, one totally repudiates EvE Online and no longer even claims to be a capsuleer. High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:10:00 -
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I think you're reading too much into it. They just don't want to appear to be committing to anything before they work it all out themselves, or they'll appear to have been lying. This isn't a case of the dude in the interview trying to hide something or be dishonest - he's just exercising prudence because they're early in the design process |
JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:10:00 -
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UPDATE: Taken from Reddit
Quote:[GÇô]nuadi Caldari 41 points 1 day ago (52|11)
To CCP devs lurking here: Guys, I understand that you're holding off before you commit to a platform. Totally get it. I'm a dev, I understand the implications. However, please look at the feedback from the PS3-only Dust. We EvE players want an accessible Valkyrie release. Dust is not very accessible to some of us, as an additional gaming system in the house is not always possible. Just, please get the feedback where it needs to be, and voice that Valkyrie would be very, very (very), welcome on PC. permalinksourcereportgive goldsave-RESreplyhide child comments
Quote:[GÇô]ccp_manifest 52 points 1 day ago (57|5) Noted. Oh damn, I'm decloaked. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1007
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:14:00 -
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JamDunc wrote:UPDATE: Taken from Reddit
The reliable sources keep piling up High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:17:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:JamDunc wrote:
Someone has Hilmars ear. He has been brainwashed that the future is F2P and microtransactions. Everything you hear him say points in this direction.
What Is Heresy?
You broke my brain. |
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JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:18:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:JamDunc wrote:UPDATE: Taken from Reddit
The reliable sources keep piling up
Sorry I forgot to link.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1p41t9/ccp_refuses_to_confirm_eve_valkyrie_on_pc/
The CCP-Manifest account has been confirmed to be the man himself. So at least we know he is listening, is he hearing though? thats a totally different question.
When things kicked off with Incarna no matter what players said all he heard was "Monicles are too expensive" it took months to break through. |
Winter Archipelago
Innocuous Infection
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:40:00 -
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JamDunc wrote:So at least we know he is listening, is he hearing though? thats a totally different question. I think you've got your expression reversed: you can hear something without listening, but you can't listen unless you can hear. Least-ways, that's how I've always heard that.
In regards to the topic, well, I'm one person who would love to give DUST a try, except I don't have a PS3, and have no intentions of getting one (or any other console, for that matter, though the Steam Box has been looking appealing). If Valkyrie is released as a console-only (or especially as an exclusive to a single console), that's another game I'll never be playing that looks to be quite a bit of fun. Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Ships, Mods, and Dolls. |
JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:58:00 -
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Winter Archipelago wrote:JamDunc wrote:So at least we know he is listening, is he hearing though? thats a totally different question. I think you've got your expression reversed: you can hear something without listening, but you can't listen unless you can hear. Least-ways, that's how I've always heard that.
I did point out in an earlier post that I am not a smart man. Thanks for the correction. I am now running through past conversations in my head trying to work out how many times I sounded daft by getting that one wrong :-)
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
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Posted - 2013.10.25 19:03:00 -
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JamDunc wrote: * Waves newspaper at me* See?! The Prime Minister SAID it was so!
Confirmed
Reliable source High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.25 19:05:00 -
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Valkyrie, if it is being designed like I think it is, then it belongs on the console machine.
PC games are for big boys. The kiddy pool is that way>>>console machines. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1013
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Posted - 2013.10.25 19:12:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:Valkyrie, if it is being designed like I think it is, then it belongs on the console machine.
PC games are for big boys. The kiddy pool is that way>>>console machines.
Yes
FLIGHT SIMS
do not belong on PCs
High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:57:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:WTF ARE YOU DOING PUT THAT THING AWAY BEFORE YOU GET US ALL KILLED BETWEEN HIS HOWLING AND YOUR BLASTING ITS A WONDER THE WHOLE STATION DOESNT KNOW WE'RE HERE
Unsuccessful... tell Erotica1 to shut down all the garbage smashers on the General Discussion level! SHUT DOWN ALL THE GARBAGE SMASHERS ON THE GENERAL DISCUSSION LEVEL!!!!!! That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:29:00 -
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Hammer Crendraven wrote:Valkyrie, if it is being designed like I think it is, then it belongs on the console machine.
PC games are for big boys. The kiddy pool is that way>>>console machines.
I wouldn't mind, but this is more development work that we're paying for that is not eve. Meanwhile we have ui improvements and ship balancing packaged as expansions, if the effort that went into dust, wod, valkyerie and numerous other side projects was done through new teams hired especially for these projects leaving eve developers to carry on with eve work things might be fine, however if all of this effort went into eve then eve would carry on being the greatest thing in sci fi gaming as opposed to its present position in which it is losing ground to new competitors with big ideas and the vision to fulfil them. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:07:00 -
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Well Hilmar said outright that Valkyrie was created specifically because of the Occulus Rift.
This does not preclude that the rift won't also be for a console.
I mean why show it off at the shows with the Occulus Rift if it wasn't meant for the rift.
The issue that we should really be considering is not if Valkyrie is going to be console, but if this is the heralding of the Occulus Rift. From my impressions of the people using the dev kit on youtube, the OR is a revolutionary advance in gaming and if there impressions are to be taken in regards, then in five years if a game doesn't support the Occulus Rift then no one will play it because the Occulus Rift is that good.
The truth is that Hilmar has seen this and therefore has put 20 engineers dedicated to Valkyrie. They know Star Citizen will support the OR and that if they don't support it as well, they are going to be left in the Dust so to say. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2013.10.26 04:11:00 -
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I'll be blunt; I don't know what its like in other countries, but in North America, consoles are for the projects.
Release it on console and watch the PC gamers rage. Eve is Real |
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