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DKPowers	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:19:00 - [1] Hi I'm currently going through the sequence of mission called Human Cattle. Now I've defeated the first and second wave of enemies. At the third area there are a crapload of Amarr BSs and other gargantuan ships I have no hope of fighting against in my crappy Celestis. There's also a jump gate there. Now how should I proceed? Obiously I have to go deeper into the space through the jump gate but those BS will no doubt tear me to pieces without even blinking an eye. Thanks for any advice!
Orlando Orleans	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:22:00 - [2] If you see the amarr fleet you have completed the mission ;) go back to your agent and get your rewards.
DKPowers	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:25:00 - [3] Ugh... I thought of that first but it didn't work. Do I need to kill the ship which is very close to me when I jump in or do I need to get closer to the fleet?
Topodo	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:42:00 - [4] You just need to kill the nearby frigate, then warp outta there.
DKPowers	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:46:00 - [5] OK, will do. Thanks!
Sakura Nihil	Posted - 2006.02.05 12:35:00 - [6] ya, that one gave me an moment when I did it "8.) After each wrecking shot, you shall yell 'THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!'"
Sieben Sevenson	Posted - 2006.02.05 14:58:00 - [7] I was helping a corp mate out, and was somewhat surprised to see the amarr fleet waiting for us - so off we went, rounded up a few b/s's and came back - net result, insta agro of the whole lot and we ran away after killing about 3 ships Just for those of you who want to see what all the fuss is about ... On a level 2, you've got to be kidding
Melacon	Posted - 2006.02.05 15:45:00 - [8] I lost my thorax during part 3. I thought these missions were designed to be done solo? The second you warp in youre swarmed by about 10 ships and there was no way i could take them out before i died. Tried warping out once i got to structure hp but by the time i aligned i was dead.
Sendraks	Posted - 2006.02.05 15:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Melacon I thought these missions were designed to be done solo? They are and the whole human cattle series is very doable in a Thorax. You might need more skills or to look to your fitting if you're having problems.
Melacon	Posted - 2006.02.05 16:12:00 - [10] yeah i was using rail guns, think i might try switching to blasters and light drones instead of hammerheads. Sorry to hijack the thread btw, back on topic.

Habitue	Posted - 2006.02.05 20:02:00 - [11] I about crapped myself on this mission too... and despite that last guy "just" being a frigate, it's a rediculously hard frigate, he has a monster armor regen that is difficult to get past if you arent set up right. I had success in my thorax using three blasters, three hammerhead drones, two energy vampires and a webifier, plus a lot of cap regeneration low slots.
Kayl Breinhar	Posted - 2006.02.06 10:08:00 - [12] Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 06/02/2006 10:08:28 I soloed 1-4 in my Thorax in a ship using no hardeners and no plate. Yes, I'm a lucky idiot, especially using a Blasterax. I lost it in 5 merely because I overestimated my longevity, or I would've been able to extend and escape. Of course, I'd learned my lesson in 5 and equipped Kin/Therm active hardeners. Thankfully dying only took my 10mn AB II as the most expensive item casualty (thankfully sparing my E50 Nos that I got for 2.7 mill ). Plus I'm in the process of training Eng/Elec/Mech to V and Armor Comp/Armor Repair to at least III and IV respectively. And after that, the cap skills to at least IV on the pool and V on the regen to eliminate/lessen the need for a cap recharger/relay. I now keep a stable of Light Modal Neutrons and T2 Neutrons in reserve for running HC again. Those frigates ARE a pain in the ass to hit. Thorax just need a LOT of juice to be
Fergus Runkle	Posted - 2006.02.06 11:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Sieben Sevenson I was helping a corp mate out, and was somewhat surprised to see the amarr fleet waiting for us - so off we went, rounded up a few b/s's and came back - net result, insta agro of the whole lot and we ran away after killing about 3 ships Just for those of you who want to see what all the fuss is about ... On a level 2, you've got to be kidding Five members of my corp took out that fleet twice in one night (two missions) .. the key (as in any mission) is how you aggro them. In this particular senario I think most of the npc's will aggro on ANY ship that breaks 100km from them. Solution, have a dedicated tank and a logistic's ship to tank them. We used a Raven as the tank and a Domi with 4 large shield transporters and 5 heavy shield rep drones. The tank broke the aggro range with everyone else behind him and then as the npc's stream towards the tank everyone can open up as they enter their range. In total we had 2 Raven's the medic Domi, a Wolf and a Kestrel. Same method works for taking out the reinforcements in Portal to war.
Rysio	Posted - 2006.02.13 15:57:00 - [14] Edited by: Rysio on 13/02/2006 16:06:44 I got up to the fleet but my question is this. Is it worth it taking on the fleet do they have anything or drop anything of use?
Sabarius	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:25:00 - [15] I'm just about to have a bash at this one in my Moa. I'll let you know how it goes. No doubt I'll be back for advice when I get my butt kicked.
Sabarius	Posted - 2006.02.13 20:16:00 - [16] Ah Finally it is done, with much warping in and out hokey cokey business. Also that last frig is a *****.
Ortu Konsinni	Posted - 2006.02.14 01:03:00 - [17] The frigates in some of these new missions are just scary sometimes. In Human Cattle 3 I think there's this group of Kestrels with an amount of HP close to a cruiser's, fitted with 3 dual 150mm railguns or something. I want the same Kestrel. - Ship Gallery - Helpdesk from Hell
Liet Traep	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:54:00 - [18] When i got to the last part and saw the amarr fleet there my jeans became brown very quickly. I counted that fleet. 27 frigs, 3 cruisers and 14 bs. This was the lvl 2 version.
Fergus Runkle	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Rysio Edited by: Rysio on 13/02/2006 16:06:44 I got up to the fleet but my question is this. Is it worth it taking on the fleet do they have anything or drop anything of use? Normal mission type loot (ie 1mn ab's from the bs's). The tags are worth something though so with a small number of pilots it can be profitable. Then again with a small number of pilots you need to be good or organised.
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.02.16 05:12:00 - [20] I remmeber this mission. I took out the amarr fleet. Was fun but the loot was awful. I did enjoy the amarr standing hit which some day will make me kill on sight in 40% of empire space, though :). Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.

Straxos	Posted - 2006.02.16 11:17:00 - [21] The lvl with all the BS has a jumpgate. Since so many of you killed that fleet, could you enlighten the rest of us as to what is on the other side of the jumpgate, or didn't you go through or is it inaccessible?
Torg Jupiter	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:23:00 - [22] i did the human cattle both in a cyclone and a rupture solo and i found it enjoyable (at 3-4 mil SP total). of course the last room and its amarr battle fleet cant be done solo. no way. we did this in a group of several BS, HAC and BC a few times. good loot. but the accgate at the end is just furniture. no hidden wonders.
Fergus Runkle	Posted - 2006.02.17 00:11:00 - [23] Originally by: Straxos The lvl with all the BS has a jumpgate. Since so many of you killed that fleet, could you enlighten the rest of us as to what is on the other side of the jumpgate, or didn't you go through or is it inaccessible? Its not an active gate, just decoration. There is nothing else (and destroying all the buildings is a waste of ammo to)
Ceilidh	Posted - 2006.02.17 05:40:00 - [24] That last little frigate at the end of Cattle 5 was just ------------------- -Ceilidh (KAY-lee)
Cairhien	Posted - 2006.02.17 19:32:00 - [25] I did this mission set with a Thorax using blasters. The last frigate I killed with tech II med drones and a webber. Was pretty easy. Saved my ammo.


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