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Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
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Posted - 2013.11.01 08:41:00 -
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Ace Boogi wrote:
[08:33:56] Andren Vox > Form - we had a call with CCP this morning. They had to change policy. The system that several fansites (us included) were using to offset server costs was suddenly getting abused by the aspy society forum posters.
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Ace Boogi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2013.11.01 08:43:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Ace Boogi wrote:[quote=Argus Sorn]
[08:33:56] Andren Vox > Form - we had a call with CCP this morning. They had to change policy. The system that several fansites (us included) were using to offset server costs was suddenly getting abused by the aspy society forum posters.
I LOL'D yup. you can't make this **** up. been screenshotting all of this ofc for when ppl accuse me of doctoring them.
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Frying Doom
3007
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Posted - 2013.11.01 08:43:00 -
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I love it servers cost around $250 a month, they have made over $135,000 and are complaining about server costs.
What a load of ******* bullshit.
$250 a month could easily be handled with there traffic load with just some simple ads or just the GTC by its self.
Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Ace Boogi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
72
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Posted - 2013.11.01 08:49:00 -
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[08:44:55] Formidable Omaristos > wouldn't another way to pay server costs be to keep the same with markee but without the bonus and they gave somer the bonus, then somer gave out more freebies ?
[08:45:51] Andren Vox > Form - we're going to try with just the GTC banner (no bonus) first and see how that goes. We're not in a rush to declare for any method, we'll give it time and see how it plays out.
[08:47:17] Formidable Omaristos > would be awesome if people knew you did that and say once a week tally up and offer a real good prize like a plus blink promo
[08:48:00] Andren Vox > Form - Nah, CCP doesn't want there to be any type of in-game reward related to affiliate links. We're not gonna try and rule lawyer around that.
so, they're going to try and see if they still make decent irl money. they aren't in a rush as $135k can pay for a lot of server, but they will still be looking into making whatever kind of irl profit is allowed.
the rule lawyering bit just made me crack up. unbelievable. |
Frying Doom
3008
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Posted - 2013.11.01 09:03:00 -
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I think CCP needs to set up some clear guide lines so that the GTC re-sellers are actually operating within the TOS.
For example community sites only not RL for profit businesses or businesses that would be illegal in large parts of the world.
Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers
Dirt Nap Squad.
517
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Posted - 2013.11.01 09:45:00 -
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Ace Boogi wrote:Argus Sorn wrote:Honestly the fact that everyone else stopped and SOMER "upped the ante" combined with the garbage they dished out to their patrons garbage about how the ruling was made because of "other people" should make CCP hang their heads in shame for endorsing them.
Honestly it has become almost embarassing to watch CCP be turned into a joke by SOMERblink. About the only way CCP can regain any respect or pride at this point is to shut them down completely for RMT, but I doubt they can bring themselves to do it. [08:31:00] Formidable Omaristos > anybody know how long this bonus gtc will last for ? [08:31:23] Paragorn Duvas > The bonus will go away after the 7th, so we'll be investigating other options to cover the server expense after the GTC money runs out :) [08:32:20] Formidable Omaristos > is this because of what's been said in the forums ? [08:33:56] Andren Vox > Form - we had a call with CCP this morning. They had to change policy. The system that several fansites (us included) were using to offset server costs was suddenly getting abused by the aspy society forum posters. [08:34:17] Andren Vox > So they asked us to stop after the 7th, and we of course went along with that :) [08:35:19] Andren Vox > Form - Meh, not worth raging about. Forum players gonna forum :p We'll keep trucking. [08:36:04] Formidable Omaristos > i normally win enough off blink to plex my account, but 500 mill will be a welcome bonus for me [08:38:16] Andren Vox > Form - We've been here 3 years now. Some random forum people who don't even play eve making a lot of noise aren't gonna chase us off :p [08:38:56] Kestler Jagrafess > i tried to back up what you guys do, or at least silence the ignorant... now apparently im a somer alt [08:42:09] Andren Vox > People getting that upset over a video game have few enough "wins" in their life, and they're going to fight hard for the pretend ones they're after.
Shame that CCP Guard has decided that Andrew Nox is more imporant than we are. Does CCP stand behind the crap he is rolling out in these chats?
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Ace Boogi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2013.11.01 09:53:00 -
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[09:50:24] coordinates > some things are not mathematically comprehensible for me, but if ccp cheat supported, then I have nothing to look for here anyway. i have thrown over 220Gé¼ out of the window in oktober until know, yea my fault. But maybe an eyeopener for some of you.
'trustworthy and honourable' Somer, doing the community a service of RMTing by feeding the addictions of degenerate gamblers. |
Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
216
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Posted - 2013.11.01 09:54:00 -
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Argus Sorn wrote:Ace Boogi wrote:Argus Sorn wrote:Honestly the fact that everyone else stopped and SOMER "upped the ante" combined with the garbage they dished out to their patrons garbage about how the ruling was made because of "other people" should make CCP hang their heads in shame for endorsing them.
Honestly it has become almost embarassing to watch CCP be turned into a joke by SOMERblink. About the only way CCP can regain any respect or pride at this point is to shut them down completely for RMT, but I doubt they can bring themselves to do it. [08:31:00] Formidable Omaristos > anybody know how long this bonus gtc will last for ? [08:31:23] Paragorn Duvas > The bonus will go away after the 7th, so we'll be investigating other options to cover the server expense after the GTC money runs out :) [08:32:20] Formidable Omaristos > is this because of what's been said in the forums ? [08:33:56] Andren Vox > Form - we had a call with CCP this morning. They had to change policy. The system that several fansites (us included) were using to offset server costs was suddenly getting abused by the aspy society forum posters. [08:34:17] Andren Vox > So they asked us to stop after the 7th, and we of course went along with that :) [08:35:19] Andren Vox > Form - Meh, not worth raging about. Forum players gonna forum :p We'll keep trucking. [08:36:04] Formidable Omaristos > i normally win enough off blink to plex my account, but 500 mill will be a welcome bonus for me [08:38:16] Andren Vox > Form - We've been here 3 years now. Some random forum people who don't even play eve making a lot of noise aren't gonna chase us off :p [08:38:56] Kestler Jagrafess > i tried to back up what you guys do, or at least silence the ignorant... now apparently im a somer alt [08:42:09] Andren Vox > People getting that upset over a video game have few enough "wins" in their life, and they're going to fight hard for the pretend ones they're after. Shame that CCP Guard has decided that Andrew Nox is more imporant than we are. Does CCP stand behind the crap he is rolling out in these chats?
Of course they do, as SOMER is 100% $$$L3G1T$$$, community supporting, and not a scam.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
225
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Posted - 2013.11.01 09:55:00 -
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The thing that's holding me back from buying GTC through SOMER with their new super bonus isn't the fact that they are getting money. I actually don't mind SOMER getting money. I take more offense to the fact that Markee Dragon is making even more money off this than SOMER.
Markee Dragon = known and confirmed RMTer in other games, but still allowed to be a reseller.
SOMER = alleged RMT operation in this game.
But that bonus... oh lord that bonus 
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
226
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Posted - 2013.11.01 09:57:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Of course they do, as SOMER is 100% $$$L3G1T$$$, community supporting, and not a scam.
Legit. All prizes are given and paid out, always.
Community supporting. They spend their profits on promo's, and real life events.
Not a scam. I'm not sure you even know the meaning of the word scam... 
My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |
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Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
217
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Posted - 2013.11.01 09:58:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Of course they do, as SOMER is 100% $$$L3G1T$$$, community supporting, and not a scam.
Legit. All prizes are given and paid out, always. Community supporting. They spend their profits on promo's, and real life events. Not a scam. I'm not sure you even know the meaning of the word scam...
Exactly thats what I wrote and thats why CCP is backing all the bullshit Andrev Nox or his alt is writing. |
Frying Doom
3018
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:01:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Of course they do, as SOMER is 100% $$$L3G1T$$$, community supporting, and not a scam.
Legit. All prizes are given and paid out, always. Community supporting. They spend their profits on promo's, and real life events. Not a scam. I'm not sure you even know the meaning of the word scam...
Yes they payout prizes
Yes they seem to be keeping 16 billion that was sent to them for an auction that did not happen and failed to return it afterwards.
They advertise in the community, just like casinos, alcohol companies and cigarette companies(use to in the case of my country).
They offer a gambling service where you can convert your real cash into their tokens via plex with no ability of any pay back in return except the ability to pay your game time via your winnings.
Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
1939
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:04:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Of course they do, as SOMER is 100% $$$L3G1T$$$, community supporting, and not a scam.
Legit. All prizes are given and paid out, always. Community supporting. They spend their profits on promo's, and real life events. Not a scam. I'm not sure you even know the meaning of the word scam... Yes they payout prizes Yes they seem to be keeping 16 billion that was sent to them for an auction that did not happen and failed to return it afterwards. They advertise in the community, just like casinos, alcohol companies and cigarette companies(use to in the case of my country). They offer a gambling service where you can convert your real cash into their tokens via plex with no ability of any pay back in return except the ability to pay your game time via your winnings.
A model community nonprofit. Thanks for the excellent explanation.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Frying Doom
3022
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:08:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:A model community nonprofit. Thanks for the excellent explanation.
Yes a model community site, shame that an Adult Entertainment site would actually be better for the Community, than an unlicensed gambling site.
Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Ace Boogi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:11:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:A model community nonprofit. Thanks for the excellent explanation. Yes a model community site, shame that an Adult Entertainment site would actually be better for the Community, than an unlicensed gambling site.
Eve MFC with ISK purchasable tokens? |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
1944
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:17:00 -
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Ace Boogi wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:A model community nonprofit. Thanks for the excellent explanation. Yes a model community site, shame that an Adult Entertainment site would actually be better for the Community, than an unlicensed gambling site. Eve MFC with ISK purchasable tokens?
Hey, if you can pay for gambling with isk, you might as well be able to pay for **** and prostitution where it is legal as well. I'm pretty sure some people around here would pay quite a lot of isk to **** some people dressed up as our characters.
*edit* I'd do me 
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Ace Boogi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:20:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:
Hey, if you can pay for gambling with isk, you might as well be able to pay for **** and prostitution where it is legal as well. I'm pretty sure some people around here would pay quite a lot of isk to **** some people dressed up as our characters.
can one purchase GTC with bitcoins? |
Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
218
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:20:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Ace Boogi wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:A model community nonprofit. Thanks for the excellent explanation. Yes a model community site, shame that an Adult Entertainment site would actually be better for the Community, than an unlicensed gambling site. Eve MFC with ISK purchasable tokens? Hey, if you can pay for gambling with isk, you might as well be able to pay for **** and prostitution where it is legal as well. I'm pretty sure some people around here would pay quite a lot of isk to **** some people dressed up as our characters.
As you mention this... |
Frying Doom
3025
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:35:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Ace Boogi wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:A model community nonprofit. Thanks for the excellent explanation. Yes a model community site, shame that an Adult Entertainment site would actually be better for the Community, than an unlicensed gambling site. Eve MFC with ISK purchasable tokens? Hey, if you can pay for gambling with isk, you might as well be able to pay for **** and prostitution where it is legal as well. I'm pretty sure some people around here would pay quite a lot of isk to **** some people dressed up as our characters. As you mention this...
Want to get rich in game?
Are you easy going?
Make billions in the new EvE: prostitution ring.
No RMT involved.
Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Annie Getyourgun
Snow Leopard Situs
9
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:40:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Frying Doom wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Of course they do, as SOMER is 100% $$$L3G1T$$$, community supporting, and not a scam.
Legit. All prizes are given and paid out, always. Community supporting. They spend their profits on promo's, and real life events. Not a scam. I'm not sure you even know the meaning of the word scam... Yes they payout prizes Yes they seem to be keeping 16 billion that was sent to them for an auction that did not happen and failed to return it afterwards. They advertise in the community, just like casinos, alcohol companies and cigarette companies(use to in the case of my country). They offer a gambling service where you can convert your real cash into their tokens via plex with no ability of any pay back in return except the ability to pay your game time via your winnings. A model community nonprofit. Thanks for the excellent explanation.
I'm still surprised that CCP didn't object to how the raffle was handled with the EVE Vegas prizes that were eventually donated after the Gold Magnate et al were nixed.
Using a community site to distribute donated prizes is one thing; everyone gets only one ticket each to these giveaways, regardless of the amount they spend (or don't spend), to quote Andrev Nox on their promo and bonk runner up giveaways.
But the donated items were not raffled in this fashion. It was a free for all, enter as often as you like, as long as we get paid for every ticket, sorry if you are poor but this is an isk sink not a fair giveaway to the playerbase, type affair.
Letting a community site profit by raffling prizes to the highest bidder (prizes like the trip to Iceland); this sticking point has always bothered me in the context of neutrality towards player owned corporations. |
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
1946
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Posted - 2013.11.01 10:44:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Want to get rich in game? Are you easy going? Make billions in the new EvE: prostitution ring. No RMT involved.
Eve's only honest isk escort service (tm)
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
374
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:15:00 -
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Argus Sorn wrote:I onced watched some shady guy basically "play" a less than sharp minded female friend of mine in a bar. It was clear as day to any slightly aware person in the bar that he was just looking to hook up and laying it on thick. She thought he was "so sweet".
The SOMERblink chat channel reminds me so much of that moment...
"And I could have gotten away with it too if it was not for you meddling kids..." |
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:26:00 -
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This would make a fantastic investigative journalism piece for Forbes or Wired or some other tech-savy mainstream media outlet.
Just sayin'.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
226
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:41:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:*edit* I'd do me
I really wouldn't.
Also I'm pretty sure that somehow somewhere someone has sent money to a female character because she was flirting with him. Some people actually that desperate for female attention
My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |
RAW23
406
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:45:00 -
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When the Somer guys say they 'spoke to CCP', does this mean they don't have to petition and wait like the rest of us poor slobs and that they have a direct line to decision makers? If so, that seems one of the biggest WTF things in this whole debacle.
There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
577
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:49:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:A model community nonprofit. Thanks for the excellent explanation. Yes a model community site, shame that an Adult Entertainment site would actually be better for the Community, than an unlicensed gambling site.
At this point shut up and cash in. This is one of the only ways to legitimize online gambling from the looks of it by doing a dog and pony show with isk. After the rules change it'll only be for a cut of the PLEX sales but hey that seems like a nice little chunk of change.
EVE Roulette anyone? (coming soon to the EvEsino along with dancing girls on the sidebar!) |
Ace Boogi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:52:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:When the Somer guys say they 'spoke to CCP', does this mean they don't have to petition and wait like the rest of us poor slobs and that they have a direct line to decision makers? If so, that seems one of the biggest WTF things in this whole debacle.
they had a nice phone chat first thing in the morning it seems. |
Glasgow Dunlop
Gigaverse
Strictly Unprofessional
92
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:57:00 -
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seems like SOMER & chums have 'won' EVE, and made CCP look . . . . well you know . . . . foolish to say a word.
Now do we abhor this, or do the greedy thing and give them some more money via GTC in the last few days to make a tidy personal profit? ( GTC sell for a bil or so, extra credit for somer blinks, get ships, cash out - win! )
Also brings the question in of Buying GTC from diffrent areas. $35 gets a 60 day gtc, where as -ú17 gets 1 plex, last conversion rate brung in -ú21ish for $35, so could this be the start of something bigger again? We all go via the GTC route rather than right thru CCP ( depending on where you live ) ?
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:06:00 -
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Glasgow Dunlop wrote:seems like SOMER & chums have 'won' EVE, and made CCP look . . . . well you know . . . . foolish to say a word.
Now do we abhor this, or do the greedy thing and give them some more money via GTC in the last few days to make a tidy personal profit? ( GTC sell for a bil or so, extra credit for somer blinks, get ships, cash out - win! )
Also brings the question in of Buying GTC from diffrent areas. $35 gets a 60 day gtc, where as -ú17 gets 1 plex, last conversion rate brung in -ú21ish for $35, so could this be the start of something bigger again? We all go via the GTC route rather than right thru CCP ( depending on where you live ) ?
**** off.
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Nanatoa
394
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:20:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Of course they do, as SOMER is 100% $$$L3G1T$$$, community supporting, and not a scam.
Legit. All prizes are given and paid out, always. Community supporting. They spend their profits on promo's, and real life events. Not a scam. I'm not sure you even know the meaning of the word scam...
Well they did pull a bait-and-switch scam on me, and called it 'valid play' afterwards...
"Stay the course, we have done this many times before."
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