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SunWuKong	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:23:00 - [1] Any of you corps/alliances out there successfully use actual tactics? Not just the overused 'gatecamp'. If so, please share with us some of your fun/awesome tactical movements whether it was successful or not. (If it is a tactic that is unique to you and gives you the upper hand, then by all means keep it to yourself). Mainly what I want to hear about is fleet or squadron movement, not solo tactics.
Dave Tehsulei	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:28:00 - [2] Originally by: SunWuKong (If it is a tactic that is unique to you and gives you the upper hand, then by all means keep it to yourself). ok
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:29:00 - [3] Originally by: SunWuKong Any of you corps/alliances out there successfully use actual tactics? Not just the overused 'gatecamp'. If so, please share with us some of your fun/awesome tactical movements whether it was successful or not. (If it is a tactic that is unique to you and gives you the upper hand, then by all means keep it to yourself). Mainly what I want to hear about is fleet or squadron movement, not solo tactics. 1. Find my enemy. Figure out what he flies. 2. Fit a ship that looks very weak with the exact setup to destroy him. 3. Bait. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron
Demonstheses	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:32:00 - [4] Here comes the flameing! My corp does :).
Claude Leon	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:39:00 - [5] Tactics in EVE? You can't be serious. The game is all about Skill Points and Point, click and shoot.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Claude Leon Tactics in EVE? You can't be serious. The game is all about Skill Points and Point, click and shoot. I think you're talking about the wrong game. I was talking about EVE Online, not world of warcraft. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron
Claude Leon	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:43:00 - [7] Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 00:44:07 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Claude Leon Tactics in EVE? You can't be serious. The game is all about Skill Points and Point, click and shoot. I think you're talking about the wrong game. I was talking about EVE Online, not world of warcraft. Nope, I have the correct game in mind. If you think otherwise, then you are sadly mistaken.
SengH	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Claude Leon Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 00:44:07 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Claude Leon Tactics in EVE? You can't be serious. The game is all about Skill Points and Point, click and shoot. I think you're talking about the wrong game. I was talking about EVE Online, not world of warcraft. Nope, I have the correct game in mind. If you think otherwise, then you are sadly mistaken. Wait a minute... you CANT shoot because my 16000 sp in EW allowed me to jam you.
SunWuKong	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:13:00 - [9] No way!?!? Either no commanders have posted here, or EVE must really limit tactics beyond shipfitting/1vs1/gatecamping. That's too bad.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:15:00 - [10] Originally by: SunWuKong No way!?!? Either no commanders have posted here, or EVE must really limit tactics beyond shipfitting/1vs1/gatecamping. That's too bad. EVE doesn't. Its just that anyone intelligent to know good tactics is too lazy to post here. And I'm too lazy to post some serious tactics. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:20:00 - [11] There are tactics but mainly tactics that embrace cowardice or lameness seem to be the popular ones that spoil PvP. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWRRRRRRR!!1 - Imaran Wrangler, stealing Eris pink since a few days ago. We always new you had a thing for pink - Vanamonde
Donni	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:29:00 - [12] Course there is tactics. But alot on eve happens on the go. ie Make small fleet or patrol. if your scout spots somethingyou then go from there. The so n so etc etc blah blah blah.
mechtech	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:44:00 - [13] There is a potential for tactics in eve. I think that for a fleet to have a small squad of stealth bombers phasing in and out, and 1 shotting battleships would be really cool. For tactics to evolve in eve, the blob needs to be broken up into smaller groups. Each group could serve a purpose though. maybe an EW squad, a sniper squad, an interceptor squad, ect... As most things are in eve, there are tactics you can use, you just need to take the initiative and make it happen.
Ishen Villone	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:48:00 - [14] Overwhelming numbers.
Noden Vorpalstar	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:56:00 - [15] As a fairly new player myself I'm going to give this one a shot. So far I've only experienced combat PVE either alone or with the few people I fly with. PVE so far seems to be trial and error. Sometimes it's easy, and other times it's hard to a point I barely make it out alive. In such a case I usually consider what happened, and make plans on how to be more effective the next time around. What skills do I need, or new things should I add to my ship to benefit me in such a situation again? Is this the right ship for the job? Do I need to ask another pilot to help me out? As far as PVP is concerned there is a PVP guide that seems to be well written posted in this thread. If what is contained in that guide is of use I will leave the vets to answer that. -------------------------------------------------- "Though we have heard of stupid haste in war, cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays." -Sun Tzu, The Art of War
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:57:00 - [16] "(If it is a tactic that* is unique to you and gives you the upper hand, then by all means keep it to yourself)."* Since that's the very purpose of any tactics really, don't expect many answers ^^
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:13:00 - [17] Most planned tactics have to be changed/modified on the spot, thats what makes good pvpers. There is no "I win" tactic in eve. Somebody giving/explaining tactics to you is no good, if you dont have the experience and imagination to think them up in the first place, then you certainly wont be able to carry them off Of course I take bribes, but not some spare change that you offered me, I want much more than that - Wrangler
Claude Leon	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:22:00 - [18] Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 02:22:21 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: SunWuKong No way!?!? Either no commanders have posted here, or EVE must really limit tactics beyond shipfitting/1vs1/gatecamping. That's too bad. EVE doesn't. Its just that anyone intelligent to know good tactics is too lazy to post here. And I'm too lazy to post some serious tactics. The reason why he wont list any is because there are none. Well, I guess you can consider chasing pirates and camping stations a tactic. I call that boring. The pirates in this game are like the animals at the zoo... They don't want to come out, when you want to see them. PvP has gotten to be completly boring and I blame the WCS for that.
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:25:00 - [19] Originally by: Claude Leon Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 02:22:21 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: SunWuKong No way!?!? Either no commanders have posted here, or EVE must really limit tactics beyond shipfitting/1vs1/gatecamping. That's too bad. EVE doesn't. Its just that anyone intelligent to know good tactics is too lazy to post here. And I'm too lazy to post some serious tactics. The reason why he wont list any is because there are none. Well, I guess you can consider chasing pirates and camping stations a tactic. I call that boring. The pirates in this game are like the animals at the zoo... They don't want to come out, when you want to see them. PvP has gotten to be completly boring and I blame the WCS for that. Thats the reason you find pvp boring, you lack the intelect to make it interesting WCS make pvp interesting, fun and tactical if you used that shriviled piece of **** between your ears. I meant that in a nice way ^^ Of course I take bribes, but not some spare change that you offered me, I want much more than that - Wrangler
Claude Leon	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:26:00 - [20] Originally by: Tenacha Khan Originally by: Claude Leon Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 02:22:21 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: SunWuKong No way!?!? Either no commanders have posted here, or EVE must really limit tactics beyond shipfitting/1vs1/gatecamping. That's too bad. EVE doesn't. Its just that anyone intelligent to know good tactics is too lazy to post here. And I'm too lazy to post some serious tactics. The reason why he wont list any is because there are none. Well, I guess you can consider chasing pirates and camping stations a tactic. I call that boring. The pirates in this game are like the animals at the zoo... They don't want to come out, when you want to see them. PvP has gotten to be completly boring and I blame the WCS for that. Thats the reason you find pvp boring, you lack the intelect to make it interesting WCS make pvp interesting, fun and tactical if you used that shriviled piece of **** between your ears. I meant that in a nice way ^^ I rest my case.
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:30:00 - [21] Originally by: Claude Leon Originally by: Tenacha Khan Originally by: Claude Leon Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 02:22:21 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: SunWuKong No way!?!? Either no commanders have posted here, or EVE must really limit tactics beyond shipfitting/1vs1/gatecamping. That's too bad. EVE doesn't. Its just that anyone intelligent to know good tactics is too lazy to post here. And I'm too lazy to post some serious tactics. The reason why he wont list any is because there are none. Well, I guess you can consider chasing pirates and camping stations a tactic. I call that boring. The pirates in this game are like the animals at the zoo... They don't want to come out, when you want to see them. PvP has gotten to be completly boring and I blame the WCS for that. Thats the reason you find pvp boring, you lack the intelect to make it interesting WCS make pvp interesting, fun and tactical if you used that shriviled piece of **** between your ears. I meant that in a nice way ^^ I rest my case. How is that resting your case? You agree that your too stupid to catch people using wcs? and thats the reason you dont like pvp. Of course I take bribes, but not some spare change that you offered me, I want much more than that - Wrangler
Claude Leon	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:38:00 - [22] Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 02:39:03 I am talking about the immaturity of your post. Yarr, to that. WCS pirates/lamers are the worst.
MysticNZ	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:39:00 - [23] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: SunWuKong No way!?!? Either no commanders have posted here, or EVE must really limit tactics beyond shipfitting/1vs1/gatecamping. That's too bad. EVE doesn't. Its just that anyone intelligent to know good tactics is too lazy to post here. And I'm too lazy to post some serious tactics. QFT - Too lazy, you go figure them out - You got pwnd by us too :P - Wrangler lol - Imaran
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Claude Leon Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 02:39:03 I am talking about the immaturity of your post. Yarr, to that. WCS pirates/lamers are the worst. I dont use stabs, and I dont think Ive hunted with other pirates that use stabs. Using superior tactics negates the need for stabs. When you come to the forums making a dumb statement that their are no tactics, Im gonna treat you like an idiot. I dont rest my case, Im always open for discussion Of course I take bribes, but not some spare change that you offered me, I want much more than that - Wrangler
Claude Leon	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:48:00 - [25] Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 02:49:27 Originally by: Tenacha Khan Originally by: Claude Leon Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 02:39:03 I am talking about the immaturity of your post. Yarr, to that. WCS pirates/lamers are the worst. I dont use stabs, and I dont think Ive hunted with other pirates that use stabs. Using superior tactics negates the need for stabs. When you come to the forums making a dumb statement that their are no tactics, Im gonna treat you like an idiot. I dont rest my case, Im always open for discussion Like I stated before the only tactics are chasing people around. It is not like you can actually use flanking or pincer movements on people in this game. Give me a break, better yet get a clue. The word of being a commander in EVE is a joke. You don't have any tools or options to command a damn piece of Veldspar. Your only options in EVE is to try and wait out your opponent. Wait and see if they make a mistake. Call it whatever the hell you want, but I call that boring. Oh, by the way I have had my fair share of glorifed paper, rock, scissors (EVE Combat). So, I do know what I am talking about.
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.08 03:00:00 - [26] Originally by: mechtech There is a potential for tactics in eve. I think that for a fleet to have a small squad of stealth bombers phasing in and out, and 1 shotting battleships would be really cool. For tactics to evolve in eve, the blob needs to be broken up into smaller groups. Each group could serve a purpose though. maybe an EW squad, a sniper squad, an interceptor squad, ect... As most things are in eve, there are tactics you can use, you just need to take the initiative and make it happen. There is a difference between blobs and fleets. Nubs blob vets (like atuk) field fleets Fleets with competnet command and dedicated parts of the group. As for the ew, or sniper squad, those can go in teh blob because if you are fit for that and dont already know your role, you suck. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.08 03:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Claude Leon Like I stated before the only tactics are chasing people around. It is not like you can actually use flanking or pincer movements on people in this game. Give me a break, better yet get a clue. You clearly have no clue. A good commander/battle plan will force your enemies into a no win situation. Sometimes you don't get a fight, but, a good commander knows when to hold 'em and when to fol 'em. Here is a hint for you, a good commander wont risk his pilots getting bored too often. Originally by: Claude Leon The word of being a commander in EVE is a joke. You don't have any tools or options to command a damn piece of Veldspar. Comments liek this just show you clearly are as ignorant as can be. You don't need artifical tools to survey the battlefield and or force the opponents hand to fight from a position of strenght. Originally by: Claude Leon Your only options in EVE is to try and wait out your opponent. Wait and see if they make a mistake. Call it whatever the hell you want, but I call that boring. Wrong again You force your opponent to fight. Be it through demoralisation or be it taking stations/killing POS's and many other otions. Originally by: Claude Leon Oh, by the way I have had my fair share of glorifed paper, rock, scissors (EVE Combat). Somehow I picture you part of some crappy alliance/corp that spends all their time being reactive instead of proactive. Instead of taking the fight to your enemies you let them come in and dicticate the terms of engagment. In short, if you had good commanders this wouldnt be the case. How do you think ATUK can go up agaist 2000 man alliances and start takig areas of space at our lesiure? Originally by: Claude Leon So, I do know what I am talking about. No you really don't, sorry. On a personal note, you seem very jaded and bitter. Considering I have never heard of you nor your alliance and I am quite a forum ***** says something. You seem like the kind of soft underbelly that pirates and gankers feast upon. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Sergeant Bilko	Posted - 2006.02.08 05:44:00 - [28] Target Calling/Focus Fire Cycle Jamming Cycle Dampning Heres a few
Myal Terego	Posted - 2006.02.08 05:57:00 - [29] There is a few people that believe that just logging out whenever you think there will be a fight they cant easily win might occur, and then log back in when the cov op alt lets them know its clear. Or all log out in an enemy system, and leave a few as bait, when the call is given on teamspeak that the enemy took the bait, they just all log back in and gank them. Its really not a few people tho sadly its alot of them that do this. I guess some people think that winning in eve is better than having a fun clean fight. To each thier own i guess.
Sentani	Posted - 2006.02.08 06:08:00 - [30] would be fun to have some basic tactics... like hidding your fleet behind a station and then ambush the enemy when they arive... or figthing with an asteroid feild that absorbs some of the damage between you and the enemy... rigth now its just click and shoot... a shot can go thru an entire station... or you can be seen everywhere aswell.... ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units.

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