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Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 17205	Posted - 2013.11.01 12:26:00 - [1] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: I'm not looking forward to the wailing and gnashing of teeth from all the people having their RMT ISK deducted from their wallets. What? That's the best part! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 17210	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:10:00 - [2] - Quote TigerXtrm wrote: I refuse to believe that not a single CCP employee ever visited their website and not noticed the credit for GTC thing. By extension that also means CCP didn't mind and thus approved their setup. And THAT by extension means that Somer's entire thing was legal or at the very least not illegal. It's really not rocket science. It's not rocket science, but it is a special pleading fallacy. Your refusal to believe something is not a relevant or useful basis for anything. Moreover, even if CCP didn't mind for whatever ill-conceived reason, it still doesn't mean that it didn't break the EULA. In fact, that's one of the main sources of displeasure with the whole thing. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 17233	Posted - 2013.11.02 15:00:00 - [3] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for GÇªwell, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 17237	Posted - 2013.11.02 15:32:00 - [4] - Quote Prince Kobol wrote: How much have you donated to player run events? How much I have paid does not change the fact that advertising your business is not the same as contributing to the community. The event organisers contributed; Somer did not. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 17238	Posted - 2013.11.02 15:53:00 - [5] - Quote Prince Kobol wrote: So in other words. GÇªyou have no argument and have to resort to genetic fallacies in your silly attempt to deflect attention away from this fact. Quote: So even a business as ruthless and evil such as Somer has contributed and helped player events Nope. They've only advertised their product, which rather precludes it from being a community contribution. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 17240	Posted - 2013.11.02 16:11:00 - [6] - Quote Gah! Forums!! Aivo Dresden wrote: As for you people claiming Somer never did anything at all, how about having a look outside of General Discussion? Just one example of how he is contributing to the EVE community is this. No, that's Telegram Sam contributing to the EVE community. Somer is still just a advertising their business. No-one ever claimed that he never did anything, only that he never contributed to the community GÇö advertising your business doesn't really count. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 17242	Posted - 2013.11.02 16:33:00 - [7] - Quote Aivo Dresden wrote: That's extremely narrow minded. He isn't advertising anything there. He is contributing by stimulating and encouraging more players to write fiction, by offering a considerably larger prize than we previously had for such contests. He's contributing and not advertising in the same way as Tag Heuer is running a race and not advertising when they plaster their name across every F1 course and TV transmissionGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 17242	Posted - 2013.11.02 16:50:00 - [8] - Quote Prince Kobol wrote: Baali Tekitsu wrote: Theyre a sponsor whos only interest is advertising and whos paying for advertising not a community thingie as which they got their community spotlight. Does include Eve Uni, RvB and the latest Eve Fiction competition then? Their sponsorship certainly does GÇö that's still just taking advantage of a community event to advertise their brands. The difference is that they also provide actual community contributions through their own events and community services (none of which break the EULA by being businesses). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.

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