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Stradivarious
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:04:00 -
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My basic Mach setup, not my sniper setup mind you which I'll keep for myself and people that have managed to kill them :p
6 1400 IIs, 2 rocket launchers with defenders(does a number on cruise ravens  )
1 target painter II, 1 x-large shield booster II, 2 tracking comp IIs, 1 shadow serp sensor booster
1 pdu 2, 6 gyro IIs, sometimes swap one for a med armor rep(if operating without support) or a local nano
And to the person who said he couldn't understand taking a mach into pvp, I pity you, why else would you get one? There are far better PVE ships, the Machariel was designed to be king of the battelfield 
I like to think of myself as the chlorine in the gene pool.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Stradivarious
1 pdu 2, 6 gyro IIs, sometimes swap one for a med armor rep(if operating without support) or a local nano
Seems someone isn't aware of the stacking penalities in RMR
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Stradivarious
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: Stradivarious
1 pdu 2, 6 gyro IIs, sometimes swap one for a med armor rep(if operating without support) or a local nano
Seems someone isn't aware of the stacking penalities in RMR
No sounds like someone hasn't actually watched the numbers and just believed everything ccp has told you... put that many on, and take one off, yes there is a penalty for having that many, does your ROF and damage still go up, YES, is it as much as pre RMR, no, but damage and ROF is damage and ROF, every little bit helps. It never actually goes down like ccp said it would, hence their stacking penalty is still borked, which is why they are addressing it YET AGAIN this coming patch...
I like to think of myself as the chlorine in the gene pool.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: KilROCK on 11/02/2006 17:27:17
I did watch the number and i came to the conclusion the increase is abysmal and fitted tracking enhancer/pdu instead.
they didn't say it would go down, they said the increase after a 4th damage mod would be minimal, and it is. Enough to make me want to fit a module worth using.
And they aren't modifying the way damage modules stack in the upcoming patch. Don't know where you got that info from.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:29:00 -
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What I can afford;
5 d650 2's, d425 2, h dimin, named sb
named mwd, cap booster, 20k, web, sensor booster ( )
2xaccommo, 2xEANM 2, 2 gyro, plate.
p - l - u - r
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Stradivarious
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 11/02/2006 17:27:17
I did watch the number and i came to the conclusion the increase is abysmal and fitted tracking enhancer/pdu instead.
they didn't say it would go down, they said the increase after a 4th damage mod would be minimal, and it is. Enough to make me want to fit a module worth using.
And they aren't modifying the way damage modules stack in the upcoming patch. Don't know where you got that info from.
Read the latest dev blog m8, Dev Blog , oveur specifically mentions adjusting stacking yet again, and yes to some that small amount of difference would seem abysmal, but that small difference has saved me more often then a little bit of tracking or anything else would, without slowing me down or degrading performance in some other area.
I like to think of myself as the chlorine in the gene pool.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: KilROCK on 11/02/2006 17:39:37
Ah, it's a new blog, didn't see it.
Quote:
Stacking nerf adjusted to prevent exploitable setups and situations
I think you need to get up to date because that doesn't mean damage mod at all, More like the scorpion and raven using 2-3 shield amp + cap relays, since the stacking is all bugged and it allows you to run a tank forever.
Once again, your 6 gyros are useless and that doesn't even concern them.
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Morlock
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Posted - 2006.03.03 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Morlock on 03/03/2006 16:25:26
I use this setup for pve.
6x 1400IIs, 2x arbalest cruise
large SBII, 2x invulII, sensor booster II, ABII
4x PDUIIs, 2x GyroII, Tracking EnhancerII
5 small ecm drones for emergency exit, 5 medium drones for anti-frig
Works really well. If you want more tank, switch the AB for another invulII and a sensor booster for a large shield extender, and then switch the gyros and tracking enhancers for a full rack of PDUII and one damage control unit.
This will all barely fit(100%cpu) with maxed skills in fitting.
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xKillaH
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Posted - 2006.03.03 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
the cookie cutter
dual 650mm II x 6
heavy dim nos x 2
ab x 1
20k scram x 1
web x 1
multispec x 1
heavy elec cap booster x 1
2 reps
2-3 energized adaptives II
2-3 gyros II
once you have that, pimp it as much as possible
hehe this is nearly exacly the same as the tempest setup I have except 1 extra low and much more dps/rof
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.03.03 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 11/02/2006 17:39:37
Ah, it's a new blog, didn't see it.
Quote:
Stacking nerf adjusted to prevent exploitable setups and situations
I think you need to get up to date because that doesn't mean damage mod at all, More like the scorpion and raven using 2-3 shield amp + cap relays, since the stacking is all bugged and it allows you to run a tank forever.
Once again, your 6 gyros are useless and that doesn't even concern them.
6 gyros do more damage than 4 gyros, right?
If yes, then=discussion over.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.03 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 11/02/2006 17:39:37
Ah, it's a new blog, didn't see it.
Quote:
Stacking nerf adjusted to prevent exploitable setups and situations
I think you need to get up to date because that doesn't mean damage mod at all, More like the scorpion and raven using 2-3 shield amp + cap relays, since the stacking is all bugged and it allows you to run a tank forever.
Once again, your 6 gyros are useless and that doesn't even concern them.
6 gyros do more damage than 4 gyros, right?
If yes, then=discussion over.
You will max out with 4 gyros. Think 3 would be better because you can save 1 slot for something nice.
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Danitar
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Posted - 2006.03.04 00:38:00 -
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OK Your all wrong....
Here is what you do with a MAch..
Highs-- tech II autto cannons (the Chrome ones)
MIds--- officer and faction mods (just the Chrome ones)
Lows--- Officer or faction spinners ( the Chrome ones)
Then get your pimp on !!!!
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Dywolf
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Posted - 2006.03.26 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: Guardian Alpha
since a lot of people may have trained up for the Mac' but never flew a tempest.
If you train for a machariel without flying a tempest first, there goes all the BASIC of flying your ship well, bypassed to feel special in a pimpy looking ship.
Don't post crap like that, I'd rather see a machariel blew up than see someone fly it just because 'it's a faction bs'.
lose the attitude dude.
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Kai Jyokoroi
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Posted - 2006.04.04 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dywolf
Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: Guardian Alpha
since a lot of people may have trained up for the Mac' but never flew a tempest.
If you train for a machariel without flying a tempest first, there goes all the BASIC of flying your ship well, bypassed to feel special in a pimpy looking ship.
Don't post crap like that, I'd rather see a machariel blew up than see someone fly it just because 'it's a faction bs'.
lose the attitude dude.
Yeah, he's trolled every single Machariel thread there's ever been saying (basically) that a) no-one should fly it except for him because he's the ONLY one that knows a good fitting and b) flaming people when they ask for said fitting... don't worry about it.
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.04 05:59:00 -
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You can fly a Mach just fine with never having a Tempest...fitting it however is where your pest xp comes in handy.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.04.04 07:38:00 -
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Sniping
6 1400MM Howitzer Artilery Cannon II's
2 Corpus X-Type Heavy Nos
2 Sensor Booster II's
2 T2 Tracking Comps
1 P.W.N.A.G.E. Target Painter
1 Chelm's Reactor Control Unit
3 T2 Tracking Enhancers
3 T2 or Officer Gyrostabilizers
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Yes, there will be no taking back
Every journey must come to an end
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Tessa Vaako
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Posted - 2006.04.04 15:00:00 -
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I've been having fun ratting with a blaster-thron and figured that I could basiclly follow the same ideas.
Now that I have a BPC of this fine ship, I figured I'd go for a similar idea as my successful 'thron.
6x Dual 650s (Best I can afford/loot)
2x Heavy NOS (ditto)
1x Named MWD
1x Large Cap Booster (for the MWD run up to the target)
1x Webber (X5 or better)
2x ECM (rat specific)
1x Large T2 repper
3x Gyrostab IIs
3x N-Type active Hardners (Rat specific)
According to Quickfit, It is very tight on CPU, but does fit for me.
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.04.04 15:19:00 -
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There is only one true way to setup a machariel:
1xEM Hardener
2xInvulnerability Fields
1xX-Large SB
1xShield Boost amp
4xCo-proc II
3xWCS
6xMiner II
Do it. You know you want to. 
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cy4n1d3
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:41:00 -
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You want a real setup?
6x800 II's with barrage-L
2xArb Siege or Cruise
3x Tracking comp II's
2x Sensor boost II's or ECM II's or 2x 20k Disruptor depending on situation
3x Gyro II's
4x WCS
.13 tracking with 800 2's = GG
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: cy4n1d3
You want a real setup?
6x800 II's with barrage-L
2xArb Siege or Cruise
3x Tracking comp II's
2x Sensor boost II's or ECM II's or 2x 20k Disruptor depending on situation
3x Gyro II's
4x WCS
.13 tracking with 800 2's = GG
If you are not kidding you are going to get flamed 
Originally by: Mang0o
200m sexy ill bid on yours becouse you are so cute 
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Kai Jyokoroi
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Posted - 2006.04.06 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: cy4n1d3
You want a real setup?
6x800 II's with barrage-L
2xArb Siege or Cruise
3x Tracking comp II's
2x Sensor boost II's or ECM II's or 2x 20k Disruptor depending on situation
3x Gyro II's
4x WCS
.13 tracking with 800 2's = GG
Oh man, PLEASE come and fight me in my Domi with that. I KNOW I could beat you, and that's with a ship that cost me all of 5 million to build and fit (I get my mins and fittings from NPCs.)
Plz plz plz plz plz, then I could have a faction BS on my killboard
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.04.06 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi
Oh man, PLEASE come and fight me in my Domi with that. I KNOW I could beat you, and that's with a ship that cost me all of 5 million to build and fit (I get my mins and fittings from NPCs.)
5 Million? No....it didnt. If you take the ammount of mins that you used to build your Domi, and multiply each mineral by the best market price you could have got for that mineral, then that is the cost of your Dominix.
Not flaming or anything, its just in my experience it tends to be cheaper for me to sell the mins required to build any ship to the highest bidder, and then to buy the cheapest ship on the market.
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Rezeik Aurelius
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Posted - 2006.04.15 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Rezeik Aurelius on 15/04/2006 23:57:45
I'm glad I'm not the only person who has discovered that, Twilight...
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.04.16 00:05:00 -
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I generally prefer a standard AC tempest fitting plus one of the following in the extra lowslot:
Gyrostab II
Energized Adaptive Nano II
Internal Force Field Damage Control
Ladar Backup Array II (26 sensor strength, biatch!)
-Wrayeth
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.04.16 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Stradivarious
And to the person who said he couldn't understand taking a mach into pvp, I pity you, why else would you get one? There are far better PVE ships, the Machariel was designed to be king of the battelfield
 
QFT
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Voodoo Papa
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Posted - 2006.04.22 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Morlock
Edited by: Morlock on 03/03/2006 16:25:26
I use this setup for pve.
6x 1400IIs, 2x arbalest cruise
large SBII, 2x invulII, sensor booster II, ABII
4x PDUIIs, 2x GyroII, Tracking EnhancerII
5 small ecm drones for emergency exit, 5 medium drones for anti-frig
Works really well. If you want more tank, switch the AB for another invulII and a sensor booster for a large shield extender, and then switch the gyros and tracking enhancers for a full rack of PDUII and one damage control unit.
This will all barely fit(100%cpu) with maxed skills in fitting.
is this setup working good for you on missions? why shield tank instead of armor tanking? how do your turrets track against the frigates?
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Aloysius Knight on 22/04/2006 16:27:50
for pvp
thats with armour skills at 3, get then higher and it gets even more uber
==[ MACHARIEL ]==
Powergrid : 17829.0 / 19375.0 MW
CPU : 652.0 / 687.5 tf
Velocity : 2067.57 m/sec
Armor HP : 8695.0
Armor EM : 87.52 %
Armor Explo : 63.99 %
Armor Kinetic : 68.81 %
Armor Thermal : 72.97 %
HIGH-SLOTS :
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- [ 228 | 25] Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
- [1350 | 24] Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
- [1350 | 24] Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
- [1350 | 24] Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
- [1350 | 24] Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
- [1350 | 24] Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
- [1350 | 24] Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
- [ 228 | 25] Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
MED-SLOTS :
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- [ 1 | 30] Dread Guristas Warp Scrambler
- [ 1 | 30] true sansha web
- [ 1 | 55] Dread Guristas ECM Multispectral Jammer
- [2275 | 40] Vizan's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster
- [1500 | 75] Gist X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive
LOW-SLOTS :
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- [ 2 | 32] Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
- [ 2 | 32] Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
- [ 1 | 20] Domination Gyrostabilizer
- [ 1 | 20] Domination Gyrostabilizer
- [2800 | 46] Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer
- [2800 | 46] Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer
- [ 1 | 17] Internal Force Field Array I
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2006.05.06 11:16:00 -
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ye dont undock in a mach.. if you dont fit a mwd...
ôThe harder the battle, the sweeter the victory.ö
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schurem
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Posted - 2006.05.06 12:05:00 -
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650's up top, cap rechargers, a tracking comp and a web in mids, and a pimpy armor tank down low.
pimpy? three true sansha hardeners and a centus X type LAR. plate, nano and a forcefield array to make shure it stays together and alive.
oh yes, its good :D
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Ben Hump
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Posted - 2006.05.06 12:59:00 -
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6x 650mm II, Heavy dimishing, Med nos II
Shadow serp warpscrambler, truesanshas disruptor, cap injector, core x-type MWD, webber
2 large reppII, explosive hardner II, adaptive nanoII, dmg control(great for tigth situations, mach has a huge hull), gyrostab II and a cap relay
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