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Caellan Traverse
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.11.04 20:29:00 -
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Unbelievable, I know. But I'm genuinely stuck here 
All I'm trying to do is transfer some Veldspar from the Station I'm on to my ship's cargo hold. I have both windows open, drag from the Station inventory, into my ship's cargo hold, and... nothing happens. I can't even shift-drag to only move a specific amount - the window to ask how many I want to move doesn't even show up.
Surely this can't be a bug? I must be missing something really simple... |

Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
682
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Posted - 2013.11.04 20:31:00 -
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Drag from station inventory drop into cargo hold. You don't need two windows, you can use the tree to see the cargo hold.
Are you sure you're dropping it on the cargo hold? Not somewhere else? Are you getting any messages at all? Can you shift-drag around station inventory (if not, it may be connection problems) |

Caellan Traverse
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.11.04 20:36:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote: Can you shift-drag around station inventory (if not, it may be connection problems) I can't shift-drag to split the Veldspar even within the station inventory, if that's what you mean. Nothing happens :(
I'll try relogging and see if that helps. |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1630
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Posted - 2013.11.05 03:07:00 -
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The assets tab shows your stuff from all over the universe. You can't move items from another station to your ship's cargo, so dragging from that list doesn't make much sense. |

Caellan Traverse
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.11.05 23:45:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:The assets tab shows your stuff from all over the universe. You can't move items from another station to your ship's cargo, so dragging from that list doesn't make much sense. It doesn't make much sense if I'm dragging items from a distant station. But it makes perfect sense if I'm dragging them from the station I'm on. Especially since the layout is almost identical to the inventory tab.
I really do like this game, and want to get fully immersed in it... but damn the UI is convoluted and senseless.
"Here are the items you have from the Station you're in right now. No, you can't transfer them from this menu. You have to access a different menu that looks exactly the same to do that." |

Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
97
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Posted - 2013.11.05 23:53:00 -
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The UI has seen significant improvements over the years, If you think it is bad now you should have seen it 5 years ago when I started playing. Things were even less intuitive back then lol. And there was no tutorial at all to help you.
Overall while it still is much less smooth compared to newer mmos, You get used to it. |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2214
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Posted - 2013.11.06 00:13:00 -
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I recommend reading about "Unified Inventory".
Google site:community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs unified inventory
Example: * You can open multiple windows by holding the SHIFT key. * You can open a window by dragging out of the tree. * You can make filters persistent across containers in the inventory window's options menu. * You can enable your inventory and ships to show on the station panel in the ESC menu. * You can have a different window layout for in-space and in-station. |

Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
298
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Posted - 2013.11.06 00:57:00 -
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Caellan Traverse wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:The assets tab shows your stuff from all over the universe. You can't move items from another station to your ship's cargo, so dragging from that list doesn't make much sense. It doesn't make much sense if I'm dragging items from a distant station. But it makes perfect sense if I'm dragging them from the station I'm on. Especially since the layout is almost identical to the inventory tab. I really do like this game, and want to get fully immersed in it... but damn the UI is convoluted and senseless. "Here are the items you have from the Station you're in right now. No, you can't transfer them from this menu. You have to access a different menu that looks exactly the same to do that." Eh? The Assets window looks absolutely nothing like the Inventory window. |

Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
685
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:56:00 -
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Think of inventory (Alt-C) as the items in the room that you're currently standing in and assets (Alt-T) as a computerised list of what you own everywhere.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
2420
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Posted - 2013.11.06 08:32:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Caellan Traverse wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:The assets tab shows your stuff from all over the universe. You can't move items from another station to your ship's cargo, so dragging from that list doesn't make much sense. It doesn't make much sense if I'm dragging items from a distant station. But it makes perfect sense if I'm dragging them from the station I'm on. Especially since the layout is almost identical to the inventory tab. I really do like this game, and want to get fully immersed in it... but damn the UI is convoluted and senseless. "Here are the items you have from the Station you're in right now. No, you can't transfer them from this menu. You have to access a different menu that looks exactly the same to do that." Eh? The Assets window looks absolutely nothing like the Inventory window.
this. The assets window doesnt look like the inventory window at all. I'm not even going to try to pist the differences.
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Caellan Traverse
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.11.06 14:51:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Caellan Traverse wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:The assets tab shows your stuff from all over the universe. You can't move items from another station to your ship's cargo, so dragging from that list doesn't make much sense. It doesn't make much sense if I'm dragging items from a distant station. But it makes perfect sense if I'm dragging them from the station I'm on. Especially since the layout is almost identical to the inventory tab. I really do like this game, and want to get fully immersed in it... but damn the UI is convoluted and senseless. "Here are the items you have from the Station you're in right now. No, you can't transfer them from this menu. You have to access a different menu that looks exactly the same to do that." Eh? The Assets window looks absolutely nothing like the Inventory window. Maybe not when you're used to it, but to me it's pretty much visually identical. The only difference being it can show a list of items from all other stations and ships, and not just the current station.
I clicked on the "box" icon named "assets", saw a list of items for the station I was on, and naturally assumed it must be an accessible inventory. It's definitely my mistake for assuming that, but if you don't see how that's an easy mistake for a newcomer to make... well  |

J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
2420
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Posted - 2013.11.06 17:04:00 -
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Caellan Traverse wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Caellan Traverse wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:The assets tab shows your stuff from all over the universe. You can't move items from another station to your ship's cargo, so dragging from that list doesn't make much sense. It doesn't make much sense if I'm dragging items from a distant station. But it makes perfect sense if I'm dragging them from the station I'm on. Especially since the layout is almost identical to the inventory tab. I really do like this game, and want to get fully immersed in it... but damn the UI is convoluted and senseless. "Here are the items you have from the Station you're in right now. No, you can't transfer them from this menu. You have to access a different menu that looks exactly the same to do that." Eh? The Assets window looks absolutely nothing like the Inventory window. Maybe not when you're used to it, but to me it's pretty much visually identical. The only difference being it can show a list of items from all other stations and ships, and not just the current station. I clicked on the "box" icon named "assets", saw a list of items for the station I was on, and naturally assumed it must be an accessible inventory. It's definitely my mistake for assuming that, but if you don't see how that's an easy mistake for a newcomer to make... well 
1. Assets list all stations you have items in. 2. Inventory has a tree on the right (ship, ship hangar, item station hold, corp hangars) 3. Inventory has a filter ability under the tree 4. Inventory can show items in tile mode 5. Assets has top tabs to change the range of the search.
And yes, it is an easy to make mistake for a new player, but the 2 windows do not look the same. |

Winter Archipelago
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.11.06 17:30:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:And yes, it is an easy to make mistake for a new player, but the 2 windows do not look the same. I suspect he's actually put all of his items in list view (which shows no images) in his actual hangar tab. I was looking at the two windows last night, and when you put everything in list view, the two can actually look rather similar. |
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