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Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.05 23:55:00 -
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Proteus is the best C3 soloer by miles, so if you can fly one of those use it. |

Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.06 00:42:00 -
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[New Setup 1] Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer,Nanite Repair Paste Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II True Sansha Armor EM Hardener Capacitor Power Relay II
Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
200mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Small Tractor Beam II Expanded Probe Launcher II,Core Scanner Probe I Salvager II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Over 800 DPS, loots/salvages the site while you're running it, very overtanked. You won't lose any drones besides Hobgoblins once you know how drone aggro in WHs works and you can carry a bunch of spare ones. |

Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.06 01:56:00 -
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Ugh, a five-gun Legion. Not only will you spend about five minutes pew pewing each battleship, but you need to bring a Noctis along afterwards to loot ****. |

Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:38:00 -
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The Tengu fit is pretty good, the only downside is it basically requires you two-boxing a probing alt.
Cargo is absolutely not a problem though, just jettison all non-ribbon salvage, it's not like it's worth anything. You'll finish 30 sites minimum before you fill up your cargo with blue loot and ribbons. |

Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.17 05:29:00 -
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7enn wrote:Take the isk spent on any of these noob T3 fits, buy manyseveral drakes and make some profit. Are you doing these sites to make isk or to fly around in an overpriced glory boat that blinks gank me cuz it will hurt?
A type this, C type that. For a C3 sleeper site? 800dps on a 1.3 bil isk proteus??? How about get an astarte and put rails and 1 heavy launcher in the highs and have near 1000 dps. With the left over isk buy a second an a third and forget about it.
If you need to put a high grade set of crystals/slaves in your head - that's fine. If you need to plug them in to run pve in a C3 you might be a little.... whacky!?!
There are so many options in the sub billion isk range that do better damage than the cream puffs these guys are linking. I question their motives for pushing you towards such an overpriced ship. Wait for the expansion and fly the sisters of eve ships like everyone else.
Astarte is definitely a good option, however, it's not at clear cut as you say.
Astarte needs 3-4 months of specialized training just to undock it. 2 months of that training is essentially wasted timesink SP that will never provide you any benefit other than allowing you to undock a command ship. Astarte hull price is also up to 330m in Jita. The hull cost for the drone Proteus I posted is 340m at current Jita prices.
The Astarte tank is far, far worse. It's got double the sig radius which means double the damage from Sleeper BS missiles. The Proteus can basically ignore these and go with a pure EM/Therm tank. You're also going to have major cap problems against the Sleepers that neut, you can get the 800 DPS, oversized-AB Proteus cap stable on a 500 omni-DPS, 750 EM/Therm DPS tank. The Astarte can definitely tank and run C3s, but your margin of error is much lower. If Sleeper frigs get under your railguns you have to rely on unbonused light drones to scrape them off.
I also dunno where you get "billion ISK Proteus" from. A C-type medium repper is 60m, a SS 100MN AB is 50m. The Proteus fit I posted costs 525-535m for the whole thing.
Passive Drake sure works as the super-cheap option, but the DPS is absolutely terrible and you're looking at probably at over an hour per site if you count having to come back with a Noctis or destroyer to loot everything. |

Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:34:00 -
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Ryu BullFrog wrote: I'm really interested in this fit of your's... however i must question how can u keep the aggro of the drones? is it ur speed?
The sleepers will simply not aggro your drones if there are no sleeper frigs alive. You will occasionally lose a hobgoblin while using them to kill frigs, but larger drones are never lost. You can even scoop hobgoblins most of the time with some practice, the main issue with scooping them is the sleepers all stop webbing you and start webbing the target drone, making you shoot off out of scoop range.
Sentry drones might be an exception, I've never actually used them in a WH site, but I've used mediums and heavies plenty and the sleepers simply don't shoot them as long as you don't launch them when there are sleeper frigs active. |
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