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Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.05 19:39:00 - [1] - Quote Hey everyone! How are you all doing? :D Anyways, on to the topic at hand! I have 5 accounts in EVE, and i recently thought i would use them to mission run lvl 4s, do DED stuff, etc. How viable is 5 drakes at doing lvl 4s and such? And after the drakes, what should i aim for (OTHER than the raven, hate the raven) Opinions are all welcome :D Thanks in advance!
Vilton Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.11.05 19:57:00 - [2] - Quote Supreme Soviet wrote: Hey everyone! How are you all doing? :D Anyways, on to the topic at hand! I have 5 accounts in EVE, and i recently thought i would use them to mission run lvl 4s, do DED stuff, etc. How viable is 5 drakes at doing lvl 4s and such? And after the drakes, what should i aim for (OTHER than the raven, hate the raven) Opinions are all welcome :D Thanks in advance! I'd suggest to stick with 1-2 chars for the combat plus a salvager (depending on amount of monitors) and train towards the Tengu.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.05 20:33:00 - [3] - Quote Tengu sounds neat! But, kinda want to stick with my 5 lol :D Worked hard and invested a lot into them already ;) But thanks for the Tengu idea! :D
Morrigan LeSante The Lost and Forgotten Troopers 434	Posted - 2013.11.05 21:12:00 - [4] - Quote Train one into a rapid fire long range user (Machariel). Put the rest in domis and assist said machariel. Clean house in record time.
Pragda Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.11.05 21:33:00 - [5] - Quote Morrigan LeSante wrote: Train one into a rapid fire long range user (Machariel). Put the rest in domis and assist said machariel. Clean house in record time. Perfect idea
Marcus Walkuris Aww yeahhh 23	Posted - 2013.11.05 23:16:00 - [6] - Quote Doing lvl4 missions with 5 characters no matter what they fly is insane unless that is what you somehow get a kick out of. You could use 5 miners to mine in 0.9 systems and make better income... It is already inefficient to have 2 combat vessels in the same mission. If you really insist on 5 characters though I would say 2x 2 dominix with some remote rep and 1 salvager character. Nothing can stand that amount of AFK dps, you wont even need to fit them with MJD.
Ireland VonVicious Vicious Trading Company 213	Posted - 2013.11.06 00:22:00 - [7] - Quote Drake has had 2 relatively recent nerfs. L4 drake is dead. Navy Scorpion. Followed by Rattlesnake once you have lots of SP.
Dato Koppla Perkone Caldari State 333	Posted - 2013.11.06 01:27:00 - [8] - Quote Dual boxing L4s is still efficient as you can complete missions much faster and more dps means less tank needed so you can get more out of each ship. However trying to Quintuple-box L4s isn't a smart idea. You should set the other toons to do other things like P.I., mining, hauling or something like that. That being said, if you don't want to use Ravens you can go for a Tengu but frankly the Raven family is better. Or you can do it right and go Mach + Domi.
Cyrus Sacred Templars Fatal Ascension 11	Posted - 2013.11.06 04:00:00 - [9] - Quote If you hate the raven, you have to find the drake as absolutely repulsive. As for what works best for 5 accounts though, that would be the dominix. You can have all the drones assist one ship. A good turret boat works best as lead.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.06 06:51:00 - [10] - Quote I think i should have mentioned i am not looking to make tons of isk per hour lol :P My fault for not stating that. This is something i want to do for fun :D But many great ideas here! Also, the reason i hate the Raven is not because of its function, but because how how it looks :P Never was partial to it. I find the Drake wonderful, and considering it is the perfect ship to test my 5 ship control for future efforts. I also plan on doing sites and incursions, and the drakes would be great practice for the bigger ships needed. Trying to stay away from drone boats and sticking to either missiles or lasers. That being said, my end goal would probably be either a rattlesnake/CNS, or maybe 5 abaddons XD Loving some ideas thus far though :)
Marcus Walkuris Aww yeahhh 23	Posted - 2013.11.06 10:32:00 - [11] - Quote I will whole-heartedly advise you to rattlesnake out of those. Lots of tank spare highs or FoF missiles, you want to train for using the setup, then you might as well make it a low stress one. Of-course you should get that program to run multiple accounts too, don't know its name though. Just google multi-box EvE program.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:47:00 - [12] - Quote I already do use that program :) It is called ISboxer, just FYI :D Rattlesnakes seem like the logical step up, as you say. Won't stop me from checking out stuff like 5 Tornados XD They might not tank at all, but i am pretty sure we can work with that potential dps :P Thanks for your input!
Nolen Cadmar Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking 9	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:34:00 - [13] - Quote Ireland VonVicious wrote: Navy Scorpion. Followed by Rattlesnake once you have lots of SP. This. Rattle b/c of it's passive regen ability. No need to turn on/off active reppers. Works pretty well with sentry drones too.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.06 19:51:00 - [14] - Quote Rattlesnake it is! Just FYI! Tested the Five Drake fleet. Works awesomely! 30 heavy missiles pounding targets to oblivion XD Thank you all for your replies! Fly Safe!
Marcus Walkuris Aww yeahhh 24	Posted - 2013.11.06 21:26:00 - [15] - Quote The rattlesnake is essentially the drake of the BS class, despite it being drone based. It has the tanking bonus and the largest shield recharge and capacity. Allowing for the passive and active setup. But with multiple ships you may be able to use some kind of freak remote rep+shield extender setup. Focussing on active tanking but buffered as well sacrificing some dps, this was always the attraction to drakes the flexibility. Sadly drakes only flexibility now is bending over backwards to do no dps.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:47:00 - [16] - Quote I dunno lol, the drakes seem to be doing fine lol :P 30 heavy missiles at one target is pretty fantastic :P
Marcus Walkuris Aww yeahhh 24	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:58:00 - [17] - Quote Well yes, five drakes after all..
Cage Man 288	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:00:00 - [18] - Quote I messed around with an armor buffered hyena and 2 rr RS. Probably work with domis just as easily. Run a cap chain on the RS, use one large armor RR from each RS to the hyena, leave them permanently on. Fit ab, 2 tp and 2 fed webs on hyena, assign all sentries to the hyena. The hyena targets pretty quickly and the sentries will blow through stuff extremely quickly. use 1 tp per target so when one npc dies, you can put free tp on the next. Anything that gets too close and the sentries can't hit, double web tp and it dies. Hyena just orbits RS with ab on. But if you happy with the drakes.. then why change :) except maybe to some Tengu's or NH's for some extra dps
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 4266	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:03:00 - [19] - Quote Salvaging the missions after your drakes have swept through is going to be very time consuming: one character in a noctis will keep you busy pressing buttons for several minutes when cleaning up after a Blockade, for example. I highly recommend contracting someone to do your salvaging for you: you get to do the fun stuff and get half of the value of your salvage and loot for very little extra work (just bookmark wrecks and contract them to the salvager). Check for salvagers in local at your mission hub: I highly recommend Pro Synergy.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:05:00 - [20] - Quote Nice tips! Also, i usually just give my salvage to anyone who wants them in Local lol. In regards to the ugly ship known as Raven, Would it be a decent stepping stone? Since my alts only need 1 day to use it decently left on the training. Recommendations regarding this?
Eaphod Interstellar Hitchhiker's Holding Corp 12	Posted - 2013.11.07 15:15:00 - [21] - Quote Supreme Soviet wrote: Nice tips! Also, i usually just give my salvage to anyone who wants them in Local lol. In regards to the ugly ship known as Raven, Would it be a decent stepping stone? Since my alts only need 1 day to use it decently left on the training. Recommendations regarding this? I'm all about people finding their own fun in the game, but not using one of those 5 accounts to salvage instead of running 5 Drakes? This just makes my EVE-sense tingle in all the wrong ways. EDIT: The Raven would be a very notable upgrade from the Drake, and the Navy Raven again after that. I think you'll find more fun in it really blasting those Battleships with 4-5x Raven/Navy Raven.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.07 17:22:00 - [22] - Quote Think is, i have no patience for salvaging. I love trying out new ways to make things explode. I have the largest grin when i see all 30 missiles rise from their launchers and head towards the poor bastard of a target :P But yeah! Ravens! :D Seems cool!
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 956	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:12:00 - [23] - Quote 5 drakes would slaughter level 4's if you're using ISBoxer or similar. Would be kind of hard to micromanage without. Yeah other combos could do it more efficiently, I.E.less accounts, but 5 drakes would kill stuff so fast that they wouldn't need uber tanks. And the small stuff would die quite easily. Also, overkill is overkill. 5 of anything is going to overkill small targets. With a Raven I think it would even overkill battleships quite a lot. And 5 ravens would be harder to keep the target raven alive. But it would still be cool.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.10 00:26:00 - [24] - Quote Overkill is exactly what i aiming for :P
Estella Osoka Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis 154	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:00:00 - [25] - Quote Then I would suggest you use something with guns. DPS will be applied faster. Maybe something with rails like a Naga. Arty Nados would be good, but I don't like the 16 seconds between shots.
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 961	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:56:00 - [26] - Quote Overkill wont make it faster. Just sayin'.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.11 09:10:00 - [27] - Quote You sure? Because i have seen a drastic drop in the time it takes to fnish missions with my drakes lol :P I was actually contemplating maybe 5 tornados, but instead, i will save the money for ravens :P
Marcus Walkuris Aww yeahhh 27	Posted - 2013.11.11 10:25:00 - [28] - Quote IF that is your style you should go with railgun boats. Railguns are flexible enough with kinetic thermal, have a faster rate of fire then artillery and apply instantly. You should get very nice "pops" with that setup. I don't think you can get better applied dps then that except for for with sentry ships. But that seems to not be your intent.
Supreme Soviet Universal Dynamics Corp 1	Posted - 2013.11.11 12:58:00 - [29] - Quote I would consider rails, but i have to train for them, since my alts have NO rail skills at all. I think it would be better for me toc ontinue with cruise, since they already have lvl 3, and only need 1 more day to fly a raven. i am guessing with 5 ravens, i don't have to worry much about tank and maybe put more damage mods?

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