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Exelsior	Posted - 2006.02.11 19:46:00 - [1] Edited by: Exelsior on 11/02/2006 19:46:43 Are there any ideas, hints, or any info as to what the slot arrangement on these will be? ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched.
Twin blade	Posted - 2006.02.11 19:54:00 - [2] I am sure i have read that they all have 8 turret slot's if that is of any help.
Exelsior	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:01:00 - [3] Sure that helps. I mean can bring forth guesses. -For example Amarr are likely to be a drone carrier (arbitrator style) as really i can't think of any other role that amarr BSes don't do that is traditional (tank, do loads of DPS). -Caldari i've heard are gonna get a railboat, yippie for them hybrid lovers and a shame for missile users. -Minmatar will probably get a missile ship mixed with drone carrier or something very versatile yet useless at any particular task. -While Gallente i guess would...erm...well they have a drone carrier, they have a blasterthron/sniperthron. I don't know what they're lacking. Perhaps they'll just increase slots from the megathron design or something. But really i meant hints and leaks as to actual slot arrangements, so 8 high slots for them all is good news ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched.
Twin blade	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:06:00 - [4] No the minniy one has got 8 turret slot's for sure i know that much and a PG able to load 8 1400's with only 1 RCU T2 other than that i don't know any more.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:40:00 - [5] http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/Sarmaul/tier3.html (in-game only) Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Sarmaul 4tw.
mrg29	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:08:00 - [6] Originally by: Exelsior -Minmatar will probably get a missile ship mixed with drone carrier or something very versatile yet useless at any particular task. minmatar already have one of these - its called the typhoon - we dont need another thanks. -
Exelsior	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:23:00 - [7] Originally by: mrg29 Originally by: Exelsior -Minmatar will probably get a missile ship mixed with drone carrier or something very versatile yet useless at any particular task. minmatar already have one of these - its called the typhoon - we dont need another thanks. Sorry, not a minmatar ship specialist here :( Anyone have any suggestiosn as to what they may get then? ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched.
BlackDog Rackh'am	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:23:00 - [8] I would like a fast, short range ship for the minnie tier 3 BS. I wouldn't fly it if it had the same weird notion of "versatility" that the typhoon suffers from. In fact, i might start shooting thukker mix or boundless creations stations in empire if they design it with mixed bonuses, or turret/missile slots split in half . 8 high slots with a 7 turret/1 missile/1 turret and missile hardpoint configuration would be nice. I would like it to be versatile in the real sense of the word, with a proper balance between medium and low slots, allowing for both armor and shield tank, with a slight bias towards one or the other and distinct pros and cons for each choice. Shield tank with dmg mods,or cap boosted armor tank with EW? So,no mixed hardpoint slots and/or bonuses, but mixed meds and lows, so we can have nice fitting options with gains and trade offs for balance's sake. However, please don't give it 7 lows and then make it have bigger shields than armor. We have to specify again that is is not versatility. In short, i would like an oversized vagabond, without the benefits that go into t2 ships of course,like the insane resistances. Originally by: Black Lotus I vote u for KIA spokesperson.
Exelsior	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Sarmaul http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/Sarmaul/tier3.html (in-game only) Hey where'dyou get that from? ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Exelsior Originally by: Sarmaul http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/Sarmaul/tier3.html (in-game only) Hey where'dyou get that from? I made it - the placeholders for tier 3 bs are in the item database (not the one on eve-o). Just just made an html document that displays them. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Sarmaul 4tw.

Exelsior	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:32:00 - [11] Edited by: Exelsior on 11/02/2006 21:32:14 Nice one Sarmaul. However i don't understand why the amarr drone bay is so crap :( Just looks like an apoc with an extra low really. ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched.
StinkFinger	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:40:00 - [12] Edited by: StinkFinger on 11/02/2006 21:39:57 Make em armor/shield resist reducers and buffers with anti-frig and anti-ew capabilities. New roles for new ships. --
xKillaH	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:48:00 - [13] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Exelsior Originally by: Sarmaul http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/Sarmaul/tier3.html (in-game only) Hey where'dyou get that from? I made it - the placeholders for tier 3 bs are in the item database (not the one on eve-o). Just just made an html document that displays them. well this can't be true... megathron with 5med slots.. that would be to much own! Need a Sig? Check Gallery
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:56:00 - [14] Originally by: Exelsior Edited by: Exelsior on 11/02/2006 21:32:14 Nice one Sarmaul. However i don't understand why the amarr drone bay is so crap :( Just looks like an apoc with an extra low really. That's because drone usage isn't part of Amarr's weapons profile. If any of the tier 3 become a drone boat, it'd be the Gallentean one, and to be honest the Dominix is good enough that we really don't need another drone battleship (and one that is far better to boot!) Chuck Norris is in violation of several articles in the CONCORD charter. Luckily no one has told him this.
Exelsior	Posted - 2006.02.11 22:07:00 - [15] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: Exelsior Edited by: Exelsior on 11/02/2006 21:32:14 Nice one Sarmaul. However i don't understand why the amarr drone bay is so crap :( Just looks like an apoc with an extra low really. That's because drone usage isn't part of Amarr's weapons profile. If any of the tier 3 become a drone boat, it'd be the Gallentean one, and to be honest the Dominix is good enough that we really don't need another drone battleship (and one that is far better to boot!) But the arbitrator? And the Amarr Recon Ships are based on the arbitrator and all have 75m3 of drone space, better iirc than all of the other recon ships. ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched.
Ceilidh	Posted - 2006.02.11 23:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Exelsior Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: Exelsior Edited by: Exelsior on 11/02/2006 21:32:14 Nice one Sarmaul. However i don't understand why the amarr drone bay is so crap :( Just looks like an apoc with an extra low really. That's because drone usage isn't part of Amarr's weapons profile. If any of the tier 3 become a drone boat, it'd be the Gallentean one, and to be honest the Dominix is good enough that we really don't need another drone battleship (and one that is far better to boot!) But the arbitrator? And the Amarr Recon Ships are based on the arbitrator and all have 75m3 of drone space, better iirc than all of the other recon ships. Isn't it in the Arbitrator's description that it's an oddity among Amarr ship designs? ------------------- -Ceilidh (KAY-lee)
Devoras2	Posted - 2006.02.12 01:12:00 - [17] In another matter, why do I have a bad feeling that the tier 3 battleship for Amarr, will become a Khanid design.... And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
Twin blade	Posted - 2006.02.12 01:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Devoras2 In another matter, why do I have a bad feeling that the tier 3 battleship for Amarr, will become a Khanid design.... I would love that amarr with out an uber BS say a 4/4 high slot lay out.
EvilTwin I	Posted - 2006.02.12 05:23:00 - [19] well ..its just guessing Gallent Megathron ..will look even more like the real BatMobile, but this time You'll be able to see Robin from the rear window ..in his tight pyjamas
Kaathar Rielspar	Posted - 2006.02.12 06:40:00 - [20] Edited by: Kaathar Rielspar on 12/02/2006 06:40:28 Originally by: Exelsior ...Minmatar will probably get a missile ship mixed with drone carrier or something very versatile yet useless at any particular task... 'phoon anyone? edit: messed up the tags

Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.02.12 07:13:00 - [21] We know the Caldari will get a railboat (meh), but I'd like to know what the Gallente will get. They have their droneship, and the mega is used as both a blaster and rail platform isnt it? If they give the gallente a missile boat, that's going to be really lame, and probably offically mark the death of EVE's background having an effect on current ships and mechanics... Did I mention how lame it is that Gallente are now the masters of fighters instead of the Caldari? Well it's lame. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Drigan	Posted - 2006.02.12 07:52:00 - [22] I hope the railboat will have equal number of high slots and turret points. This is keeping me from going Caldari for a gunship. I don't wnat to hold 2 kinds of ammo (missiles and hybrid charges), I want to hold multiple types of hybrid ammo ONLY!
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:01:00 - [23] a couple of people seem to think that the the tier 3 battleships will look like the teir 2 ones but with better stats - this is wrong. The only reason you see a picture of a Megathron/Tempest/Raven/etc is because there is no artwork available for these ships yet. They will be completely different models when released, much like the Tempest is to the Typhoon, Raven to Scorp, etc. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Sarmaul 4tw.
Void Dragon	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:05:00 - [24] Originally by: Exelsior Edited by: Exelsior on 11/02/2006 19:46:43 Are there any ideas, hints, or any info as to what the slot arrangement on these will be? First of all i wil say that noone knows anythign about tier 3 b/ships. THis is because till recently the devs didnt know either/finding a role that fits is hard aparently. The stats you see in the archives and the pictures are just placeholder stats.
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:09:00 - [25] Edited by: KilROCK on 12/02/2006 15:16:08 t2 ammo were placeholder stats, the same before their release and oh, they release them with the same CRAP stats. But i don't mind these. 8 turret on the minmatar one. It says it has a -10% bonus, so thats ROF. That makes a 1400mm II platform a seriously high DPS ship. They want to avoid Alpha strike, so it's surely not going to be 10% damage per bonuses. As for the Gallente, it looks like it has a 10% bonus, and im guessing it's 10% damage to large hybrid turret. (won't be about drones - domi is there to stay - But i think it's more of a dedicated blaster platform by the looks of it) That thing has PG and CPU to fit a full rack of neutrons II, and if used as a rail platform does 38% more DPS than a megathron. So yea. Nice gallente and minmatar, both get 8 turret ships.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:41:00 - [26] If you want to speculate some more, here are their ship bonii Amarr Tier 3 -5 for shipBonusAB -5 for shipBonusAB2 5% reduction to cap use, 5% reduction to rate of fire? Caldari Tier 3 10 for shipBonusCB 5 for shipBonus2CB 10% optimal range, 5% damage? Gallente Tier 3 10 for shipBonusGB 10% damage? Minmatar Tier 3 -10 for shipBonusMB -10% reduction to rate of fire? Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Sarmaul 4tw.
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:53:00 - [27] Edited by: KilROCK on 12/02/2006 15:55:26 If the caldari one is 10% range and 5% damage, Railthron in fleet will become kinda useless. Why fly a Thron for 5% more tracking when you can have insane range.. where tracking doesn't matter alot. As for amarr. I think it would be a giant slap in the face to have their racial -10% cap usage for energy turret reduced to a -5%. Then it would be a Armageddon with a bit more tanking ability, and it wouldn't really hold it's cap at all with t2 megapulse and conflagration with only -25%
Pesadel0	Posted - 2006.02.12 15:59:00 - [28] Originally by: Sarmaul If you want to speculate some more, here are their ship bonii Amarr Tier 3 -5 for shipBonusAB -5 for shipBonusAB2 5% reduction to cap use, 5% reduction to rate of fire? Caldari Tier 3 10 for shipBonusCB 5 for shipBonus2CB 10% optimal range, 5% damage? Gallente Tier 3 10 for shipBonusGB 10% damage? Minmatar Tier 3 -10 for shipBonusMB -10% reduction to rate of fire? LOL at the minmatar bonus
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:04:00 - [29] Edited by: KilROCK on 12/02/2006 16:05:23 Lol at minmatar bonus? What are you on, that bonus is awesome. Gives me over 600DPS with 8 1400mm II. So it doesn't make the tempest useless in fleet battles, since it's still better for alpha strikes. Makes one HELL of an autocannons platform since you'll push out crazy ammount of damage per second. It has powergrid to fit MWD, Cap injector, Dual Large rep. Or a crazy shield tank a La Raven. (8x 800mm II even tho i love dual 650mm II youll have SO much powergrid free even with a armor tank ) It also has more dronebay than the tempest. Which is always good.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.02.12 16:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: Sarmaul If you want to speculate some more, here are their ship bonii Amarr Tier 3 -5 for shipBonusAB -5 for shipBonusAB2 5% reduction to cap use, 5% reduction to rate of fire? Caldari Tier 3 10 for shipBonusCB 5 for shipBonus2CB 10% optimal range, 5% damage? Gallente Tier 3 10 for shipBonusGB 10% damage? Minmatar Tier 3 -10 for shipBonusMB -10% reduction to rate of fire? LOL at the minmatar bonus you find 8 1400mm howtizer IIs with 50% reduction to rate of fire funny? Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Sarmaul 4tw.



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