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Quentin Marshall
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Posted - 2013.11.07 05:33:00 -
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I used to be in FW. I'm really curious to know who the good FCs were in each of the 4 factions. I realize some factions have more FCs than others when it comes to leading collaborative fleets. Or is there even such a thing as "good militia fcs"?  |

Chessur
Strontless Mistakes Fatal Ascension
200
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Posted - 2013.11.07 05:36:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:I used to be in FW. I'm really curious to know who the good FCs were in each of the 4 factions. I realize some factions have more FCs than others when it comes to leading collaborative fleets. Or is there even such a thing as "good militia fcs"? 
There is not a thing, as good militia FC"s. MOst people in FW are trash, save for a few pilots- that to my knowledge don't usually fly within the greater FW community.
Best FC's would be found in:
Turn Left Exodus The Hatchery R&K PL |

Quentin Marshall
12
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Posted - 2013.11.07 05:38:00 -
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Perhaps part of the issue is that the decent FCs can't be great because they fly with trash pilots who fly trash ships? So they are always stuck in just semi-decent or eventually retire from leading fleets due to the trash. Just putting it out there |

Chessur
Strontless Mistakes Fatal Ascension
201
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Posted - 2013.11.07 05:49:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:Perhaps part of the issue is that the decent FCs can't be great because they fly with trash pilots who fly trash ships? So they are always stuck in just semi-decent or eventually retire from leading fleets due to the trash. Just putting it out there
A good FC should be able to properly train the pilots that are flying with them. A good FC should also be able to use the best tactics, along with good fleet coherency to make things happen. If your FC can't do that, they should not be an FC because they are bad. |

Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
653
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:01:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:Perhaps part of the issue is that the decent FCs can't be great because they fly with trash pilots who fly trash ships? So they are always stuck in just semi-decent or eventually retire from leading fleets due to the trash. Just putting it out there
The issue is that pilots in FW only experience a small range of tactics and don't often push themselves in regards to the kinds of fights they're willing to take or tactics they use. Highsec, lowsec, nullsec, and wormholes all utilize different combinations of tactics and skillsets. There are a handful of constants among all areas of the game that are important for an FC, but few FCs in the game period view the game from the perspective necessary to possess them.
The fact is, that a good FC can make the most out of any pilot, through training, clear communication, and understanding the strengths and limitations of their pilots and fleet. At the end of the day though, you're only as good as the people you fight and the fights you take. |

Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
374
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:29:00 -
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There are FCs in faction warfare? |

Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
653
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:46:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:There are FCs in faction warfare?
:FCs: |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
675
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:47:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:Perhaps part of the issue is that the decent FCs can't be great because they fly with trash pilots who fly trash ships? So they are always stuck in just semi-decent or eventually retire from leading fleets due to the trash. Just putting it out there
Ignore Chicken Chessur. He comes to our area in an anti-frigate faction cruiser then complains and rages like a child when a couple of frigates pop his precious ship.
For example;
n++[ 2013.08.03 21:38:32 ] Chessur > o/ ****** -edit(homophobic slur) n++[ 2013.08.03 21:38:45 ] Chessur > suck a **** -edit(phallic reference) n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:01 ] Crosi Wesdo > gf n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:06 ] Chessur > don't you ever n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:07 ] Chessur > gf me n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:07 ] Crosi Wesdo > haha n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:08 ] Chessur > trash n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:09 ] Crosi Wesdo > nice try n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:17 ] Crosi Wesdo > you seem very upset n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:23 ] Crosi Wesdo > would you like to talk about it? n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:33 ] Tzenick > omg this again? n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:33 ] Chessur > no need n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:39 ] Chessur > you can't do **** to me n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:47 ] Chessur > unless you can click orbit
The main problem with forums is that anyone can post here. This leads to extremely bad input. |

Sai Weisman
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
1
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:30:00 -
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I've heard that when Fwedditors sleep, they hear Almity's voice in their dreams. Is this true? |

Eliana LaFey
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.07 08:23:00 -
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GalMil definitely has some decent FCs, although I prefer some over others. Some people just don't have the personality to FC, even if they have the skillset. |
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ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
147
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Posted - 2013.11.07 08:33:00 -
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Khan is pretty decent, he's calmil
That name though |

Stalking Mantis
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
371
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Posted - 2013.11.07 08:39:00 -
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Sai Weisman wrote:I've heard that when Fwedditors sleep, they hear Almity's voice in their dreams. Is this true?
Almity is a great FC. I just worry he will burn himself out that's all. Although I rarely seen him do anything but FC. i.e. no solo runs/no missioning no other activities aside from FC'ing.
He also runs great doctrine fleets with IWhip bros. Instead of the average kitchen sink gangs you see in militia.
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Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
653
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:35:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Sai Weisman wrote:I've heard that when Fwedditors sleep, they hear Almity's voice in their dreams. Is this true? Almity is a great FC. I just worry he will burn himself out that's all. Although I rarely seen him do anything but FC. i.e. no solo runs/no missioning no other activities aside from FC'ing. He also runs great doctrine fleets with IWhip bros. Instead of the average kitchen sink gangs you see in militia.
Almity flies with fweddit so that by default makes him terrible. Only good FCs on Amarr/Caldari side are predator elite. Minmatar have too many good FCs to mention. |

Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
3636
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Posted - 2013.11.07 11:16:00 -
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Chessur wrote:Quentin Marshall wrote:I used to be in FW. I'm really curious to know who the good FCs were in each of the 4 factions. I realize some factions have more FCs than others when it comes to leading collaborative fleets. Or is there even such a thing as "good militia fcs"?  There is not a thing, as good militia FC"s. MOst people in FW are trash, save for a few pilots- that to my knowledge don't usually fly within the greater FW community. Best FC's would be found in: Turn Left Exodus The Hatchery R&K PL
ujellybro
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
358
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Posted - 2013.11.07 11:50:00 -
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These are the FCs - (AKA people you should primary):
Gallente
Recnarion Fleetwarpsujarento Crosi wesdo Tekitha Itsnotmedick Commander Razama
Hope that helps - cheers.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1668
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:22:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:These are the FCs - (AKA people you should primary):
Gallente
Recnarion Fleetwarpsujarento Crosi wesdo Tekitha Itsnotmedick Commander Razama
Hope that helps - cheers.
Thanks for providing free intel Vyktor. *sigh* |

Damay Aprionati
Bloody Vermin
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:30:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Quentin Marshall wrote:Perhaps part of the issue is that the decent FCs can't be great because they fly with trash pilots who fly trash ships? So they are always stuck in just semi-decent or eventually retire from leading fleets due to the trash. Just putting it out there Ignore Chicken Chessur. He comes to our area in an anti-frigate faction cruiser then complains and rages like a child when a couple of frigates pop his precious ship. For example; n++[ 2013.08.03 21:38:32 ] Chessur > o/ ****** -edit(homophobic slur) n++[ 2013.08.03 21:38:45 ] Chessur > suck a **** -edit(phallic reference) n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:01 ] Crosi Wesdo > gf n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:06 ] Chessur > don't you ever n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:07 ] Chessur > gf me n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:07 ] Crosi Wesdo > haha n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:08 ] Chessur > trash n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:09 ] Crosi Wesdo > nice try n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:17 ] Crosi Wesdo > you seem very upset n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:23 ] Crosi Wesdo > would you like to talk about it? n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:33 ] Tzenick > omg this again? n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:33 ] Chessur > no need n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:39 ] Chessur > you can't do **** to me n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:47 ] Chessur > unless you can click orbit The main problem with forums is that anyone can post here. This leads to extremely bad input.
+1 Thumbs upping this wasn't enough.
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Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
482
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:27:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:
n++[ 2013.08.03 21:38:32 ] Chessur > o/ ****** -edit(homophobic slur) n++[ 2013.08.03 21:38:45 ] Chessur > suck a **** -edit(phallic reference) n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:01 ] Crosi Wesdo > gf n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:06 ] Chessur > don't you ever n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:07 ] Chessur > gf me n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:07 ] Crosi Wesdo > haha n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:08 ] Chessur > trash n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:09 ] Crosi Wesdo > nice try n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:17 ] Crosi Wesdo > you seem very upset n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:23 ] Crosi Wesdo > would you like to talk about it? n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:33 ] Tzenick > omg this again? n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:33 ] Chessur > no need n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:39 ] Chessur > you can't do **** to me n++[ 2013.08.03 21:39:47 ] Chessur > unless you can click orbit
The main problem with forums is that anyone can post here. This leads to extremely bad input.
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Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
137
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:09:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:These are the FCs - (AKA people you should primary):
Gallente
Recnarion Fleetwarpsujarento Crosi wesdo Tekitha Itsnotmedick Commander Razama
Hope that helps - cheers.
Yes, primary Recnarion, we'll be a beaten, aimless fleet instantly. |

Almity
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
85
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:42:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Sai Weisman wrote:I've heard that when Fwedditors sleep, they hear Almity's voice in their dreams. Is this true? Almity is a great FC. I just worry he will burn himself out that's all. Although I rarely seen him do anything but FC. i.e. no solo runs/no missioning no other activities aside from FC'ing. He also runs great doctrine fleets with IWhip bros. Instead of the average kitchen sink gangs you see in militia. Almity flies with fweddit so that by default makes him terrible. Only good FCs on Amarr/Caldari side are predator elite. Minmatar have too many good FCs to mention.
I play my flute and they dance and they follow. I make cooing sounds into my mic at the end of the night to send them off to sleep. Rina and I duet Endless Love to our logi pilots. Confirmation that I am terrible is somewhere in this post. |
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Dread Operative
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
195
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:45:00 -
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Post should be called, "Who to primary?" |

Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
167
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:00:00 -
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I AM SPARTACUS! |

Chessur
Strontless Mistakes Fatal Ascension
201
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:00:00 -
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Confirming that Hazing people with a skirmish + Info linked malus, HG snaked and clicking orbit- while recalling warrior II drones from being killed for 30+ min is good PvP. I will never GF trash like that. In fact if I remember right cro- you have killed me a grand total of 1 time.
THe second time, I killed one of your fellow fail cats- Not sure how he was killed. I was damped the entire time shooting FoF at his ass. But i guess clicking warp out is not the same as orbit, so it must have been difficult.
And the third time, a condor that was slower than you- somehow made you drop your 27K Orbit around me. Have you never learned how to manually pilot? And if i remember right you had to run in low structure, because your fail throax friend was just too slow.
I might have a shred of respect for you or someone in your corp, if you had a shred of piloting skill- but it is pretty clear that you lean very heavily on using superior links, ECM, and numbers to kill solo pilots. You are only playing to troll / collect tears / haze people. And while you can do that, don't ever expect a GF from me.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
686
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:29:00 -
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Chessur wrote:Confirming that Hazing people with a skirmish + Info linked malus, HG snaked and clicking orbit- while recalling warrior II drones from being killed for 30+ min is good PvP. I will never GF trash like that. In fact if I remember right cro- you have killed me a grand total of 1 time.
THe second time, I killed one of your fellow fail cats- Not sure how he was killed. I was damped the entire time shooting FoF at his ass. But i guess clicking warp out is not the same as orbit, so it must have been difficult.
And the third time, a condor that was slower than you- somehow made you drop your 27K Orbit around me. Have you never learned how to manually pilot? And if i remember right you had to run in low structure, because your fail throax friend was just too slow.
I might have a shred of respect for you or someone in your corp, if you had a shred of piloting skill- but it is pretty clear that you lean very heavily on using superior links, ECM, and numbers to kill solo pilots. You are only playing to troll / collect tears / haze people. And while you can do that, don't ever expect a GF from me.
I only remember tears. Thanks for the reminder. |

ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
147
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:30:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:These are the FCs - (AKA people you should primary):
Gallente
Recnarion Fleetwarpsujarento Crosi wesdo Tekitha Itsnotmedick Commander Razama
Hope that helps - cheers.
Ramaza? That toxic kid? WOLOLO guess I know who's going to be primaried
I really hope you made that list up, I wouldn't share intel like that |

xECH0
Tempest Legion Best Korea Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:49:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:
The main problem with forums is that anyone can post here. This leads to extremely bad input.
Too much free speech. |

Rekkr Nordgard
The Ardency of Faith Filthy Bastards
72
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Posted - 2013.11.07 17:06:00 -
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Ahhhhh, look at the butthurt "nothing outside nullsec matters" l33t PvPer, how cute.
ZheoTheThird wrote:I really hope you made that list up, I wouldn't share intel like that
Well in his defense, if you don't already know who the major FCs for the other side are, then you're not doing your job and having the list just handed to you isn't likely to matter. |

Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
374
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Posted - 2013.11.07 17:19:00 -
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Quote:Confirming that Hazing people with a skirmish + Info linked malus, HG snaked and clicking orbit- while recalling warrior II drones from being killed for 30+ min is good PvP.
The ironimeter just broke. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3086
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Posted - 2013.11.07 18:10:00 -
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Bahamut isn't a good FC. But he is a brave one.
7o |

Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
195
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Posted - 2013.11.07 18:13:00 -
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hotpocket is always primary in any fight, so he must be FC |
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