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Ira Kin Mayaki
Perpetual Podding
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Posted - 2013.11.07 17:25:00 -
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What skills will be required for Bastion module to be fitted on a marauder after Rubicon expansion? |

Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
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Posted - 2013.11.07 17:29:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote: Skill requirements: High Energy Physics 4 and Energy Grid Upgrades 5
Marauder threadnaught is here. |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2013.11.07 18:47:00 -
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They say in the thread that the skills are subject to change, but at this point it looks like they wont change. |

Aldahen
Frozen Dawn Academy Arctic Light
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Posted - 2013.11.17 08:01:00 -
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Seems like they changed  http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-rubicon
I agree that AWU 5 is much more beneficial skill for a combat pilot and is not just a time sink. I feel sad for all those who anticipated and trained High Energy Physics 4 for nothing (including myself). |

marVLs
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Posted - 2013.11.17 11:37:00 -
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yeah week before releasing they change skill req... ffs |

Mike Metcalf
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 11:56:00 -
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At least the new requirements are pretty easy.
Quote:Skill requirements: Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 and Energy Grid Upgrades 5 Considering that they are both required for Marauders anyway. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:54:00 -
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marVLs wrote:yeah week before releasing they change skill req... ffs
I do love Eve but CCP really needs to get it together. Changing this a week before the patch is just ridiculous.  |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.17 18:26:00 -
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Not to sound like a **** (still having my morning coffee)... but suck it up. If you don't have those skills right now then you'll only be, at worst, delayed in having fun with bastion mode. It's not going anywhere. So don't worry.
As for the "principle" of the matter...
Customer? Meet private company. Private company doesn't need to tell you anything ahead of time unless there are rules/laws that says it has to. Letting you know what the future holds even 12 hours beforehand is them being NICE. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.17 18:50:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Not to sound like a **** (still having my morning coffee)... but suck it up. If you don't have those skills right now then you'll only be, at worst, delayed in having fun with bastion mode. It's not going anywhere. So don't worry.
As for the "principle" of the matter...
Customer? Meet private company. Private company doesn't need to tell you anything ahead of time unless there are rules/laws that says it has to. Letting you know what the future holds even 12 hours beforehand is them being NICE.
If you don't have those skills you're not flying a marauder since they are prerequisites.
Yes a private company doesn't have to do anything. CCP can shut down the Eve servers tomorrow and we would all be out of luck. On the other hand CCP wants to make money so they won't. The same goes for having satisfied customers. I got it CCP is going to upset some with patch changes but saying one thing but at the last minute doing something different is going to make everyone unhappy. |

Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.17 18:55:00 -
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So you only need Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 and Energy Grid Upgrades 5 trained up to use Bastion, on sisi they had a new skill, is it gone now? |
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Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.17 18:56:00 -
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sorry posted twice, my bad |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:23:00 -
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IIshira wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Not to sound like a **** (still having my morning coffee)... but suck it up. If you don't have those skills right now then you'll only be, at worst, delayed in having fun with bastion mode. It's not going anywhere. So don't worry.
As for the "principle" of the matter...
Customer? Meet private company. Private company doesn't need to tell you anything ahead of time unless there are rules/laws that says it has to. Letting you know what the future holds even 12 hours beforehand is them being NICE. If you don't have those skills you're not flying a marauder since they are prerequisites. Yes a private company doesn't have to do anything. CCP can shut down the Eve servers tomorrow and we would all be out of luck. On the other hand CCP wants to make money so they won't. The same goes for having satisfied customers. I got it CCP is going to upset some with patch changes but saying one thing but at the last minute doing something different is going to make everyone unhappy. You're making it out to be black and white.
Yes... they want to make money... but that in no way requires them to bend over backwards for every little detail (which is what this basically is).
I worked to service industry for a long time... and there comes a point where people become so pedantic and petty about particular details (despite the best efforts of a business) that they simply have to be told to "deal with it" or leave.
I personally think that people have become too used to the "bend-over-backwards-and-give-me-perfect-service-or-I-take-my-business-elsewhere" attitude has gotten out of hand in this day and age. Businesses are worked by people too. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

Valixithor
The Random Tangent
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:13:00 -
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It's hardly last minute.
They say in the thread "subject to change".
Also, everything on test server falls under this quote
Quote:Please keep in mind that most new features on the server are still in development and not set in stone. They will most likely be changed and tweaked further |

Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:23:00 -
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Can anyone answer my question please. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:52:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote: I worked to service industry for a long time... and there comes a point where people become so pedantic and petty about particular details (despite the best efforts of a business) that they simply have to be told to "deal with it" or leave.
You would make an awesome fast food restaurant manager. I can hear you now "Oh I'll give you extra mayo on your burger!"... LOL |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:56:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:So you only need Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 and Energy Grid Upgrades 5 trained up to use Bastion, on sisi they had a new skill, is it gone now?
I'm not aware of any new skill. I knew you had to have High Energy Physics 4 but that's not a new skill. Now it appears no skill is required for the module since if you have the skill to get in the ship you have the skill for the module. |

Kosetzu
S1lver Flame
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Posted - 2013.11.17 21:16:00 -
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Once it hits the patch notes it will pretty much stay that way unless something drastic changes.
Still feel like having the High Energy Physics 4 requirement was more useful... actually meant you had to be able to fly Marauders and a bit extra to utilize that part of them. Like Triage and Siege modules both require their own skill past the ship requirement. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.17 23:24:00 -
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IIshira wrote:ShahFluffers wrote: I worked to service industry for a long time... and there comes a point where people become so pedantic and petty about particular details (despite the best efforts of a business) that they simply have to be told to "deal with it" or leave.
You would make an awesome fast food restaurant manager. I can hear you now "Oh I'll give you extra mayo on your burger!"... LOL Actually I owned a restaurant for a few years. Was quite good at it. Sold it off because I wanted to have an actual social life.
edit: and yes Thaddeus Eggeras... there is no new skill needed for Bastion. Just the two you mentioned. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

Boci
Order of the Black Dagger
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Posted - 2013.11.17 23:47:00 -
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Aww, my alt did high energy physics for nada :( |
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