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Edam Neadenil
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:56:00 -
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It is worth noting that quite a few people in my fleet logged once the extent of the stuff up became obvious and went and fetched their null sec toons. (The idea that the game consists of two totally distinct groups, cool PvPers versus useless carebears is silly as many people have alts in both high and null)
The main concerns I have come across have nothing to do with dieing as most people did not get close enough to the action to actually die.
Major issues:
1. the initial change of location was ONLY anounced on twitter and many people including FCs thought this was more likely a twitter hack as nothing was said in game till much later.
2. Placing the original "fake" stage points next to major hubs meant the few rare in game CCP announcements were buried amongst spam as the hub spammers had moved over from Amarr and Dodi.
3. The very late confirmation of the event being predominantly PvP meant many people were stuck with ratting/incursion fits and could not leave their original "fake" staging system to swap to something more suitable without being locked out
4. Sending large fleets 30 jumps meant TIDI followed the fleets. For most of us it was impossible to cover the distance before the event got declared as over. Dieing was not an issue very few people got close enough to have the chance to die.
5. The long travel left FCs with a choice of either keeping fleet together and exasperating the TIDI or letting everyone travel in own time breaking up the fleet and making it hard to stay organised,
Overall though the main issue for my group had nothing to do with dieing in null ... it was the fact it was almost impossible to get there in the first place. (As stated earlier quite a few logged out and grabbed their goon or other null characters)
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Edam Neadenil
Bax Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.09 16:36:00 -
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Basic summary of this thread:
Post One: No-one cares about dieing - but this event sux big time as after two hours of TIDI the event finished before we even got into null.
Reply to Post One: haha we are awesome stop complaining about dieing. |
Edam Neadenil
Bax Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.09 23:39:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Except most people didn't take part in the lore.
They could have not turned up at all and it would have been exactly the same event.
Because most people only turned up after CCP declared the event over because CCP stuffed up big time. To be honest, if you even burned towards the destination trying to avoid the pirates and stop the Serpentis you were there.
No ... quite a few people in my fleet logged out and went and got their null alts because they realised the whole exercise was idiotic and they would never get there in time with the highsec fleets.
I personally logged out and went to work as I realised the thing was going to be a waste of one of my few available days off.
I gathered later the fleet never made it to the event so my decision was a good one. |
Edam Neadenil
Bax Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.11 02:25:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
In terms of the location of the event and the Curse one being next to the CFC staging systems, this is incompetence, however there is a perceived slant by CCP to the 0.0 cartels, which makes it look and feel like a setup, perhaps CCP should think about explaining the decision around the location of the Curse event, knowing that the CFC was deployed there. Even with the CCP slant towards 0.0 entities, I cannot believe or accept that this was a setup by CCP, it makes no sense whatsoever to do that to what is a major part of their customer base.
To be perfectly honest if there was any ploy involved on CCPs part it was almost certainly an attempt to artificially generate one of those "largest space battle in history" headlines that have previously been good for subs.
However they do also seem to have completely forgotten they banned caps and supercaps from hisec meaning there is not and never realistic can be a totally highsec player alliance that is willing or able to take on null alliances. Hence highsec involvement in null generally takes the form of roams, mining barge ganking and ninja looting in null systems - not large fleet battles. Highsec experience of fleet battles is mainly FW and incursions which are quite a different type of thing ... no sane person would bring an incursion fleet to a nullsec PvP event. |
Edam Neadenil
Bax Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:38:00 -
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Octoven wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Octoven wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:[ -snipped-
I may like to add that I have been financially supporting CCP for 10 years through my subscription (never PLEX'd) which has now been cancelled on all accounts. Whether I resubscribe or not is based on their response in the next few days as I believe I have been fair and justified in waiting that long for an answer to my complaints, issues and concerns regarding CCPs conduct, values and competence in this regard. To be more accurate, your subscription is costing more using PLEX...only you aren't paying cash for it, someone else is. That really makes no sense I'm afraid as I read it : you think I PLEX...and as stated I've never PLEX'd. Sorry, forgot to put the IF statement in there. Had you PLEXed you would infact be paying more lol except you pass the cost to someone else, eitherway the account is paid for. However, since you never PLEXed disregard I guess.
I think the significant point if you PLEX is you are not the sucker paying for a minimally managed poorly run game.
Rage quitting is silly ... however up to this point I have been paying for my main and plexing alts as i like the idea of "doing the right thing" and contributing financially to the game.
From this point on I will only plex and if limited time to play EVE eventually means my account goes inactive (which is likely for me when Pathfinder Online kicks off next year) I will take it as time to fade away and leave EVE to the goons. |
Edam Neadenil
Bax Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:13:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
What is lost in the entire debate is that the carebears are not as risk averse as the nullsec propaganda implies. CCP may have discovered something.
Maybe someday there will be more, and the players will be better experienced. Will you like this or hate it? Will you say one thing then another? If people are going to be called ******** for playing a game and losing, their solution will be not to play with you, or not to play the game on your terms. That means you get to sit at a gate and watch the space tumbleweeds roll by.
(then you'll be here in the forums complaining about carebears never leaving highsec)
Having spent a lot of time in losec with alts lately .... my impression is that aside from those people who actually live in losec or wormholes ... most of the rest are from hisec rather than null.
Nor do you get a lot of null people in non-blue null space, whereas I know quite a few highsec people that like to go gank miners and ninja loot all over null. That find it hilarious as apparently the average null sec player cannot small gang or solo PvP. Some are very good at it, but most are not. (nor am I for that matter, the extent of my PvP last few days was escaping a legion camping a losec gate, but that is beside the point I make no claims to be a leet PvPer).
Ironically, one thing I have noticed is that highsec dwellers tend to be individual who do not like the idea of being lemmings in some huge alliance run by a couple of individuals with way too much time on their hands. Null sounds too much like corporate town where you kotow to the big bosses at all times. Ironically null is the total opposite of what the historical "privateer" pirate was about.
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