Is reading really such a demanding skill that Pyre has entirely given up on mastering it? If not, the alternative is willfully misinterpreting things in order to deflect the shame of poor behavior. Either one is rather sad to see.

Is reading really such a demanding skill that Pyre has entirely given up on mastering it? If not, the alternative is willfully misinterpreting things in order to deflect the shame of poor behavior..

You are reinforcing my point rather well, both of you. Disappointing to say the least. I have accepted my shame and am better for it. I didn't think such things were too much to expect from such... loquacious citizens.

Question the motives of CONCORD and the governments, but damn it, for the love of all that might still be good in this cluster, stop with the petty "ah, you guys were sheeple to be led to the slaughter" comments and grab a check of your fragile little egos and bow your head to those true soldiers who gave their lives in what they believed was an action to support their homeland.

Sorry, I'm too Deteis not to savour the vicarious pleasure of witnessing some Social Darwinism in action.

And I would have expected more respect towards those that felt the desire to support the State's Navy from those associated with a Patriotic faction within the State.

Suuolo, I thought you knew me better than that. I have heaped no scorn on those who gave their lives following the orders of their commanders. My scorn was reserved strictly for their immortal officers, who didn't have to share that sacrifice.

Now, I know I'm equally immune from that greatest of consequences, but I have tried to ensure that the loss of my crews has had meaning, at least.

Desiderya, you're simply trolling at this point.

Really, that's the way you want to deal with this? I suggest putting your fingers into your ears and going 'nanananana'.



I can try it in softer words, for the sake of the IGS community. Maybe you should re-enlist on some of the courses from the war colleges or similar private experts to rehash the very basics of cadet school, in order to be better prepared and able to make judgements based on available data both before and during an operation to minimize the risk of overcommiting or taking risks that do not reflect the possible reward. Furthermore some studies on the importance of effective communication and organisation during any kind of deployment should be investigated, optionally with some studies of battles that were lost despite having, on paper, a far superior force.

The basics, ladies and gentlemen. So maybe next time you will not have to listen to my wisdom - you might even begin to appreciate it after a while, when the damaged pride stops hurting.

Unlike the ones like Sami Okuuda ? That is good to know, I am pretty sure that the Caldari Navy appreciates.



Meaning? In that proxy war ?

Is reading really such a demanding skill that Pyre has entirely given up on mastering it? If not, the alternative is willfully misinterpreting things in order to deflect the shame of poor behavior. Either one is rather sad to see.

If you think anything else, then to the Winds with you. I am done with you. I should have known better.

You may consider that mutual.

You may consider that official.

As stated already, "Noted and reciprocated."

Likewise.

Answering a call or not, is what makes difference between a soldier and a mercenary.

Mercenary would think, will he die or not. Mercenary will make sure, his money will be safe before partaking in risk operations and will turn around, when it will become hairy.

Professional soldier, instead, will jump into the fire, will warp to suicide trap, if will be ordered. Because, it is our duty, and it is our profession to die for others to live. We think how to survive after or during the execution of the orders, while coward mercenaries consider surviving by not executing the order at all.

This is what makes difference of Caldari and Gallente: we are ready to sacrifice our lives, we live for others, for our fleets, but not ourselves to succeed, while Gallenteans think only how to save their precious ships, how to save money or their lives.

Even if it looks like it is a suicide, our commanders have a greater plan. We could actually survive there. Or we won't, but our sacrifice will allow greater fleets, more important ships and peoples to pass and finish the task.

Unfortunately, among capsuleers there are not enough professional soldiers, but too many egoistical mercenaries.

Because of them, this battle was lost.

Shame on you, capsuleers.

You see, Kim-haani, there is a difference between sacrificing one's self for a cause and being stood in front of a wall and shot by a firing squad. What happened during this Call-To-Arms is a massive dropping of the ball. Some basic fleet skills were sorely lacking at a Command Level and a terrible amount of common sense lacking from individual pilots.

What is happening in this thread is a mix up between 'You, pilots, are fools to jump into a well organised chokepoint without proper intel, fleet readiness or organisation of any sort' and 'You're a bad person for even attempting to volunteer yourself for service to CONCORD and/or respective Navies.'

We are not condemning people for joining the Call-To-Arms. We are condemning them following it through and losing lives despite knowing that the task force is scattered across twenty-odd jumps and other issues in the structure and integrity of the various fleets in the task force.