This introduces a new rule alongside only fly what you can afford to lose: "Only kill what you can afford to pay for".

For lolz...

Imagine a game mechanism that uses KMs against jihaddists.

Their whole existence is driven by the pursuit of good fights and sweet kills of miners or smaller gangs.

What would the response of all these pvpers be, if they had to pay the isk value of destroyed ships, modules, cargo and pods in addition to paying for their concord losses to concord for all their infractions?

Here's the scenario:

Goonswarm has 4 pilots in local in some hi-sec ice system and without wardeccing all the industrial corporations mining ice. They systematically gank mackinaw after mackinaw with the odd orca in between.

Each time the API registers their kill for their killboard, the total value of the loss becomes payable either as a personal or corporate fine. This bill is payable to Concord as an isk sink. So the bill for the orca gank goes to the corp wallet, or gets passed down to the gankers.

I'm sure you could even look at adding a modifier to the total value of a ganked ship depending on the security rating of the system the gank happened in.

I.e. a 1.0 system will have a modifier of +25% to the value of a ship.
a 0.5 system would have a modifier of +5% to the value of the ship.

So an orca gank in 1.0 space would cost the ganking corp an odd 505 million isk for just the hull.
The same gank in 0.5 space would cost the ganking corp an odd 425 mil isk for just the hull.

This modifier would be applicable for the hull, modules, cargo and any implants lost during the gank.

If the fine is issued on a corp level, the corp will be closed down if it cannot pay the fine. To prevent abuse, any corps that refuse to pay or disband prior to payin g these fines will have all members flagged. Upon creating or joining a new corp, these gankers will still be issued with the fines.

Individual players who belong to npc corps will be issued with personal fines that will automatically deduct the isk from their personal wallets (resulting in negative balances if they dont have the isk).

This introduces a new rule alongside only fly what you can afford to lose: "Only kill what you can afford to pay for"

I'm sure this would discourage corps and alliances from ganking outside of wardecs. Won't prevent corps and alliances from doing this, but it sure would hurt them in the process.

While I have little love for the goons or their ilk (I love that word, btw) I'm gonna say no to your proposal.

A) You started off with For lulz. So in reality, you're not better than the Jihadists you're apparently so against.

B) The game needs PvP - it is, quite literally, the fuel of the engine that is the Eve economy. Your proposal damages that in two ways.

First, it disincentivises PvP. A certaintype of PvP, yes, but the effect is still there. Fewer people will pursue the activity, thus reducing the demand for new ships, modules, etc.

Second, those people who would have the most need of the items on the market (people who need to replace the ships they just lost) would have less ISK to do so with, depressing demand even further.

5% = 0.5 system - meaning high valued ganking is still quite valuable, and still holds to the "if you can fly it, you can lose it".
10% = 0.6 system
15% = 0.7 system
20% = 0.8 system
25% = 0.9 system
30% = 1.0 system

These fines will mean absolutely nothing. These guys would make sub-alts to their accounts or PLEX for Buddy Invite accounts (essentially a free 51 day trial alongside ur now paid one month).

After these are made they can be trained for a few hours (if at all). All ISK can then be removed from corp wallet (which I doubt they would even be in a corp) and personal wallets (and put into their mains accounts).

All the while ganking continues and concord and the corps get no isk since CCP would not hand out additional ISK that wasnt paid out by someone else after insurance was already paid.

They beat CCP's Concord System. They should be allowed to do so. Just get smarter and invest more into your ice mining opperations.

Then allow flagging the main account. Those buddy invites are connected to somebodies account and characters to get free time from those activated alt accounts. Kill the account/characters before activation and the bill goes to the brosef who invited you to play Eve.

Or level it against the inviter's corp wallet.

If they want to setup new accounts just to do this, by all means. They can happily pay more rl moniez towards Eve.

you're pretty dumb if you think high-sec was ever intended as a no-pvp or "consensual only" area m8

I'm sure this would discourage corps and alliances from ganking outside of wardecs.

This won't "remove" hi-sec ganking, but it'll de-incentivize it.

I lolled.

Your pretty dumb if you think that's what I'm proposing.

Why do all the dumbest posts always seem to come from Goons?

Why do all the dumbest posts always seem to come from Goons?

Why do all the dumbest posts always seem to come from Goons?

What does jihad have to do with suicidegankers in an internet space game?