1. Just because people are logging in doesn't mean they are spending any money on a F2P game.

2. The numbers you are showing show an all time low.

3. In order to recoup $12,000,000 in marketing, 240,000 players would have to spend $50 or more. If only 5,000 players at a max compared to EVE's 40,000 then do they have the numbers to support it? 5,000 players doesn't seem like 200,000 in Equivalent terms of EVE. If they had 20,000 concurrent players that would be the same ratio of having 200,000 players.

That is if every single player spends $50 on a F2P game which they don't.

If that had been the attitude in EVE's first few months we'd not be having this discussion since the game would not even be here. They were losing money hand over fist in the early days. Now they are not.

CCP are visionary in the MMO business and don't buckle to the status quo.

I would be disappointed if they buried DUST in the first year. It may well end up that DUST revenue is what carries EVE forward in the future.

Players that are not complete morons should be encouraging CCP to diversify since they understand the advantages of multiple income streams.

Mr Epeen

So no. Dust is not successful as EVE nor will it be able to support CCP if EVE fails.

Nor will it ever be. Next generation consoles will bury it.

[Edit: Which is why it should have been a PC exclusive in the first place.

I'll make one concession... If CCP in their infinite wisdom decides to port Dust to PC, then it has a chance of being at least as successful as Planetside 2.

Deciding to release the game on a console in the end of its product cycle was a bad decision. The number of people who play a PS3 will only go down from here on out. Its numbers will never increase simply because people will stop playing their PS3 because they have a brand new PS4 or Xbox One.

Still waiiting on a reply to my OP.

But yeah, Dust is great isn't it?

Just imagaine if all our eve sub money was put back into eve development and not dust and vampires..........

If only CCP were Carlsberg

"How better might todays eve have been if CCP had not over streched."

Well if that is the question you were asking.... I guess $12 million would have gone a lot towards making WiS more than it is now.

If not that, budget for new ships.

i can only but ask how eve might have been better today if CCP had not chanelled so much into speculative projects.

It stopped being GÇ£subscriber cashGÇ¥ the moment the transaction went through.

CCP can and should do whatever they want with their money, and trying to expand the product catalogue is pretty much a necessity. Without separate products such as Dust or WOD, there would be no additional funding, so in terms of money flow, little would change for EVE.

I can still call you out out on not answering my OP.

It stopped being GÇ£subscriber cashGÇ¥ the moment the transaction went through.

CCP can and should do whatever they want with their money, and trying to expand the product catalogue is pretty much a necessity. Without separate products such as Dust or WOD, there would be no additional funding, so in terms of money flow, little would change for EVE.

Not really no, since I answered your OP: your premise is fundamentally flawed.

It stopped being GÇ£subscriber cashGÇ¥ the moment the transaction went through.

CCP can and should do whatever they want with their money, and trying to expand the product catalogue is pretty much a necessity. Without separate products such as Dust or WOD, there would be no additional funding, so in terms of money flow, little would change for EVE.

Not really no, since I answered your OP: your premise is fundamentally flawed.

As is everything YOU didn't come up with, Tippa, we all know that...

Still, the OP has a point. CCP diverted their attention (and thus their money) on other projects, while their prime source of income still lies "unfinished"... yes, I know a MMO is never truely finished. Further, that lack of focus hindered EVE's development and resulted in questionable and lacking content.

The logical conlusion is: EVE would, most likely be a better game today, if it wouldn't be for DUST, WoD (which I'm really looking forward too) and, now Valkyrie.

I enjoy logic.

Who is Tippia btw ?

I still ask the question, if ccp had not diverted the profitts from their core game player base towards other ventures how might that live event have gone last night?

I still ask the question, if ccp had not diverted the profitts from their core game player base towards other ventures how might that live event have gone last night?

No one responds to your question because you are an idiot. Your question is stupid and has been asked before. Therefor, no one wants to answer it again.

They can do with their money as they please. Pretty simple.

Unless you can augment or support your point

ISD petioned for having personal vendettas for abusing powers and closing my last thread.

GǪand people are pointing out that you can't.

what was my point?

what was my point?

last i checked it was eve players are giving ccp cash while they develop other games

all i have done in this thread is suggest some people are unawware of the wider state of affiars?