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mechtech Ice Liberation Army 556	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:37:00 - [1] - Quote Bond Overview: 6 month fixed term, 7.5% fixed return. Interest paid up front after bond fills. The bond has the healthy collateral of a Guardian-Vexor and 1095 battleships held by Chribba. Chribba will post to confirm holding collateral soon after this thread goes live. About Me: I've been a trader/industrialist and fairly active in the MD community since 2005. Here is a link to my last (similar) public bond: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3347495#post3347495 This bond serves to put a few of my longer term investments to work. Terms _________________________________________________________ Bond Size - 200 Billion Duration - 6 month fixed term. Interest Rate - 7.5% fixed return on investment. Interest will be paid up front for convenience. Collateral - 1x Guardian-Vexor,495 Dominixes, and 600 Armageddons held by Chribba. Minimum Investment - 5B _____________________________________________________________________________ Please post any questions you may have in this thread. Make reservations in this thread if possible, and I can also be contacted in game by convo/mail or in channel (ASCII code) Alt250. Please only reserve a chunk if you actually have the isk available on an immediate basis, thank you. Current Investor Reservations: 200B available
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1599	Posted - 2013.11.08 21:04:00 - [2] - Quote So it's 7.5 % over 6 month so approx 1.2 % a month .Did i get this right ?
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 556	Posted - 2013.11.08 21:11:00 - [3] - Quote flakeys wrote: So it's 7.5 % over 6 month so approx 1.2 % a month .Did i get this right ? Correct, although the entire 7.5% will be paid up front in this case.
Blueprint Seller The Blueprint Shop 106	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:50:00 - [4] - Quote I'm sorry, but 1.2% is too low for me.
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1599	Posted - 2013.11.09 09:26:00 - [5] - Quote Blueprint Seller wrote: I'm sorry, but 1.2% is too low for me. Same here , the 2% that's is normal these days for large secured ones is the bottom i am willing to go.Even those only give a 'bit' of return because of the pure size.I got 200+ B with grendell currently for example and that nets me less a month then my only trade character that is left wich only uses 15 B and needs to be updated 10 minutes a week at most. If you decide to up it to 2 % then you can count me in for 50 B , otherwise good luck.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 4487	Posted - 2013.11.09 11:46:00 - [6] - Quote flakeys wrote: Blueprint Seller wrote: I'm sorry, but 1.2% is too low for me. Same here , the 2% that's is normal these days for large secured ones is the bottom i am willing to go.Even those only give a 'bit' of return because of the pure size.I got 200+ B with grendell currently for example and that nets me less a month then my only trade character that is left wich only uses 15 B and needs to be updated 10 minutes a week at most. If you decide to up it to 2 % then you can count me in for 50 B , otherwise good luck. I wish I could like x 10. Flakeys, WE are the market (bonds in this case), WE are living the fantastic and mysterious "price discovery" moment. A bottom has been reached and those who recall my "EvEBOR" talks of past years will see how it all snaps together. As I said here, Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Therefore and after much sweating at liquidating hordes of crap, I have decided to not accept < 8% overcollateral loans nor to finance anyone so miserable to not offer 2,5 - 3% interest a month. The good thing of laziness is that large investors like me are so lazy that will settle for low interest rates because after all it's "AFK ISK". The bad thing of laziness is that large investors like me are so lazy that will settle for not investing at all when the effort of logging in to send ISK is greater than the reward. I am willing to invest 30-40B at 2.5%, 20B at 2%, 0% for less than that.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 557	Posted - 2013.11.09 14:47:00 - [7] - Quote The market has spoken. Interest rate increased from 1.2% to 2%. Bond size slightly decreased to 150B. Collateral changed to 1 GV + 600 Armageddons.
Grendell Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering 750	Posted - 2013.11.09 14:50:00 - [8] - Quote Can put me down for 40 once Chribba confirms.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 4487	Posted - 2013.11.09 14:56:00 - [9] - Quote Please put me down for 20B once Chribba confirms.
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1603	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:15:00 - [10] - Quote flakeys wrote: If you decide to up it to 2 % then you can count me in for 50 B , otherwise good luck. So put me dow for 50 B then please Edit : Ow and on a sidenote as you changed the interest rate i would not mind to getting a payment each month instead of everything up front to give you a bit more '' working isk'' . But that offcourse is your own choice.

OllieNorth Recidivists Incorporated 259	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:20:00 - [11] - Quote Guardian Vexor +600 BS. Wow. Sometimes I love the crap outta this game. This is similar to someone putting up Great Britain as collateral on a loan. Awesome. /I've got 100 mil to throw in . . . (Not really, I'm probably going to lose another BC soon, because I am a terrible pilot)

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 9955	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:21:00 - [12] - Quote mechtech wrote: Update: Return boosted from 1.2% to a more standard 2%! Bond Overview: 6 month fixed term, 20% fixed return. Interest paid up front after bond fills. The bond has the healthy collateral of a Guardian-Vexor and 1095 battleships held by Chribba. Collateral is contracted to Chribba and he will post here after he accepts the contracts. About Me: I've been a trader/industrialist and fairly active in the MD community since 2005. Here is a link to my last (similar) public bond: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3347495#post3347495 This bond serves to put a few of my longer term investments to work. Terms _________________________________________________________ Bond Size - 150 Billion Duration - 6 month fixed term. Interest Rate - 10% fixed return on investment. Interest will be paid up front for convenience. Collateral - 1x Guardian-Vexor and 600 Armageddons held by Chribba. Minimum Investment - 5B _____________________________________________________________________________ Please post any questions you may have in this thread. Make reservations in this thread if possible, and I can also be contacted in game by convo/mail or in channel (ASCII code) Alt250. Please only reserve a chunk if you actually have the isk available on an immediate basis, thank you. Current Investor Reservations: Grendell 40B Vaerah Vahrokha 20B Flakeys 50B 40B available Confirming that I have received 1xGV and 600xArmageddon as collateral for this. /c

RAW23 462	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:22:00 - [13] - Quote OllieNorth wrote: Guardian Vexor +600 BS. Wow. Sometimes I love the crap outta this game. This is similar to someone putting up Great Britain as collateral on a loan. Awesome. Great Britain Quote: Guardian Vexor AND Northern Ireland Quote: 600 BS
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 557	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:38:00 - [14] - Quote OllieNorth wrote: Guardian Vexor +600 BS. Wow. Sometimes I love the crap outta this game. This is similar to someone putting up Great Britain as collateral on a loan. Awesome. /I've got 100 mil to throw in . . . (Not really, I'm probably going to lose another BC soon, because I am a terrible pilot) Yes, that's why I started with a low rate. Should I get hit by a bus or life throws me surprise jailtime, there would be a very nice payout. I'm fairly sure the GV could fetch 125+B alone, assuming it wasn't just thrown up on the sell order forums and actually advertised to the proper space-rich 0.0 dwellers. It looks like only two or so come up for sale every year. On another note, it would be interesting to explore if the market would pay anything for a financial instrument like this... IE I give two Guardian Vexors to Chribba, and have a payment window that needs to be met a year down the line or else they are liquidated. I bet there would be some people willing to throw in a bil or two on the off chance they get 50x the amount back. Interesting thought, but at the very least this is an aspect of bonds that isn't always taken into account. Chribba has confirmed collateral and 40B is still available. Almost full, now's the time to post if you're interested!
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1604	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:42:00 - [15] - Quote 50 B send to mechtech
Gihl Steghern Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.11.09 19:59:00 - [16] - Quote Please put me down for 20B.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 557	Posted - 2013.11.09 21:10:00 - [17] - Quote 20B left available.
Grendell Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering 750	Posted - 2013.11.09 21:53:00 - [18] - Quote Will transfer isk tomorrow night as it's the soonest I can login!
Oculi Magni Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 0	Posted - 2013.11.09 23:31:00 - [19] - Quote I would like to invest 10B, however soonest I can reliable login is monday evening.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 557	Posted - 2013.11.09 23:45:00 - [20] - Quote Oculi Magni wrote: I would like to invest 10B, however soonest I can reliable login is monday evening. Alright, I'll note that and add you on the backup list. If the bond is not full by then, or someone backs out, I'll let you know.

Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 4490	Posted - 2013.11.10 00:27:00 - [21] - Quote 20B sent.
Gihl Steghern Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 01:05:00 - [22] - Quote 20 billion ISK sent
Kaputt Solar Storm Insidious Empire 3	Posted - 2013.11.10 01:14:00 - [23] - Quote I will fill the remaining 20bill. ISK to be sent shortly
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 557	Posted - 2013.11.10 02:04:00 - [24] - Quote Confirming isk received from: Vaerah Vahrokha 20B Flakeys 50B Gihl Steghern 20B Kaputt 20B The bond has officially started. The bond will close on 4/10/14. Interest will be sent after I have received Grendell's investment (monday evening). Thanks everyone, and you even managed to wrangle 2% out of me -As a side note, if anyone is late to the party and wants in, I'd take another 50B at 1.5% per month for 5 months. Just send me an eve-mail in game, and if 50B in interest @ 1.5% turns up, I'll send another 500 battleships Chribba's way and expand the bond to the 200B that I originally wanted.
leona starfire LS Trading and Production Inc. 2	Posted - 2013.11.10 09:42:00 - [25] - Quote If you can do 2% per month I can put in 50B isk after Chribba confirms he has received the 500 BS.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 562	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:15:00 - [26] - Quote 40B received from Grendell. Leona, I'll keep that in mind. Perhaps I'll take you up on that offer in a week's time if I see a need for extra capital.
enterprisePSI 219	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:04:00 - [27] - Quote Dammit im late. :( The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi-¬ I made tweet, Y U NO FOLLOW!!!
Grendell Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering 751	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:21:00 - [28] - Quote enterprisePSI wrote: Dammit im late. :( There are just too many lurking MD sharks looking for any opportunity to attack you with cuddles and isk! Gùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦ 3rd Party Service Gùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦ GÖÑ Securing Peace of mind GÖÑ Loans available
Gihl Steghern Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.11.12 01:36:00 - [29] - Quote Confirming the receipt of an advance interest payment in the amount of 2 billion ISK.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 4634	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:40:00 - [30] - Quote Gihl Steghern wrote: Confirming the receipt of an advance interest payment in the amount of 2 billion ISK. You did? I did not get it. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel

mechtech Ice Liberation Army 563	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:12:00 - [31] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Gihl Steghern wrote: Confirming the receipt of an advance interest payment in the amount of 2 billion ISK. You did? I did not get it. Contracts have been sent to all investors (contracts are easier for me to track, I transfer a ton of isk between alts). If the contract expires without being accepted a direct isk payment will be sent.
Gihl Steghern Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:29:00 - [32] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Gihl Steghern wrote: Confirming the receipt of an advance interest payment in the amount of 2 billion ISK. You did? I did not get it. Yeah, I was a bit surprised to see it show up as a contract but it popped up about a minute before my posting time above.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 4634	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:26:00 - [33] - Quote OK I found the contract, for 2B. I have a question though. In the first prospectus line(s) it says "upped to 2%", right? Then it says: "6 months" right? Therefore, 2 * 6 = 12% right? If so, it'd be 2.4B not 2B. Any idea why is not 2.4B? Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1613	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:35:00 - [34] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: OK I found the contract, for 2B. I have a question though. In the first prospectus line(s) it says "upped to 2%", right? Then it says: "6 months" right? Therefore, 2 * 6 = 12% right? If so, it'd be 2.4B not 2B. Any idea why is not 2.4B? Bit of the same here , confirming i received 5 B .As i should get 1 B per month and looking at VV's post i can only assume you forgot one month or it is shortened a month. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 563	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:40:00 - [35] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: OK I found the contract, for 2B. I have a question though. In the first prospectus line(s) it says "upped to 2%", right? Then it says: "6 months" right? Therefore, 2 * 6 = 12% right? If so, it'd be 2.4B not 2B. Any idea why is not 2.4B? Ah, I changed the title of the thread to 5 months after upping the return, but neglected to change the body of the thread. I'd prefer to run it for 5 months, but I understand if you would rather have a 6 month duration. Looks like a few typos slipped through unfortunately... I'll mail the investors and confirm the bond duration. Anyone who is expecting a 6 month bond will have that option and receive extra interest accordingly. Sorry for the confusion, but ill take care of it.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 4634	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:47:00 - [36] - Quote I confirm my investment of 20B for 6 (six) months at 2% a month, for a total of 2.4B. I shall therefore receive an additional 400M. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
mechtech Ice Liberation Army 563	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:51:00 - [37] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: I confirm my investment of 20B for 6 (six) months at 2% a month, for a total of 2.4B. I shall therefore receive an additional 400M. Here is a copy of the mail I just sent: "Hi all, this is a message to all investors in my 150B bond. Unfortunately there was a typo in the main post after I upped the rate to 2%. I listed a 10% return but a 6 month duration. The bond was meant to be a 5 month bond with a 10% return, but because of my error, anyone who is expecting a 6 month length will have that option available. Currently, 10% interest for a 5 month duration has been contracted to all investors. Anyone wanting a 6 month bond, simply message me back and I'll send the extra 2% your way and hold your isk for an extra month. Thanks!" Vaerah, you've been sent an extra 2% and set to a 6 month length, thanks.
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1613	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:02:00 - [38] - Quote Agreed to keep my investment with mech for 5 months . So have gotten full interest and will get initiall investment back around 10th of april 2014 . Good luck with the isk mech . We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 4634	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:06:00 - [39] - Quote EvEmail reply about upping to 6 months sent. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 4634	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:32:00 - [40] - Quote 400M received. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel

Gihl Steghern Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:52:00 - [41] - Quote I will stick with the 5 months @ 10%, thank you!
Kaputt Solar Storm Insidious Empire 3	Posted - 2013.11.13 12:05:00 - [42] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: OK I found the contract, for 2B. I have a question though. In the first prospectus line(s) it says "upped to 2%", right? Then it says: "6 months" right? Therefore, 2 * 6 = 12% right? If so, it'd be 2.4B not 2B. Any idea why is not 2.4B? Mail responded to. And I am the same as VV...


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