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KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:04:00 -
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With Darius Johnson, a former CCP employee, defending the actions of CCP in this thread, I was curious as to whether or not this represents the feelings of the whole of your company.
In the past year, there has been literally scandal after scandal.
First the ToS changes.
Then, the string of SOMER incidents:
-Non-player made items, and rare valuables being gifted to SOMER, who then...
-Are also shown to be receiving the limited and extremely valuable IshScorps behind the scenes. After which SOMER...
-Is caught running a "Redacted" business model, making RL cash from those who chose to deal with them. So they were told to stop, and then...
-Choose to ramp up their "Redacted" business.
Now we have massive amounts of skillpoints being given back to players.
But these things happen. What worries me more, is that an ex-employee is sperging all over General Discussion, defending the questionable policies that you have chosen follow in the past year.
Is this truly the way that CCP sees things?
Did you not learn the harm that is caused when you choose to incessantly ignore those who play your game?
Why is an ex-CCP employee still acting as if he speaks for the company?
Does the CSM mean nothing anymore?
Should we all just take your consistent silence as a sign that you no longer care about the game that made CCP a multi-national company?
Some answers from someone that actually still works for the company would be great.
Thanks!!!  |

Agent Kailethre
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
31
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:07:00 -
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I was in that thread.
Things got heated, and some people got really over the top.
Genuinely interested if there's going to be some official responses. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
567
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:08:00 -
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Agent Kailethre wrote:I was in that thread.
Things got heated, and some people got really over the top.
Genuinely interested if there's going to be some official responses.
It would certainly be nice.
For a change... |

Frying Doom
3301
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:11:00 -
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Agent Kailethre wrote:I was in that thread.
Things got heated, and some people got really over the top.
Genuinely interested if there's going to be some official responses. To quote Mrs Krabappel (Marcia Wallace R.I.P)
Ha!!! |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
2601
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:12:00 -
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I like Cake. |

Frying Doom
3301
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:13:00 -
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Tollen Gallen wrote:I like Cake. Given how often you say that
No cake for you, you must be diabetic by now |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
2601
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:15:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Tollen Gallen wrote:I like Cake. Given how often you say that No cake for you, you must be diabetic by now 
I like Bacon. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
567
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:16:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Tollen Gallen wrote:I like Cake. Given how often you say that No cake for you, you must be diabetic by now 
Too true, lol.
But seriously, guys.
On topic here.
I want to know if CCP is even aware that EvE exists anymore.
All I ever see is Guard, Fozzie, and Rise......sometimes Falcon.
I guess now they are outsourcing EvE to former employees. |

Agent Kailethre
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
32
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:16:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Agent Kailethre wrote:I was in that thread.
Things got heated, and some people got really over the top.
Genuinely interested if there's going to be some official responses. To quote Mrs Krabappel (Marcia Wallace R.I.P) Ha!!!
I'm not sure if you were derisive or making fun of Darius. I need to fix my internet speak. |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
37
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:19:00 -
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Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
567
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:21:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do.
Because he could have actually provided the information needed to see that Heavy Rayne did what he did of his own volition.
It has been thoroughly documented. |

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
147
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:22:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do.
Stop you're ruining their transparent attempts to manufacture drama to draw attention to whomever the **** erotica 1 is in the hopes he gets a free trip to Iceland. |

Frying Doom
3304
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:23:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do. Stop you're ruining their transparent attempts to manufacture drama to draw attention to whomever the **** erotica 1 is in the hopes he gets a free trip to Iceland. Oh look wonder boy is back  |

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
147
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:24:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Darius JOHNSON wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do. Stop you're ruining their transparent attempts to manufacture drama to draw attention to whomever the **** erotica 1 is in the hopes he gets a free trip to Iceland. Oh look wonder boy is back 
How's that pastebin coming along? |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1402
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:24:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do.
Mostly because it's a ridiculous miscarriage of what the rules are and have been for the last, oh, half a decade? |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
567
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:24:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do. Stop you're ruining their transparent attempts to manufacture drama to draw attention to whomever the **** erotica 1 is in the hopes he gets a free trip to Iceland.
And you are sperging for a company you no longer work for.
Go back to the other thread.
You need to defend your perpetually AFK masters. |

Khurelemamas
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:27:00 -
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Erotica 1 is too irrelevant to be on the csm |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
568
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:28:00 -
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Khurelemamas wrote:Erotica 1 is too irrelevant to be on the csm
Says the NPC corp alt.

Post with your main. |

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:30:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Darius JOHNSON wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do. Stop you're ruining their transparent attempts to manufacture drama to draw attention to whomever the **** erotica 1 is in the hopes he gets a free trip to Iceland. And you are sperging for a company you no longer work for. Go back to the other thread. You need to defend your perpetually AFK masters.
Never defended CCP. At all. As a matter of fact I posted to the contrary. It's cool though because I can also post threads and I'm going to blow up your spot in a minute. |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
37
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:30:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do. Because he could have actually provided the information needed to see that Heavy Rayne did what he did of his own volition. It has been thoroughly documented.
Read this sentence.
There's a key word in it you should use to understand why that request is utterly stupid from a business to accept. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
568
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:32:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Darius JOHNSON wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do. Stop you're ruining their transparent attempts to manufacture drama to draw attention to whomever the **** erotica 1 is in the hopes he gets a free trip to Iceland. And you are sperging for a company you no longer work for. Go back to the other thread. You need to defend your perpetually AFK masters. Never defended CCP. At all. As a matter of fact I posted to the contrary. It's cool though because I can also post threads and I'm going to blow up your spot in a minute.
Cool by me, bro.
Do what you have to do.
If you wouldn't mind calling your puppeteer's and letting them get us some answers, that would be great.
'Mmkay Thanks!!!! |

Rekkr Nordgard
The Ardency of Faith Filthy Bastards
100
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:32:00 -
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Darius Johnson and Erotica 1 are both enormous douchebags; this isn't about them. This is about the fact that we're getting less and less communication from CCP over longer and longer periods of time as the scandals just keep stacking up. I don't know how Icelandic business culture is, but if the customer service people at the company I work for left such huge issues unaddressed for over a month, like CCP does, then they'd be looking for new jobs.
Also, it's now the weekend, so CCP won't even be reading this thread for another 2 days. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
568
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:35:00 -
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Rekkr Nordgard wrote:Darius Johnson and Erotica 1 are both enormous douchebags; this isn't about them. This is about the fact that we're getting less and less communication from CCP over longer and longer periods of time as the scandals just keep stacking up. I don't know how Icelandic business culture is, but if the customer service people at the company I work for left such huge issues unaddressed for over a month, like CCP does, then they'd be looking for new jobs.
Also, it's now the weekend, so CCP won't even be reading this thread for another 2 days.
Exactly, that is precisely the point.
5-6 scandals in a year....not so good.
Remember, it only took one to unsub half the community.
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Frying Doom
3304
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:35:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote: It's cool though because I can also post threads and I'm going to blow up your spot in a minute. Might be a language thing but is that a DIAF reference? |

Genital Warts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:36:00 -
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I HAVE GENITAL WARTS BUT I VOTE EROTICA 1 FOR CSM |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
567
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:40:00 -
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Genital Warts wrote:I HAVE GENITAL WARTS BUT I VOTE EROTICA 1 FOR CSM Just like the aforementioned thread, this is now an Erotica1 CSM thread (and always has been, really).
May I suggest to ISD that both of these threads get moved to Jita Parks? |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
569
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:42:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Genital Warts wrote:I HAVE GENITAL WARTS BUT I VOTE EROTICA 1 FOR CSM Just like the aforementioned thread, this is now an Erotica1 CSM thread.
May I suggest to ISD that both of these threads get moved to Jita Parks?
Wrong.
This thread is precisely what it is labeled.
I want to know what CCP's stance is.
They have crapped on the playerbase for months now with their incessant silence. |

Genital Warts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:42:00 -
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why remove isnt this a forum were anyone can voice there opinion ??? please tell me if im wrong but i think its more you are butthurt about some things that have been done to you ? |

Genital Warts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:44:00 -
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oh this is a alt i have never trained can i have some free sp aswell 17mill will do |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
567
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:46:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Genital Warts wrote:I HAVE GENITAL WARTS BUT I VOTE EROTICA 1 FOR CSM Just like the aforementioned thread, this is now an Erotica1 CSM thread.
May I suggest to ISD that both of these threads get moved to Jita Parks? Wrong. This thread is precisely what it is labeled. I want to know what CCP's stance is. They have crapped on the playerbase for months now with their incessant silence. Maybe because half the time (like this particular case), the player base ***** itself over trivialities that barely affect anyone?
When you yell at CCP for every little thing, they start to ignore you as any sane man would ignore a raving lunatic on the street. Thus when you yell real loud over sht like this, when the next case of massive favoritism happens, they ignore you for a good long time.
~~Obligatory: Erotica1 for CSM~~ |

Agent Kailethre
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
36
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:48:00 -
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People please stop derailing the thread.
I and many others would like some legit answers from CCP about the issues that have been raised. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
567
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:51:00 -
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Read it again, Erotica1's CSM publicity stunt is the issue.  |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
576
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:55:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Read it again, Erotica1's CSM publicity stunt is the issue. 
Read it again.
While I may be an Ero supporter, my problems are with CCP picking and choosing their favorites.
First SOMER does the one major thing in EvE you are not supposed to do.
Now CCP is freely giving out skillpoints.
Wtf?
Where is the rest of ours?
Even yours? |

Zazz Razzamatazz
New Order Permit Compliance Division
12
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:57:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Read it again, Erotica1's CSM publicity stunt is the issue.  Now CCP is freely giving out skillpoints.
Free skillpoints to someone who has admitted to violating the EULA!
|

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
577
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:59:00 -
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Zazz Razzamatazz wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Read it again, Erotica1's CSM publicity stunt is the issue.  Now CCP is freely giving out skillpoints. Free skillpoints to someone who has admitted to violating the EULA!
Exactly.
At least some people are not complete nimrods.
+1 good sir. |

Na Und
Galactronics
90
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:59:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote: When you yell at CCP for every little thing, they start to ignore you as any sane man would ignore a raving lunatic on the street. Thus when you yell real loud over sht like this, when the next case of massive favoritism happens, they ignore you for a good long time.
Pretty much this. |

Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
73
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Posted - 2013.11.09 01:53:00 -
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Rekkr Nordgard wrote:Darius Johnson and Erotica 1 are both enormous douchebags; this isn't about them. This is about the fact that we're getting less and less communication from CCP over longer and longer periods of time as the scandals just keep stacking up. I don't know how Icelandic business culture is, but if the customer service people at the company I work for left such huge issues unaddressed for over a month, like CCP does, then they'd be looking for new jobs.
Also, it's now the weekend, so CCP won't even be reading this thread for another 2 days.
Even in America and EU, customer service DOES work this way.
CCP isn't a cashier, you aren't just picking milk up from the store. It is a complicated business arrangement with contracts and terms and accounts.
Having been in business for myself at a time, I can tell you that it can take months to iron out wrinkles in business relationships. When those relationships are ever-changing the need to smooth these wrinkles out PROPERLY instead of quickly is even greater.
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Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
247
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Posted - 2013.11.09 01:59:00 -
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Scandal's more of an american thing. The only way change happens if there is a "Scandal".
Else it would be business as usual.
Seems EVE has seeped in that model of "nothing changes", then "Scandal", then "Stuff Changes"....
|

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7136
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:34:00 -
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So many other threads got a response from CCP today.
I see Fozzie and few others piped in on a stupid picture of bourbon in the background of a video.
I see Karkur responded to someone polejocking.
Its strange that not 1 CCP employee will even say "We are looking into this" or " We hear your concerns and are discussing it internally at the moment". All they can do is pull their retired mouthpiece out of goonie drydock to hurl some 'pubbies' and 'plebs' and 'entitlements' at us.
Oh well. I don't ever expect a real response from them anyways. Ignoring problems until they go away seems to be SOP at the moment while bad decision after bad decision is piled on the failheap.
Ill just do my thing and cause hate and discontent with the occasional helpful bit and maybe a little humor once in a while..and maybe Eterne will come a emailin' again with my vacation orders. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
589
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:35:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Scandal's more of an american thing. The only way change happens if there is a "Scandal".
Else it would be business as usual.
Seems EVE has seeped in that model of "nothing changes", then "Scandal", then "Stuff Changes"....
Only in this case it is:
-Nothing changes -Scandal -Scandal -Scandal -Scandal -.... -.... -.... -Something might change? |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
632
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Posted - 2013.11.09 04:30:00 -
[41] - Quote
The problem with Erotica 1 is that she'll run into the same problem James ran into when running for the CSM. As in you have to give your real life info and actually sign an NDA and pay lip service to the people who bribe you with a free trip to Iceland. |

Mekkimaru
Abraxsys Get Off My Lawn
28
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:29:00 -
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who the hell is erotica1?
and why are people making such a fuss over one random guy getting back some sp, after losing said sp
is there proof of more people randomly getting sp?
how do i go about getting said free sp?
ccp could probably give a player 1 isk, and you people would whine about it  |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7142
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:41:00 -
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Mekkimaru wrote:who the hell is erotica1? and why are people making such a fuss over one random guy getting back some sp, after losing said sp is there proof of more people randomly getting sp? how do i go about getting said free sp? ccp could probably give a player 1 isk, and you people would whine about it 
Its not about the SP. Its about the fact that the person in question committed a bannable act, admitted tot hat bannable act, and not only WASNT banned, but was reimbursed something that stemmed from that bannable act. CCP is unwilling to stick to their guns on their own rules lately, and its coming to a head.
As for Erotica1, She is just some person, like me, who points at the giant pink elephant in the room that everyone else is ignoring and shouts THERE IS A GIANT ******* PINK ELEPHANT RIGHT THERE, NOW ******* LOOK AT IT! it also just so happens that she runs a business within the confines of the rules of EVE (something that CCP themselves now DONT do) that makes her money, and people don't like that. |

wagashi
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:01:00 -
[44] - Quote
The real issue is of accountability CCP asks, no demands your unequivocal trust and that players adhere to the spirit of the rules when there is technical grey area. While doing so they waffle back and forth on what is okay and what isn't to the point where absolute zero wiggle room rules ( account sharing) become new test cases for what is permissable. I seem to remember some supers stolen by NC. under a cloud of accoumt sharing was also given a green light as it were. We as players regardless of who runs the game itself require rules and enforcement that even and logical, this is not an extreme demand. |

Aesynil
The Unit... Valhalla Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.11.09 08:00:00 -
[45] - Quote
Yeah, CCP needs to communicate more.
Honestly? I'd rather have them keep up to date on updates, interesting new content, and telling me how the game is changing in general, than stamp down on every new forum drama that pops up. |

Dream Kim
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2013.11.09 08:14:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Tollen Gallen wrote:I like Cake. Given how often you say that No cake for you, you must be diabetic by now  Too true, lol. But seriously, guys. On topic here. I want to know if CCP is even aware that EvE exists anymore. All I ever see is Guard, Fozzie, and Rise......sometimes Falcon. I guess now they are outsourcing EvE to former employees.
Please don't forget CCP Seagul. She is ******* awesome. |

adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.11.09 08:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
Aesynil wrote:
Honestly? I'd rather have them tell us about updates and new content, than stamp down on every new forum drama that pops up.
Right and in addition to these, some of us perhaps want them to fix the dramas that they create. |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
577
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Posted - 2013.11.09 08:56:00 -
[48] - Quote
Silence from CCP? Or is it just that CCPGÇÖs representatives like any other sane person only opens GD as entertainment, similar to the Sunday comics section, you donGÇÖt take it seriously because the trolls, backseat drivers, Monday morning politicos, and general lack of anything intelligent deserves exactly that, Nothing.
Want a stake in the company buy some stock in Novator or General Catalyst, about $600mil in either will give you some executive power, and then you can drive the company into the ground with your grassroots ideas and high school diploma
|

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1906
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Posted - 2013.11.09 09:01:00 -
[49] - Quote
Goldiiee wrote:Silence from CCP? Or is it just that CCPGÇÖs representatives like any other sane person only opens GD as entertainment, similar to the Sunday comics section, you donGÇÖt take it seriously because the trolls, backseat drivers, Monday morning politicos, and general lack of anything intelligent deserves exactly that, Nothing.
Want a stake in the company buy some stock in Novator or General Catalyst, about $600mil in either will give you some executive power, and then you can drive the company into the ground with your grassroots ideas and high school diploma
It's more likely they just aren't out of bed yet. |

Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
74
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Posted - 2013.11.09 09:15:00 -
[50] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Its not about the SP. Its about the fact that the person in question committed a bannable act, admitted tot hat bannable act, and not only WASNT banned, but was reimbursed something that stemmed from that bannable act. CCP is unwilling to stick to their guns on their own rules lately, and its coming to a head.
As for Erotica1, She is just some person, like me, who points at the giant pink elephant in the room that everyone else is ignoring and shouts THERE IS A GIANT ******* PINK ELEPHANT RIGHT THERE, NOW ******* LOOK AT IT! it also just so happens that she runs a business within the confines of the rules of EVE (something that CCP themselves now DONT do) that makes her money, and people don't like that.
More like...
Player 1 lies every day. Has the filthiest of reputations for inciting random drama for publicity, is well known by just about everyone to always say things that are not the truth.
Now do I trust player 1 to accurately retell the facts in an unbiased manner? |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4422
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Posted - 2013.11.09 09:39:00 -
[51] - Quote
I like Tollen Gallen. |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2452
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Posted - 2013.11.09 11:05:00 -
[52] - Quote
Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:More like...
Player 1 lies every day. Has the filthiest of reputations for inciting random drama for publicity, is well known by just about everyone to always say things that are not the truth.
Now do I trust player 1 to accurately retell the facts in an unbiased manner?
Do you trust EVE's API system to give you accurate and reliable numbers? 'cause that's where the information came from. |

Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
112
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Posted - 2013.11.09 11:27:00 -
[53] - Quote
Get this. Maybe CCP actually cares about ALL of their playerbase, and not just the popular "emergent content" generating groups that are seemingly trying to find all sorts of ways to make the lesser players unsubscribe? Maybe CCP as a business sees posting a response on this forum about this topic as a huge and unnecessary risk to their subscriber numbers?
Or I guess the ideas of people unsubscribing over months of assets and progression lost to activities not related to any CCP envisioned EVE experience and simple business risk assessment are just too outlandish for the high-denizens of EVE to understand. |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
633
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Posted - 2013.11.09 11:38:00 -
[54] - Quote
The other things were shady, and the whole "CCP hasn't said a thing" is getting a bit tiresome, but i personally agree with the skillpoint reimbursement. That player has, afterall, paid for all that time. Hardly his fault to fall for Erotica's room of tear collection, even if he was sharing passwords with his brother, or if his brother doesn't even exist. Erotica has demonstrated repeatedly his ability to fool people into believing his lies, for the promises of riches which they will never recieve. Personally, i think podding someone over and over for just such twisted amusement is the hight of bad-play, and their "bonus-room" is nothing but a place where they exploit the vulnerable for their own selfish pleasure. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
616
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Posted - 2013.11.09 11:47:00 -
[55] - Quote
Dream Kim wrote:
Please don't forget CCP Seagul. She is ******* awesome.
I can confirm the Seagull is indeed awesome.
Too bad we cannot get some information on scandal after scandal.
Like what they were thinking....
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Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
74
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:35:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:More like...
Player 1 lies every day. Has the filthiest of reputations for inciting random drama for publicity, is well known by just about everyone to always say things that are not the truth.
Now do I trust player 1 to accurately retell the facts in an unbiased manner? Do you trust EVE's API system to give you accurate and reliable numbers? 'cause that's where the information came from.
Really? The API system tells you who was using the account at any given time? It also tells you that they acquired the password and username in a consensual manner?
Damn devs. that is some API. |

Bao Xi
Krypteia Operations CODE.
45
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:39:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Because a former employee clearly represents an entire company.
Also why do CCP owe it to Erotica1 to discuss their handling of a support ticket regarding another player? That's sort of stupid for any business to do. Stop you're ruining their transparent attempts to manufacture drama to draw attention to whomever the **** erotica 1 is in the hopes he gets a free trip to Iceland.
Sir, please calm down. |

Bao Xi
Krypteia Operations CODE.
45
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:44:00 -
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Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Its not about the SP. Its about the fact that the person in question committed a bannable act, admitted tot hat bannable act, and not only WASNT banned, but was reimbursed something that stemmed from that bannable act. CCP is unwilling to stick to their guns on their own rules lately, and its coming to a head.
As for Erotica1, She is just some person, like me, who points at the giant pink elephant in the room that everyone else is ignoring and shouts THERE IS A GIANT ******* PINK ELEPHANT RIGHT THERE, NOW ******* LOOK AT IT! it also just so happens that she runs a business within the confines of the rules of EVE (something that CCP themselves now DONT do) that makes her money, and people don't like that.
More like... Player 1 lies every day. Has the filthiest of reputations for inciting random drama for publicity, is well known by just about everyone to always say things that are not the truth. Now do I trust player 1 to accurately retell the facts in an unbiased manner?
I hope you are aware that none of this is based on simple hearsay. The entire thing was well documented. I have dozens of Heavy Rayne corpses in my hangar.
Heavy Rayne tried to blame his brother for his actions. This is after he threatened to violate the EULA by logging in to his brother's account. Heavy Rayne wasn't the victim of his brother, or anybody else. He was willing to victimize his brother.
What was the punishment for his untoward behaviour? None. No punishment whatsoever.
It would seem he was actually rewarded for his bad behaviour, given that he enjoyed the company of the Bonus Room crowd while he was being podded, only to have those pods reversed by CCP. Rayne was fully aware of what was happening. That much is evident within the TS recordings.
In this case, the facts, which are well documented, speak for themselves. |

KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
629
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:45:00 -
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Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:ElQuirko wrote:Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:More like...
Player 1 lies every day. Has the filthiest of reputations for inciting random drama for publicity, is well known by just about everyone to always say things that are not the truth.
Now do I trust player 1 to accurately retell the facts in an unbiased manner? Do you trust EVE's API system to give you accurate and reliable numbers? 'cause that's where the information came from. Really? The API system tells you who was using the account at any given time? It also tells you that they acquired the password and username in a consensual manner? Damn devs. that is some API.
Not to mention a long line of teamspeak recordings and other logs.
Nah, but an API does show EvEMails revealing to the corp's CEO that there were account sharing issues.
So, yea. I guess the actual PEOPLE playing on the account are liars.

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Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
74
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:54:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:ElQuirko wrote:Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:More like...
Player 1 lies every day. Has the filthiest of reputations for inciting random drama for publicity, is well known by just about everyone to always say things that are not the truth.
Now do I trust player 1 to accurately retell the facts in an unbiased manner? Do you trust EVE's API system to give you accurate and reliable numbers? 'cause that's where the information came from. Really? The API system tells you who was using the account at any given time? It also tells you that they acquired the password and username in a consensual manner? Damn devs. that is some API. Not to mention a long line of teamspeak recordings and other logs. Nah, but an API does show EvEMails revealing to the corp's CEO that there were account sharing issues. So, yea. I guess the actual PEOPLE playing on the account are liars. 
Wow yeah, pretty conclusive evidence.
Good thing Erotica linked all that data. Or you'd have to be some kind of touched to think the games most popular scammer isn't, you know, scamming.
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KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
630
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:01:00 -
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Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:
Wow yeah, pretty conclusive evidence.
Good thing Erotica linked all that data. Or you'd have to be some kind of touched to think the games most popular scammer isn't, you know, scamming.
Yea, it is a good thing that Erotica did not link all of that data.
Because we choose not to break the rules, like seems to be the norm in this game of late.
Because, you know....there are rules, after all.
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
291
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:35:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Genital Warts wrote:I HAVE GENITAL WARTS BUT I VOTE EROTICA 1 FOR CSM Just like the aforementioned thread, this is now an Erotica1 CSM thread.
May I suggest to ISD that both of these threads get moved to Jita Parks? Wrong. This thread is precisely what it is labeled. I want to know what CCP's stance is. They have crapped on the playerbase for months now with their incessant silence.
The silence is because the forum warriors crap on everything they ever say or do and thus silence becomes the only rational response. Look at the features and ideas threads for why interacting with the forum peoples is less and less appealing. I support james 315 I support Erotica 1 i support Cannibal Kane i support Goons i support my right to shoot goons I support SOMER i support CCP trying to improve their game I support scammers I support thieves I support awoxers I support gankers I support all those that stand up to the null sec power blocks.
If you want communication then you have to be open to communication. If everything is black and white then there is zero point talking to you. i love EVE but you all have to recognise that we have the dev communication that we deserve. /rant over /go back to shooting sov owners and renters |

Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
57
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:40:00 -
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Not to mention the only evidence is what the guy said, not what he did. It's likely he lied about the other account so that you and your 21 alts wouldn't ask for those assets as well. Now if you are truly this upset about any of these "scandals" you should vote with your wallet. Biomass, cancel subscriptions, delete EVE. And take your in game assets with you please. |

Decian Cor
Disconnected. Moon Warriors
27
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:28:00 -
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and I'm just over here like...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R2vQLhmmW4
/popcorn |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2324
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Posted - 2013.11.11 09:18:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:The problem with Erotica 1 is that she'll run into the same problem James ran into when running for the CSM. As in you have to give your real life info and actually sign an NDA and pay lip service to the people who bribe you with a free trip to Iceland.
I addressed this today. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5127
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Posted - 2013.11.11 09:20:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:The problem with Erotica 1 is that she'll run into the same problem James ran into when running for the CSM. As in you have to give your real life info and actually sign an NDA and pay lip service to the people who bribe you with a free trip to Iceland. I addressed this today. What's wrong with that, just make sure you don't go first, let someone else run in and tell everyone that somer are the good guys and you're all evil subversives |

Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
76
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Posted - 2013.11.11 16:45:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Yea, it is a good thing that Erotica did not link all of that data.
Because we choose not to break the rules, like seems to be the norm in this game of late.
Because, you know....there are rules, after all.
Look, I'm not going to critique anyone for trusting the only legit ISK doubler in the game. That would just be crazy.
Just don't act like you are working with hard proof, cause you aren't. Tell me again about how every playstyle you dont engage in "doesn't require any effort" and everyone who does it needs to die in a fire. Be sure to mention about how you tried it once but it was too easy/boring/ethnic-homophobic slur.-á |
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