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QBall	Posted - 2003.09.01 04:20:00 - [1] Edited by: QBall on 01/09/2003 04:23:25 I was previously the so called "Monarch" of the Venal Alliance, I ultimitally approved/denied all memberships. If you wanted to join you contacted me. When war broke out it became impossible for me to maintain control over the alliance. So a councel was formed. What you are seeing was the heated end to the second meeting of the Venal Council made up from rep's of every corp. In our first session TTI was all but well involved in the Council, and had agreed to look into the possiblity of them leaving the alliance then coming back at a later time. Then today and the beggining of the "Venal Civil War"... Meeting took place ~20:00 EVE time, I was approched ~19:30 by Roark and Ragnar. As the previous sole leader of the alliance I had much clout with the other member, and TTI was planning to use this as a tool. The gave an indirect thread of what they intended on doing... ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: Ragnar conversation Listener: QBall Session started: 2003.08.31 19:06:32 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2003.08.31 19:07:17 ] Ragnar > Howdy [ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] QBall > hello [ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] Ragnar > I am trying to get Roark in here [ 2003.08.31 19:07:36 ] QBall > i invited him [ 2003.08.31 19:07:45 ] Roark > Okay hey he is here good [ 2003.08.31 19:07:53 ] Roark > I will let Ragnar talk [ 2003.08.31 19:08:22 ] Ragnar > Okay where are you guys coming down on this vote today? [ 2003.08.31 19:09:00 ] QBall > Cyberdyne? [ 2003.08.31 19:09:44 ] Ragnar > Right [ 2003.08.31 19:09:52 ] QBall > wretch is handling the vote [ 2003.08.31 19:10:10 ] QBall > as he is CEO, and I'm pretty sure he's voting to split [ 2003.08.31 19:10:26 ] QBall > I went bar hopping last night didnt get to talk to him much [ 2003.08.31 19:10:30 ] Ragnar > He is voting to kick out TTI and SI right? [ 2003.08.31 19:10:49 ] QBall > I think so [ 2003.08.31 19:10:53 ] QBall > have to ask him though [ 2003.08.31 19:11:03 ] Ragnar > Okay just wanted to be sure. There is a rift coming and there is one side that is safe and one that is not. [ 2003.08.31 19:11:08 ] Roark > Yes that is right. [ 2003.08.31 19:11:34 ] QBall > hm... [ 2003.08.31 19:11:45 ] QBall > TTI gonna go loco on the VA if they get kicked? [ 2003.08.31 19:12:50 ] Ragnar > I just wanted to see where you stood on the matter... thanks. ...After cutting me off they both left the channel soon after. Wretch (CEO of Cyberdyne) and myself both well respect members of the Venal Alliance, took that as a direct threat upon our corperation. In the past Cyberdyne and TTI have never really seen eye to eye on matters. I personally was usually the first to warp into battle followed by wretch and everyone else, and last out. All this while TTI would camp gate, or sit in station, (exception would be Mark A and Tehel Necrona - both of whom I still respect for their merrits in battle). The ultimate problem is TTI wanted to be considered a SMALL corp when it came to defending only putting 4-5 battleships AT most into the battle (In comparison Cyberdyne has 8 members and commonly had 4 battleship in the front). But then when it came to other matters they wanted to be considered a LARGE corp "Ragnar > Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty..." Due to this arrogance of we are bigger than you, we do as we wish attitude, compounded with the 100million dollar bounty on Jade head, war was forged. This is bring's us to now. TTI has tried to muscle the alliance to do as they wish. Though current member of the alliance know that TTI can in no way actually strike at alliance member because their fleet consists of Miners with **** poor gunnery skills. Medium weapons on a Bship anyone? TTI is a financial monster with a fleet a fluffy bunnies. That attempts to force people around with money, and empty threats. This is also why they have been asking all day for Cyberdyne to region their side of the conflict, with hope's that other's would follow us back in. What this does come down to though is that Cyberdyne as well as other previous VA members are now temporarily aligned with Evolution and Xanadu on this campaign against those that do intrude upon a democratic system. Cyberdyne WILL NOT BE THREATENED without repercussions. Ragnar your arrogance burned to many bridges this time. For all the other in TTI I sincerely recommend you implore some new leadership, you are being lead by a madman. Lastly what evolution has been saying is true, TTI has offered isk for attacks upon the Fountain Alliance. -QBall Previous Leader of the Venal Region -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ
QBall Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2003.09.01 04:20:00 - [2] Edited by: QBall on 01/09/2003 04:23:25 I was previously the so called "Monarch" of the Venal Alliance, I ultimitally approved/denied all memberships. If you wanted to join you contacted me. When war broke out it became impossible for me to maintain control over the alliance. So a councel was formed. What you are seeing was the heated end to the second meeting of the Venal Council made up from rep's of every corp. In our first session TTI was all but well involved in the Council, and had agreed to look into the possiblity of them leaving the alliance then coming back at a later time. Then today and the beggining of the "Venal Civil War"... Meeting took place ~20:00 EVE time, I was approched ~19:30 by Roark and Ragnar. As the previous sole leader of the alliance I had much clout with the other member, and TTI was planning to use this as a tool. The gave an indirect thread of what they intended on doing... ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: Ragnar conversation Listener: QBall Session started: 2003.08.31 19:06:32 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2003.08.31 19:07:17 ] Ragnar > Howdy [ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] QBall > hello [ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] Ragnar > I am trying to get Roark in here [ 2003.08.31 19:07:36 ] QBall > i invited him [ 2003.08.31 19:07:45 ] Roark > Okay hey he is here good [ 2003.08.31 19:07:53 ] Roark > I will let Ragnar talk [ 2003.08.31 19:08:22 ] Ragnar > Okay where are you guys coming down on this vote today? [ 2003.08.31 19:09:00 ] QBall > Cyberdyne? [ 2003.08.31 19:09:44 ] Ragnar > Right [ 2003.08.31 19:09:52 ] QBall > wretch is handling the vote [ 2003.08.31 19:10:10 ] QBall > as he is CEO, and I'm pretty sure he's voting to split [ 2003.08.31 19:10:26 ] QBall > I went bar hopping last night didnt get to talk to him much [ 2003.08.31 19:10:30 ] Ragnar > He is voting to kick out TTI and SI right? [ 2003.08.31 19:10:49 ] QBall > I think so [ 2003.08.31 19:10:53 ] QBall > have to ask him though [ 2003.08.31 19:11:03 ] Ragnar > Okay just wanted to be sure. There is a rift coming and there is one side that is safe and one that is not. [ 2003.08.31 19:11:08 ] Roark > Yes that is right. [ 2003.08.31 19:11:34 ] QBall > hm... [ 2003.08.31 19:11:45 ] QBall > TTI gonna go loco on the VA if they get kicked? [ 2003.08.31 19:12:50 ] Ragnar > I just wanted to see where you stood on the matter... thanks. ...After cutting me off they both left the channel soon after. Wretch (CEO of Cyberdyne) and myself both well respect members of the Venal Alliance, took that as a direct threat upon our corperation. In the past Cyberdyne and TTI have never really seen eye to eye on matters. I personally was usually the first to warp into battle followed by wretch and everyone else, and last out. All this while TTI would camp gate, or sit in station, (exception would be Mark A and Tehel Necrona - both of whom I still respect for their merrits in battle). The ultimate problem is TTI wanted to be considered a SMALL corp when it came to defending only putting 4-5 battleships AT most into the battle (In comparison Cyberdyne has 8 members and commonly had 4 battleship in the front). But then when it came to other matters they wanted to be considered a LARGE corp "Ragnar > Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty..." Due to this arrogance of we are bigger than you, we do as we wish attitude, compounded with the 100million dollar bounty on Jade head, war was forged. This is bring's us to now. TTI has tried to muscle the alliance to do as they wish. Though current member of the alliance know that TTI can in no way actually strike at alliance member because their fleet consists of Miners with **** poor gunnery skills. Medium weapons on a Bship anyone? TTI is a financial monster with a fleet a fluffy bunnies. That attempts to force people around with money, and empty threats. This is also why they have been asking all day for Cyberdyne to region their side of the conflict, with hope's that other's would follow us back in. What this does come down to though is that Cyberdyne as well as other previous VA members are now temporarily aligned with Evolution and Xanadu on this campaign against those that do intrude upon a democratic system. Cyberdyne WILL NOT BE THREATENED without repercussions. Ragnar your arrogance burned to many bridges this time. For all the other in TTI I sincerely recommend you implore some new leadership, you are being lead by a madman. Lastly what evolution has been saying is true, TTI has offered isk for attacks upon the Fountain Alliance. -QBall Previous Leader of the Venal Region -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ
QBall	Posted - 2003.09.01 06:34:00 - [3] Right about doesn't matter if they end up screwing us in the end as long as TTI goes down hard. Btw 10 megacorp showed up, right where TTI was being blockaded, yah thats not planned out or anything hahahaha. -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ
QBall Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2003.09.01 06:34:00 - [4] Right about doesn't matter if they end up screwing us in the end as long as TTI goes down hard. Btw 10 megacorp showed up, right where TTI was being blockaded, yah thats not planned out or anything hahahaha. -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ
QBall	Posted - 2003.09.03 21:34:00 - [5] Reason #190 For Empire Space Being PvP Free: Stupid People. Noobship - 0 isk Cheetos for the trip to venal - 100isk Petrolium for the warp drive - 99isk Flying like an idiot and getting podded by Evolution then *****ing about it for hours on the boards like a tard - Priceless Somethings in life money can't buy, for everything else, there's "n00bies". -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ
QBall Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2003.09.03 21:34:00 - [6] Reason #190 For Empire Space Being PvP Free: Stupid People. Noobship - 0 isk Cheetos for the trip to venal - 100isk Petrolium for the warp drive - 99isk Flying like an idiot and getting podded by Evolution then *****ing about it for hours on the boards like a tard - Priceless Somethings in life money can't buy, for everything else, there's "n00bies". -------- "OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!" -QBall And QQ is QQ

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