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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:22:00 -
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Well, Ive had it, Im done with ransoming for good. All you carebears whine about how pirates dont ransom, check your lowslots. Too many people have gotten away because of stabs while I tried to ransom them. I could easily kill the target in the time it takes for them to answer the convo and give me some crap excuse about asking his/her friends for the ISK. No more. It isnt the pirates who are killing the ransoming business, its the carebears who feel the need to fit 4 WCS on a Scorpion, or 5 or an Apoc who are killing the ransoming business. Well, consider it dead.
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Eamz
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:25:00 -
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I dunno, ive had targetted 7 battleships in the last 3 days, and 3/3 ive asked for ransom have paid up. Im not sure what you are doing, i suspect catching people at gates, who are probably travelling and therefor using WCS. Its very much alive from my point of view.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:25:00 -
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Happened to me way too many times -_-
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:26:00 -
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do something about stabs...
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:27:00 -
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All instances Im referring to have been in belts Eamz, although I understand where you are coming from.
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psycorabbit
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:29:00 -
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/signed. Had enough of nice kills warping out when i try to offer a ransom i will now not be offering a ransom to anyone i catch :(
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Lienzo
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:35:00 -
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Pods can't fit stabs.
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Eamz
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:37:00 -
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Ok i read again. So, you catch them, try to ransom them but then and only then do they warp off? Why dont they warp off before? I am confused.
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Jennifae
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:39:00 -
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meh, stabs aren't the biggest issue guys. Stabs do more for "us" than "them."
Think about this....at what point in an engagement do stabs come into play? At the START right?
You warp in, lock, scram, web, and start to hose him down...all BEFORE...you typically send a convo request for that oh so lovely ransom we all lust for. It's only right at the start of a given encounter does that juicy target slip away because of stabs.
The point that whether you ransom or kill won't cure the stabs deal. You wont do either if they have stabs.
Yet, by calling attention to stabs, you potentially hinder a great friend of the "blobed" pirate...yes, stabs. With f-ing 22k people on this server, most of them disgusting carebears with blobs aplenty.....pirates need an "antiblob" tool. Don't talk to me about "real men don't fly with stabs"....please....when you're constantly blobbed they are the only friend you have. Nothing pleases me more than fondling with carebear sensibilities and then offering them a glimmer of being able to catchme in their blob onslaught only to be frustrated when i slip away as my timer runs out!!! /rude carebears!
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crom ralphfao
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:40:00 -
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sounds like you have had enough........piracy is just the next step after mining for some, you will advance again i am sure.
dont let us carebears get you down just because we can afford to loose some isk for principle, that is called roleplaying. you play the cat, we will play the mouse.
ever watch itchy and scratchy?
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Eamz
Ok i read again. So, you catch them, try to ransom them but then and only then do they warp off? Why dont they warp off before? I am confused.
Maybe they think they can fight back or something, I dunno. Im just sick of getting them into structure, convoing for a ransom, then they say "1 sec, getting the ISK" and then just warp away. And Lienzo, I dont ransom pods, I *ransomed* ships.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:41:00 -
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ramsoning sucks just kos all
join soar angelic
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Valdir Mustafar
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Posted - 2006.02.13 22:18:00 -
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Warp core stabs ftl!
i always grief when they get away :/
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Lienzo
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Posted - 2006.02.13 23:10:00 -
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If you always go for the big score, you'll be disappointed about as often as lottery players are.
<5mo old pod - 100k
5mo old pod - .5M isk
7mo old pod - 1M isk
1yr old pod - 2M isk
2yr old pod - 4M isk
2.5yr old pod - 8M isk
5yr old pod - 16M isk
7yr old pod - 32M isk
You could just ransom players to not bother to log off and wait you out. This should be markedly less than a "surprise we caught ya" fee. This might be easier if you quote players a monthly fee for this "protection."
If you're a solid presence in an area, 10M isk per week/month is inviting to many smaller groups. Remind them that it is an incentive over their trading/mining rivals, and that your hunting reduces the presence of other rival pirates.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.02.13 23:54:00 -
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While I won't consider my self a true pirate, I have tried to ransom from time to time. Though I quickly stopped that. It wasn't because of the stabs, not at all actually. It was because of all the flippn smack I heard coming from the majority of my customers.
I'v had two people pay me ransom, ever. Though when starting a convo with people, I can safely say that about 20 of them started with the most fowl mouth smack I have heard coming from anyone, in any game ever. I tried roleplaying, begging, even negotiating. All I ever got was "you suck" moment before they lost thier apoc to a frig 
So I no longer ransom. For the simple reason that in my expericance, all you get is a 100 isk surcharge for starting the convo and an angry carebear who proceeds to make it his life mission to tell you how much you suck.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 14/02/2006 00:00:57
Whine some more. Pirating is to easy as is and you blame them for your stupidity? Lets put 2 and 2 together
-No experience in PvP
-All Money invested in this ship
-Want to go to low security because im tired of hugging easy mode
-Want to explore some
-Want to protect myself (WCS usage)
-No ransom isk
= Battleship with 4xWCS fitted. Can you blame them?
Solution - Adapt and stop crying.
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Cantata
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:07:00 -
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Let me get this straight.
You're whining because you want to threaten a hardworking person into giving you money you didn't earn, but when they outsmart you and escape they're a carebear.
They used their wits. They bought, fitted, and properly used some gear that was designed for the sole purpose of giving them a chance to survive. They got away with their ISK, their ship, their gear, their cargo and their life.
You're upset because you don't find yourself in a position to overpower someone who has no chance against you; in essence, you wish you could tie someone up to a chair and beat on them without them being able to defend themselves or get out of the situation in any way.
And if you can't have that you cry and moan and beg the devs to nerf them while leaving your skills and equipment intact.
And they're the carebears.
Got it.
Good grief(er), you're pathetic.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 14/02/2006 00:00:57
Whine some more. Pirating is to easy as is and you blame them for your stupidity? Lets put 2 and 2 together
-No experience in PvP
-All Money invested in this ship
-Want to go to low security because im tired of hugging easy mode
-Want to explore some
-Want to protect myself (WCS usage)
-No ransom isk
= Battleship with 4xWCS fitted. Can you blame them?
Solution - Adapt and stop crying.
Right Mr. Uber solo PVPer, go on and smack some more 
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Lucas Garin
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lucas Garin on 14/02/2006 00:25:09
Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
Maybe they think they can fight back or something, I dunno. Im just sick of getting them into structure, convoing for a ransom, then they say "1 sec, getting the ISK" and then just warp away.
"You are without doubt the worst pirate IÆve ever heard of."
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:25:00 -
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Not trying to be urber nor trying to smack you. Just stating the obvious. First sign of being hard you whine about it. It sucks I've had it happen to me but yeah it's my fault they got away. Learn to conform, you're good at that.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:25:00 -
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You're upset because you don't find yourself in a position to overpower someone who has no chance against you; in essence, you wish you could tie someone up to a chair and beat on them without them being able to defend themselves or get out of the situation in any way.
That isn't even close to the parent poster. You had to create an alt just to direct this stupidity onto the forums?
The OP is talking about how he should stop ransoming because in the time it takes people to warp away with their stabs, he could have just destroyed them instead. He's fine with them fitting WCSs but it certainly limits who he can and can not ransom. If people are going to continue to fit WCSs then it only makes sense to gank them before they can leave and use bumping tactics to de-align them from warp. No time for ransoms.
Get off your soap box and train reading comprehension to level V.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lucas Garin
Edited by: Lucas Garin on 14/02/2006 00:25:09
Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
Maybe they think they can fight back or something, I dunno. Im just sick of getting them into structure, convoing for a ransom, then they say "1 sec, getting the ISK" and then just warp away.
"You are without doubt the worst pirate IÆve ever heard of."
\o/
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lucas Garin
Edited by: Lucas Garin on 14/02/2006 00:25:09
Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
Maybe they think they can fight back or something, I dunno. Im just sick of getting them into structure, convoing for a ransom, then they say "1 sec, getting the ISK" and then just warp away.
"You are without doubt the worst pirate IÆve ever heard of."
You say that on the forums, but you would cry for your life if you met him in game, in space.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cantata
They used their wits. They bought, fitted, and properly used some gear that was designed for the sole purpose of giving them a chance to survive.
No, they fit fool proof mods so that they can fly their ships like total idiots getting caught by hostile players and still be able to get away with it. If you don't see how that is wrong, you're not supposed to post in this thread.
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Cantata
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
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You're upset because you don't find yourself in a position to overpower someone who has no chance against you; in essence, you wish you could tie someone up to a chair and beat on them without them being able to defend themselves or get out of the situation in any way.
That isn't even close to the parent poster. You had to create an alt just to direct this stupidity onto the forums?
The OP is talking about how he should stop ransoming because in the time it takes people to warp away with their stabs, he could have just destroyed them instead. He's fine with them fitting WCSs but it certainly limits who he can and can not ransom. If people are going to continue to fit WCSs then it only makes sense to gank them before they can leave and use bumping tactics to de-align them from warp. No time for ransoms.
Get off your soap box and train reading comprehension to level V.
LOL
LOL
Yeah. Oh, and this isn't an "alt" if by "alt" you mean a character that is an alternative to another, "main" character.
And no, I don't create characters for forum discussions. Nice try though.
Point of killing someone without a ransom demand? Sociopathy. Point of a sociopath demanding (or whining about not recieving) a ransom? None. Not having any point whatsoever in your trollish, overblown reply? Yup: priceless.
Why train a skill that you only need level 1 in to understand how pathetic whining wannabe pirates are? No thanks, I'll think I'll work on getting Warp Core Operation up - that way I can harass whining wannabe pirates by escaping with my Carebear Gear (and all my other gear, and my ISK, and my ship, oh - and my cargo, and my life...).
But thanks for the laugh.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:47:00 -
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Yeah. Oh, and this isn't an "alt" if by "alt" you mean a character that is an alternative to another, "main" character. blah blah blah.. blah blah blah
If that's really the best you've got, you might want to find another forum. Again you are not addressing the origonal concern posted by the OP but want to derail it from a misinformed view on your behalf. Review the post topic about what the thread is about, ransoms due to WCSs and not a nerf to WCSs.
Review your definition of sociopath. Someone who enjoys killing without ransoms fails to fall under the catagory of Sociopath because they see the wrong in their actions and enjoy it.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.14 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Edited by: Trepkos on 14/02/2006 00:35:45
Originally by: Lucas Garin
Edited by: Lucas Garin on 14/02/2006 00:25:09
Originally by: Trey Azagthoth
Maybe they think they can fight back or something, I dunno. Im just sick of getting them into structure, convoing for a ransom, then they say "1 sec, getting the ISK" and then just warp away.
"You are without doubt the worst pirate IÆve ever heard of."
You say that on the forums, but you would cry for your life if you met him in game, in space.
Meh you're only three monthes old, why bother.
umm
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Jaddor
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Posted - 2006.02.14 02:37:00 -
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If we got rid of stabs, we would get rid of most pirates too.
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.02.14 03:09:00 -
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the OP is upset that people are SACRAFICING setups in order to flee unwarrented aggression?
too bad, guess its up to those that practice the dark art of piracy to modify their approach to jumping the lone straggler.
the game gives everyone the same choices in modules, you cant have it both ways.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Voculus
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Posted - 2006.02.14 03:12:00 -
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Pirates run from other players, more than anyone else in any other profession. WCS is just a tool. They use it when it suits them, just as anyone else would.
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