These questions, if left unanswered have the very real potential to hurt CCP's bottom line.

tl;dr "all my previous threads about the 'skillpoint scandal' got locked, so here is yet another one."

(edit: I am starting to believe that you just want to punish us because someone ruined your Secret Santa scheme)

tl;dr "all my previous threads about the 'skillpoint scandal' got locked, so here is yet another one."

(edit: I am starting to believe that you just want to punish us because someone ruined your Secret Santa scheme)

I'm not quite sure what you mean by a secret santa scheme, however, your tl;dr is a gross oversimplification that represents the sort of complacency that is killing the sandbox.

My friends, let me be clear: this is not about one or two locked threads. This is about the bigger issues. This is about transparency and accountability.

I love this community, and I love this game. That being said, the community deserves better that what we've been given in recent months.

I'll be checking out Erotica 1's press conference later today. I understand that there will be new details released in regards to the skillpoints scandal. I hope to see certain actions taken by CCP reversed before the presser, as I imagine it will be embarassing for them, and that is the last thing I want to see.

My fellow players:

I have recently become concerned at the state of the sandbox. Certain actions taken by CCP employees have cast serious doubts upon its dedication to maintaining the freedom of sandbox style gameplay.

Instead of taking time to answer some questions that have emerged over the past week or so, ISD members have begun arbitrarily locking threads under false premises. Locking threads is not going to stop us from asking our legitimate questions about these happenings. We, as paying customers, hereby demand that our questions are answered.

These questions, if left unanswered have the very real potential to hurt CCP's bottom line. This is the last thing any of us want to see. We want to see a growing player-base, not a shrinking one. CCP's recent actions are nothing but damaging.

My fellow players, I implore you to demand transparency and accountability from CCP. I'm afraid our game won't survive another scandal-racked year such as this one.

In the wake of the SOMER Blink scandal, CCP owe the player base full transparency. What we have seen in recent days does not speak to a new age of transparency or accountability. Indeed, CCP seems to be quickly falling back into its old bad habits. For instance, CCP has so far ignored the emerging skillpoints scandal. What little acknowledgement there has been has come, unfortunately, in the form of threads on this topic being locked.

If this continues, the sandbox will slip away from us, and we will be forced to petition Sony, as CCP will go out of business. For CCP to turn its back on transparency and accountability is to turn its back to the player base.

We, as paying customers, hereby demand that our questions are answered.

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*snip

Seriously, you wouldn't demand answer like this from any other service provider, so you can pretty much get bent, I hope they never say a word, if you don't like the service you're being provided, seek greener pastures.

As another paying customer, I hereby demand you take your demands and stuff them up your butt. I want them up there deep too, don't half step, use force when inserting.

Seriously, you wouldn't demand answer like this from any other service provider, so you can pretty much get bent, I hope they never say a word, if you don't like the service you're being provided, seek greener pastures.

You don't seem to understand what a 'demand' is, in this context. It already implies what you think you're offering as a superior alternative, by implying: "fix this problem, or everyone supporting this petition will seek greener pastures."

Now, previous 'demands' by EVE players have shown that sometimes these demands are serious, and something they're just hot air, and the makers don't intend to quit if not addressed.

You also don't seem to understand the parallelism of the situation. since you are also a paying customer, a parallel demand would be for you to demand that CCP intensify their recent trend towards favoritism and secrecy. I would definitely like to see that one put up for a transparent vote by the playerbase; much more interested in that vote than any CSM vote, whatever voting system is used.

Your attempt at a humorous parallel 'demand' is nothing but a lame and predictable personal attack.

My fellow players:

I have recently become concerned at the state of the sandbox. Certain actions taken by CCP employees have cast serious doubts upon its dedication to maintaining the freedom of sandbox style gameplay.

Instead of taking time to answer some questions that have emerged over the past week or so, ISD members have begun arbitrarily locking threads under false premises. Locking threads is not going to stop us from asking our legitimate questions about these happenings. We, as paying customers, hereby demand that our questions are answered.

These questions, if left unanswered have the very real potential to hurt CCP's bottom line. This is the last thing any of us want to see. We want to see a growing player-base, not a shrinking one. CCP's recent actions are nothing but damaging.

My fellow players, I implore you to demand transparency and accountability from CCP. I'm afraid our game won't survive another scandal-racked year such as this one.

In the wake of the SOMER Blink scandal, CCP owe the player base full transparency. What we have seen in recent days does not speak to a new age of transparency or accountability. Indeed, CCP seems to be quickly falling back into its old bad habits. For instance, CCP has so far ignored the emerging skillpoints scandal. What little acknowledgement there has been has come, unfortunately, in the form of threads on this topic being locked.

If this continues, the sandbox will slip away from us, and we will be forced to petition Sony, as CCP will go out of business. For CCP to turn its back on transparency and accountability is to turn its back to the player base.

I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. I am, however, sure that you don't understand what you are getting at.

I would ask you to familiarize yourself with the details of the skillpoints scandal before entering into the discussion with an abstract and aloof argument that doesn't make a lot of sense, and is made from a position of ignorance.

Actually, when my ISP decided to screw up my service for a month, I demanded compensation. Guess what I received?

A month's worth of compensation.

What is so wrong with demanding answers to consistent favoritism?

What is so wrong with demanding answers as to why CCP decides to pick and choose who has to follow the rules, and who gets a free pass?

What is so wrong with expecting the transparency that the CEO of the company promised the playerbase, in an open letter to them?

Why is it that tear collectors tend to cry the loudest?

This ^

I think we're all forgetting the biggest issue here, and that is Erotica's scam room. There, they collect their victims, on the false promises of possible mass wealth. From here, they collect all their ISK and assets, make them sing silly songs for their twisted amusement, get them to mail pictures of themselves, and follow it up with them being podded over and over. Updated clones are not allowed, proving the whole point is to decimate their skillpoints. And the result? Cheated players, scammed of their wealth, assets, skillpoints and dignity. Personally, i feel this is massively worse than CCP reimbursing ONE PLAYER of the skillpoints there were scammed out of. The only reason they are making such a big deal out of this supposed "scandal" is that it effects their ongoing tear collection. This is dangerously close to online bullying, and i'm not surprised in the least that it could go on to have real-life effects, especially when actual photos of the scammed players in question are floated around the internet to laugh at, as they currently are.

Personally, i think this shameful scam has gone too far, and is far worse than the possibility of a single players EULA violation. Just how many other people are going to be directly effected, in the real world? Losing all your isk to a scam is one thing, and could even be considering to be part of EvE, but losing skillpoints is devastating. It's effectively losing the real-life money that went into the subscription time to acquire it, all for the amusement of a few individuals who ultimately profit from the entire event. And to top it off, your scammed face and badly sung song is floated between these tear-collectors, like a prize.

So, i ask you, capsuleers, just how far is too far? Perhaps they can get them to do live webcasts of themselves dancing semi-naked? Full on naked? Perhaps the final task in the room should be to biomass your main character? Because only "the faithful" truly have what it takes to become the next winner of Erotica's scam room.

This is completely off topic. Please stay on track.

I think we're all forgetting the biggest issue here...

This is dangerously close to online bullying

Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.

You have PL leadership in CODE, maybe you should leave PL if you are so mad about it?

Fortunately there is no such thing in EVE, and some would argue, in real life either.

We have a CSM for a reason, you are better off getting them to ask your questions and demand your petty demands because if they can't do it what makes you think a complete random subscriber can get these answers?

The more you try to drag someone into the spotlight unwillingly the more they will despise you or your group/leaders.

^This

You have PL leadership in CODE, maybe you should leave PL if you are so mad about it?

Grath is always mad... Its just the way he is.

He isn't showing any 'special' kind of mad towards this topic.

so does pl also have twelve CODEdot spies

so does pl also have twelve CODEdot spies

Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.

Seriously, this entire CODE corp seems to think that for 15 bucks a month they get to help run a small company in iceland, and its the the most laughably absurd thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Get

Over


Yourselves.

Hey,

I have yet to be asked anything about this, I think what E1 wants is face time and his/her/its 15 minutes of fame. Maybe as a run up for the election, maybe just because otherwise CODE will softly silently vanish away (one can hope).

Obviously locking threads merely causes more to be opened although I do think there are consequences for people who don't get subtle hints like continuous locking.

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You have PL leadership in CODE, maybe you should leave PL if you are so mad about it?

Simply saying something is true doesn't make it actually true, hope that helps, I would venture to guess that you can't even name who leads PL much less prove that they have any connection to your group.


I'm more apt to believe you have a live bevy of flying chimps keistered


BUT DO GO ON WITH YOUR STORIES

There are many other threads you can read and hear my stories. Other websites too.

No no, i want to hear about the PL leadership that you claim to have in your corp.

Otherwise you're an idiot and a liar

Simply saying something is true doesn't make it actually true, hope that helps, I would venture to guess that you can't even name who leads PL much less prove that they have any connection to your group.


I'm more apt to believe you have a live bevy of flying chimps keistered


BUT DO GO ON WITH YOUR STORIES

I apologized and corrected myself. Learn to read and get past your rage and tears.

There are many other threads you can read and hear my stories. Other websites too.

Your correction states you have PL leadership active in the New Order, still waiting on a who

Wouldn't it be a pretty massive violation of the new ToS to out a bunch of high profile individuals' alts like you are asking?

Haha, no it sure would not be a violation of the ToS, you're allowed to narc on people in EVE, its ok

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Given your rank on the **** pyramid, I would expect that the trouble would probably land on you, given that **** rolls down hill. Even in space.

Compliments aside, what makes you think it would serve our interests, or yours, by dropping names like that?

You don't have any names to drop do you?

We don't use our friends to make forum points to please you. I shouldn't have said anything, it's leading to drivel.

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