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Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 21	Posted - 2013.11.12 15:04:00 - [1] - Quote How did anyone ever think this could be a good idea? No, really. I have nothing against Ani, but this screams of someone wanting to be paid for doing next to nothing. If it was something CCP actually wanted as a feature, I'm sure they could just devhax a "cameraman" into a system and just start streaming. The "host" card can't be played, because (and again, I mean no offence) Ani's a pretty lack lustre host, with very narrow minded music choice (Whenever I've viewed his stream, I've muted it). It's not a job. It's a few minutes of someone's time.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 25	Posted - 2013.11.12 16:29:00 - [2] - Quote Tode Tuu wrote: Definitely getting a good chuckle out of this. Gets even better going into other streams and seeing ppl hate on Ani. 75 ppl watching Eve streams atm....ya.....CCP doesn't benefit from Ani's stream...../sarcasm off. Tell me more about how CCP will stop benefiting from Eve streams if Ani stopped.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 25	Posted - 2013.11.12 16:39:00 - [3] - Quote Tode Tuu wrote: Xaerael Endiel wrote: Tode Tuu wrote: Definitely getting a good chuckle out of this. Gets even better going into other streams and seeing ppl hate on Ani. 75 ppl watching Eve streams atm....ya.....CCP doesn't benefit from Ani's stream...../sarcasm off. Tell me more about how CCP will stop benefiting from Eve streams if Ani stopped. You could read the posts from the people that are playing Eve because of Ani's stream, or just ignore it. Your choice. Or how about the exposure Eve gets due to the rather large amount of ppl who frequent his stream, or just ignore it. Your choice. Lets think out of the box. For the people who have decided they don't like the stream, just ignore it. Your choice. Ani should come and say ty for all the free bumps. Are people watching the stream because of Ani, or because it's Eve? Like I say, Tell me more about how CCP will stop benefiting from Eve streams if Ani stopped. There's plenty of other (far better) Eve streamers out there.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 25	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:24:00 - [4] - Quote Tode, I don't want to dash your hopes, but I think Ani's only interested in women.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 25	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:47:00 - [5] - Quote Rodrik Vikary wrote: About the RMT you mention...if you mean the fact that he donates isk and plex to subscribers through raffles, it's true, he does that. But he also donates isk and plex to non-subscribers, I have seen it quite a few times. Never got any of them myself, but I know he does those. So if that is what you mean by RMT, I don't think it qualifies. About his stream being on Sub-Mode only, I was there when he did it. People were posting hate comments because of the anonymity of the internet and making the chat very unpleasant even for those who were watching like me, not only the streamer. So I agree that he should use Sub-Mode in this kind of situation. No, it's RMTing. This sort of stealth RMTing has already been tackled during somergate. If you pay for even a chance to get ISK (regardless of whether he give out ISK to non subbers) he's RMT dealing.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 25	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:19:00 - [6] - Quote Oh man, Tode, you're not on the same page. Hell, I don't even think we're reading the same book. Defending your crush is all fair and well, but do a little research? All the "ISK for x" junk got shut down weeks ago. CCP has stated that you can't offer ingame prizes/rewards for real money profit.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:54:00 - [7] - Quote Tode Tuu wrote: Fact: In less than an hour of Ani going live the amount of people watching Eve on Twitch has almost doubled. Must be making all the haters froth at the mouth. Yes, but how many are like me, watching out of anticipation for a potential imminent meltdown?
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 28	Posted - 2013.11.13 10:44:00 - [8] - Quote Shacheh wrote: Ryan526 wrote: I'm sure CCP has people who can do this way better than mad ani. If CCP wanted a 24 hour afk stream with music they would have one, they dont need ani. This is not a resume, and not how you apply for a job. The players don't decide who gets hired, that's CCP's job. I would still believe that players' opinions have weight in such decisions (application based on publicity). I don't think CCP sees streaming music/events directly related to their game. And 8000 concurrent viewers vs. 30 000-40 000 concurrent players online in EVE, it's quite an amount. Then again I believe a job application works better than forum posts but who knows! There's a saying, from whom I can't credit since I can't remember who said it, but it goes like this: "Never listen to what fans think you should do. 99% of fans are idiots. And never give fans what they want, because then they'll just keep asking for more." This is a classic case of this statement being true. No one truly impartial thinks this is a good idea, just Mad Ani's fans. There's literally dozens of reasons why CCP simply shouldn't do this. I'll copy paste some things I posted elsewhere on the subject.... Quote: In fact, if they were to hire him and let him continue doing what he's been doing, I suspect the amount of things he'll be allowed to stream will actually shrink significantly. CCP simply can't sanction an official "warzone intel" stream without an absolute uproar from the players. There's something wrong with the boy if he sees that as "OK" and a thing CCP should do. Quote: Well, in my mind, there's no way war stuff could be done live. Not even staging systems. Which means that everything would have to be posthumous and simply an un-interactive recap. Which could really be made to look far nicer if they simply took the killmail data for big events/turning points of a battle and made cutscene quality replays with a semi decent voice over. Now, that's a good idea to me. I've thought about it even more, and I'm confident to say that even an official stream of trade hub undocks would be deemed an "unfair advantage" against haulers, since it would allow gankers to see potential targets. Unofficial streams are fine because that's a PLAYER doing it, not a moderator/developer. If the supporters of this idea can't see what's wrong with it, they really don't understand the way Eve works. [edit] I'd like a job at CCP please. my name will be CCP_Commonsense.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 28	Posted - 2013.11.14 00:29:00 - [9] - Quote What I think a lot of people aren't realising is this is not only politically a bad move for CCP to do, and would cause a lot of friction between players and CCP in a year that's been fraught with problems already... it's most definitely a TERRIBLE financial one. No matter how generously I run the numbers, CCP loses money for paying someone to stream. Look, we get it. Mad Ani doesn't want a real job, and wants to sit at his PC all day with his feet up, playing horrible music to almost nobody, because most of the people who watch his stream mute it. Who wouldn't want a job like that?
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29	Posted - 2013.11.14 15:56:00 - [10] - Quote Wow, Mad Ani and his cohorts are breaking quite a few of those rules. Cleanup on isle ten!
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33	Posted - 2013.11.15 15:10:00 - [11] - Quote Tarex Badasaz wrote: Been watching mad ani since he started NICE GUY/GREAT TUNES/INFORMATIVE FOR PLAYERS NEW AND OLD/AND A GOOD COMMUNITY Shame all the good old TROLL DONKEYS are here making themselves look like ASSES +1 ANI -1 Forum trolls Nice Altposting. Shame you're confusing trolling with facts though.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:24:00 - [12] - Quote In before "Didn't want that job anyway". Ani, you've royally screwed yourself. Rule #1 when trying to blackmail and pressure a company into giving you a job is "sit back and let the whiteknights do the work for you". You were doing so well till the last day or so. EOTD, this is still a stupid idea, no matter how people try to slice it. You can't make a profitable job out of some nerd sat at a desk streaming dots moving around a screen. Anyone with a PC can do that AFK, and spend their time at work doing actual work. The only way I can imagine CCP ever does this is if they need to generate a tax sink. Vote for me as CCP_Commonsense. I'll save the company money, and stop bad ideas getting through the cracks.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:30:00 - [13] - Quote Attacking other players OOG in that way is clearly a sign Ani's emotionally unstable. That really isn't a good mix for a public face of CCP. PR disaster waiting to happen IMO.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33	Posted - 2013.11.16 11:49:00 - [14] - Quote MestariBation wrote: Xaerael Endiel wrote: Attacking other players OOG in that way is clearly a sign Ani's emotionally unstable. That really isn't a good mix for a public face of CCP. PR disaster waiting to happen IMO. Is it ok if he wears wizard hat? Only if he doesn't get paid for the job.
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 34	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:24:00 - [15] - Quote Hendrick Tallardar wrote: I have a question, why you would raid someone else's channel and tell people to mass report another streamer (yet again mind you) when that streamers viewers shared a link in your chat of a PVP fight going on. I mean if that's how you want to behave more power to ya girlfriend. http://puu.sh/5keZb.png Did the streamer link his stream in yours? Or was it his viewers? You'd need to provide proof of the former as that is, as you said, against the TOS, but if you lack the evidence then you're just needlessly being melodramatic. Monkey see, monkey do, remember? People have been reporting his stream for stuff, so now he's pulling random reasons to report other people's streams out the air and reporting them/getting his whiteknight zergsquad to report them. In before "Wahhh, other people were reporting".
Xaerael Endiel GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 34	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:14:00 - [16] - Quote Also calling for this thread to be locked and preserved as a warning to future generations. At best, this thing is a poor exercise in how to ask for a job. At worst, it's socially irresponsible, and tantamount to bullying and blackmailing. Lock.

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