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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.02.14 19:53:00 -
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kestrel da best frigy
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Paradisio16
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Posted - 2006.02.14 19:53:00 -
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I'm a caldari, and I just started playing a couple of days ago. I wanted to be more combat specific, but the only reccomendation I could get on my first ship is the condor, which most of the people on these forums seem to disagree with. Any advice? (Sorry, I'm sure there is a topic but this forum doesn't seem to have a search function)
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:26:00 -
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you're probably running missions or killing belt rats..
If you are. Condors are a good place to start then move up to a merlin.
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Waenn Ironstaff
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:31:00 -
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How does a Merlin compare to a Kestrel? When I moved from my Bantam, I chose the Merlin since description said it was among the best frigates out there...
Kestrel any good? :)
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Adoran Wa'alle
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Waenn Ironstaff How does a Merlin compare to a Kestrel? When I moved from my Bantam, I chose the Merlin since description said it was among the best frigates out there...
Kestrel any good? :)
I'm a big kessie fan, but I'd say that it's more of a PvP ship. People might disagree with me here, though. So it depends really. Kessie is a great frig for PvP.  ------------------------------------- Please violate this sig. I feel like an outsider  |

Paradisio16
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:25:00 -
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Honostly, I don't even know where to pvp, so I'm not terribly worried... more looking for PVE vessels.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter kestrel da best frigy
Burn in hell.... Tristan ftw! ---------------------------
Originally by: Wrangler I see boobies!! \o/
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Paradisio16
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:38:00 -
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what is a MWD?
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Paradisio16 what is a MWD?
Microwarpdrive. Comes in three sizes: 1MN, 10MN and 100MN. For frigs, cruisers and battleships respectively. It's the afterburner's big brother with a signature radius and maximum capacitor penalty due to it's massive velocity bonus.
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Marduk Starkiller
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:47:00 -
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If you're going for lvl 1 missions, i'd say Kestrel is a little better. Does really nice damage, has no problems tanking the damage in lvl 1s and it has a really nice cargo hold so you can collect all the crap rats drop :) Plus you won't have to train for both hybrids and missiles for now.
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Paradisio16
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Posted - 2006.02.14 23:04:00 -
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On the other hand, if I want to mine what ship should I get (Osprey has too many skills right now)?
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Xio2
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Posted - 2006.02.14 23:13:00 -
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Here's antoher way to look at it.
Kestrel- if you want to use missile skills Merlin- if you want to bastardize and do missiles and guns, has better tanking than the kestrel Bantam-i guess its the mining frig..I really hate the ship though Condor- a shuttle that can fit a mwd
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Paradisio16
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Posted - 2006.02.14 23:29:00 -
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Im not using a condor because I like it more, I'm using it because I dont have the frigate skill to use merlin or kerstel.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.02.14 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter kestrel da best frigy
Burn in hell.... Tristan ftw!
tristan 4TL
 
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JEBIV
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Posted - 2006.02.14 23:41:00 -
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I'm at this same spot. Driving a Condor and liking the off distance punch of the missiles aswell as the speed. Considering Kestrel next but curious why no one mentions the Destroyer? Is it worth it or do most skip right to cruisers?
Where can I find a consolidated list of what goes into med and Lo slots? Can't find the slot assignment under show info.
Bonus question: is it possible to target multiples at same time and shoot missiles at each?
Thanks JEBIV
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rogue agent
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Posted - 2006.02.15 11:19:00 -
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crap wrong person i used alt there
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superbabe2005
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Posted - 2006.02.15 11:19:00 -
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what should i get then  Info Attributes Charactername rogue agent Intelligence 13 Corporation The Scope Perception 8 Total Cash 2,129,797 ISK Charisma 9 Total skill points 3,378,051 Willpower 7 XML DATA Memory 16
Anchoring / Rank 3 / SP: 750 of 4243 Corporation Management / Rank 1 / SP: 1415 of 8000 +2 Corporation Management skills trained, for a total of 2,165 skillPoints.
Drones / Rank 1 / SP: 45255 of 256000 Mining Drone Operation / Rank 2 / SP: 2829 of 16000 Scout Drone Operation / Rank 1 / SP: 26920 of 45255 +3 Drones skills trained, for a total of 75,004 skillPoints.
Electronic Warfare / Rank 2 / SP: 1170 of 2829 Electronics / Rank 1 / SP: 34468 of 45255 Electronics Upgrades / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 Long Range Targeting / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 Propulsion Jamming / Rank 3 / SP: 750 of 4243 Target Painting / Rank 3 / SP: 750 of 4243 Targeting / Rank 1 / SP: 2969 of 8000 +7 Electronics skills trained, for a total of 41,107 skillPoints.
Energy Emission Systems / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 Energy Grid Upgrades / Rank 2 / SP: 2829 of 16000 Energy Pulse Weapons / Rank 2 / SP: 10225 of 16000 Energy Systems Operation / Rank 1 / SP: 1418 of 8000 Engineering / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 Shield Emission Systems / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 Shield Operation / Rank 1 / SP: 1415 of 8000 Shield Upgrades / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 Tactical Shield Manipulation / Rank 4 / SP: 2130 of 5657 +9 Engineering skills trained, for a total of 275,517 skillPoints.
Gunnery / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 Medium Energy Turret / Rank 3 / SP: 751 of 4243 +Currently training to: level 2 +Time left: 4 hours, 2 minutes, 26 seconds +SP done: 425 of 3492 Medium Projectile Turret / Rank 3 / SP: 4243 of 24000 Motion Prediction / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 Rapid Firing / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 Sharpshooter / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 Small Energy Turret / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 Small Hybrid Turret / Rank 1 / SP: 1415 of 8000 Small Projectile Turret / Rank 1 / SP: 45255 of 256000 +9 Gunnery skills trained, for a total of 317,164 skillPoints.
Industry / Rank 1 / SP: 6353 of 8000 Mining / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 Refining / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 +3 Industry skills trained, for a total of 22,353 skillPoints.
Analytical Mind / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 Instant Recall / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 Learning / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 +3 Learning skills trained, for a total of 768,000 skillPoints.
Hull Upgrades / Rank 2 / SP: 570 of 2829 Mechanic / Rank 1 / SP: 1419 of 8000 +2 Mechanic skills trained, for a total of 1,989 skillPoints.
Defender Missiles / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 FoF Missiles / Rank 3 / SP: 750 of 4243 Heavy Missiles / Rank 3 / SP: 2431 of 4243 Missile Launcher Operation / Rank 1 / SP: 21399 of 45255 Rockets / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 Standard Missiles / Rank 2 / SP: 239570 of 512000 +6 Missile Launcher Operation skills trained, for a total of 272,650 skillPoints.
Afterburner / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 Evasive Maneuvering / Rank 2 / SP: 1530 of 2829 High Speed Maneuvering / Rank 5 / SP: 19453 of 40000 Navigation / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 +4 Navigation skills trained, for a total of 532,983 skillPoints.
Cybernetics / Rank 3 / SP: 4243 of 24000 Science / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 +2 Science skills trained, for a total of 12,243 skillPoints.
Social / Rank 1 / SP: 31 of 250 +1 Social skills trained, for a total of 31 skillPoints.
Amarr Frigate / Rank 2 / SP: 16000 of 90510 Amarr Industrial / Rank 4 / SP: 1000 of 5657 Battlecruisers / Rank 6 / SP: 8486 of 48000 Caldari Frigate / Rank 2 / SP: 18939 of 90510 Destroyers / Rank 2 / SP: 827 of 2829 Gallente Cruiser / Rank 5 / SP: 221936 of 226275 Gallente Frigate / Rank 2 / SP: 512000 of 512000 Gallente Industrial / Rank 4 / SP: 5657 of 32000 Minmatar Frigate / Rank 2 / SP: 16000 of 90510 Spaceship Command / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 +10 Spaceship Command skills trained, for a total of 1,056,845 skillPoints.
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Naxie
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Posted - 2006.02.15 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Paradisio16 I'm a caldari, and I just started playing a couple of days ago. I wanted to be more combat specific, but the only reccomendation I could get on my first ship is the condor, which most of the people on these forums seem to disagree with. Any advice? (Sorry, I'm sure there is a topic but this forum doesn't seem to have a search function)
Personally, I went for the Merlin and am glad of it. Is a great versatile ships with enough slots to allow you to play with all sorts of setups and learn slotting.
If you are interested in Assault Frigates later down the line, then Merlin good to get comfortable in ahead of that. The frigates are so cheap though, you should own all of them to learn about them and see what your preferred style is. Good luck.
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