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GC13
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Posted - 2006.02.15 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: GC13 on 15/02/2006 03:08:33
Every player organization in Eve is currently called a corporation. Now, this sounds like the kind of thing that has to have been thought about before, but why not allow an organization to be called different things to indicate its intended play style?
Groups with a goal of financial prosperity can signal this by calling themselves a corporation. Groups that just want to have a chat room and perhaps occasionally help each other out can call themselves guilds. Tight-knit groups of friends with whatever goal can call themselves clans. Perhaps change the default name to "organization," and have that indicate that it's just a run-of-the-mill group (though I'd like to think that every organization would be rather close to one of the three specific philosphies).
Not really a serious suggestion. Just something I thought of and wondered if other people would find it to be neat too.
EDIT: Just to clarify, if I implented this, there would probably be a select box where the leader (would only call them CEO for a corporation, methinks) got to choose one of the four categories for your group, and your choice would be visibile in the Attributes page.
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.02.15 03:20:00 -
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It makes sense. You'd expect a group of pirates to call them selves a gang. A group that plays as mercenaries as.. well.. mercenaries. and so on. A group that does nothing but mine and refine as a guild. A group that builds ships mainly as a Corp and so on.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.02.15 03:25:00 -
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Guilds have me thinking sweaty gnome cobblers...
Remind me about The Maze.
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Lucas Seraphim
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Posted - 2006.02.15 03:55:00 -
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My name is Lucas, and I support this idea.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.15 04:00:00 -
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Guild is a synonym for corporation. It's what they used to be called.
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Xio2
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Posted - 2006.02.15 04:30:00 -
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Yeah...I find myself giggling at "freelancer corperations" hehe. I wonder how many "freelancers" IBM, Microshaft, Kraft (gotta love that Chef Boyarde haha..i butchered that one) or even CCP (dev's being bought out hehe) has.
Haha..Im just kidding about the CCP thing  But considering how much a t2 bpo would sell for on eBay...now that's real power lol. sorry..off topic.
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GC13
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Posted - 2006.02.15 06:13:00 -
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*cheer*
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Jorak Falconstar
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Posted - 2006.02.15 10:49:00 -
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I guess you could also throw something like Social Club into that list of options.
but yes i think it would add a little spice, that way Merc groups could list themselves as Milita or a similar term.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.15 10:55:00 -
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Adding guilds to EVE will set the stage for an invasion of night elves, gnomes, and Tauren.
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Failin Zhar
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Posted - 2006.02.15 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Failin Zhar on 15/02/2006 11:04:45
 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Adding guilds to EVE will set the stage for an invasion of night elves, gnomes, and Tauren.
Agreed. Guild doesn't originally mean "fantasy group of people grinding pink gnomes" but the word has been so intimately connected with fantasy games that it sickens me. No guilds in EVE, thank you. Yes, I'm really sick of fantasy games...played one and you've played all.
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We could use other terms ofcourse, paramilitary group, citizen militia and others.
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Jinx Barker
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Posted - 2006.02.15 11:15:00 -
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Guild & associated words:
Association
Firm
Conglomerate
League
Confederacy
Confederation
Federation
Coalition
Partnership
Enterprise
Union
Club
Society
Company
Concern
Corporation
So, it wouldnt hurt removing ubiquitous "corporation" word.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.02.15 11:17:00 -
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Corp is just a term used to describe a set of game mechanics.
If you want to belong to a guild instead of a corp, there's nothing stopping you from calling your corp "The Amalgamated Guild of Scordite Miners" or something similar.
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GC13
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Posted - 2006.02.15 14:46:00 -
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It's not "really wanting to belong to a guild as much as" thinking "wow, these guys act like a guild, yet their organization is called a corporation." And then you'd have every freelancer corp having to put the word "guild" in their name. May work in real life, but cramps people's styles in a game.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.02.15 15:16:00 -
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Sounds like an interesting idea, but I'm more of a fan of consistency. Imagine a new player looking for a guild but being told guild suck and they should join a gang, or a corporation, or a fellowship, or etc?
How about leave it like it is, with players banding together to create a "Corporation" but allowing for a secondary classification to be selected from a predefined list, adn that classification is visible in the corp's info window. That way, someone researching corps to join can at least get that initial classification to further describe what they're looking for.
Also, a listing could be provided that lets users query up corps in those classifications. Looking for industry corps? Look up Unions. That kind of thing.
Hope that made some kind of sense, I'm going on zero coffee today. :(
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GC13
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Posted - 2006.02.15 18:03:00 -
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Makes perfect sense to me!
I do thing having "organizational philosophy" and "primary focus" on the attributes page would help a lot (assuming they were truthful!) in getting recruits who wanted to be there. Sure, you can put it in the description, but for some reason a lot of people don't.
Oh well. Just fun to keep floating ideas. 
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.02.15 18:10:00 -
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Nice idea
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Gator McKlusky
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Posted - 2006.02.15 18:17:00 -
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Sounds ghey to me.
/me goes to People and Places, and changes search type to Association
Firm
Conglomerate
League
Confederacy
Confederation
Federation
Coalition
Partnership
Enterprise
Union
Club
Society
Company
Concern
Corporation
Ohhhnoooes i can't find a association of persons of the same trade or pursuits, formed to protect mutual interests and maintain standards because I don't know whether they are a Firm, Conglomerate, League, Confederacy, Confederation, Federation, Coalition, Partnership, Enterprise, Union, Club, Society, Company, Concern or Corporation.
/me thinks waste of time
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Lienzo
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Posted - 2006.02.15 21:03:00 -
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I'm ok with corporations.
However, the word "Alliance" is questionable. I would think other meta organizations might be a Trust or something else.
Perhaps if the associations in the game become more complex, we will see more parallel affiliations after contracts systems. It would be quite a feat if these could also be non-hierarchical systems, and didn't conform precisely to make the war system convenient.
I like the idea of internal dissent within networks, rival municipalities within nations, that sort of thing. I like the idea that any action might lead to indirect consequences that might be unfavorable and endless intrigue.
In some ways, the systems of identification are so simple at the moment, that conflict scenarios have to be made easy to avoid, because they are so simple to enact.
In some ways "clans" seem more appropriate given peoples' motivations for their behavior, but corporations seems to invite a notion of people looking to their own interests and cooperating only when it is profitable to do so. Corporation reflects a darker, more compelling storyline. I like the idea of a project that would succeed with an impersonal corporate environment, but it just hasn't been achieved yet using available tools given the legal power of the clanists to exercise their advantages.
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Turia
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Posted - 2006.02.15 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xio2
Yeah...I find myself giggling at "freelancer corperations" hehe. I wonder how many "freelancers" IBM, Microshaft, Kraft (gotta love that Chef Boyarde haha..i butchered that one) or even CCP (dev's being bought out hehe) has.
Haha..Im just kidding about the CCP thing But considering how much a t2 bpo would sell for on eBay...now that's real power lol. sorry..off topic.
I can't speak for Kraft or CCP, but IBM and Microsoft have plenty of "freelancers".
They're generally called consultants. 
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Swamp Ziro
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Posted - 2006.02.15 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 15/02/2006 21:30:54
Edited by: Swamp Ziro on 15/02/2006 21:28:44
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Adding guilds to EVE will set the stage for an invasion of night elves, gnomes, and Tauren.
Tinfoil hat? :D
It could also set the stage for an invasion of space navigators that depend on perception-altering drugs to navigate at light-speed velocities, who would proceed to create a vastly powerful monopoly on space transport.
( "THE" Guild, if i have to spell it out)
Nor having "Syndicates" will bring about 4-man squads of bio-engineered minigun wielding troopers set on the destruction of the church of the new epoch.
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Pondor Stibbons
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Posted - 2006.02.15 21:33:00 -
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but being in a corp of 2 , we like it the word corporation as it makes us sound BIG
wanna be in my gang do you mr?
makes it sound dirty.....
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GC13
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Posted - 2006.02.16 00:16:00 -
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Well, I'm glad that most people (with the exception if a few smart ***es who think that just because you take one step in a direction means you have to start running) think it's a reasonable idea.
Now all we have to do is start sacrificing goats and hope CCP does it. 
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.16 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 16/02/2006 00:24:27
Originally by: Swamp Ziro
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Adding guilds to EVE will set the stage for an invasion of night elves, gnomes, and Tauren.
Tinfoil hat? :D
It could also set the stage for an invasion of space navigators that depend on perception-altering drugs to navigate at light-speed velocities, who would proceed to create a vastly powerful monopoly on space transport.
( "THE" Guild, if i have to spell it out)
It could also set the stage for a powerful technology-hoarding race that rents out antigravity units to lesser civilizations to become our overlords, while conducting weird rituals in their airborne fortresses ruled by their evil leader. They of course will be called the GUILD.
Or I could be watching too much Last Exile.
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<3 Tachikomas -Eldo
But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler
I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde
You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes
Immy > You All - Imaran
Tachikomas > All ~kieron
POKEMON -eris
Jacques was 'ere
Capsicum still is | Jorauk was, but got hungry and left
Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang |
Fooball
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Posted - 2006.02.18 12:17:00 -
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Sound fair to me, although some of the names bring strong images.. Clans == 13yo drooling kids playing Counter-Strike. Guilds == 13yo drooling kids running the half-naked elven women around in lingerie in the forests. (Although some parts of that are appealing to all healthy male humans)
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swamp zyro
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Posted - 2006.02.18 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 16/02/2006 00:24:27
Originally by: Swamp Ziro
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Adding guilds to EVE will set the stage for an invasion of night elves, gnomes, and Tauren.
Tinfoil hat? :D
It could also set the stage for an invasion of space navigators that depend on perception-altering drugs to navigate at light-speed velocities, who would proceed to create a vastly powerful monopoly on space transport.
( "THE" Guild, if i have to spell it out)
It could also set the stage for a powerful technology-hoarding race that rents out antigravity units to lesser civilizations to become our overlords, while conducting weird rituals in their airborne fortresses ruled by their evil leader. They of course will be called the GUILD.
Or I could be watching too much Last Exile.
There is no such thing as too much Last Exile ^_^
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.18 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: swamp zyro
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 16/02/2006 00:24:27
Originally by: Swamp Ziro
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Adding guilds to EVE will set the stage for an invasion of night elves, gnomes, and Tauren.
Tinfoil hat? :D
It could also set the stage for an invasion of space navigators that depend on perception-altering drugs to navigate at light-speed velocities, who would proceed to create a vastly powerful monopoly on space transport.
( "THE" Guild, if i have to spell it out)
It could also set the stage for a powerful technology-hoarding race that rents out antigravity units to lesser civilizations to become our overlords, while conducting weird rituals in their airborne fortresses ruled by their evil leader. They of course will be called the GUILD.
Or I could be watching too much Last Exile.
There is no such thing as too much Last Exile ^_^
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Proud member of the [23].
The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
<3 Tachikomas -Eldo
But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler
I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde
You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes
Immy > You All - Imaran
Tachikomas > All ~kieron
POKEMON -eris
Jacques was 'ere
Capsicum still is | Jorauk was, but got hungry and left
Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Limited to 4 posts per day - Cortes |
Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.18 15:58:00 -
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Corps shoukld never, ever, EVER be called guilds.
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Eldo Davip
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Posted - 2006.02.18 16:18:00 -
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OK dont make it more complicated than it is!
Vanamonde was here
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