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pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:22:00 - [1] Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. not sure any current alliance claims to be pirate.. we pvp with goals, both long term and short term.. Skipping past that.. no good pilot is ever without a home for long (unless he wants it that way ofc) I've seen quite a few PA pilots joining BOB.. would you have thought this would ever happen 6mths to 1 year ago? others joined other pvp groups, some formed small corps of their own.. As for a new alliance, i rather doubt 1 will come directly from this.. personnally i think ppl need to move on, find their feet and look for new goals.. the current PA is a perfect example of why.. They limbed on after the GNW, without any real PVP strength.. How do you inspire the good vet pvp'ers that you need, to join and revitalise a defeated alliance? how many vet pvpers actually need access to 0.0 to be given to them? PA Salesman: "hi, Join us.. you can come shoot [5]" PVP'er: "I can do that already.. why do need your dead weight to do that?" I think you need to inspire the best pvp'ers with long term goals, not short term ones.. Some Corp Quit and Some come... part of EvE. Same Thing Happend to .5. Some member join BoB what we can do.... nothing 1 thing that is Sure is this SolidLine will fight Five always even if we lose our space i don t care. F-E will Die that Sure too. KAOS they never learn they will die too. PA and NBSI no need to say we are dead.... But KAOS and FE did see some GHOST Ship hitting them hardly..... ours Space will be hard to be take. that why F-E and KAOS need ATUK Capital Ship to help them.... like ATUK told in local 1 time .5. is Nothing without ATUK..... BTW ATUK talking about corp leaving your alliance was the first one to lose Founding corp..... Smack me i don t care...... Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:41:00 - [2] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: pacifica Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. not sure any current alliance claims to be pirate.. we pvp with goals, both long term and short term.. Skipping past that.. no good pilot is ever without a home for long (unless he wants it that way ofc) I've seen quite a few PA pilots joining BOB.. would you have thought this would ever happen 6mths to 1 year ago? others joined other pvp groups, some formed small corps of their own.. As for a new alliance, i rather doubt 1 will come directly from this.. personnally i think ppl need to move on, find their feet and look for new goals.. the current PA is a perfect example of why.. They limbed on after the GNW, without any real PVP strength.. How do you inspire the good vet pvp'ers that you need, to join and revitalise a defeated alliance? how many vet pvpers actually need access to 0.0 to be given to them? PA Salesman: "hi, Join us.. you can come shoot [5]" PVP'er: "I can do that already.. why do need your dead weight to do that?" I think you need to inspire the best pvp'ers with long term goals, not short term ones.. Some Corp Quit and Some come... part of EvE. Same Thing Happend to .5. Some member join BoB what we can do.... nothing 1 thing that is Sure is this SolidLine will fight Five always even if we lose our space i don t care. F-E will Die that Sure too. KAOS they never learn they will die too. PA and NBSI no need to say we are dead.... But KAOS and FE did see some GHOST Ship hitting them hardly..... ours Space will be hard to be take. that why F-E and KAOS need ATUK Capital Ship to help them.... like ATUK told in local 1 time .5. is Nothing without ATUK..... BTW ATUK talking about corp leaving your alliance was the first one to lose Founding corp..... Smack me i don t care...... PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts Look who talk you join your corp and your alliance cause you want to find the I WIN BUTTON . I m uber i m in BoB.... lol the real challenge is this Fighting better then u. that how we learn. Don t worry BoB alliance is on my What to do next list. But ATM my WHAT to Do LIST is pretty fill BoB is pending atm.... Soon will be on u Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:50:00 - [3] Originally by: Lilan Kahn lol you bitter bitter littel man, every tryed geting spamed on msn, irc and ingame abut "join us mate we need you" also i was there helping pa vs every one else in TPS, where was Pa oh you know hideing in empire, we came to help PA never bothered to talk with us so just shut up you have no clue silly pa nubbie BTW every Alliance in Game change every 6 mounth.... new ppl new corp new idee... ATM PA o help their friend i Know i m in PA i m always moving lol. PA did make mistake we are humain we are not perfect... Sorry but at lease we say when we make mistake we admit it... Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:53:00 - [4] Originally by: Brisi Edited by: Brisi on 15/02/2006 15:52:00 PA, NBSI and F-E, .5., whatever, will be destroyed sooner or later (from war, or from internal problems), then new alliances with new friends will arise, though it will contain the same corps as the old alliances had. Such is the way it has always been in EVE, and thus it will continue. Agree :) Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 21:04:00 - [5] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: pacifica Don t worry BoB alliance is on my What to do next list. But ATM my WHAT to Do LIST is pretty fill BoB is pending atm.... Soon will be on u Is that like when you were in Imperium and were going to destroy us right before we ripped your alliance a new one, took your region and booted you out of 0.0 space.... immediately prior to you running away as far as possible from us and joining PA? I don't think we'll be awfully worried about being on your to do list to be honest. Best of luck at not ditching PA and doing a runner though, you seem to be doing ok so far I give u a HighLight Blacklight we didn t leave Imperium we was Kick. I refuse to kick 1 mate that why BTW. Before Talking to much u should get information about what u talk Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:12:00 - [6] It easy to put the Blame on PA and NBSI... every thing was ok Until this thing... and Now pls take time to read. F-E was willing to Make PA and NBSI merge under F-E. We all refuse we didn t see why we was needed to merge when we was sharing space and stuff. So we refuse. Then the communaction start to be very bad.. My corp got banned in Tribute... and so on Now i ask any alliance to put their self in this situation You got your Allied that ask u help But 1 thing he didn t say to u is THIS WE ALOWED 2 OR 3 CORP THAT WILL KILL U IN OUR SPACE AND THEY CAN DOCK. So we did try to go help.. 1 of my mate see a KIA lol in a interceptor... he got the idee to follow him and try to gank him.... Surprize KIA dock and undock in a Battleship.... my mate run lol... now get real F-E did make u Belive we didn t try to help.... and u fall in that... It hard to help some one that plan to backstab u. Get the real Story.. I was on my friend TS when FE leader Jump and ask help i offer them my help they accept it. when i jump on their ts 1 persone say we need help to do this and then Pers jump in the room and say f*** U PACIFICA and i got baned..... explain me why..... So if u want to know the story listen top both Side before saying 1 is true..... FE and KAOS was turning around the Jar they wasn t able to go strait at the point... you call them honest not really KAOS even convo me 2 day before FE make their CHOICE.. here the convo.... --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: 2104957794 Channel Name: Group Chat (ANN S, Ysabelle nKataros) Listener: pacifica Session started: 2006.01.26 00:39:30 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2006.01.26 00:39:30 ] ANN S > you convo him [ 2006.01.26 00:39:36 ] Ysabelle nKataros > hi [ 2006.01.26 00:39:50 ] ANN S > cya ysabelle be safe [ 2006.01.26 00:39:50 ] pacifica > hi [ 2006.01.26 00:39:54 ] pacifica > whats up [ 2006.01.26 00:40:11 ] Ysabelle nKataros > do I understand you've been delivered an ultimatum by The Five? [ 2006.01.26 00:40:19 ] Ysabelle nKataros > to leave Venal/Branch? [ 2006.01.26 00:40:25 ] pacifica > when [ 2006.01.26 00:40:33 ] pacifica > lol [ 2006.01.26 00:40:43 ] pacifica > we will not move we will fight them [ 2006.01.26 00:41:14 ] pacifica > the problem atm it h-pa we can t fight their the lagg is too much when u are in fleet [ 2006.01.26 00:41:44 ] Ysabelle nKataros > how far can you speak for the alliance as a whole? [ 2006.01.26 00:41:47 ] pacifica > we lost a pos cause for 24hrs we wasn t able to get inside GM move us 20 jump back [ 2006.01.26 00:41:58 ] pacifica > i can speak loud [ 2006.01.26 00:42:25 ] pacifica > i m not the leader but we share the same thing [ 2006.01.26 00:43:07 ] pacifica > why [ 2006.01.26 00:43:13 ] Ysabelle nKataros > ok. And does PA believe that it can reclaim Venal on its own? Without any assistance from FE? [ 2006.01.26 00:43:32 ] pacifica > we will go help FE for sure [ 2006.01.26 00:43:44 ] pacifica > venal it a question of time [ 2006.01.26 00:43:48 ] pacifica > atuk only hold h-pa [ 2006.01.26 00:43:55 ] pacifica > they can t go some where else [ 2006.01.26 00:43:56 ] Ysabelle nKataros > that's not what I'm saying... would you be able to beat 5 without FE? [ 2006.01.26 00:44:36 ] pacifica > we fight 5 every day [ 2006.01.26 00:44:49 ] pacifica > it will be ard task to beat them [ 2006.01.26 00:44:53 ] pacifica > hard* [ 2006.01.26 00:45:09 ] pacifica > cause when you stuck them in a system they log off and log their alt [ 2006.01.26 00:45:15 ] pacifica > so it hard [ 2006.01.26 00:45:32 ] Ysabelle nKataros > yes 1 of 2 Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:14:00 - [7] 01.26 00:45:15 ] pacifica > so it hard [ 2006.01.26 00:45:32 ] Ysabelle nKataros > yes [ 2006.01.26 00:45:33 ] pacifica > fleet in h-pa is not a option [ 2006.01.26 00:45:44 ] pacifica > you will lose your fleet due to lag [ 2006.01.26 00:45:58 ] pacifica > they have 1 advantage [ 2006.01.26 00:46:08 ] pacifica > they sleep in h-pa they got position [ 2006.01.26 00:46:20 ] pacifica > you cannot jump in the system [ 2006.01.26 00:46:26 ] pacifica > if u do [ 2006.01.26 00:46:29 ] Ysabelle nKataros > heh, I know [ 2006.01.26 00:46:39 ] Ysabelle nKataros > I've fought them there [ 2006.01.26 00:46:46 ] pacifica > i hate h-pa [ 2006.01.26 00:46:59 ] pacifica > for that the node is connected with a busy empire system [ 2006.01.26 00:47:17 ] pacifica > so as soon local fill up over 120 it finish [ 2006.01.26 00:48:00 ] pacifica > pa will get back their space soon it a question of time [ 2006.01.26 00:48:21 ] Ysabelle nKataros > I understand [ 2006.01.26 00:48:34 ] Ysabelle nKataros > I need to speak to some other people, thanks for your time. [ 2006.01.26 00:48:41 ] pacifica > why [ 2006.01.26 00:48:50 ] pacifica > what your plan [ 2006.01.26 00:49:33 ] Ysabelle nKataros > well it involves killing The Five, that's all I can say for the moment :P [ 2006.01.26 00:49:33 ] pacifica > i tell u the name [ 2006.01.26 00:49:45 ] Ysabelle nKataros > the name of what? [ 2006.01.26 00:49:49 ] pacifica > el covah [ 2006.01.26 00:49:56 ] pacifica > or pedro [ 2006.01.26 00:50:03 ] pacifica > pedroftw [ 2006.01.26 00:50:39 ] pacifica > they are not online atm [ 2006.01.26 00:50:56 ] Ysabelle nKataros > what do I need the names for? [ 2006.01.26 00:51:07 ] pacifica > they are PA leader [ 2006.01.26 00:51:20 ] pacifica > ok i will be straut [ 2006.01.26 00:51:27 ] pacifica > you want venal for your alliance [ 2006.01.26 00:51:39 ] pacifica > i m fair talk atm [ 2006.01.26 00:51:46 ] pacifica > we will nt turn aroun [ 2006.01.26 00:52:07 ] pacifica > is this why u want to talk to a pa leader [ 2006.01.26 00:52:17 ] Ysabelle nKataros > not really [ 2006.01.26 00:52:21 ] pacifica > ok [ 2006.01.26 00:52:30 ] pacifica > i m starit atm lol [ 2006.01.26 00:52:39 ] Ysabelle nKataros > starit? [ 2006.01.26 00:52:48 ] pacifica > i speak bad english [ 2006.01.26 00:52:52 ] pacifica > sorry [ 2006.01.26 00:53:00 ] pacifica > strait [ 2006.01.26 00:53:06 ] Ysabelle nKataros > ah thanks [ 2006.01.26 00:53:10 ] pacifica > or talk fair without big turn [ 2006.01.26 00:53:37 ] pacifica > atm FE will need help i think [ 2006.01.26 00:53:43 ] pacifica > i hate atuk [ 2006.01.26 00:54:21 ] Ysabelle nKataros > we've got that in common ;-) [ 2006.01.26 00:54:27 ] Ysabelle nKataros > I have to go find some other people now [ 2006.01.26 00:55:07 ] pacifica > but can i know your plan [ 2006.01.26 00:55:08 ] Ysabelle nKataros > thanks for helping me [ 2006.01.26 00:55:21 ] Ysabelle nKataros > it's too up in the air [ 2006.01.26 00:55:35 ] Ysabelle nKataros > we haven't made any decisions so it'd be kind of pointless telling you anything [ 2006.01.26 00:55:51 ] pacifica > just give me a clue [ 2006.01.26 00:55:53 ] Ysabelle nKataros > suffice to say that currently we're rolling with FE [ 2006.01.26 00:56:00 ] Ysabelle nKataros > what FE wants, we want. [ 2006.01.26 00:56:07 ] pacifica > what FE want atm [ 2006.01.26 00:56:08 ] pacifica > venal [ 2006.01.26 00:56:13 ] pacifica > branch [ 2006.01.26 00:56:15 ] pacifica > tenal [ 2006.01.26 00:56:19 ] pacifica > pa merge [ 2006.01.26 00:56:24 ] pacifica > no way [ 2006.01.26 00:57:47 ] Ysabelle nKataros > ok, thanks for letting me know that [ 2006.01.26 00:58:42 ] Ysabelle nKataros > other convos. Thanks again for your time. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:32:00 - [8] Edited by: pacifica on 15/02/2006 22:34:27 even lag on forum Double POST Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:32:00 - [9] Originally by: Metal Dude I find it amusing that FE/PA/NBSI are bickering with each other about whoÆs to blame for all their troubles. You were so quick to declare war on [5] when RA(T) was telling you that we were all but dead and then when we came to your shoot you in your space, RA(T) was nowhere to be found to help you, like you helped them in our space. So technically, all of you did the dirty work for RA(T) and took the heat from us because RA(T) fooled you in to this war. If anybody is to blame for your troubles, itÆs RA(T). Then again, IÆm sure they will allow you to be their mining slaves if you ask them nicely. Not Really Red Alliance didn t ask us to war deck u.. i was on the meeting for that war.... was a idee OF 3 ALLIANCE all WILLING to do IT.... F-E,PA & NBSI At lease i m Proud of PA & NBSI.. We refuse the offer to cancel war FE accepted We refuse To NAP u FE did accept look at the number in FE was 2000+ member but they nap u so quick afraid to lose D7-ZAC.... Look at PA and NBSI number we Refuse every thing that Five propose US We fight u every day getting some kill getting some lose..... even if we lose our space we will fight until the end and we will refuse any deal with FIVE... That 1 thing that our ALLIED know we KEPT OUR WORDS. eve is a game. i can t die for real... And why start a other alliance that will have some new corp and old corp OF PA in it..... PA is a nice name and a old one i m proud of it. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 15/02/2006 22:32:31 Pacifica...can you please try explain what you tried to prove with that log? Guy convo you and ask you something...you were whining about how HPA is laggy...he asked you again same question...you continued to whine again about Atuk and lag.lol And then he asked to talked with someone else from PA cause he understude that all he will be hearing from you will be only whine...and not answer he asked in a first place read the top ligne they was thinking we agree to leave tenal/branch/venal to u but you can t read well i think bye enouf forum thing today let do some killing in game Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:22:00 - [11] Edited by: pacifica on 15/02/2006 23:22:39 Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: pacifica We refuse the offer to cancel war FE accepted We refuse To NAP u FE did accept Look at PA and NBSI number we Refuse every thing that Five propose US Yep. You refuse to fight. You refuse to defend your space. Not really we was doing the job U still mad at me be honest you use your Alliance for your personel use when you baned SOLID from Tribute... U think we wasn t Fighting but look the killboard of Five in that time. you Blame the H-PA incident did u forget to tell the Other PPL u was beginnng Help on their ts TO SAY U TURN 50+ BS from PA back to refit... in H-PA... u say we wasn t willing to help that day in the morning we was killing some ATUK u guys log on ask a gang and we sit in POS for 3hrs----- after that PA GO REFIT LONG RANG..... ATUK was LONG RANGE i don t want to play a CowBoy duel at 200km of each other both in optimum and start losing ppl both side... OURS Communication end that day.... when your enemey is Long Range fight them close range... FE didn t have a lot of ppl in tech 2 gun atuk are 3/4 all tech 2 so 60v60 long range = 1 will be *****and it not me If u FE did want NBSI and PA to assit u better in H-PA and was willing to work with us. At lease we did should take the time to talk and explain what we will do... no 1 minutes plan..... Pers u make Mistake and u can t Admit it... Take a Man to say yes i did so mistake... i don t say either PA was all ok in that yes PA did some mistake we let ATUK install their self in H-PA but it hard to be at 2 place at the time... RISK was keping us busy in the same time ATUK was moving Troop in H-PA..... So i m not perfect i did make some mistake but i thing i will never betrade my friend To save our space.... Prefer to loose it and retake it later... over and out.. BTW FE if u was fighting alone that mean PA or NBSI should not have KillMail in H-PA look the stat PA got a lot of KILLMAIL in H-PA oktksbye Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:44:00 - [12] Originally by: Lorth Pacifica, PA didn't fight. I've looked at the 5 kill board, I would suggest you do so your self. Here's how to do it if your not sure. Go to 'world war eve' find your self the date where the FE nap took place. Now strat scrolling back a day, then anouther, and anouther and so on. You'll start to see a very surprising pattern, since the killboard displays the allience. FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE And on and on and on. Stop and look at each PA kill you come across, you'll see they either had mining lasers, or an NPC fitting (as evidenced by the loot in thier cargo.) Almost in no incident do you ever see a PA kill in which the person had anything like looked like it could be a PVP fit at all. While I'm forumer [5], I know that if anyone ever bothered to look at the five's kilboard I don't see any possible way they can say that PA fought at all in this war. I have no personal stake in your flame fest with F-E, but i'm certain that anyone who bothers to look at five's kills will see just how little PA was there. mathematic calculation count now :) but look closely the killboard BTW u left .5. 2000 member FE 800 member PA look the ratio OK and i did pass 2 week in h-pa was always around 10-20 PA member when i was their at lease... Some time we did get a fight Some time we was waiting all days cause .5. didn t undock or having the number... Get Real FE Side of the Story PA side of the story Mix it it give this ..... FE and PA Communication and Planning was totaly wrong... inexistant.... ligne was busy no answer both side .... BOTH SIDE that mean i say that PA did make a mistake and Did Admit it.... I don t Think ATUK 1 day at 1 moment say ok we go kill a POS in that system 10 jump away u fly their and when their u ask supremacy bring your self here we need u now... but you don t tell them what u will do and when they come you make them wait and say supremacy go refit and come back...... btw that is a exemple oktksbye Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:05:00 - [13] Originally by: pershphanie Tbh numbers are meaningless. You pa guys need to realize that while flying around in a gang of a few frigates and try and get a gank is loads of fun it doesnt actually do any harm. If someone moves into one of your core systems ganking them in a shuttle in empire does not effect that. There was no pa/nbsi strategy on how to go about removing the5. You decided to hide behind FE and let us do all the work while you zoomed around in frigates. We did everything we could to try and get pa/nbsi involved in that but you just assumed we would handle your problems for you. Well now you made your bed, time to die in it. You got a Big EGO we never hide behind u Get real and say the true you did get power Hungry.... the way u find to get ride of ATUK was easier (The NAP button)..... if we can t defend our space explain to me why KAOS wasn t able to claim S-E.... did u plan or did like in H-PA last minute planing.... My point is this FE did fight ATUK in H-PA PA did fight ATUK in H-PA F-E fail under presure we didn t... F-E did go on every ppl ts asking for help... like this : - (We will see our real friend) that was the words i ear ..... PA did try to get GOOD COMM and Planing with F-E but U close the door cause Your EGO was to high... I take guts to admit our Mistake it easy to stay Stuborn and think we are King of the Hill... Even if u destroy PA my task will be to annoye u until F-E disband........ u Join the Side of .5. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:28:00 - [14] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 16/02/2006 02:09:13 "My point is this FE did fight ATUK in H-PA PA did fight ATUK in H-PA F-E fail under presure we didn t.." taken from man above (stupid quote cant be bothered with it) that made me spill my cornflakes putting your head in the sand wont make us go away. btw didnt pa lose its prime minister or something tonight. where can we welcome pa mk5/6 Humm u make me Laff so much lol yes PA have a new leader but 1 thing Real life Pass First... EvE is only a Game U wasn t here when FE make the deal with your Alliance... taken from man above (stupid quote cant be bothered with it) lol same thing to u Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:34:00 - [15] Edited by: pacifica on 16/02/2006 02:34:41 Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: pacifica the way u find to get ride of ATUK was easier (The NAP button)..... somewhere in your misguided journey you seem to think we hand out naps to ppl that dont deserve them. do you think there was ever a chance for PA to get one? Do u think we will Accept it.... get real yes u offer us a nap and we refuse IT ask your leader or u want me to get the forum POST of your leader http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=282364 before saying some thing get a clue Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 05:53:00 - [16] lol U guys are a JOKE I never think of joining i fight Atuk since a long time when u guys was only 65 member. U think u are uber and u are the only one that can speak. u guys EGO are big too... Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 13:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Mallik Hendrake All other wars aside, PA is definitely losing the War of Grammar and Coherent Sentences. Can you guys put a little time into your writing to make it readable, instead of trying to outpost .5. by sheer volume? You cannot defeat their forum fu anyway, might as well try to look less ridiculous while getting owned. I m Sorry i can t type english well so for now on. i will never POST on eve-o forum. English ppl don t like how we type. they don t respect other ppl language. At lease we try to type in english to obey the forum rule. Only big EGO ppl know how to comment.... btw i speak 3 language type 1 without mistake and the 2 other i don t care at lease i speak it... Now new Rule on this Forum we are not allowed to make mistake Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.

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