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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:46:00 -
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In a few days terrorist type attacks will begin on all known TTI resource gathering operations and those corporation selling and mining minerals for them. This includes those in empire space (and > 0.5 also).
It is strongly suggested you find other corporations such as Techell to mine/work for. If you need assistance in finding other corporations giving working contracts as TTI I will be glad to assist.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Krac
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:52:00 -
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and so it begins |
Tentimes
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:52:00 -
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"In a few days terrorist type attacks will begin on all known TTI resource gathering operations and those corporation selling and mining minerals for them."
Um - whilst I agree with RP, I thik this way of phrasing your remarks is a bit insensitive.
I mean this a a RL comment, not an ingame comment.
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cball
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:55:00 -
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"In a few days terrorist type attacks will begin on all known TTI resource gathering operations and those corporation selling and mining minerals for them."
Um - whilst I agree with RP, I thik this way of phrasing your remarks is a bit insensitive.
I mean this a a RL comment, not an ingame comment.
I am an American and found nothing wrong with what he said. It was well within the content of the GAME, and had nothing to do with real life.
Don't be so sensitive, and PC, and keep YOUR RL issues out of the forums plz.
...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:56:00 -
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"I mean this a a RL comment, not an ingame comment."
Sorry to say it is the only way to describe it in game. It is what it is. No way to hide it.
Designed to disrupt and cause fear on unfair and dishonorable grounds = terrorist.
When TTI goes down you won't see this anymore. And only effects those suppling TTI.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Tentimes
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:57:00 -
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Just expressin an honest opinion ;) Not trying to force it uopn anyone.
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:58:00 -
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The campaign against TTI supply line's will be carried out as they are being used to fund the war effort against us as well as fund m3g4 corp.
This type of action will continue until selling to TTI has been stoped.
Consider this fair warning.
And remember to thank TTI, and send them your bills.
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"OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!"
-QBall
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QQ is QQ |
Deadmetal
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:01:00 -
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Hmmm hunting Miners as part of an organized strike against a dishonest MegaCorp.. Count me in... let me know when and where... 
"Human Nature - If someone put a big red button in a remote mountain cave with a sign on it 'End of the world button!! Do not push!!.. the paint wouldn't have a chance to dry." |
Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:02:00 -
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You fools are promising things you can't deliver.
You have gone nuts. You couldn't fight against Evolution and friends and you want to fight TTI and all of its suppliers?
R O F L!
Also in 0.5+ empire space?
R O F L!
Can someone help this people and give them some pills? They are fubared.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:04:00 -
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Quote:
In a few days terrorist type attacks will begin on all known TTI resource gathering operations and those corporation selling and mining minerals for them. This includes those in empire space (and > 0.5 also).
Should you find yourself short on ammo, missiles or fedo-dogs just shout.
I'm sure we can find some way of accomodating your needs without any ISK requirements.
After all - we shouldn't let TTi be the only Corporation with a hidden KOS list now should we?
- - -
On a seperate note I must object to your signature on the basis that nobody informed me officially that I was no longer leading the anti-TTi effort.
Upon further investigation we have discovered that none of the previous 5878 holders of the title (this week) were informed either.
Please adjust your signature to represent this....
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Deadmetal
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:11:00 -
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LOL... Molly Molly Molly... How many of us have created a "Fighting Alt" to join in this project.. I know I have.... you don't need much to throw up a missile frigate and to a miner.. 2 or 3 coming in guarentee death before concord can respond. so... 1.0 systems are not safe for TTI... secondly Destroy me.. Pod me. .what do I care.. my alt can make more than enough money to fund me in this way to make life interesting for TTI and it's cronies.. Welcome to the "Brave New World".. it's going to be a "blast"..
"Human Nature - If someone put a big red button in a remote mountain cave with a sign on it 'End of the world button!! Do not push!!.. the paint wouldn't have a chance to dry." |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:22:00 -
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For what it's worth, Techell is a great corp. Bunch of damn nice people, great prices and style. All corps I was in had business with them, and it was always to mutual benefit.
I remember once after we sold about 400K scordite to Kel'dra (at 8 ISK PU) I've got a mail from her where she thanked me for the ore and offered to throw in a few Harvesters/miner1's as a token of appreciation. Now that was back then when harvs were kinda cheap, but still 8ISK PU was great price, their ships cost less then TTI's and still they offer stuff to keep even a small corp happy (we were 3 members back then).
So I say kudos to them, you don't really need any other reasons (political or ideological) to do business with them and corps like them, except common sense.
Let the TTI exo's play with tenn soldiers and dream of power and riches, do the business with professionals.
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edudtset
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: edudtset on 01/09/2003 22:26:48
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Every kid does know that most non-TTI VA members have bought their ships from Techell, because they have better prices than TTI and a very good service.
even molly agrees and she is allied w/ tti |
QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:38:00 -
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You fools are promising things you can't deliver.
You have gone nuts. You couldn't fight against Evolution and friends and you want to fight TTI and all of its suppliers?
R O F L!
Also in 0.5+ empire space?
R O F L!
Can someone help this people and give them some pills? They are fubared.
Last time I check people where still dumping cargo in unsecure containers, I think a neutron cannon or 2 could take them out pretty easy dont you?
Make it hurt the most in the wallet.
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"OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!"
-QBall
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QQ is QQ |
Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:46:00 -
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Also how many corps have a spare war slot?
Very special and original incentives will be coming for people to use them soon.
This time the war against TTi will not be limited or pleasant - it is total war with everything that means, in empire space AND beyond. TTi chose to stab their allies in the back rather than accept victory in open and fair debate - when they did that they also chose to suffer until the horror of their actions is acknowledged.
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Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene! |
Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tehel Necrona on 01/09/2003 23:15:50
Well i don't think you can pull it off nor do i imagine you will attempt it.
Regardless, it's a cowardess act and gesture. You have shown how gutless you really are. It's quite fine, i'll let the countless innocent miners you destroy complain.
Fair enough if you have beef with us then let's take it out side, but going after those that are just making their way in this game, who have clearly chosen not to engage in combat because their quite happy with a life of mining and trade, is none other than disgusting.
But that's what i've come to expect from you guys in the past 24 hours.
-Necro
P.S. This Will fail for one important factor also. You know nothing about us and how we operate.
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edudtset
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:08:00 -
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Fair enough if you have beef with us then let's take it out side, but going after those that are just making their way in this game, who have clearly chosen not to engage in combat because their quite happy with a life of mining and trade, is none other than disgusting
do have any idea what SI's/mega's day job is when not watching ttis backside |
Femme Fatal
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:15:00 -
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Get ready for a lot of running TTI =)
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:16:00 -
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tehel, I dont know what goes through your head BUT,
about killing miners / traders, If you dont attack them then you still make the money, if you have money you make ships and weapons. so why shouldn't we cut it off before you are able to make the ships and the money. its war, it happens in RL it happens in eve. Deal with it or cancel your account.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:16:00 -
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WoW! My email has been lagged from all the informants and ppl willing to help take down TTI.
To those who have send info thus far thanks a lot and yes your help is certainly welcomed.
It is going to take me a while to sort thru them all. But by all means keep them coming  .
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Lady Callisto
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:22:00 -
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Quote:
In a few days terrorist type attacks will begin on all known TTI resource gathering operations and those corporation selling and mining minerals for them. This includes those in empire space (and > 0.5 also).
It is strongly suggested you find other corporations such as Techell to mine/work for. If you need assistance in finding other corporations giving working contracts as TTI I will be glad to assist.
a good reason to start busnis whit TTI
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:23:00 -
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tehel -
Remove Ragnar as CEO and completely from TTI and assume command. Any future hostilities on our end will cease to materialize and we then can talk about settling this.
You are one of the few in TTI at a level I believe can bring respect and good relations to TTI.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:31:00 -
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Got my skates on already.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:38:00 -
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Tehel, I would have infinately more respect for you if you actually acknowledged what happened yesterday. All I have seen from you today are "head in the sand" regurgitated segments from the TTI training manual. How many times do you have to be told; Ragnar, your CEO, went certifiably insane yesterday.
And as for your own battleship being chased around Fountain for a few days being critical to the war effort ... really monsieur, couldn't you have made do with an Ibis and lent the ship with guns to KIA Corp?
Love and peace
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High Priestess
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:42:00 -
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I agree Techell is an excellent company. They are the epitome of customer service and quality. Their ships are the highest performing around.
As for TTI I fear they may be at an end. Not because of any war however but because so many of them are indicating they're leaving the game entirely. While I think its fun to roleplay these people need to relax. If you dont like TTI I'd encourage you to leave and join another reputable company. I also hope Mr. Nimitz stays. He seems very intelligent and caring about Eve. There is room for carebears in Eve so you dont need to quit and hide. Other members of TTI are always welcome to renounce Taggart and join the side of good.
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.09.02 00:23:00 -
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/set In_Character_Mode 1
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T'is..."Tee-Tee-Eye"...w'o are t'ey being, exactly? I 'ave not seen t'em, I 'ave not being speaking wit' t'em...yet I am to be hearing many, MANY bad t'ings about t'em.
Why is t'is? Are t'ey some sort of...'ow is it said..."problem" to t'e world? But it is of no matterance to moi, I am to be merely staying away and taking w'at is left unwatc'ed.
It is all very well and being good t'at you are to be destroying somet'ing, but t'ere will be moments of mot paying attention that ot'ers will be taking a grip of. It is being good times for all.
I give many apologies for my speaking, I am not to be saying t'e..."normal"?....words too much.
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.02 01:42:00 -
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Tehel Necrona,
Yes kick Roark and Ragnar out, you and Mark A should take over, TTI is lead by a bunch of suicidal maniacs.
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"OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!"
-QBall
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QQ is QQ |
Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.09.02 02:11:00 -
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LOL ... What a joke. The Wretch: go home to mommy.
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Origin Unknown
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Posted - 2003.09.02 02:51:00 -
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Operations have begun.
Scorched earth policy in effect for miners who supply TTI with minerals.
You have been warned.
No Freedom, No Peace! |
Stavros
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Posted - 2003.09.02 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 02/09/2003 03:06:25
We interrupt your regular programming because we can and because eve is really laggy and I am bored - OMG GO ME!
ok i still hate tti and i still want em ganked but be warned...
the anti-tti people are coming DANGEROUSLY close to filling up the good ole patented, Stavros bull**** metre (TM).
How it works is very simple, you are allowed only so much forum flooding without actually doing something to someone...
And right now the anti-tti guys are running into the red zone!
to quote mr scott..
she cannae tek much more capain!
but would mr scott really care about my bull**** metre? does anyone REALLY care about my bull**** metre? do I even care?
Well ok i do a bit and if i pay tekforce a mil or two he will say he cared so yey!!
If i ever see mr scott ill be sure to ask him as well..
So in summation all forum smakky talky talky and no tti brutal ownage = no respect from stavvy!
And everyone wants respect from me, cos afterall I r0x0r j00 c0x0r!
Normal programming now resumes....
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.02 03:10:00 -
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Spoilsport Stavros!
I was going to make a humourous aside about you still "****'em ganking" TTI ;)
I don't know, editing away glorious opportunities for gratutious rudeness.
For shame!
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.09.02 03:15:00 -
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ahahah pwned, spotted that one rather too fast sadly.. couldnt allow an error like that to exist.... what would people think?
Stavros and Ragnar in german duck **** shocker...
OMG?
Stavros (who does not have any sexual feelings towards any water fowl at all, oh yes)
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.02 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: The Wretch on 02/09/2003 03:26:17
Takes time Stravos - it takes time and patiences. It has already begun. And it's effects are in ways more then just blowing up miners.
"Greetings Wretch, I am messaging you after reading the posts on the eve boards. Our corp has decided to re-route our 100 million isk per week supply of minerals. If there is a way we could route that supply to benifit the VA cause please let me know. A number of members have expressed and interest in joining your alliance, while at the moment you probably have security concerns, I can promise you this is not an issue with the PUKIN' DOGS. Best of luck to your cause" - one example from a flooded email box.
TTI is not a military might. They are a financial power. This is where the pain will be greatest to them.
Their money will not save them. Their bribes and shady dealing are coming to an end.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.09.02 03:47:00 -
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Speaking as a more-or-less full time miner, sometimes combat mining sometimes 1.0 AFK indy boy, I'd have to say your best bet if you want to hurt TTi is the Megacyte. Make sure TTi can't get any, and major production ends.
Period.
Forget stomping carebears, noobs and others unless of course they're actually IN TTI, in which case, hey, war's war. Cutting off Trit/Pyr supply to TTi is pointless, like trying to stop a construction project by making sure they don't get nails.
The Mega must flow. She/he who controls the Mega, controls the galaxy (all apologies to Frank H.).
BW (who doesn't have any dealings with TTi or any of the alliances that he knows about).
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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OverKill
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Posted - 2003.09.02 03:58:00 -
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Well if there are Corporations out there who had Contracts with TTi and no longer feel they can honor them, HDY will pick up all megacyte and zydrine contracts.
Thats right folks, we're BUYING Megacyte and Zydrine in large quantities.
Contact BADGER in game and arrange things with him.
Regards,
OK
[email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.09.02 05:56:00 -
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Edited by: StealthNet on 02/09/2003 06:08:55
Edited by: StealthNet on 02/09/2003 06:03:24
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You fools are promising things you can't deliver.
You have gone nuts. You couldn't fight against Evolution and friends and you want to fight TTI and all of its suppliers?
R O F L!
Also in 0.5+ empire space?
R O F L!
Can someone help this people and give them some pills? They are fubared.
Molly,
Look around. Read it. Hear it. It is the sound of the people gathering to help in this effort. I think ou may give it a second thought about who is in each side. It would be advisable to avoid underestimating it
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.09.02 08:53:00 -
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Ah stav just what i needed is there any way i could buy a personal hand signed stavr0s bull**** meter. Right now i have to play it by ear and its just not accurate i am willing to pay in isk or corpse for your "rituals" or whatever but i must have the bull**** meter
But im a nice guy..... |
Medium Dummy
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:08:00 -
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So anyone got a list of the corps supplying TTI ?
Any reward for "helping" them get to the station quick?
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Helox
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:31:00 -
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Quote:
Edited by: Stavros on 02/09/2003 03:06:25
We interrupt your regular programming because we can and because eve is really laggy and I am bored - OMG GO ME!
LOL!
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Ctaesis
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:21:00 -
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terrorist type attacks
Ok, now that's just silly. Real terrorists never label their own actions "terrorism", rather, they call themselves "Freedom Fighters" and whatnot.
By using the term "terrorist", you've pretty much already defeated yourself. After all, no one likes terrorism. :)
Why don't you pay off Jade to come up with a "clever" name for your complete and utterly spineless decision to attack TTi?
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:28:00 -
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You don't really need fuel to make a TTI hate grow, it's perpeetum mobile.
Sigh, too bad, a GM pet-project down the drain...
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Master Scy
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:35:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
terrorist type attacks
Ok, now that's just silly. Real terrorists never label their own actions "terrorism", rather, they call themselves "Freedom Fighters" and whatnot.
By using the term "terrorist", you've pretty much already defeated yourself. After all, no one likes terrorism. :)
Why don't you pay off Jade to come up with a "clever" name for your complete and utterly spineless decision to attack TTi?
Well, it does show honesty on their part...
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You think Marco Polo said
"Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ?
-Indigo Seqi
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OverKill
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:37:00 -
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Why don't you pay off Jade to come up with a "clever" name for your complete and utterly spineless decision to attack TTi?
Well color me silly, would it be construed as "spineless" to hire and associate with pirates to do your wetwork or would that be considered "saavy business sense"? You are afterall distancing yourself from the actual "dirty work".
I believe Ms. Constantine is set about taking TTi down around Ragnar's ears and her "spineless attack" could also be construed as "saavy business sense" could it not? Jade is also distancing herself from the dirty work by letting the public in on the vendetta (no not the corp folks, the ideal).
In otherwords you are both set about achieving objectives and although the methods are "different" they are also the same.
Pot calling the kettle black and all that jazz.
Regards,
OK
[email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:41:00 -
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complete and utterly spineless decision to attack TTi?
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Put your members in armed vessels. If you want to use suicide troops, at least give them a chance.
If your troops will not fight then they must suffer the consequences of being allied to a psycopathic killer in the form of your CEO.
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Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene! |
Shock
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:52:00 -
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. After all, no one likes terrorism. :)
I think you're wrong on that part, after all it is directed towards TTi
I suggest Ragnar lays aside his books about galaxy-dominance economics for dummies and how do I become a millionaire, and reads "A Christmas Carol" by Charles ****ins.
Books can be mirrors you know?
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soonÖ |
yarr
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:30:00 -
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Well if there are Corporations out there who had Contracts with TTi and no longer feel they can honor them, HDY will pick up all megacyte and zydrine contracts.
Thats right folks, we're BUYING Megacyte and Zydrine in large quantities.
Contact BADGER in game and arrange things with him.
Regards,
OK
This is the right way to remove your enemies resources, rather than to crush hundreds of innocent miners who (as most players don't read this forum) don't know what is about to hit them. Just think of the accounts that will be cancelled due to these poor people getting podded for no reason they can understand.
How some of the corps here can openly speak out about ore thieves, and then become noob-miner killers overnight is, frankly, shocking.
By killing the miners you are taking away my pleasure and only source of income.
Also, can I have their stuff?
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Gafton
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:58:00 -
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Might want to post a similar thread in the market forum, that way miners will know what to expect.
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Liscia Thierese
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:17:00 -
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It cuts both ways with alt characters i.e. TTI could use alts to go about their daily business and transfer the proceeds to a central TTI character. Simple.
IMO using alts in this fashion is lame. Actions have consequences and one must be responsible for one's own actions. Hence, any action that I perform will always be in Liscia's name. Period. My alt is only used to /petition if Liscia is 'stuck'.
Also, I created my alt in the image of a co-worker that I quite like. Captures the features rather well. Good Lord! I cannot believe I just displayed such sad levels of inadequacy on a public forum on the 'net ;)
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Uncle Enzo
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Uncle Enzo on 02/09/2003 21:31:32
This strategy seems economically sound, but killing and podding players who are not TTI members, just to attack TTI, seems a bit like "the ends justify the means."
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:38:00 -
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Enzo thats the definition of a trade embargo, yes :P
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: The Wretch on 02/09/2003 21:43:03
"TTI could use alts to go about their daily business and transfer the proceeds to a central TTI character. Simple."
Absolutely - so it's important to have intel on their operations and we are getting a good amount such as:
" Known TTI members joins Love Goddess Corp now operating in Korama. Sky Corp working for Roark on the Korama mining ops. Dont forget Q Labs... ŘŘThis part is weak but could be linked: Intergalactic Services have been in Korama for the past 3 weeks (were they VA?), this includes Freddy Krueger & Gallente Marcus, Freddy also seen way back in 0.0 with Ragnar. Clanzero Corp seen in Korama for the past 3 weeks (approx), Masu seen with Freddy way back in 0.0 with Ragnar. Did have screenie of the meetings in 0.0 but atm cant find them...Ř"
Like I said, this is not about blowing up miners in empire space or causing grief. Some miners may not know and we will do our best to give them information and they may decide if they want to continue supporting TTI.
There are way too many other decent manufacturing (and quite powerfull) corporations out their to do business with. I will be more then happy to assist in redirecting contracts currently with TTI.
They most likely will get a sweeter deal elsewhere....
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Halo Jones on 02/09/2003 22:02:21
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Um - whilst I agree with RP, I thik this way of phrasing your remarks is a bit insensitive.
I mean this a a RL comment, not an ingame comment.
WOW, until cball explained his point of view, I had absolutely no idea what on earth you were talking about. I find it amazing that was the conslusion you drew from the original statement. It's amzing how u can learn about people and clutures from boards such as this. I would have never thought of the word terrorist being used in 'bad-taste' in this case, or in any other relating to eve. Quite interesting the conclusions others can draw from things.
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Uncle Enzo
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:47:00 -
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I hear you Luc. Attacking TTI or their alts (which really is just attacking TTI) is one thing - but attacking and podding people who have nothing to do with TTI's actions beyond selling them pyer or something just seemed to me like going over the edge. What's the old adage of becoming like one's enemy?
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Fortoye Drak
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:51:00 -
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Quote:
I hear you Luc. Attacking TTI or their alts (which really is just attacking TTI) is one thing - but attacking and podding people who have nothing to do with TTI's actions beyond selling them pyer or something just seemed to me like going over the edge. What's the old adage of becoming like one's enemy?
For gods sake Hiro get a new alt you n00b
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:51:00 -
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For uncle enzo:
repost:
"TTI could use alts to go about their daily business and transfer the proceeds to a central TTI character. Simple."
Absolutely - so it's important to have intel on their operations and we are getting a good amount such as:
" Known TTI members joins Love Goddess Corp now operating in Korama. Sky Corp working for Roark on the Korama mining ops. Dont forget Q Labs... ŘŘThis part is weak but could be linked: Intergalactic Services have been in Korama for the past 3 weeks (were they VA?), this includes Freddy Krueger & Gallente Marcus, Freddy also seen way back in 0.0 with Ragnar. Clanzero Corp seen in Korama for the past 3 weeks (approx), Masu seen with Freddy way back in 0.0 with Ragnar. Did have screenie of the meetings in 0.0 but atm cant find them...Ř"
Like I said, this is not about blowing up miners in empire space or causing grief. Some miners may not know and we will do our best to give them information and they may decide if they want to continue supporting TTI.
There are way too many other decent manufacturing (and quite powerfull) corporations out their to do business with. I will be more then happy to assist in redirecting contracts currently with TTI.
They most likely will get a sweeter deal elsewhere....
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They have a choice. If they want to supply TTI then they are TTI.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:33:00 -
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I just want to know how molly can call us crazy she is the one who self destructed her megathron : /
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Caerdwyn
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:00:00 -
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So. Mister Terrorist. What will you do with the minerals and other loot from the innocents whom you will be killing? You wouldn't be planning on KEEPING it, would you?
A pirate is a pirate is a pirate. No difference between you and MoO.
You wouldn't happen to be planning to use the -10 security exploit in Empire space, would you?
And just how do you plan on identifying your targets? After all, such records are not available. No, I think you'll simply shoot at ANYONE whose cargo hold has megacyte, and cut-and-paste "TTI must die" to try and rationalize yourselves.
I think you're just another pirate corp, and as such, no different from Space Invaders, MoO, M3g4, or RUS. Trying to pretend you're a "freedom fighter" or some kind of "Robin Hood" is just another lie, just another way that human-shaped garbage tries to justify what they know is immoral.
The capacity for Ayn Rand "Libertarians" to rationalize an economic class-based society with themselves as aristocracy is infinite. Just like the capacity for thieves to rationalize why it's okay for them to parasitize the hard work of others.
TTI must fall.
And so must you.
I urge ALL of Eve's population to put Cyberdyne Systems and The Wretch on their kill-on-sight list, right next to Sexybeast, J0rt, and others of that kind.
By the way. Your quote contains no threats. Just TTI arrogance. If you're going to quote something as a threat, then find one.
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Deadzone
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:48:00 -
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Attacking the miners supplying TTI with their goods is a very direct tactical move. It is NOTHING less than attacking an enemies supply lines.
Wether or not you like it, doesn;t matter. They know how to go after a large corp, that obviously outnumbers them 10:1. Go for their supplies and you can bring the biggest giant to their knees.
Vice-Admiral
Executive Commanding Officer
Military Command
Hadead Drive Yards |
Deadmetal
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:09:00 -
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I do not wish to attack Miners doing their business lawfully... and honestly. Good questions all round... If we as a unit go after TTI assets and consorts.. how can we identify targets of oppourtunity? How will we know that this or that corp or indie miner has been selling to TTI?
I'm all for this Jihad here but as long as we minimize the "collateral damage" on innocents...
Just a thought.. .
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:48:00 -
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If you expect to see tons of miners brought down in fiery hell you will be sorely disappointed.
If they still support TTI then yes - envision the worst.
But to no suprise, I am having very little trouble redirecting miner contracts from TTI.
Actually I have been having some rather fun chats with the locals in Korama system. I suggest TTI find another scamming ground.
Sorry for any miners who have been disrupted thus far. War is not perfect and can be sloppy at times. We will try our best to avoid the innocent. I strongly suggest until this war is done that an alternative mining system be choosen or until we can confirm TTIs ship building activities are out of the Korama system.
And of coarse any information to help quicken this process will be to all our benefit.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Skelator
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Posted - 2003.09.03 02:26:00 -
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Quote:
"I mean this a a RL comment, not an ingame comment."
Sorry to say it is the only way to describe it in game. It is what it is. No way to hide it.
Designed to disrupt and cause fear on unfair and dishonorable grounds = terrorist.
When TTI goes down you won't see this anymore. And only effects those suppling TTI.
LOL maybe you could change Terrorist to a word like Special operations or Guerilla operations to soothe everyones feelings in the matter
Just a Suggestion 
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Cylynex
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Posted - 2003.09.03 03:59:00 -
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So umm....which system in empire space will you be targeting miners in? We don't deal with TTI or anything, but I'll come hang out and grab your gear when concord blows up you "down with TTI" fighters, or whatever you call yourselves...
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OverKill
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Posted - 2003.09.03 04:08:00 -
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LOL HDY has had increased minerals sales in the last 36 hours however the last 12 have really seen an increase in our mineral yards.
Thanks to those who have sent their hard earned business our way.
Regards,
OK
[email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.03 04:08:00 -
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Cylynex -
Doussivitte
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Cylynex
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Posted - 2003.09.03 04:15:00 -
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I guess you were trying to be witty by naming the system my corp is HQ'd in....Well feel free to stop by and let concord blow ya up......doubt you'll find anyone there, there's rarely anyone except the occasionally 2 man corp who runs in to clean up some omber or some commons.
Attacking miners in high security space....Absolutely brilliant =) Gonna be lots of happy miners after this one blows over...
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2003.09.03 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 03/09/2003 04:23:14
"The capacity for Ayn Rand "Libertarians" to rationalize an economic class-based society with themselves as aristocracy is infinite. Just like the capacity for thieves to rationalize why it's okay for them to parasitize the hard work of others."
Caerdwyn, you are way out of your league there. From what I understand TTi have no business sullying the name of Ayn Rand with their conduct. Ayn Rands philosophy (Objectivism) outlaws the initiation of force, and as seems to be obvious to everyone, TTi use force not only to defend themselves from pirates. Therefore, according to Objectivist philosophy (to which I largely adhere), TTi are fair targets for anyone, as TTi are morally equivalent to any pirate corp (like m0o).
Myself, I am agitated enough seeing the conduct of TTi sully Ayn Rands name (it is obvious that evaders and irrationalists do not fail to target her as the basis of TTi's corrupt behaviour). But I will do nothing unless any of my corporation colleagues (or the corp as a whole) gets forced (or the Directions descides) to join the war.
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Queen X
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Posted - 2003.09.03 04:50:00 -
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Quote:
For what it's worth, Techell is a great corp. Bunch of damn nice people, great prices and style. All corps I was in had business with them, and it was always to mutual benefit.
I remember once after we sold about 400K scordite to Kel'dra (at 8 ISK PU) I've got a mail from her where she thanked me for the ore and offered to throw in a few Harvesters/miner1's as a token of appreciation. Now that was back then when harvs were kinda cheap, but still 8ISK PU was great price, their ships cost less then TTI's and still they offer stuff to keep even a small corp happy (we were 3 members back then).
So I say kudos to them, you don't really need any other reasons (political or ideological) to do business with them and corps like them, except common sense.
Let the TTI exo's play with tenn soldiers and dream of power and riches, do the business with professionals.
What about the Blood and Sweat and Devastation Wreaked on the Fine Fleet Officers that Held the line for them Died for Them Lost Entire Fleets for them while they wouldnt send Re-Inforcements OR EQUIPMENT and ignored repeated requests for such Relief knowing the Shattered remains of the Once Proud Navy Alliance that defended their interests was taking a pounding and when such Navy Voted to leave then in turn they Attacked THE VERY PEOPLE DEFENDING THEM!!
Great Corp you say.... You Are Blind I Say....
They are Not to Be Trusted one day they will turn their backs on the Miners also
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Caerdwyn
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Posted - 2003.09.03 05:57:00 -
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Nope, I'm very much in my league here. And not voluntarily.
You see, I live in Silicon Valley, which has more Libertarians than any other metropolitan area.
And you know what I found? The more "Libertarian" someone was, the more often they tried to push a copy of "Atlas Shrugged into my hands, the more insufferable they were... the richer they were... and the more contempt for people low in the economic pyramid they had. The attitude of "the poor are poor because they are lazy" was thinly veiled at best.
One of my former roommates was Very Very Libertarian, as in, politically active, a Ron Brown disciple, quoted "Atlas Shrugged" constantly, the whole bit. A True Believer. One of my coworkers was on the California Libertarian Party board of directors, and he was always the one with the condescending attitude, causing arguments in the workplace, and oddly enough the one who wrote the buggiest software (which I had the dubious pleasure of testing).
The problem isn't Libertarianism. It's Libertarians. Which I have had to endure far more than I would have preferred.
On the face of it, Libertarianism (with a big "L") would seem to make sense. However, it seems to attract the most avaricious, exploitative people around. It's kind of like That Major Religion That Begins with "Chr"... the basic philosophy isn't bad, but the followers are.
Therefore, from extensive firsthand experience, I repeat: Ayn Rand-pattern Libertarians are would-be economic aristocrats with little in the way of conscience who can rationalize anything that brings them personal wealth. My disgust is with the people, not the philosophy.
Police your own, and I will think better of of you and them. But do not discount an "opposing view" just because it doesn't jibe with the way you wish things were. As I said, my opinions are from personal experience. Politically, I am fiscally and militarily conservative, socially liberal, believe that honest entrepreneurs are the true American heroes, and I am reasonably economically successful. There's hardly a "sour grape" to be found, and I would seem to be a fit for Objectivism.
But I refuse to allow myself to be called a "Libertarian". It's been transformed into a dirty word, not by non-Libertarians, but by Libertarians themselves.
What does this have to do with the game? Simply this: in Eve, "Objectivists" seem to be masters of rationalizing their behavior even when it is by any other standard anti-social. You are an eloquent lot, but I do not confuse eloquence with morality. The two are not the same, and the rest of us see the difference.
TTi, as the highest-profile Ayn Rand-quoting "Objectivists" in the game, are giving Objectivism a very bad name amongst the rest of us. Don't like that? Take it up with them, not me. If anyone is sullying the Rand name, it's them.
Don't shoot the messenger, especially when there's a damned good chance he's right.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:36:00 -
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Quote:
Queen X:
What about the Blood and Sweat and Devastation Wreaked on the Fine Fleet Officers that Held the line for them Died for Them Lost Entire Fleets for them while they wouldnt send Re-Inforcements OR EQUIPMENT and ignored repeated requests for such Relief knowing the Shattered remains of the Once Proud Navy Alliance that defended their interests was taking a pounding and when such Navy Voted to leave then in turn they Attacked THE VERY PEOPLE DEFENDING THEM!!
Great Corp you say.... You Are Blind I Say....
They are Not to Be Trusted one day they will turn their backs on the Miners also
What the **** are you on about??!! Get a pair of glasses and stop using ***** you trolling midget!
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:38:00 -
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Quote:
You see, I live in Silicon Valley, which has more Libertarians than any other metropolitan area.
Ummm, that's must be near Yulai right?
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Caerdwyn
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Posted - 2003.09.03 20:23:00 -
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Yup. You can tell by the traffic and the frequency of getting "stuck".
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.09.03 20:36:00 -
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Quote:
What about the Blood and Sweat and Devastation Wreaked on the Fine Fleet Officers that Held the line for them Died for Them Lost Entire Fleets for them while they wouldnt send Re-Inforcements OR EQUIPMENT and ignored repeated requests for such Relief knowing the Shattered remains of the Once Proud Navy Alliance that defended their interests was taking a pounding and when such Navy Voted to leave then in turn they Attacked THE VERY PEOPLE DEFENDING THEM!!
And the award for the longest sentence ever goes to.....
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2003.09.03 20:52:00 -
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Caerdwyn, this is beginning to go offtopic now, so I'll keep this (relatively =) short and invite you to continue the convo in-game (if you want to).
Anyway, you might be interested in studying Rand's own comments about libertarians. Good quote is "a perversion of liberty". She also condemned them for being philosophic nihilists parasiting on her work, bastardizing it in the process. I know full well the nature of theese libertarians (in TTi and in real life), but methinks it's quite wrong to blame the author and the genuine movement because a lot of people simply don't have the brains to understand it.
And BTW, TTi's got "Mulligan Defence" and "Danneski÷ld Mining" divisions, right? Says a lot about TTi and their understanding of Rand - and thereby the validity of bashing Rand and Rand scholars for the TTi weirdness going around (which I still do not have a clear picture of) - since Mulligan was a banker in Atlas Shrugged, and Ragnar Danneski÷ld a pirate.
And yes, I have already stated (methinks, been up for 48h straight now, is foggy) that I dislike the TTi bastardization of Objectivism. But as I do not have a clear picture of it, but I did have a clear picture of your statement, I began by contradicting what I felt was a clear error on your behalf.
Though, as long as you simply mean libertarians by your statement, I'm with you. As long as you don't mix in Rand herself and true Rand scholars. Then I take offence.
(On the aristocracy part, Rand stated that every productive job, big or small, is worth doing, and those that do them are all worthy of praise and self-esteem (as long as they don't do them based on altruistic incentives)).
Anyway, I really got to sleep.
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.09.03 20:55:00 -
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And the award for the coolest post ever goes to OverKill of the Hadean Drive Yards for actually using the word "wetwork" in a sentance!
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Queen X
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Posted - 2003.09.03 21:55:00 -
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What the **** are you on about??!! Get a pair of glasses and stop using ***** you trolling midget!
LOL Take it Easy Sir I was just Roleplaying the Scenario!!
Whats with the Abusive Foul language towards me for a Role Played Post
Your Conduct is not that of a Gentleman.
Sorry if I somehow(dont know how) Offended You in any Way
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Neferana
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Posted - 2003.09.03 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Neferana on 03/09/2003 22:32:02
$t4v i5 4 g0d!! Reach out and spank me you crazy pedifile you!! You can steal my lolipop any time you want! U r0X0r!
kill TTI please, burn those filthy market witches!
Molly is a TTI ho, k33l her st4nk a$$ 2!
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.09.03 23:23:00 -
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Quote:
What the **** are you on about??!! Get a pair of glasses and stop using ***** you trolling midget!
LOL Take it Easy Sir I was just Roleplaying the Scenario!!
Whats with the Abusive Foul language towards me for a Role Played Post
Your Conduct is not that of a Gentleman.
Sorry if I somehow(dont know how) Offended You in any Way
No offense, bu thtis isn't the RP forum, and on top of that , the guy you quoted shares your view, and you flamed him for it. Go back, read it all properly, he wasn't congratulating TTi.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.03 23:44:00 -
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Quote:
Whats with the Abusive Foul language towards me for a Role Played Post
Your Conduct is not that of a Gentleman.
Sorry if I somehow(dont know how) Offended You in any Way
Who said that I was a gentleman?
But seriously you were not RPG-ing you were trolling, besides you have no substance behind your post.
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Queen X
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Posted - 2003.09.03 23:56:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Whats with the Abusive Foul language towards me for a Role Played Post
Your Conduct is not that of a Gentleman.
Sorry if I somehow(dont know how) Offended You in any Way
Who said that I was a gentleman?
But seriously you were not RPG-ing you were trolling, besides you have no substance behind your post.
LOL Actually I WAS RPG'ng and I Apologized to You for any misunderstandings NO TROLL would do that :) ... 80% of the Stories here have no Factual Substance but are Very Fun to Read
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.09.04 00:48:00 -
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Just signing in to let you know that what I mine usually allready ends up with Techell, that goes for the rest of my corp as well, as far as i can tell
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Posted - 2003.09.04 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Thufir Hawat on 04/09/2003 01:40:45
I don't know about anyone else, but the thought of the pirates of VA taking this moral high ground to the point of getting donations for their cause against TTi is about ready to make me vomit.
A gdmn week ago Cyberdyne Systems, Jericho Fraction, and everyone else up north there was reviled by the galaxy for mass podding and gleeful pirating far and beyond the call of duty. You, I, and everyone else were being chased around by these bastards in Pure Blind and being podded if we so much as poked our heads into Venal near a VA member.
They get "backstabbed" within their piratical alliance whilst attempting to throw out somebody who was part of their alliance (and doesn't anyone see the hypocrisy of that? what is an alliance that can vote to let their members hang?!) and because they had the great good luck to be "backstabbed" by the most disliked corp in the galaxy, now they're the frickin heroes?!? This was absolutely the best thing to happen to the Venal Alliance from any perspective -- they end the war, keep their regions, and gain the good will of the galaxy in one giant masterstroke.
You're being had, folks.
People, this is a signal for you to grab popcorn and watch various megacorps tear themselves to shreds, not give away your hard-earned ISK to some people who will be charging you 1mil tickets to walk through Pure Blind when this is all over. And this crap about killing anybody who sells anything to TTi is exactly that. I'm half tempted to start making special trips to sell TTi my minerals, because you haven't got any right to dictate how I make money. Chase me down if you'd like -- I don't mind wasting my time running from you if I can get at least two of you to waste your time coming after me.
(Edit: Maybe not donations, so much as mineral contracts, pledges of support and whatnot... same principle, though.)
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.09.04 01:25:00 -
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I have no love for the Venal Alliance, they killed me in my indy without a word for no good reason but I don't want trouble with them either, so I try to stay out of their way.
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Posted - 2003.09.04 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: The Wretch on 04/09/2003 01:46:20
Ah Thufir Hawat, another one of Ragnars pocket hockey pals.
Pretty funny how you mentioned a week ago we were all podding ppl or what ever nonsense was spewing from your mouth when we were getting kicked around by evo and xan trying to defend TTI.
Just face it - TTI is going down and EvE will be a much better place once it is gone or Ragnar is gone.
I figure the word is well out now and operations have already begun. Maybe it's time to let this thread die now. It is getting way played out.
Oh yeah - your security director we took from your corporation is getting along just famously in Cyberdyne. He gives is regards.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted - 2003.09.04 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Thufir Hawat on 04/09/2003 01:57:48
Topic quoted from here is "Pure Blind":
Quote:
Get out while you can. Rumor has it the system is about to enter a choas to where no one knows what may become of it.
You have been warned.
That's from Intergalactic Summit, 15/08/2003 18:16:00.
I apologize. Two weeks. That really does make it a lot better, Mr. Wretch -- thanks for the nitpick.
I'd close this thread too before people think too hard about what you did before you decided to put on the white cape.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.09.04 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Drutort on 04/09/2003 09:54:20
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Why don't you pay off Jade to come up with a "clever" name for your complete and utterly spineless decision to attack TTi?
Well color me silly, would it be construed as "spineless" to hire and associate with pirates to do your wetwork or would that be considered "saavy business sense"? You are afterall distancing yourself from the actual "dirty work".
I believe Ms. Constantine is set about taking TTi down around Ragnar's ears and her "spineless attack" could also be construed as "saavy business sense" could it not? Jade is also distancing herself from the dirty work by letting the public in on the vendetta (no not the corp folks, the ideal).
In otherwords you are both set about achieving objectives and although the methods are "different" they are also the same.
Pot calling the kettle black and all that jazz.
Regards,
OK
i think there is a difference, when yo make corp or whatever and declar a war... so you can attack TTI then going and paying others to go just pk them...
and btw there would be no need if the war section would work right... once again CCP/DEV's have let us down, in a major part... wonder when that problem will be fixed?
at least when you declar war etc... that means both sides can fight and you can expect those people to come after you...
its not our problem that TTI cant protect all there miners and traders etc... 
if they started to protect and escort every mining trading going on... in high sec then they would have no ships to go fight any place, not like its a problem...
because they just pay others to do there job LOL
If you dont think that ppl dont get payed then how is it when the attacks were going at first of FA that i got poded and ship destroyed by 4 DIFF PIREATE corps or whatever...
it was 4 diff ones!! yes thats right 4 not 1 or 2 but 4.. and there wre more... so some how they manage to get along with each other and come and do specific task...
which would only be motivated by ISK, why would pirates or other corps who dont get a long with one another go together just because??? ya thats right...
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Posted - 2003.09.04 10:04:00 -
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Quote:
Edited by: Thufir Hawat on 04/09/2003 01:57:48
Topic quoted from here is "Pure Blind":
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Get out while you can. Rumor has it the system is about to enter a choas to where no one knows what may become of it.
You have been warned.
That's from Intergalactic Summit, 15/08/2003 18:16:00.
I apologize. Two weeks. That really does make it a lot better, Mr. Wretch -- thanks for the nitpick.
I'd close this thread too before people think too hard about what you did before you decided to put on the white cape.
Watch the situation as it develops - at the same time TTi expelled itself from the Aliiance by declaring war on it they were joined by the Piratical Corps and those unwilling to renounce piracy. Is it any suprise that the different composition of the NVA has resulted in a different stance? Unlike with TTi an Alliance stands together, of course there will be differences of opinion in the future - but these will be solved by reasoned debate and democratic vote. Not by threats and money for contract killers.
Since then the NVA has attracted support from many, many peaceful corporations of all sizes and from individuals who have had no history of any sort of involvement with either piracy or warfare.
TTi on the other hand has enlisted the support of the scum of the galaxy - most notably the universally reviled M3G4 corp.
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Uxinn
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Posted - 2003.09.04 11:51:00 -
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So what prices are you buying minerals/ORE at .. so we will sell to techell instead of TTI?
Just because if you say you will kill all miner's supplying minerals to TTI, you should atleast offer them alternatives... else there will be alot of angry miners out ther :)
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.09.04 12:32:00 -
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I consider it a singular honor that Manifest Destiny has joined the NVA. The Lady Jade and I had spirited discussions regarding the old VA structure and while I understood the reasons behind it the fact remains that the NVA will emerge stronger, noblier and bring properity to it's members and those who work with us.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.09.04 12:55:00 -
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Uxinn -
Contact me in game. I have a lenthy list of other manufactures in need of mineral and probably close to a location that fits your needs.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.09.04 15:13:00 -
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this is starting to sound like an ancient debate i once heard on whether the contractors helping to build a large spherical weapon of mass destruction could be considered valid military targets or innocent bystanders....
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