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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.01 22:53:00 -
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woo, not a little change. I guess I better get myself a 13000 shield instead of using 7 hardeners for my tank setup. But it will certainly make it easier for me to kill others
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.01 23:38:00 -
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If they did/do, then that would cause great imbalance. If my calculations are correct, a Armaggedon could recharge 4900 shield per boost.
ouch. I haven't logged in on chaos yet (busy on Tran), what's the stats on those modules?
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:49:00 -
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Nice move TomB, you made a tomb for a Scorp.
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The first Scorpion-class battleship was launched only a couple of years ago, and those that have been built are considered to be prototypes. Little is known of its capabilities, but what has been garnered suggests that the Scorpion is crammed to the brink with sophisticated hi-tech equipment that few can match.
A scorpion is a high-tech electronic warfare machine. It is not intended as a ning-invulnerable tank. Keep it in a support role, and use the Raven class battleship as your damage dealer.
WTF Since WHEN does "hi-tech equipment" mean the same as "high-tech electronic warfare"
In my opinion a shield hardener, in opposite to an armor exteneder, surely is a "hi-tech equipment".
Though I'm not mad about the change. I can still make a Scorpion tank if I want to.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:56:00 -
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And Tomb, please let us know when I'm gonna start dealing 360 damage and not 300 damage with my cruise missiles.
Ie, when the cruise missile skill will be fixed...
(I've not tested them after the 88 build though)
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Valeria on 02/09/2003 19:18:59
Ok I was wrong, they do stack, atleast today. And the bonus is 20%.
So an Armaggedon using a XLarge C5-L can boost 2063 shield every 4 seconds, using 400 capacitor.
That still doesn't feel right.
If this is true, STOP IT NOW. These items have to be non stackable.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:07:00 -
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The Scorp is a high tech ship and should be able to utilize technology to its advantage. The Amarr ships are heavy damage dealers; the Caldari ships are and should remain the most defensive ships.
Hmmm why don't you take a look at structure and armor values on caldari ships and compare with the rest. You ll find out that caldari are hardly the most defensive ships... infact they are the weakest ships.
Medium slots should not make a tank. Low slots should. Amarr ships... most low slots , most structure and armor hps. Those ships should be able to become tanks not the weakest ones.
You are so completely WRONG!!!
There are 2 types of defence, the high-tech defence in form of shields, the low-tech defence of armor/structure.
That's why the caldari high-tech ships have most shields in the game and most slots to boost their shield, but the lowest armor/structure and the worst ability to boost these.
And the complete opposite is true for the low-tech amarr ships. While gallente and Minmatar are something in between, trying to use a good mix of high and low tech.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 02/09/2003 22:11:13
I hope you guys really understand that it's simply not accaptable that this module is stackable.
Earlier in the thread, people are talking about that only amarr ships should have the possibility to be a tank, and that by increasing armor, and that Caldari ships shouldn't be able to be shield based tanks. That opinion is so wrong.
And now what??? Amarr ships also gets the possibilty to become an insane shield based tank!
This needs to be fixed NOW. There's NO WAY you can let the patch go live with this insane stacking module.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:47:00 -
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That a shield tank arma/apoc has to be tested before we can decide if it's really uber. As said, such a "tank" would only have a pop gun, it wouldn't deal much damage.
Yea, but the thing is: Shield hardeners were nerfed because of Scorp tanks. And a scorp with 4 neutron cannons, 2 missile launchers and 4 hybrid damage mod, probably deals less damage than an arma will do past patch fitted with 7 projectile turrets without damage mods.
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