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Camios
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2011.12.19 10:22:00 -
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Yeep wrote:Lord Zim wrote:He said encourages, not forces. Sometimes I stop reading posts at the first sentence too
Well, mine was just a tought. As long as the game is playable and enjoyable I am for freedom and options, but it seems to me that anyway there's little place for this "distributed-fights-instead-of-single-massive-battle" thing in today's EVE. Moreover I think that a distributed fight situation would be more enjoyable, with more strategy and tactics involved, and (incontroverbily) less likely to trigger performance issues, so it should be preferred over a massive battle. I asked if sort of a flexible system that allows the EVE military doctrine to evolve in this direction is being studied by CCP or lobbied by the CSM.
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Temba Ronin
30
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Posted - 2011.12.19 15:58:00 -
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Dear CSM Chairman since it is an indisputable fact that highsec ganking of players negatively impacts player retention, which in turns threatens the survival of EVE as a game we all can continue to play, I was curious as to if you would support a change in the killmail mechanics that would discourage highsec ganking of players whenever Concord action is triggered.
It would consist of this, the loss of the gank ship and it's value would count against the ganker but he would get no killmail for committing a crime and no addition to his kill versus loss isk ratio.
This way those who wish to pirate can have a more realistic experience, they are not credited for criminal activities as a reward but get to keep the loot their fellow pirates can grab from their victims wrecks and pirating as a profession remains profitable.
The hoodlums still can get all the carebear tears they claim to love so dearly but are restricted from pumping up their kill numbers with one sided combat encounters. This way killmails from this point forward will reflect those who really have the warrior spirit and not glorify the street corner gank thug.
That way if someone wants to earn killmails they can always engage in real pvp in lowsec, wormholes, nullsec, or declare war. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:29:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Dear CSM Chairman since it is an indisputable fact that highsec ganking of players negatively impacts player retention, which in turns threatens the survival of EVE as a game we all can continue to play, I was curious as to if you would support a change in the killmail mechanics that would discourage highsec ganking of players whenever Concord action is triggered.
It would consist of this, the loss of the gank ship and it's value would count against the ganker but he would get no killmail for committing a crime and no addition to his kill versus loss isk ratio.
This way those who wish to pirate can have a more realistic experience, they are not credited for criminal activities as a reward but get to keep the loot their fellow pirates can grab from their victims wrecks and pirating as a profession remains profitable.
The hoodlums still can get all the carebear tears they claim to love so dearly but are restricted from pumping up their kill numbers with one sided combat encounters. This way killmails from this point forward will reflect those who really have the warrior spirit and not glorify the street corner gank thug.
That way if someone wants to earn killmails they can always engage in real pvp in lowsec, wormholes, nullsec, or declare war. lol |

Temba Ronin
30
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:43:00 -
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Dear CSM Chairman since many profess to want more combat activities an opportunities in nullsec I am wondering if you would support a change in the Faction War mechanics that would enable Empire factions to declare war on player owned sov systems in nullsec that would become mission targets for players as individuals or as an incursion type fleet.
To more accurately reflect human nature it is unlikely that the Empires would ignore the increasing power of nullsec mega alliances without pushing back and grabbing more systems for themselves. Incursions into player owned sov space could be organized and rewarded like they are to repel the Sansha. Additionally the faction whose NPC corp members are the most numerous in the conquest of a player owned sov system would get to claim sov of the system and any player owned corp that participated in the conquest would be granted an office in an NPC station in the newly conquered null region.
This has many benefits, it gets npc corp members involved in faction warfare without limiting their ability to safely traverse Empire space, it gives player owned sov alliances something to do beyond attacking their smaller neighbors, it would create potentially huge battles on a more frequent basis, it gets a lot more people into having a stake in nullsec, and it would force the game to grow.
To get the fleet or mission runner to the player owned sov system a series of jump bridges accessible only to mission runners or incursion fleets could be established in dead space zones throughout lowsec and nullsec. If you really support more activity in nullsec and more people having an interest in nullsec i ask you to both support and help improve this idea.
Nullsec and EVE in general is on the precipice of stagnation an I believe making the game playing experience both more dangerous and rewarding will infuse a much needed dose of action based playability.
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Temba Ronin
30
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:02:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Temba Ronin wrote:Dear CSM Chairman since it is an indisputable fact that highsec ganking of players negatively impacts player retention, which in turns threatens the survival of EVE as a game we all can continue to play, I was curious as to if you would support a change in the killmail mechanics that would discourage highsec ganking of players whenever Concord action is triggered.
It would consist of this, the loss of the gank ship and it's value would count against the ganker but he would get no killmail for committing a crime and no addition to his kill versus loss isk ratio.
This way those who wish to pirate can have a more realistic experience, they are not credited for criminal activities as a reward but get to keep the loot their fellow pirates can grab from their victims wrecks and pirating as a profession remains profitable.
The hoodlums still can get all the carebear tears they claim to love so dearly but are restricted from pumping up their kill numbers with one sided combat encounters. This way killmails from this point forward will reflect those who really have the warrior spirit and not glorify the street corner gank thug.
That way if someone wants to earn killmails they can always engage in real pvp in lowsec, wormholes, nullsec, or declare war. lol You haven't had a solo kill against anybody who could fight back in how long Scat? Ooohhh your pvp skills are soooo scary, lol. Thanks for proving my point. |

Jonathan Malcom
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13
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Posted - 2011.12.19 22:10:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:You haven't had a solo kill against anybody who could fight back in how long Scat? Ooohhh your pvp skills are soooo scary, lol. Thanks for proving my point.
Honouerable solo kills are indeed the mark of greatness in Eve.
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Imigo Montoya
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.12.19 23:05:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Summary: Remove killmails from suicide ganking Allow NPC corps to take over player sov systems
Ah, no and no.
Killmails are simply a record of a kill, k/d ratio isn't everything. Besides, it's really not such a one-sided fight, at least not in favour of the ganker - the gankee gets unbeatable, irresistible NPCs spawning to fight with them.
NPC corps have no place in player sov systems, that's what NPC sov space is for and NPC corp players are welcome to move there already. |

Forum Fighter
Internet Tough Guys
23
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Posted - 2011.12.20 01:33:00 -
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Dear Goons,
Where will you head to after WN and Raiden spank you?
Freeport IRC space! Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil Hat -¬ |

May Zonday
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2011.12.20 04:53:00 -
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Forum Fighter wrote:Dear Goons,
Where will you head to after WN and Raiden spank you?
Freeport IRC space!
Hold on, I'll answer that once we're done bathing in the blood of aborted Titans.
wait hahaha white noise can't afford that their russian masters sell off all their tech moon isk for caviar baths. |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
224
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Posted - 2011.12.20 05:08:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Dear CSM Chairman since many profess to want more combat activities an opportunities in nullsec I am wondering if you would support a change in the Faction War mechanics that would enable Empire factions to declare war on player owned sov systems in nullsec that would become mission targets for players as individuals or as an incursion type fleet.
One, you don't need to declare a war on anyone to shoot them in nullsec.
Two, what's stopping you from getting a few friends together and going on an "incursion" into any alliance owned space right now?
Do you people seriously need an NPC to tell you everything to do step by step? |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1066
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Posted - 2011.12.20 10:27:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Dear CSM Chairman since it is an indisputable fact that highsec ganking of players negatively impacts player retention, Why do you have to go and crap all over the Chairman's nice thread like this? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
42
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:47:00 -
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I'm sure that if NPC corps or factions can wardec player entities, the reverse would also be true. I'm sure the little carebear forgot to think about that.
Personally I'd love the watch the nullsec vs highsec show :)
First to take jita gets a cookie ;P
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Temba Ronin
31
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:44:00 -
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Ya Huei wrote:I'm sure that if NPC corps or factions can wardec player entities, the reverse would also be true. I'm sure the little carebear forgot to think about that.
Personally I'd love the watch the nullsec vs highsec show :)
First to take jita gets a cookie ;P
Are you really so delusional as to think you could defeat Concord and all the fleets of Empire space?
This is how the nullsec vs highsec show goes brainiac, all the gates from nullsec get interdicted by huge Empire Navy and Concord fleets, you get blasted every time you jump a gate into highsec by a military gate camp, those few who survive the initial gauntlet get blasted every time they approach a station by station guns and you aren't allowed to dock, all the while you get hunted relentlessly by Concord and the Empire Navies, the Militia, and all the carebears of highsec who significantly out number you an are now getting paid incursion like bounties from Concord to give you a free pod ride out of highsec.
You no longer get bounties for ratting back home in nullsec because those are paid by Concord/ The Empires and you are now at war with them.
You have to survive off of what you can build in nullsec and that is going to be damn hard since you shoot the miners and only your alts have industrial skills.
When you start to run out of supplies or your neighbor does and invades your system to steal your's you'll be easy pickings for the highsec Militias and your now desperate neighbors while you are mining to get materials to make ammo or power your pos. Remember cyno's don't work in highsec but they'll keep delivering the pain to you in nullsec with Empire Naval and Militia forces as well as your blood thirsty opportunistic neighbors.
Don't think you really want to see this show, nullsec vs highsec doesn't end well for nullsec. No cookie just a trip to your medical clone. |

Tasiv Deka
NOVA INDUSTRIES CO.
12
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Posted - 2011.12.20 13:03:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Ya Huei wrote:I'm sure that if NPC corps or factions can wardec player entities, the reverse would also be true. I'm sure the little carebear forgot to think about that.
Personally I'd love the watch the nullsec vs highsec show :)
First to take jita gets a cookie ;P
Are you really so delusional as to think you could defeat Concord and all the fleets of Empire space? This is how the nullsec vs highsec show goes brainiac, all the gates from nullsec get interdicted by huge Empire Navy and Concord fleets, you get blasted every time you jump a gate into highsec by a military gate camp, those few who survive the initial gauntlet get blasted every time they approach a station by station guns and you aren't allowed to dock, all the while you get hunted relentlessly by Concord and the Empire Navies, the Militia, and all the carebears of highsec who significantly out number you an are now getting paid incursion like bounties from Concord to give you a free pod ride out of highsec. You no longer get bounties for ratting back home in nullsec because those are paid by Concord/ The Empires and you are now at war with them. You have to survive off of what you can build in nullsec and that is going to be damn hard since you shoot the miners and only your alts have industrial skills. When you start to run out of supplies or your neighbor does and invades your system to steal your's you'll be easy pickings for the highsec Militias and your now desperate neighbors while you are mining to get materials to make ammo or power your pos. Remember cyno's don't work in highsec but they'll keep delivering the pain to you in nullsec with Empire Naval and Militia forces as well as your blood thirsty opportunistic neighbors. Don't think you really want to see this show, nullsec vs highsec doesn't end well for nullsec. No cookie just a trip to your medical clone.
i had a clever response typed out then decided he wasnt worth it... please shut up nullsec is far more organized then 95% of us highsec dwellers... CCP add another race of ships into the game... Not even the people just the ships... now i know there would be all sorts of copyright issues to iron out... but i want to fly an Irken Titan known as the "Massive"... Invader Zim is an amazing show. |

Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
42
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Posted - 2011.12.20 13:23:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Ya Huei wrote:I'm sure that if NPC corps or factions can wardec player entities, the reverse would also be true. I'm sure the little carebear forgot to think about that.
Personally I'd love the watch the nullsec vs highsec show :)
First to take jita gets a cookie ;P
Are you really so delusional as to think you could defeat Concord and all the fleets of Empire space? This is how the nullsec vs highsec show goes brainiac, all the gates from nullsec get interdicted by huge Empire Navy and Concord fleets, you get blasted every time you jump a gate into highsec by a military gate camp, those few who survive the initial gauntlet get blasted every time they approach a station by station guns and you aren't allowed to dock, all the while you get hunted relentlessly by Concord and the Empire Navies, the Militia, and all the carebears of highsec who significantly out number you an are now getting paid incursion like bounties from Concord to give you a free pod ride out of highsec. You no longer get bounties for ratting back home in nullsec because those are paid by Concord/ The Empires and you are now at war with them. You have to survive off of what you can build in nullsec and that is going to be damn hard since you shoot the miners and only your alts have industrial skills. When you start to run out of supplies or your neighbor does and invades your system to steal your's you'll be easy pickings for the highsec Militias and your now desperate neighbors while you are mining to get materials to make ammo or power your pos. Remember cyno's don't work in highsec but they'll keep delivering the pain to you in nullsec with Empire Naval and Militia forces as well as your blood thirsty opportunistic neighbors. Don't think you really want to see this show, nullsec vs highsec doesn't end well for nullsec. No cookie just a trip to your medical clone.
Concord won't do jack since we properly wardecced, they will pay rat bounties like always. I have no idea what u mean by "Fleets of Empire space" but if u mean the people that actually live in highsec.. allow me to chuckle...
Also, I'm afraid you will be surprised how vast null will close ranks if they get even half the chance to blob your arrogant highsec asses.
Now go back to your incursions before u make more of a fool of yourself.
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Temba Ronin
31
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Posted - 2011.12.20 13:27:00 -
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i had a clever response typed out then decided he wasnt worth it... please shut up nullsec is far more organized then 95% of us highsec dwellers...[/quote]
You know this because you spend so much time in nullsec right? Of course you've talked with thousands of highsec players & nullsec players and made a critical analysis right?
Or is you you admire the afraid to undock alone swarm of juveniles .... nothing wrong with that .... unless of course you have a functional brain. EVE needs a balance between things that favor a spoiled minority versus the things that work for the greater good of all the players. Asking people politely to shut up will not help us find the balance the game needs to attract and retain players.
I enjoy this game and what to see it survive beyond the current goon csm6 version that delights in having new players leave the game discouraged. |

Temba Ronin
31
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Posted - 2011.12.20 13:50:00 -
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Ya Huei wrote:Temba Ronin wrote:Ya Huei wrote:I'm sure that if NPC corps or factions can wardec player entities, the reverse would also be true. I'm sure the little carebear forgot to think about that.
Personally I'd love the watch the nullsec vs highsec show :)
First to take jita gets a cookie ;P
Are you really so delusional as to think you could defeat Concord and all the fleets of Empire space? This is how the nullsec vs highsec show goes brainiac, all the gates from nullsec get interdicted by huge Empire Navy and Concord fleets, you get blasted every time you jump a gate into highsec by a military gate camp, those few who survive the initial gauntlet get blasted every time they approach a station by station guns and you aren't allowed to dock, all the while you get hunted relentlessly by Concord and the Empire Navies, the Militia, and all the carebears of highsec who significantly out number you an are now getting paid incursion like bounties from Concord to give you a free pod ride out of highsec. You no longer get bounties for ratting back home in nullsec because those are paid by Concord/ The Empires and you are now at war with them. You have to survive off of what you can build in nullsec and that is going to be damn hard since you shoot the miners and only your alts have industrial skills. When you start to run out of supplies or your neighbor does and invades your system to steal your's you'll be easy pickings for the highsec Militias and your now desperate neighbors while you are mining to get materials to make ammo or power your pos. Remember cyno's don't work in highsec but they'll keep delivering the pain to you in nullsec with Empire Naval and Militia forces as well as your blood thirsty opportunistic neighbors. Don't think you really want to see this show, nullsec vs highsec doesn't end well for nullsec. No cookie just a trip to your medical clone. Concord won't do jack since we properly wardecced, they will pay rat bounties like always. I have no idea what u mean by "Fleets of Empire space" but if u mean the people that actually live in highsec.. allow me to chuckle... Also, I'm afraid you will be surprised how vast null will close ranks if they get even half the chance to blob your arrogant highsec asses. Now go back to your incursions before u make more of a fool of yourself. You properly wardecced the Empires and Concord won't do jack ???? hahahahaha! You represent the clown sitting at home cleaning his rifle because he thinks its protection from a tyrannical government, a government that has an Army that has tanks and jet aircraft that would blow his silly ass away if they were indeed tyrannical. The CCP fleet of employees with only their max skills could walk thru any and every nullsec system and wipe your gang of hooligans from nullsec with little trouble. Watch the videos bro. Concord has instant targeting and massive firepower. Chuckle if that is what makes you feel good but in this match up your blobs get wiped from the field just like before CCP caved in to the nullsec tears and nerfed the supercaps to appease the tearful goon csm6 because their low brow strategy of swarm attacks couldn't succeed anymore. Now with the advantage swung back to mindless blob warfare they are once again finding targets other then highsec miners to shoot, fearless warriors that they are.
Just think things thru before you post them and you will not continue to look like the south end of a north bound mule. |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
316
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Posted - 2011.12.20 13:51:00 -
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Hey, here's an idea. Tell the guys in your NPC corp that you want them to go take over some system in nullsec.
Come back to us if you get any response other than "but I could lose my multibillion faction-fit navy raven! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" |

Temba Ronin
31
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:02:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Hey, here's an idea. Tell the guys in your NPC corp that you want them to go take over some system in nullsec.
Come back to us if you get any response other than "but I could lose my multibillion faction-fit navy raven! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" Hey here's a better idea ask the brave goons to only fight when they outnumber their opponent 10 to 1 instead of your normal heroic 20 to 50 to one and come back if you get any response other than "but i might lose a chance to get a kill board mention as a .001 percent damage dealer! nooooooooooooo!"
Bat Country is a glass house don't start to throw stones Zim. |

Velicitia
Open Designs
221
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:11:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Hey, here's an idea. Tell the guys in your NPC corp that you want them to go take over some system in nullsec.
Come back to us if you get any response other than "but I could lose my multibillion faction-fit navy raven! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
"But I could lose my Paladin!"
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
98
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:16:00 -
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Kata Amentis wrote:The Mittani wrote: I think Incursions are superior in all ways to L4 missions. They generate content, socialization, and in some cases PvP. They're a great way for corps to form and recruit.
Very true, the social side is by far the best thing about incursions. The isk is nice, but the social side takes away the boring grind of making isk.
Listening to one person call different sansha primaries is not really socializing. But I guess to some it is - or they don't want to admit its really just about the isk. Like you say the isk is nice.
I think CCP assumes people who play EVE are socially defunct. They are constantly assuming we need to "socialize" more and therefore mechanics that force even the most basic utterances are seen as superior to those that don't.
Why does ccp assume its subscribers are looking to a computer game to be their social network?
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
316
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:16:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Hey here's a better idea ask the brave goons to only fight when they outnumber their opponent 10 to 1 instead of your normal heroic 20 to 50 to one and come back if you get any response other than "but i might lose a chance to get a kill board mention as a .001 percent damage dealer! nooooooooooooo!"
Bat Country is a glass house don't start to throw stones Zim. Hey, you're the one that's talking about NPC corps going into nullsec and taking over systems as a part of some sort of factional warfare. I'm just telling you to ask the people in NPC corps if they'd like to do this. I'd love to see hisec actually try to **** with nullsec, but I'm pretty certain that those in hisec aren't going to do what you want, no matter whether there's some mission or not, because they could lose their ships. |

Temba Ronin
31
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:29:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Temba Ronin wrote:Hey here's a better idea ask the brave goons to only fight when they outnumber their opponent 10 to 1 instead of your normal heroic 20 to 50 to one and come back if you get any response other than "but i might lose a chance to get a kill board mention as a .001 percent damage dealer! nooooooooooooo!"
Bat Country is a glass house don't start to throw stones Zim. Hey, you're the one that's talking about NPC corps going into nullsec and taking over systems as a part of some sort of factional warfare. I'm just telling you to ask the people in NPC corps if they'd like to do this. I'd love to see hisec actually try to **** with nullsec, but I'm pretty certain that those in hisec aren't going to do what you want, no matter whether there's some mission or not, because they could lose their ships. That would be because you seem to not fundamentally understand the difference between choosing to risk your ship (as pve players do all day everyday) and having a swarm of juvenile acting brats flying throw away ships destroy your instrument for making isk for kicks. Pve players lose ships all the time and just replace them. We figure how to better fit or fight the ship so it does not happen the same way again. The myth that pve players are adverse to losing ships is nonsense! What is distasteful is losing a ship to a punk thug who enjoys having the game mechanics set up to support his limited thinking style of gameplay.
Lets raise the bar and improve the game. Why are the loudest proponents of PVP so afraid of fair fights? |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
316
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:35:00 -
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So, have you asked them yet? |

Temba Ronin
31
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:45:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:So, have you asked them yet? Is that your way of ignoring the fact that your false on it's face assertions that PVE players are afraid to risk ships doesn't hold up to the simple fact that PVE players risk their ships twice as often as goons flying in their safe Alliance enclaves surrounded by blue toadies? PVE players are targeted by NPC threats and gank threats everyday. How much risk are you under surrounded by your swarm? |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
316
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Posted - 2011.12.20 15:06:00 -
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No. It's my way of asking you if you've asked how enthusiastic your NPC brethren were of invading any nullsec.
I've flown in wormhole systems, nullsec, lowsec and hisec for well over 3 years, I've never gotten ganked in hisec. I have, however, gotten ganked more than once in nullsec and lowsec.
Also heh, "NPC threats". Right. |

Takara Mora
University of Caille Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2011.12.20 15:08:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Lord Zim wrote:So, have you asked them yet? Is that your way of ignoring the fact that your false on it's face assertions that PVE players are afraid to risk ships doesn't hold up to the simple fact that PVE players risk their ships twice as often as goons flying in their safe Alliance enclaves surrounded by blue toadies? PVE players are targeted by NPC threats and gank threats everyday. How much risk are you under surrounded by your swarm?
Well, I think you have a bit of a point here at least Temba ... PVE players do risk ships often (and lose them) .... ship loss isn't what's keeping carebears from PVP'ing.
When I talk to other hisec players about trying out some PVP though, their reaction is usually "Why, what's the point?" ... i.e. - you don't make much isk (without becoming a professional pirate and maybe not even then), and about the only thing you DO get from it, is lowered security status ..... and there's almost no way to get a "fair fight" (even if you can agree what that is) .... so it's likely not going to feel REWARDING to your ego either .... you'll likely lose due to neutral reppers, it'll devolve into docking games, or you'll so outgun the other guy that it'll be like taking candy from a baby. There's always suicide ganking .... but again ... there's really nothing anyone can do to stop a suicide gank (yeah, they can try tanking their hulk and "staying aligned" while mining (laughable), or keep buddies on hand to "defend" (but there's no real way even a fleet can defend against a suicide)) but where's the feeling of accomplishment?
In order to care about PVP, I pretty much have to step back to kindergarten and play a bully ... it's Bully or Be Bullied ... and NONE of these PVP scenarios will FEEL like an accomplishment ... so WHY should anyone care to PVP?
There's much more of a feeling of accomplishment to figuring out research and manufacturing chains, building cool stuff without losing isk, market PVP, building a killer set of standings & skills that let you anchor POS's & make isk on the market when no one else can ..... etc.
There needs to be more to it, before hisec carebears will care about PVP .... |

Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
42
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Posted - 2011.12.20 15:09:00 -
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A highsec wardec in eve between two player parties means that they can blow the **** out of eachother without Concord interfering.
It would only be logical that this would remain true when an empire faction wardecs a player faction, since Concord is an independant entity.
So ye.. concord wouldn't do anything.
I can't comment on the fictional NPC navies that might, or might not appear to come save your sorry arse from certain death.
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Temba Ronin
31
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Posted - 2011.12.20 15:11:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:No. It's my way of asking you if you've asked how enthusiastic your NPC brethren were of invading any nullsec.
I've flown in wormhole systems, nullsec, lowsec and hisec for well over 3 years, I've never gotten ganked in hisec. I have, however, gotten ganked more than once in nullsec and lowsec.
Also heh, "NPC threats". Right. Never been ganked in highsec Zim? Let me know when you will visit again in a cargo hauler and i'll see if some of my PVE friends in highsec can give you the experience you've missed thus far. I spend my time skulking around null looking for the rarest target in all of EVE ..... a goon flying alone.
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
316
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Posted - 2011.12.20 15:19:00 -
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Temba Ronin wrote:Never been ganked in highsec Zim? Let me know when you will visit again in a cargo hauler and i'll see if some of my PVE friends in highsec can give you the experience you've missed thus far. I spend my time skulking around null looking for the rarest target in all of EVE ..... a goon flying alone. I fly cargo haulers around in hisec all the time, it's one of the few things my hisec alt does. Haul ****, manufacture ****, sell ****. No missions, I got bored of them.
But please, do tell us about these ~NPC threats~. |
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