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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.02.16 00:51:00 -
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I return to E-R 
my 3 days are ASCN is over lol.
About ASCN i have only 2 things to say...
First - ASCN HC, overall your good guys, Cyvok and certain others have my respect, Steelrat and Murphy, you are fools. I joined ASCN in the hopes of helping ASCN, i offered my FC experience and my game time.... steelrat instead decided throw a hissy fit and wave his e-peen around. Fairplay. If i had any isk, and the need to prove myself i would fight a duel with Steelrat, but lets be honest here, in any real sence ingame he doesn't matter in the slightest  My e-peen is of no consequence to me, flame on Steelrat alts, i don't give a rats ass lol
Secondly - I enjoyed my short time in ASCN, i have to admit, that the IXC guys are awesome and i have mad respect for them and their leadership, i know i caused Virt ALOT of problems regarding my membership and for that i apoligise, all i wanted was a fresh start but due to some peoples inability to move on, that phase in my eve life is over.
As it seems that i will never escape the PVP persona, i have decided to throw myself into it fully and now you will see what i am capable of (RL willing). Let the galaxy burn
1 thing i was really surprised with, and to be frank, overwelmed with, was the massive positive responce i received from the general ASCN population, i would take a guess that 80%+ of ASCN welcomed my app and liked me being there, weather or not that was real or just my impression, i guess we'll never know. ASCN, good going boys, and to Cyvok i say, Respect to you fella, you've done a great job there and apart from a few notable exceptions, you have a great crew.
Maybe later on in EVE, once the e-peen waving is over, perhaps our 2 sides could work well together, until then, NBSI.
Short Version - Carts back in E-R, RAWR ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Eleese
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff
I return to E-R 
my 3 days are ASCN is over lol.
About ASCN i have only 2 things to say...
First - ASCN HC, overall your good guys, Cyvok and certain others have my respect, Steelrat and Murphy, you are fools. I joined ASCN in the hopes of helping ASCN, i offered my FC experience and my game time.... steelrat instead decided throw a hissy fit and wave his e-peen around. Fairplay. If i had any isk, and the need to prove myself i would fight a duel with Steelrat, but lets be honest here, in any real sence ingame he doesn't matter in the slightest  My e-peen is of no consequence to me, flame on Steelrat alts, i don't give a rats ass lol
Secondly - I enjoyed my short time in ASCN, i have to admit, that the IXC guys are awesome and i have mad respect for them and their leadership, i know i caused Virt ALOT of problems regarding my membership and for that i apoligise, all i wanted was a fresh start but due to some peoples inability to move on, that phase in my eve life is over.
As it seems that i will never escape the PVP persona, i have decided to throw myself into it fully and now you will see what i am capable of (RL willing). Let the galaxy burn
1 thing i was really surprised with, and to be frank, overwelmed with, was the massive positive responce i received from the general ASCN population, i would take a guess that 80%+ of ASCN welcomed my app and liked me being there, weather or not that was real or just my impression, i guess we'll never know. ASCN, good going boys, and to Cyvok i say, Respect to you fella, you've done a great job there and apart from a few notable exceptions, you have a great crew.
Maybe later on in EVE, once the e-peen waving is over, perhaps our 2 sides could work well together, until then, NBSI.
Short Version - Carts back in E-R, RAWR
vast majority genuinely welcomed you back :) including me. But well i left... |

Poister
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:19:00 -
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nice to see you back , I look forward to ya next post 
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:19:00 -
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no offence mate but what i got from this, and knowing steelrat is the following
cartif: hey guys im that uber leader of e-r coming to help you and show you my uber fc skills.
ascn members: who the hell is the f*g?
steelrat: hey cartiff thanks and all but like be a part of the team before leading it! k
cartif: sc*ew you guys im going home
im not trying to flame it just seems like that to me
STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW |

Trepkos
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:21:00 -
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You're back in E-R.
<3 Cartiff  --------
Recruitment
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii no offence mate but what i got from this, and knowing steelrat is the following
cartif: hey guys im that uber leader of e-r coming to help you and show you my uber fc skills.
ascn members: who the hell is the f*g?
steelrat: hey cartiff thanks and all but like be a part of the team before leading it! k
cartif: sc*ew you guys im going home
im not trying to flame it just seems like that to me
LOL, i didn't even lead a gang, said no when leadership was offered, so i dunno where that came from, i just kept my head down, worked with IXC, stayed out of impass to avoid any flashes with DDC, got to know the ladz and generally just played the game, only pvp'd twice, once in a gang lead by IXC and once solo
----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:22:00 -
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I joined ASCN in the hopes of helping ASCN, i offered my FC experience and my game time.... steelrat instead decided throw a hissy fit and wave his e-peen around
im my interpretation i didnt say you had led fleets i mearley posted how i thought your offer went. as you stated above you offered your fc abilities vast as they are in bs combat and i felt i could give an insight on how that might go down with ascn STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW |

sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii I joined ASCN in the hopes of helping ASCN, i offered my FC experience and my game time.... steelrat instead decided throw a hissy fit and wave his e-peen around
im my interpretation i didnt say you had led fleets i mearley posted how i thought your offer went. as you stated above you offered your fc abilities vast as they are in bs combat and i felt i could give an insight on how that might go down with ascn
Come on stan, stop busting his balls. ________ Shinra
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:31:00 -
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It's a shame it didn't work out for you Cartiff. Some people do need to realise this is just a game and all you did was go from the red team to the blue team. We're all the same really. I'm sure you would have fought as vehemently for ASCN as you did for E-R so it's definately their loss. __
Originally by: Galaxian
I'd like to add that as a penalty for warping out, Chowdown recieved a /heal0 from the devs, and his ship promptly exploded.
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MakkAnzy
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:33:00 -
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I am unashameably happy that your back to killing ASCN which means also killing The Five :D
ASCN's nap list is just wrong!
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: KSUDruid on 16/02/2006 01:38:47 And you felt the need to show up, tell everyone about how Steelrat and murphy are teh big bad bullies in ascn, and you're gonna go back home to e-r where everyone strokes you better?
One Word: LOL
Obvious Flamebait
Click.
EDIT: Crap wrong char 
-Druid
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:47:00 -
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what can i say, my fragile ego needs regular stroking, like other things  ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.02.16 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid
Obvious Flamebait
*goes about stocking up some fuel and flamethrows in the corner*
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Steel Rat
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Posted - 2006.02.16 02:00:00 -
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I assume this is what you wanted, so lets get the party started shall we?
Its been no secret that you and I don't get along. Now if it was a simple matter of me thinkin your a pinhead, I probably wouldn't have an issue you joining IXC or any other corp in ASCN. But, this is more than me just thinking your a pinhead.
Altho this is a game, we make choices in a game. I for 1 still hold your character responsible for those actions. You chose to have a personal vendetta against ASCN going on what now? 6-7 months or more? You have bashed Cyvok, Me, ASCN repeatedly every chance you got and because you wanted to be a turncoat on your own people, I am suppose to bow down and kiss your ...? Now maybe if I somewhat liked you to begin with, you might have a chance, but I don't like you. So what the hell makes anyone think I would sit back and let 1 of ASCNs biggest enemies walk through the door and not voice my opinion is beyond me.
I do find it humorous the new tact some of our enemies are taking recently. Keep bashing me boys, keep stirring that pot, she's going to blow here soon.
Steel Rat DDC CEO
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.02.16 02:03:00 -
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i don't think Ive ever really smacked cyvok, but feel free to look through the forums to find quotse to prove me wrong.
I dunno why we don't get along steelrat, maybe its clashing ego's or something? Can i get a hug? ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Shittake
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Posted - 2006.02.16 02:10:00 -
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Cartiff, you are welcome to come live at my POS for a few weeks, make yourself a few billion mining Crokite to fund whatever ebil plans you have for the future :)
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2006.02.16 02:17:00 -
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Stop making a fool of yourself. You should be spending more time with Ryan anyway.
Living in the sunlight, loving in the moonlight |

Viktor More
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Posted - 2006.02.16 02:23:00 -
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Interesting observation. I would have to side with Cartiff on this one. They do seem a little bit uptight.
I use to fly with Cartiff along time ago before I got rid of my account because one of his pilots was an idiot (But thats another story).
I almost joined ASCN but now I will rethink my decision.
Thanks, Cartiff, I owe you one. 
Yes, this is an Alt, No it is not Cartiff's
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.02.16 02:37:00 -
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Ryan gives me evil looks atm cos he just had his first set of injection thingys. ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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CdCommander
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Posted - 2006.02.16 03:17:00 -
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good to see you back in E-R
hobbit land gets boring once your wallet is full
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.16 03:35:00 -
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It was never going to last.
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Parity
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Posted - 2006.02.16 04:16:00 -
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Ascn peeps ffs its just a game ...
vendeta? wtf? lol...
-= FrEE4ALL 4TW! =- |

Platina
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Posted - 2006.02.16 04:16:00 -
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we wouldnt push ya away carty:>-p
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2006.02.16 04:16:00 -
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<3 cartiff
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Revolution
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Posted - 2006.02.16 05:27:00 -
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<3 steelrat
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2006.02.16 06:12:00 -
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it is just a game, and some people understand that. It is very clear who understands that, I knwo e-r has taken in ex ascna nd ex enemie sin general no matter how much or how little they smacked previously, cause they understand its a game and its played to have fun. Not saying that cartiff smacked, because he rarely did, but even so some people just dont understand that games are meant for fun.
Removed, inappropriate signature image - zhuge |

Hobblah
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Posted - 2006.02.16 06:43:00 -
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Somehow all I can think about this is that balance has been restored to universe :)
GL to Cartiff back in E-R.
-Hobblah
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2006.02.16 08:52:00 -
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Toads are really penguins in disguise.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |

Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2006.02.16 10:55:00 -
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I guess we'll see more pointless E-R posts/announcements popping up over the next few weeks now cartif is back :)
do me a favour, go up north and spank celes again, and again, and again, then make a post about that, that i will read.
imagine if leno made posts everytime he left and joined another corp O_o
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Evane McRory
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Posted - 2006.02.16 11:31:00 -
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We'll miss you Cart, sorry it didn't work out & sorry for messing you about.

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Joram McRory
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Posted - 2006.02.16 11:32:00 -
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That was, fairly obviously, me ^^ Joram
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.02.16 11:41:00 -
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I hereby promise, at least 1 E-R post per fortnight, as i know you all love em so much.
We are up north atm, but F-E are our primary targets, as lets be franks here, shafted our mates, and so we would be remis in our duty as honourable people if we didn't throw some toys at F-E ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2006.02.16 11:57:00 -
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lol @ these 2 threads.
i,m leaving.
I'm leaving.
Gratz.
KIA Piccys
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2006.02.16 12:00:00 -
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Thanks for sharing  --- Linkage
Sigs are limited to 24,000; Please reduce it's size. - Ductoris |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2006.02.16 12:02:00 -
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LIES...My E-PEEN is the biggest 
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.02.16 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tehel Necrona I guess we'll see more pointless E-R posts/announcements popping up over the next few weeks now cartif is back :)
do me a favour, go up north and spank celes again, and again, and again, then make a post about that, that i will read.
imagine if leno made posts everytime he left and joined another corp O_o
Please do! We want more people to fight. :D
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Gissa
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Posted - 2006.02.16 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ lol @ these 2 threads.
i,m leaving.
I'm leaving.
Gratz.
lol at fake contracts 
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.02.16 12:18:00 -
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tbh, every other outcome wouldve surprised me.
and steelrats statement is a very good one imo. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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lordmix
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Posted - 2006.02.16 13:20:00 -
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.02.16 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff
 My e-peen is of no consequence to me, flame on Steelrat alts, i don't give a rats ass lol
Yes it is, otherwise you wouldn't make a forum post everytime you had a pot of tea.
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Dahin
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Posted - 2006.02.16 15:03:00 -
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lies, all lies.
I bet cartiff got bored of seeing blues all over the place and he decided to correct the situation. Ontop of that, they don't even shoot neutrals, WTF?
Come, take us to the mining fields of ascn now cart.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.02.16 19:48:00 -
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Well, i don't know what went down. By what i can gather from the other posters here, it was either a personality clash between Cartiff and some leading figures in ASCN or just some of the high-ups in ASCN are still upset that we were killing them under Cartiff's leadership.
People are free to make their own decisions, i'm just amazed they didn't want to keep Cartiff. He might come off as a temperamental fellow if you don't know him long enough, but that is what makes him an inspirational leader in combat. I might not always agree 100% with him (hey, we are all people of different minds after all), but I'm not exaggerating in the slightest when i say that i would follow him anywhere,anyhow,anytime.
In any case, i think ASCN's decision might be slightly short-sighted. Trust is something that you can build up over time for the sake of keeping a valuable pilot. Just look at ex-PA and ex-Iron pilots in BoB.
A good soldier who's not interested much in politics is a valuable asset for any alliance, just point him to a place in the map, tell him to shoot and he might lead your tropps to victory. Maybe he was perceived as a threat by some people running the show inside the "hive of bees" that is ASCN, who knows?
Anyway, i'm not sorry in the slightest about this, their loss is our gain. 
Welcome back mate, we missed you already 
Originally by: Black Lotus I vote u for KIA spokesperson.
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JerrySpringer
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Posted - 2006.02.16 20:33:00 -
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Personality politics ruled Xetic and personality politics rules ASCN.
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Davlin Lotze
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Posted - 2006.02.16 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Parity Ascn peeps ffs its just a game ...
vendeta? wtf? lol...
They will never fathom that singular fact. Ironically and paradoxically, the "corrective" stimulus for ASCN will have to come from people who know "it's just a game" yet who will have to be vigilant and dedicated in their own right to rid the galaxy of the filthy hobbit scourge.
But hell, I got time. They just got a new server I heard. This Eve thang is going to be around a long long time 
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Malken
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Posted - 2006.02.16 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tehel Necrona
do me a favour, go up north and spank celes again, and again, and again, then make a post about that, that i will read.
lol, i guess you tried yourself already as i see after seing a little vid from Dabster with nto so satisfactory result 
Cartiff, just do what you feel most fun and dont give a flying *bleep* about what anyone else thinks, its your fun so enjoy yourself.
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Vina
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Posted - 2006.02.16 21:42:00 -
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Who cares what you do in eve tbh, cartiff. -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |

BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.02.16 21:49:00 -
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ZOMG!!!WE DO!!!!
Originally by: Black Lotus I vote u for KIA spokesperson.
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.02.16 22:21:00 -
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Thank goodness opposite week is over. Cartiff in ASCN is like.......I dunno Atuk saying that they are all going to empire to mine veld in Jita with BoB while ASCN war decs noob corps. It's just....unnatural.
I am just glad Shinra didn't join STK. I was positive that was a sign that the apocalypse was upon us.
Can't say I am sorry it didn't work out Cart. It's good to have you back. ASCN's loss, although I can understand the paranoia that seems to have made a few of them leery of ya. It's just a game though, hope you can find a good balance this time round.
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.02.16 22:41:00 -
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Cartiff = win. All who above - n00bs.
----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =) |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.16 22:45:00 -
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all above doesnt include page before does it thug STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW |

Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.02.16 22:46:00 -
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i dont know  ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =) |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.16 22:50:00 -
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well lets say your not cos tbh my insults were fun the others are just lame STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW |

Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.02.16 23:07:00 -
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Um shame to see you going Cartiff, I think most people had no problem with you but infortunately that didnt include the HCs :\
On the other hand, making a second post is a bit lame... the first one is understandable since the oddity of you joining ascn but this second post is for teh lose 
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.02.16 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff
I return to E-R 
Short Version - Carts back in E-R, RAWR
Thanks for the heads up, but this topic doesn't belong here. This isn't personal forum, it is Corps, alliance, and organization and you don't fit.
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