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Nooey
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Posted - 2006.02.27 07:58:00 -
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There's a difference between incorrect slander and plain slander.
You failed to see the subtleties of the words I chose. Nooey grins and winks.
One arouses my wrath, the other my indifference. If somebody disagrees with our approach based on the facts, fine, let them whine. If somebody disagrees with our approach based off some non-existant fairytale perspective, then they better be ready to back their fantasy up.
As far as your claims of a "PR Disaster" and "Rootless quests for Vengeance"...All I have to say is if you don't desire justice for Palermo at any cost, even the loss of public face, then we are speaking from entirely different places. I can respect your desire to maintain public face at all costs, to an extent. Can you do the same?
As far as Zaitsev is concerned, my faith in him is absolute, my trust unwavering. What he says is law. Simple as that. I don't care what anyone else thinks, acting on his directives will always be in my self-interest, regardless of the consequences. Judge that all you want. You don't know me and you don't know my motivations.
The only thing Omerta cares about is inner loyalty and outer integrity.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2006.02.27 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 27/02/2006 08:12:58
 Originally by: Nooey
All I have to say is if you don't desire justice for Palermo at any cost, even the loss of public face, then we are speaking from entirely different places. I can respect your desire to maintain public face at all costs, to an extent. Can you do the same?
I'd simply say that quests for revenge is, most of the time, an ineffective venture and therefore not worth pursuing. It is only worth pursuing when it is a secondary objective in pursuit of a higher goal.
Regarding total faith in Zaitzev - don't abdicate your own mind. Ever.
And regarding outer integrity - that's what I was talking about, wasn't it? 
edit: typo
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Nooey
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Posted - 2006.02.27 08:43:00 -
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You can't say it's ineffective until you can look at it with hindsight, the war is far from over, so I'd hold off from judgement.
You know nothing about my situation, so I'd hold off judging what has and has not been "abdicated" as well.
We are clearly working off different understandings of integrity. For me it means cohesion and utmost adherance to one's principles. In those two things, no Omertan will stray.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2006.02.27 08:51:00 -
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And you are entirely sure that Omerta has stayed true to it's principles?
I'm not. But then again, I'm not serving as it's Political Officer anymore, so what do I know...
As far as abdication though, you said that "acting on [Zaitzevs] directives will always be in [your] self-interest". That is what I reacted too, it looks like you're reducing yourself to "whatever the man says". But that's a different discussion. We can have that one in private sometime.
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Soltha SIl
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Posted - 2006.02.27 11:41:00 -
[185]
When I was but a small boy, I never did like eating my vegetables. My mother would always say something along the lines of ôthink of all the starving Minmatar slaves. They would kill to get a meal as good as thisö. Under my breathe I would always mutter ôyes but if I eat them, they will still be starving.ö
In a similar vein, no matter how many ushraÆkhan you kill in the name of revenge the damage is already done. All you are doing is creating a new generation of pilots seeking vengeance for the countless innocent lives lost in this fruitless conflict.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:11:00 -
[186]
Ok lets try again.
How is the war going ?
With love from Al Haquis
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:20:00 -
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Haquis you old dog, The calling is never far from your heart.
The war goes along, these Omerta are a small distraction from our main enemy. They provide good training for our back line troops. I would call them a useful nusiance if it wasn't for the lives being lost in their little crusade.
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Nooey
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Al Haquis
Ok lets try again.
No need to, I already answered.
Quote:
We set out to be an expensive problem, and that is what we've done and will continue to do.
Murino can downplay it all he likes, the numbers are well on our side and we're far from done.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:48:00 -
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I am not downplaying anything, your people are skilled at fighting. If you want to attack, I will defend. But you are a distraction, like pirates are too us. You will never be anything more, unless you cross that border into slavery.
As for expensive, well that has never bothered us. The slavers have incurred more damage than it will ever be possible for you to achieve, and we have taken that and drove onwards.
You do however, teach our rear line troops to cease being lazy. And I might be inclined to thank you for that was it not for the loss of life that is accociated with it.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2006.02.27 17:11:00 -
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Finally , Khaldorn your a gem , an unpolished gem but a gem non the less.
So in other words there are one , two ravens sitting at a gate hoping for a easy gank while Nooley (whatever) fights the war on the forums.
So it's really just bleaklands part 2.
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Nooey
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Posted - 2006.02.27 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Nooey on 27/02/2006 17:14:23
Nooey read Khaldorn's transmission one last time slowly, the frown still stuck on his face.
Well...He thought to himself, Not sure what to say to that one.
Zaitsev appeared in the doorway once again. "Just had the wind knocked out of your sails?"
Nooey spun around with the look of dejection still on his face, his silence answering the Caldari's question.
"I have only one thing to say," the shadow in the doorway muttered, sounding almost disappointed.
"And that would be?" Nooey sighed back.
"Palermo"
Nooey nodded slowly, eyes meeting in the dark.
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Ysabelle nKataros
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
I am not downplaying anything, your people are skilled at fighting. If you want to attack, I will defend. But you are a distraction, like pirates are too us. You will never be anything more, unless you cross that border into slavery.
And despite your disinterest you STILL felt it necessary to raze our headquarters and kill 98% of Omerta's employees? This statement is in distinct conflict with past events.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ysabelle nKataros
And despite your disinterest you STILL felt it necessary to raze our headquarters and kill 98% of Omerta's employees? This statement is in distinct conflict with past events.
I did? I was not even flying back then my dear.
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Ysabelle nKataros
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Posted - 2006.02.27 19:03:00 -
[194]
As a member of Ushra'Khan and given your alliance's tacit approval of the terrorism and sheltering of the criminals, you are guilty by association.
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.02.27 19:32:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Sunedyal Na''Shalorian on 27/02/2006 19:34:30
Alright, I may have missed some details amidst all the Nooey-Shamar spam ine this transmission but basically this is what i've gathered: Someone shot someone else, that someone else wants to know why, entity A says "Give us time to prepare an intelligence report", Entity B says, "up yours we want it now" and entity A responds, "in due time".
That's basically all this 7 pages of meaningless drivel condensed into one steaming pice of refuse right?
Well, here's the actual date the original post was made: "2006.02.16 10:03:00"
now for the sake of my sanity i'm going to put my time and date: "2006.02.27 13:23"
Now, as someone who is actually experienced and involved with intelligence, I can tell you that only two types of reports require eleven days to assemble:
1. Reports being assembled to distract or outright confuse the issue that contain very little true information but enough half truths to obscure the issue
2. Reports where the actual intelligence being assembled is so lengthy, and detailed that it actually has to be broken and translated down into a more readily accessable format.
Number 2 is much more rare than number 1.
So, as someone who really doesn't care and is more annoyed than anything about having just read seven pages of spam between three or four seperate people, I would be interested in this report, if for no other reason than to justify to myself why I just wasted a nice chunk of my life listening to this Galnet stream.
Not being intentionally offensive but, good lord guys, get a hobby. 
((edited because my eyes were tired after reading all of that thread at once an i kept misspelling words like "that" and "people". sad huh?))
"I am the ghost who is never remembered, I have no name. I come in a whirlwind of flashing lights and blaring sirens. Pray you never have to call on me, for I come to do battle with death." |
Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.02.27 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ysabelle nKataros
As a member of Ushra'Khan and given your alliance's tacit approval of the terrorism and sheltering of the criminals, you are guilty by association.
Ah yes, of course, that makes perfect sense now.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:18:00 -
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"Ah yes, of course, that makes perfect sense now."
"the attack on the Palermo Center was more than justified. If our pilots were involved then we will stand by them. In fact, I will be recommending an honour guard next time they dock at U'K headquarters."
Words of your superior in this very thread. So would say yes, it does make perfect sense... unless of course you happen to disagree with your elders, but if anything, all appears to indicate the contrary.
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2006.02.28 06:48:00 -
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Why would a pilot of a desertist harbouring organisation
operating in a complete different area put his dirty fingers
into this business which is not his to comment?
omerta declared.
this is all what counts.
Of course they prepared some kind of justification
for the public. you would have done the same.
Kill them my brothers.
Kill them fast, so we can focus again on 'the only war that has to be'
regards, v.Adm. ZoolKhan;
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
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omerta declared.
this is all what counts.
Of course they prepared some kind of justification
for the public. you would have done the same.
Isn't this fun? The pot is calling the kettle black. Or have you forgotten your War with CAIN already?
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2006.02.28 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gorion Wassenar
Isn't this fun? The pot is calling the kettle black. Or have you forgotten your War with CAIN already?
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Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 07:30:00 -
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Guess so.
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:12:00 -
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*sighs* Guys, I know you're at war and all, and that Amarr and Minmatar have serious issues (salvery, terrorism, etc) but let's be constructive here. Many other people have been accessing this stream, whether out of curiousity over the on-goings or because they have an investment in he proceedings.
Now, I can happily say i'm actually neutral in this because:
1. I agree with both sides on some points
2. It doesn't matter to me what the out come is
3. I don't know any of you 
So, that being pointed out again, either put up or shut up. Basically. That's coarse and rude, but it seemed the most apt terminology. My apologies for any offense taken by anyone.
Either post the report and be done with it, or straight up tell everyone "No, we don't owe you bunch of fools anything and we do what we want when we want because we are an autonomous entity."
Or, from the other side, "It doesn't really matter what your intelligence report says. We're at war now and we're going to fight you to the last regardless of your hollow justifications."
Seems to me that even getting the report at this point would do no good besides letting the general population know why this happened. But after 12 days of hostilities, it seems kind of a moot point.
Just tossing in my .2ISK again. :)
Thanks for listening and I wish both sides of this the best of luck.
"I am the ghost who is never remembered, I have no name. I come in a whirlwind of flashing lights and blaring sirens. Pray you never have to call on me, for I come to do battle with death." |
Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Why would a pilot of a desertist harbouring organisation
operating in a complete different area put his dirty fingers
into this business which is not his to comment?
*blinks* was this referencing me? I certainly hope not, considering people only resort to attacking another person when they lack the argument to back their case. And, if you must know, i already said in my earlier transmission why i was commenting on the proceedings. I would like to see some resolution to this on going debate. Entertaining as it has been, the end has to come at some point.
Oh yes, and all business is open to comment. The only people that deny the right of free speech are those that enslave other human beings. I would truly hate to see a minmatar resort to that hypocrasy (sp?).
"I am the ghost who is never remembered, I have no name. I come in a whirlwind of flashing lights and blaring sirens. Pray you never have to call on me, for I come to do battle with death." |
zoolkhan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
Originally by: zoolkhan
Why would a pilot of a desertist harbouring organisation
operating in a complete different area put his dirty fingers
into this business which is not his to comment?
No it was ot referring to you. i dotn know you, and i dont know
your organisation. The people i ment will have no doubts.
regards, v.Adm. ZoolKhan;
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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