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Alt Two
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
89
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:28:00 -
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Sozo SteelMist wrote:Alt Two wrote:Sozo SteelMist wrote:He didn't even know what eve was. Yet still he's sure the virus is from EVE. You can't get a virus from the IGB because it can't download and run any code. Your "friend" is just trying to sound smart. I'm assuming eve ingame browser is different from my default browser. And I assume that i got the virus from eve because i did click on any link in game i saw. So i can't get a virus from ingame browser is that what ur saying or because i can't get to ingame browser if i'm not ingame namely eve. Which of the following seems more likely to you?
1) Out of 500000 eve players you are the only one who managed to get a virus from the IGB. 2) You got it from somewhere else.
SurrenderMonkey wrote:But seriously, the IGB has a crippled version of javascript and no support for common attack vectors like flash and java. It's probably not strictly immune to attack, but it's pretty unlikely that any old generic malware (which will generally be reliant on one or more of those vectors) would work against the IGB, and there are softer targets that would affect more people, so I doubt anyone is really digging for IGB 0-day. And especially since the first time was apparently not recent. If there's been a security issue with the IGB for that long it would be public knowledge by now.
Most likely scenario is that he got a virus from somewhere virus infected eve expert determines eve is the source |
Sozo SteelMist
Exodus Continuum
0
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:38:00 -
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Alt Two wrote:Sozo SteelMist wrote:Alt Two wrote:Sozo SteelMist wrote:He didn't even know what eve was. Yet still he's sure the virus is from EVE. You can't get a virus from the IGB because it can't download and run any code. Your "friend" is just trying to sound smart. I'm assuming eve ingame browser is different from my default browser. And I assume that i got the virus from eve because i did click on any link in game i saw. So i can't get a virus from ingame browser is that what ur saying or because i can't get to ingame browser if i'm not ingame namely eve. Which of the following seems more likely to you? 1) Out of 500000 eve players you are the only one who managed to get a virus from the IGB. 2) You got it from somewhere else. SurrenderMonkey wrote:But seriously, the IGB has a crippled version of javascript and no support for common attack vectors like flash and java. It's probably not strictly immune to attack, but it's pretty unlikely that any old generic malware (which will generally be reliant on one or more of those vectors) would work against the IGB, and there are softer targets that would affect more people, so I doubt anyone is really digging for IGB 0-day. And especially since the first time was apparently not recent. If there's been a security issue with the IGB for that long it would be public knowledge by now. Most likely scenario is that he got a virus from somewhere virus infected eve expert determines eve is the source I am swayed by your argument I then assume your a gentleman and a scholar *Sozo bows |
Gobtcha
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:50:00 -
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From what I read I have a question
Does your buddy charge you? If so do some research on the symptoms of said virus on your own and draw a conclusion from there.
I recommend a quick scan in safe mode press f8 at boot up using this tool http://www.malwarebytes.org/ serves me well and I visit them bad sites daily and on the os browser.
I will not reply to any questions you have my two cents. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
86
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:56:00 -
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The in-game browser isn't completely safe- try to use external programs as often as possible. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
652
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:05:00 -
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Your computer guy is remote accessing your pc and putting the virus there or just doing when he is 'fixing' your computer.
As he is a computer repair dude - you need to inform him that you know what he is doing in a method computery things understand.
We 'punch' data into computers.
I recommend punching the data into his head a few times with your fists.
I have a feeling that he will be able to remove the virus after you do this.
So yeah - your mate is a crook and likely trying to keylog you for c/card details etc. The lag/lockups are when he is accessing your PC as it takes all your upload bandwidth. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
Sozo SteelMist
Exodus Continuum
0
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:05:00 -
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ty all who tried genuinely help even if some were kind of douchey but it was help none the less. I do believe my questions satisfied especially from freshfood or watever the short red haired chicks name is which i dont care to back and retype this just to find out :0 |
Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:16:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Just to be safe, you should probably uninstall EVE.
Not before sending me all his ISK just to be safe the virus wont destroy his PC. |
Barkaial Starfinder
Eixo do Mal
74
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:41:00 -
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Use the hijackthis program and paste the log here. |
Prince Sanguine
67
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:43:00 -
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Can I have your stuff Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me. |
Bruce Kemp
The Tuskers
63
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:06:00 -
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Sounds to me like your PC is overhearing,
does it freeze after 30mins at just desktop (no other programs running)?
or after 30mins of EVE running?
I would format HDD and fresh install of OS, make sure good airflow through your case, and make sure inside the case is clean.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
695
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:29:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Maybe you shouldn't be surfing Redtube on the in-game browser.....
YOU LEAVE MY GIRLFRIENDS OUT OF THIS!!! That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Mordor Imperium II
124
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:37:00 -
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Get a 2nd opinion. It could be something simple like bad ram. |
Janeway84
Masters Of Destiny Pride Before Fall
40
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:09:00 -
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try this one Super anti spyware first time I heard about it was 3 years ago and i thought it was a scam since the name sounds well not so pro
But it actually is decent enough
If you meet the prerequisites you could go try microsofts own security essentials i run it at my machine at home and its very competent. When i get my payraise i may even donate some to microsoft for a product that works. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
684
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:37:00 -
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Malwarebytes is another good Malware program. It's free. Anyway, did you visit RMT sites, you know, where you can buy isk and so on with real life money? I can see how you would get a virus that infects EVE if you visited those types of sites. Some of the ISK and things sold on those types of sites are through stolen accounts, which can be done by implanting viruses and malware into one's computer. Hope you get the issues solved. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1553
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:39:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Maybe you shouldn't be surfing Redtube on the in-game browser.....
Redtube? This is not a signature. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1103
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Posted - 2013.11.15 12:25:00 -
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Sozo SteelMist wrote:well he's already done that once he rebooted my os then i download eve again for about a month then i get the same thing but now its even stronger the virus i mean. thats what he says your "expert" most likely is a snake-oil salesman and you are getting trolled hard in this thread.
"this virus is even stronger this time" makes absolutely no ******* sense. It's the sort of statement one might use to impress people who have no idea what you are talking about ("a flu infection can be bad or not so bad... also the flu virus can mutate to become really strong. surely computers work the same way because a virus is a virus after all").
(that being said the IGB does suffer from some known vulnerabilities as it is hasn't been patched in years; yet I still consider it rather unlikely that you got infected that way:
The IGB is equivalent to Chrome 3, "real" Chrome auto-updates without the user even noticing and the current version is Chrome 31. The number of users running 4-year-old Chrome 3 (having explicitly turned off auto-updates to do so) has to be very low, certainly too low to justify the development of malware targeting it. You would have to have stumbled across a piece of malware that is several years old.
However, AV software is known to flag the IGB as a security risk, so maybe that's where the "it's because of EVE" statement comes from). |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1347
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Posted - 2013.11.15 12:27:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:The computer guy is giving you a slow release virus so that you have to call him back to fix it.
Job security dawg.
Priceless. And probably true.
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
Jove Death
Jovian Vengeance
182
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Posted - 2013.11.15 12:36:00 -
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I run spybot search and destroy.
Even if I dont have a virus I run it once a month. Some virus software may pick up files it doesnt understand in the eve context folder and may says its spam.
However I have been slightly worried my pc camera seems to go on everytime I use the shower. Im guessing thats just Falcon Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 12:54:00 -
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Sozo SteelMist wrote:wow troll central. Abidel its only happened twice and not in quick succession. So how is that insanity? And jim i doubt it. he's a freind he didn't even touch my computer the first time i got the virus. He didn't even know what eve was.
To be clear, if that guy really told you what you told us, then you should demand your money back and never call him again, or maybe sue him for fraud.
Go to a librabry and read the windows manual and soon your You'll know 10 times more about computers than that guy.
EDIT: That last part was not an insult btw. I just wrote that to clarify the incredible amount of incompetence and/or lies that "computer guy" piled on you. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Rashmika Clavain
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
91
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Posted - 2013.11.15 12:59:00 -
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Sozo SteelMist wrote:well he's already done that once he rebooted my os then i download eve again for about a month then i get the same thing but now its even stronger the virus i mean. thats what he says
Confirming the same computer virus comes back stronger than ever after a month. |
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:07:00 -
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Rashmika Clavain wrote:Sozo SteelMist wrote:well he's already done that once he rebooted my os then i download eve again for about a month then i get the same thing but now its even stronger the virus i mean. thats what he says Confirming the same computer virus comes back stronger than ever after a month.
Yup, they do that. feed on the dark side of the internet, mutate, get stronger. Rip heads of etc. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
577
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:08:00 -
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So, whats the name of this evolving virus then? |
Lisara Khatam
Gallente Trade Union
12
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:35:00 -
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Jeez, the troll is hard with this one.
Stop going to your friend. He's charging you out the yin-yang for repairs to what might be a simple problem.
How old is the computer? Maybe the HD is going bad (mine is on 7 years and fixing to die). Have you run Malware-Bytes in safemode? Do you have a decent Anti-Virus (not AVG or MSE)? Maybe it might be the RAM. Try Memtest. Are you using a browser out of game and do you have an ad-blocker on it?
Computer problems defined as "freezing for 30 minutes" and "has a virus" makes it more complex. There are so many things that the end-user can do to fix their computer before taking it in for repairs.
Without more information and details (like a hijackthis log), there is no way anyone can help you without blindly shooting in the dark. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:35:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:So, whats the name of this evolving virus then?
We should name it.
Something with Doom and/or Mutatoe.
Virus Doomius Mutatoius... Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
577
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:37:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Rhivre wrote:So, whats the name of this evolving virus then? We should name it. Something with Doom and/or Mutatoe. Virus Doomius Mutatoius...
Ceeceepeecius Rubicanus ssp. Mutatius. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1861
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:39:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Rashmika Clavain wrote:Sozo SteelMist wrote:well he's already done that once he rebooted my os then i download eve again for about a month then i get the same thing but now its even stronger the virus i mean. thats what he says Confirming the same computer virus comes back stronger than ever after a month. Yup, they do that. feed on the dark side of the internet, mutate, get stronger. Rip heads of etc. It will also make your TV turn on for no apparent reason, your Roomba start chasing you around the room, your microwave will project deadly radiation at you, and all the locks in your house will inevitably lock and jam. There is no turning back! |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1015
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:41:00 -
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Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4519
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:52:00 -
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Jove Death wrote:I run spybot search and destroy. Even if I dont have a virus I run it once a month. Some virus software may pick up files it doesnt understand in the eve context folder and may says its spam. However I have been slightly worried my pc camera seems to go on everytime I use the shower. Im guessing thats just Falcon No. It's me.
You're too hot. I can't resist. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
763
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:57:00 -
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He lied to you.
NO ONE can tell you from WHERE you got a virus unless that one is a software that was scannign your system when it hapened. Things that are not logged cannot be backrtacked.
That guy LIED to you, he probably has no clue and charged you for a service that was not made. He made you a fool.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Kallen Kozukie
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:24:00 -
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I do a bit of PC work for people, nothing major just trouble shooting. Sometimes you can make an educated guess where something came from just by looking at thier history. as far as the igb is concerned, you should use it like IE, if you dont have to don't.
Most people who have a pc have no idea what they are doing, and probably shouldn't have one . Stupidly easy to catch yourself a virus depending on browsing and software habits.
As far as what the guy said, well you ever talked to someone about something they didnt understand? you try to explain it to them. Thats what that sounds like to me. |
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