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Ichabod Crane
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Posted - 2006.02.17 14:25:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Clipped Wings
Originally by: Capt Rob
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actually, i posted here to tell it how it is in my view, as you chose to talk about past things and change the facts to try to discredit me that is up to you; but if you gona do that, pretty pointless to then go on saying im trolling.The threads about 3fa deception which i posted about and you decided to derail me, so plz understand what your doing in the future.
No, it was actually you who brought the past with you when you posted here. Your trite comments are to be expected considering your past affiliation with us and the fact that you and certain former enemies of ours cant seem to shake their bitter resentment of 3FA. We must be doing something right if our enemies hold such grudges, no really, its flattering. But as you and yours have been told already, bring it in game, or shut up.
Now regardless of your contrasting opinions on the events of our own past (in which you seem to consider yourself an expert regardless of being there or not) this thread is no place for such discussions.
So kindly keep any further comments you might have concise and to the point of the original topic.
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Attiladehun
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Posted - 2006.02.17 15:50:00 -
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backstab backstab, oooh nooo sounds like a harsh word 
*sigh* You shoot our allies, so we help them. Sounds right to me.
You are just another corp in syndicate who apparently shoots our allies.
And gdi another alliance trying to poke us out, i think we feel loved now don't we? 
Anyway see you in space, will be fun.
Can't hardly wait allready 
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Valeria Nester
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Posted - 2006.02.17 16:38:00 -
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ODN proved to be worthy adversaries that gained alot of respect when I fought against them.
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Doctor Draw
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Posted - 2006.02.17 17:00:00 -
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Goonfleet had some respectable scraps with Les chevaliers de l'ordre and then we made nice with you guys. Too bad this dumb move craps all that down the drain. -A- member corps are now -5 to Goonfleet and we will fire on you and assist 3FA if needed in defending their space.
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Defcon2
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Posted - 2006.02.17 18:01:00 -
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Hey Strickero give me a shout ingame maybe we can help each other out
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.02.17 18:04:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 17/02/2006 18:05:50
Originally by: KIATolon
The OSS and 3FA alliance share standings. If 3FA are shooting you guys, then so will we.
Can it be confirmed that 3FA and OSS are working together closely and being allies?
We only want to know for setting our standings accordingly as we have OSS set to -10.
-G- Pink Power
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2006.02.17 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 17/02/2006 18:05:50
Originally by: KIATolon
The OSS and 3FA alliance share standings. If 3FA are shooting you guys, then so will we.
Can it be confirmed that 3FA and OSS are working together closely and being allies?
Yes, OSS and 3FA are allied.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.02.17 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Antoinette Civari
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 17/02/2006 18:05:50
Originally by: KIATolon
The OSS and 3FA alliance share standings. If 3FA are shooting you guys, then so will we.
Can it be confirmed that 3FA and OSS are working together closely and being allies?
Yes, OSS and 3FA are allied.
Thank you for the information.
-G- Pink Power
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.02.17 19:57:00 -
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I'm having a mild case of dTja vu.
I'll be watching this with interest...from the sidelines.
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Frankinator
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Posted - 2006.02.17 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
I'm having a mild case of dTja vu.
I'll be watching this with interest...from the sidelines.
Daitan Beringe, so bitter! He does have a point tho...
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.02.17 22:23:00 -
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Not bitter, Frank. Well, perhaps a little...
But it's not me in the line of fire this time. I just can't help wondering if it will turn out the same.
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moby
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Posted - 2006.02.17 23:26:00 -
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I'll side with Strickero's version of the facts, never known him to deform the truth.
GO -A-
RIP SMOSKE - AYAL
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Vega Bond
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Posted - 2006.02.18 04:10:00 -
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Edited by: Vega Bond on 18/02/2006 04:10:46
Hm, so we're backstabbers for abiding by our pledge to defend our allies? That's a unique interpretation. I like it! Like the old man said, how good bad reasons and bad music sound when we go to war
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Jemmy Bloocher
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Posted - 2006.02.18 06:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jemmy Bloocher on 18/02/2006 06:58:55
I'm not sure why ODN is judging 3FA as oathbreakers for backing their allies. If ODN was being attacked and its longstanding allies held off from helping to contact the enemies in question and ask for permission to shoot I think ODN would be annoyed.
It's a pity to see fear and misunderstanding lead to yet another war.
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STRICKERO
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Posted - 2006.02.18 08:42:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Jemmy Bloocher
Edited by: Jemmy Bloocher on 18/02/2006 06:58:55
I'm not sure why ODN is judging 3FA as oathbreakers for backing their allies. If ODN was being attacked and its longstanding allies held off from helping to contact the enemies in question and ask for permission to shoot I think ODN would be annoyed.
It's a pity to see fear and misunderstanding lead to yet another war.
It isnt a pity to wage war when it is necessary.
We encountered OSS when we entered lower syndicate. They did nothing and we decided to contact em later for mutual + standing, as we were engaging clankillers. But, later on this day, we realized they were applying a strict NBSI policy when they started engaging us, killing a CT we were setting up before it can be onlined, so we set em - while we were negotiating on the other hand with 3FA for a nap. Nap was agreed and both party set each other to + standing.
Then, the next day, Oss bring the fight a second time and a third time the day after. This is were things arent a misunderstanding, but a pain. We were fighting OSS for 3 days, and while we were defending ourselves in the battle, the naped guys entered the system and without prior warning, started shooting us as we were thinking all was cool seeing "blue" guys in the overview...
I can understand 3FA backed up their "friendship" with Oss, i can understand that our nap was nothing in comparison to their long term friendship, but i cant accept the way they did it. Why not giving a prior warning ? It's a matter of second to convo or mail someone and tell em they are now - due to these circumstances.
But because 3FA leaders doesnt have any honor, they decided to use the lame way to get easy kill, and proved it again when we tried to talk to em.
There is no fear nor misunderstanding in this matter. As we agreed a cease fire in order to let the diplomat do their job, it is the least to make it public when we decide this cease fire is over. But as we are honourable people, we didnt engaged any 3FA pilot since the announcement and 20:00 gmt yesterday. Yes, it can look stupid. We dont want easy kill, we dont want our killboard to show good odds. This is a matter of honor.
Clear enough ?
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SurVie
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Posted - 2006.02.18 09:26:00 -
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well maybe people will now finally see 3rd front for what they are, i've said it times and times again. They will backstab allies when they see fit for their needs, a nap means nothing to these people.
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Defcon2
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Posted - 2006.02.18 11:48:00 -
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I think maybe you are being too hard on 3fa Surive 
They arn't the best pvpers from my personal experience and with people like ck etc running around they need allies to surive out here. Therefore the smart thing to do is nap the strongist current faction to help defend them.
Yes maybe they appear to simply nap the strongist faction currently in the area to save themselves hassle, and "backstab" former allies that may not be as strong as a new alliance in the area. But at the end of the day EvE isn't about morals and if you can't beat em, join em
The only thing I find a little strange is that 3fa are napped with OSS who kos neutrals outside their claimed space, somthing that I would imagine is at odds with 3fa as they take an anti-pirate stance afaik. But I guess isk > morals.
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Doggsbody
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Posted - 2006.02.18 14:40:00 -
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Got to chuckle. These French guys announce the formation of a new alliance. A new alliance that, it seems, has no space they can actually 'claim'. Then a day or so after forming and spamming the place with press releases, they claim to have been mortally offended by a local alliance, and war dec them announcing they're going to wipe 3fa off the map.
I guess subtlety isn't their strong point!
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Ichabod Crane
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Posted - 2006.02.18 16:22:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Ichabod Crane on 18/02/2006 16:24:18
Survie and Defcon, I hate to break it to you both for the Nth time, but you know nothing about 3rd Front. Fair enough for your opinions, but as far as we're concerned, they're based on the injustice you feel was done against you in JQA and hold little relevance to the situation here. JQA lost our support because of its own actions, not because of ours.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, but as much as you'd wish it, history will not be repeating itself.
Originally by: STRICKERO
I can understand 3FA backed up their "friendship" with Oss, i can understand that our nap was nothing in comparison to their long term friendship, but i cant accept the way they did it. Why not giving a prior warning ? It's a matter of second to convo or mail someone and tell em they are now - due to these circumstances.
But because 3FA leaders doesnt have any honor, they decided to use the lame way to get easy kill, and proved it again when we tried to talk to em.
If there is one thing I dislike on the corp/alliances forums, its people who use the "they shot at us/did something we didnt like, ergo they have no honour" card. Really, besides "X alliance are pirates cause they shot me" its the most tired and cliched phrase out there.
Now that you were apparently not informed of the standings change, will have been a minor oversight on the part of the diplomat assigned to deal with you; make no mistake however, if we wanted easy kills we'd simply adopt an NBSI policy.
This brings me back to your 'no honour' comment. You could have quite easily contacted our diplomats for an explaination on our apparent neglect to inform you of the above standings changes, but instead you chose to throw yourselves into a full scale conflict with us. An unwise decision on your part I think.
In the end this situation was brought about by your own diplomatic short fallings, it wouldve been wise for you to make inquiries regarding the affiliations between Lower Syndicate's factions before entering into diplomatic talks with one, and putting a control tower up in the other's space.
From what I understand the former Nemesis pilots are well respected as PVPers, but simply blundering around Syndicate on the strength of this will not ensure your success. You'll excuse my hubris when I say quite matter-of-factly, that I think you're punching too far above your weight and making too many enemies too fast, it would be a pity if you failed to see that before Galactic Aurora became another footnote in Syndicate's history.
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Zhealous
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Posted - 2006.02.18 19:10:00 -
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I guess I would throw this in here for good measure.
Avallon contacted me when we first encountered his corporation in lower Syndicate, at which time we had heard nothing of them, and -A- wasnt created yet officially. We talked, mentioned to contact OSS for standings if they intended to come to syndicate and kill pirates here, also stating they were our long standing allies. I recieved a corp member list, and since we do not use NBSI I waited with moving them up to +5 til it was confirmed that everything was sorted, all seems fine so far.
At the time of the 'indicident' the standings hadn't been changed to anything else, however the 3FA gang involved in killing -A- (or -A-to-be) responded to a call from Goonfleet that they were under attack. They warped/jumped in and killed a few, moments-work, not some planned easy-kill. MDP took preference over NAP, and 3FA stands wholly behind the action taken.
Regardless of this, myself and Avallon have been in several good talks, in which we tried to work things out, however we felt their demands were out-of-line, and simply offered them to live in peace together, since neither of us are pirates. This apparently was not acceptable, and now they choose to fight us along with OSS. I really don't see what all the fuss is about, any why this is made to sound so incredibly interesting. We will continue as we have before, and -A- is KOS as any other who chooses to aggress us. Looking forward to some interesting fights at least before "we are wiped out", although so far we have seen none. Let's see if we can fight this one out in a respectalbe fashion, or can we expect similar reports on this forum in the future?
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.02.18 20:23:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 17/02/2006 18:05:50
Originally by: KIATolon
The OSS and 3FA alliance share standings. If 3FA are shooting you guys, then so will we.
Can it be confirmed that 3FA and OSS are working together closely and being allies?
We only want to know for setting our standings accordingly as we have OSS set to -10.
Which means "log off with extreme prejudice"?
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Capt Rob
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Posted - 2006.02.19 05:48:00 -
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No, it was actually you who brought the past with you when you posted here. Your trite comments are to be expected considering your past affiliation with us and the fact that you and certain former enemies of ours cant seem to shake their bitter resentment of 3FA. We must be doing something right if our enemies hold such grudges, no really, its flattering. But as you and yours have been told already, bring it in game, or shut up.
Now regardless of your contrasting opinions on the events of our own past (in which you seem to consider yourself an expert regardless of being there or not) this thread is no place for such discussions.
So kindly keep any further comments you might have concise and to the point of the original topic.
aww, so clipped cant talk anymore; he sends his servants to talk now
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.02.19 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 17/02/2006 18:05:50
Originally by: KIATolon
The OSS and 3FA alliance share standings. If 3FA are shooting you guys, then so will we.
Can it be confirmed that 3FA and OSS are working together closely and being allies?
We only want to know for setting our standings accordingly as we have OSS set to -10.
Which means "log off with extreme prejudice"?
Tolon, care to elaborate where we did "logoff"?
Stop spouting lies here and bring it instead.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.02.20 01:02:00 -
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IMK
for one
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lazlow lang
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Posted - 2006.02.20 01:54:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Clipped Wings
Unlike so many others, we stand by our allies.
and so true, Im sure JQA would vouch for the loyalty that 3FA swears by.
ironic
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.02.20 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: Deja Thoris on 20/02/2006 02:13:40
Originally by: KIATolon
We only want to know for setting our standings accordingly as we have OSS set to -10.
Which means "log off with extreme prejudice"?
KIATolon book of fleet command.
Lesson 1
Tell fleet to engage and then jump into the next system
Lesson 2
Get fleet in short range ships and get the enemy to jump in. Let your fleet suck it up while you sit 150km away sniping (and die all the same ).
Don't throw rocks in glass houses
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.02.20 02:42:00 -
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Yup I suck. Which makes the fact the 5 have a 2 to 1 kill ratio against contraband INC even more amusing :)
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lazlow lang
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Posted - 2006.02.20 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Yup I suck. Which makes the fact the 5 have a 2 to 1 kill ratio against contraband INC even more amusing :)
point was, you suck, not the 5
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.02.20 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
IMK
for one
rofl
seriously - stop lieing
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Defcon2
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Posted - 2006.02.20 09:01:00 -
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Thats the way Ichabod, ignore the post and instead attack the person writing it, you know that's how threads turn nasty. As for JQA that was a long long time ago not sure why you had to bring it up again tbh seems a little irrelavent to the current situation in syndicate.
Back on topic gl -A-, syndicate is a pretty tough place to fight in I'm sure we will all fimd out pretty soon if 3fa are "going to pay" for not ;)
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