IThey sunk HUGE amounts of resources into it only to discover the players didn't want it

...and, there was little beef and much sizzle because they were doing a lot of invisible backend work.

Look at apocrypha thats what you get when they go big on space game play expansion. I am pretty sure this is thr big thin seagull means with her vision.

If that was true, then people would not have been screaming to direct resources to Spaceships, they would have demanded more resources to Avatars/CQ/Stations. Unless I remember wrong, there really weren't that many people screaming for less resources to be directed at Ships.

Do you have any sources for that? Not trying to put you on the spot, I would be really interested to read about that.

You might not have noticed, but CCP has already started delivering Seagull's plan.

These deployable structures are big.

They announced WIS in 2006, announced Incarna in 2009, started delivering it in 2011.
All of which while overlooking FIS.

Translation: EVE will die if it doesn't give us what we want.

Dunno what game you log into but I can still spin my ship just fine in the hangar and even have a nice counter to stare at and watch it add +1 every time I go 'round after spinning 10+ times.

Eh...us?
Does that include me?

So, "No one" wants rubicon, or EVE?

Pro-tip about language: it is not an universal mean of communication, and very often it does not convey the writer's intentions.

Its interpretation is subjective, which means that it will often be interpreted in unpredictable ways.

Personal perception: "things you think they might have meant".

Your tip is paradoxical.

No, in other words "It is your duty to express yourself in the clearest manner, not my duty to find the exact meaning you want to convey".
Which is a fact.

Aaaah, the good old ad personam.
And with this, I can finally abandon this thread.

ad hominem Latin [+ªd -êh+Æm+¬-în+¢m]
adj & adv
1. directed against a person rather than against his arguments
[literally: to the man]

"Ad personam" and "Ad hominem" are synonymous expressions.

Ok, I get it

So, do tell us, if it was up to you, your decision entirely, to be minutely executed by CCP: what would you want Rubicon to do for you? You are restricted by nothing at all. Go wild!

1. The downward trend started with Incursion, unsurprisingly since it was the industry-standard fare of PvE raiding content that gets everyone's interest in the beginning, but which fails to keep anyone around after it has been tried, tested, dissected, and perfected.

2. That's kind of the point. The question of half a decade of hype is the only point where there is even a remote resemblance to Incarna, and since hype alone was a fairly small point of the summer of rage, it's pretty presumptive to say it'll end the same. Again, PI had about the same kind of 5-year-plan hype as we have right now and look how little it mattered (both in-game and out-of-game) when it was finally delivered.

4. Those people are clueless and are out of synch with the process that led up to the summer of rage anyway, so what they think right now is completely irrelevant regardless. It's like blaming the summer of rage on Revelations and happily skipping over Apocrypha and Trinity.

6, 7. Looks like, no. Because the product isn't there yet to give any feedback on. We're roughly 9 expansions away from being able to say anything of the kind. We have no idea what the direction is or what's being promised so saying that they've not delivered is ridiculously incorrect. Again, the timeframe we're looking at here is predicting Incarna (summer 2011) from the planning of Revelations (summer 2006), and instead skipping straight to Tyrannis (summer 2010) and the worrisome evolution from thereGǪ

8. Incarna contradicted game lore something fierce. The latest trailer does not. Incarna would have us believe that capsuleers like being outside their pods and that it's a clean and simple process GÇö pretty much the exact opposite of how it has been described. It also presents capsuleers as being able to afford just above coffin-motel standard rather than having the wealth of planets. The only thing that could be considered GÇ£offGÇ¥ about the Rubicon trailer is the capsuleer UI, which might not be what people imagined (and which is probably pretty unique to each infomorph anywayGǪ wealth of planets and all that).

the guy that argued global warming is fact, you're the dumbest one here.

http://www.john-daly.com/hockey/hockey.htm

And stuff....

Maybe you should actually look at the charts rather than just link to them. Do you see the peak in 2011-01-06? Do you see the direction it takes from there? The one that wasn't reversed until 2011-11? It started with Incursion, not Incarna, and it ended with Crucible.

Stuff

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Do we have a downward trend in population?

Do we have a downward trend in population?

Stuff.